Another channel covered this. They pulled him over because he was complaining about the Deland PD and filed a complaint against him so this was in retaliation.
@@raulreyes6573 I think “this is a public service” channel is linked in the description - there is another video with him and James Madison audits going to the police station conducting “free well being checks” after this stop 😂- he was also live with Honor your oath in Daytona beach shores earlier this week after DBSPD arrested Jeff gray (honor your oath) then unarrested 😂 him for solicitation -
This is a public service and James Madison audits went to the police station after this stop to conduct “free well being checks” - they flipped it on them..😂 I am still not sure the cops even understood…🙄 but the message was very clear!
Guy wasnt the smartest crayon in the shed or whatever. 😂 and probably a thugie who just wanted to smoke someone and vent their anger on some kids. Good job to the police
@@davidpearman4792 He had just filed a complaint at the department with that same officer that came up second... They followed him and did this just to F with him... He was pissed is why he acted that way.
How can our completely idiotic courts decide in cases such as Warren v. District of Columbia that the police have no obligation to protect the public, and then 5 minutes later decide when the police are bored and randomly want to "protect" the public that it's completely acceptable to violate your 4th amendment rights? We need to end lifetime appointments.
I’m sorry but if a person is willing to make a death threat, to a child, in front of cops it’s fair to say that person is not thinking or acting rationally. If they then make physical contact with a cop it’s fair to think they would act on a physical threat. At that point they have made a death threat in front of a cop and started making physical contact, two things a majority of Americans will never do.
Yeah, those cops did not deserve an F in this case, but I guess you have to be cautious with how you grade a situation like that, as some people like to play victims a lot.
@Flummelum yeah they did what they were supposed to do. They didn't even go at the kid hard. This time, the civilians were trying to minimize their friends actions as tho he wasn't overly aggressive
@Flummelum this channel is full of biased takes. Letter grades given based on "might" "maybe" and other meaningless statements. He's not wrong per se, but he is intentionally misleading with his interpretation of law to appeal to a specific audience.
@ I know. I was being sarcastic because it is ridiculous when the officers said that he wasn’t detained. You’re right - They were more than obviously lying.
@@CeeDEE-l8b Not too bright I guess. If LE has you stopped on the side of the road and you are not free to leave, what do you call it. I know critical thinking is hard, but give it a shot. You are dead wrong here.
Idk walking up on a suspect saying you're gonna "smoke" them doesn't seem to smart along with pushing the cop. Is it worth getting injured over? No. But his actions unfortunately led up to that.
@@dmacrolens I mean he was standing upright and was slammed face first into concrete from an upright position. His body wasn't 5-6 feet in the air but his face definitely was.
And its getting worse. Many officers, almost all, take an oath to "protect and defend the rights of the people". I have yet to see that happen by more than one in any department.
In Mr. The Good's defense, the traffic stop was over, and had been for several minutes, when he got out. He had been told several times that he was not detained.
Also agree. I can get the logic "Well the cops could react badly" but isn't that exactly what this channel is about? This is almost victim blaming. "Well you got out of the car, so they reacted. You did this to yourself".
@@Orrinn123 How is it defense of the police when they are talking about the action of Mr. The Good and his grade being reduced even though he was "free to go"?
@ Oh I misunderstood. I thought he was explaining that he was not detained and therefore free to go. Which is what the police were saying when he kept talking about being detained. I didn’t know this was about the grade
I would just like to say that I appreciate that your new videos shown are timely with relationship to when they actually happened and when you discuss them here.
31:36 sorry ATA, any reasonable person would also assume that after making s threat to kill a kid that this individual may very well have been armed and a danger. You have to understand that making s death threat infront of cops is not a thing a mentally secure person does unless they think they are able to carry out that threat.
Its not that the fact that the other guy was breaking in to anything. But the one guy came out after police arrived, started talking shit thinking they were his body gaurds or a bro or some shit. Dude shouldnt have even approached the scene.
Ohhh, ok. So you're fine with your rights being taken away from you under false pretenses. All I heard was wellbeing check for driving. You sound like you might be on some kind of drug induced high. Why don't you forfeit all of your r
@@bill2066if he was driving in an unsafe or illegal manner, the police would have said they pulled him over for driving in an illegal or unsafe manner. Instead they pulled him over because they wanted to pull him over. They're not allowed to do that.
While I agree that making this statement is not wise, I am aware that some jurisdictions make parents criminally liable for the actions of minors in certain circumstances. However I see no point in stating that to the minor other than a failed intimidation tactic.
Maybe he's on a bail or something that requires her to keep him on curfew? The cop seems to know the kid well and would probably know his bail conditions by heart.
@jenolson577 I saw 1 traffic stop in the video. As a First Responder, all he had to say was im fine. End of stop and end of story. Ass Wiper. Go lick your fingers.
Wait until you see how much immunity trump gives his crooked blue army, you haven't seen anything yet. The amount of money that cops will steal from the public is about to skyrocket.
That's so thoughtful of the Deland PD to ensure the wellbeing of the driver. Really makes me want to move there. I can only imagine how many times they have pulled this stunt to only fish for something further to arrest him.
Bad for real estate. Investors watch these videos and buy accordingly. Municipalities should rethink their commitment to these "public servants." Mayors, do you understand?
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before. Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking. Other things may include mixing medications. It's better to be safe than sorry, no? Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this: "Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
The combination lights, sirens, and the continued interaction with the officers are sufficient for a reasonable individual to consider themselves seized for the purposes of a traffic stop.
I wonder if the cop knows that there’s an entire gig economy out there of DoorDash and food delivery drivers who stopped frequently. I wonder if he pulls all of them over😂
I also pull over to look at the GPS sometimes. It's not safe to examine it with the level of concentration I require when the car is in motion, and the voice directions don't always cut it. If you're clearly in control of the vehicle the whole time you pull over, then there's no reason to believe there's a problem!
it was retaliatory, the one cop had been following him for sometime, everytime he got behind him, he pulled off the road and stopped to let the officer go by.
@@FrogsForBreakfast illegal to pull over and get your bearings but also illegal to mess with the phone and drive so it’s a damned if you do or don’t lol
As to the grade on the first one... It doesnt matter how the cop interpreted it, he was told he was free to go. With that he had every right to get out and express a grievance with his governent.
Yeah they definitely wouldn't have used him driving away from a traffic stop as an excuse to throw his ass in jail. All it takes is for them in their mind to decide you are detained and he can do as he pleases.
I think the grade was because of the safety factor. Even ATA is recognizing that cops can be dangerous even in lawful situations. Not good to be "right" and put yourself into a situation where you can be killed.
Even if he wasn't free to go before the Supervisor spoke to him, as soon as he walked away from the car the traffic stop was finished and he could get out of the car. As soon as the reason for the stop is resolved, the stop is over. The police don't get to hold you longer than that for no reason or a bogus reason like officer safety.
You’re interpreting it backwards. The man was free to go the entire time, he prolonged the stop by asking and waiting for a supervisor while working himself up into a fury. The first time that officer said he wasn’t detained and that he was free to go, that’s when you shut up and leave
@ the grade is in relation to your behavior in the stop, bet this time he assigned it based on behavior after the stop that was entirely within the man’s rights…
So you can’t pull over. You can’t sit in your car in a parking lot. You can’t drive while black or brown. You can’t drive an expensive car. You can’t drive slower or faster than the speed limit and you must drive in a perfectly straight line without nearing any road lines. Got it! 👍🏻
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before. Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking. Other things may include mixing medications. It's better to be safe than sorry, no? Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this: "Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
@@janemiettinen5176 Police don't get promoted if they don't pull people over and poor people can't afford lawyers. The incentive to target them is unavoidable. As my income level grew, arbitrary stops for speeding when I wasn't actually speeding eventually disappeared.
Mr. TheGood deserves an A. The traffic stop was over. The police officers had all walked away and gotten in their cars. He was legally allowed to get out of his car .
Yeah he is basically saying he deducted points because even though he did nothing wrong some cops can and do use it as an excuse to escalate to another level
remember, when the cops dont detain you, you are not free to leave. so long as a cop car is behind you, you must stay in your vehicle and not go about your business... fucking wild that this channel thinks its a negative that someone who was allegedly never detained, is not free to go about their business...
There are other videos out there showing people who need police assistance being arrested and thrown on the ground for trying to walk up to a police car. Many tyrants considered walking up to their vehicle to be aggressive, and they react very poorly. The fact the stop had ended doesn't reduce the danger of exiting the car and walking up to them. It is completely legal to walk up to them, and many (possibly even most) police are fine with it. But some aren't and it is dangerous.
15:32 according to both cops this wasn’t a traffic stop and he wasn’t being detained and he was free to go. He had every goddamn Right as an American citizen to get out of his car anytime he wanted to. To suggest the citizen did something wrong that may get him killed by an unhinged cop is absurd.
What I think is absurd is that you're willing to risk the life of every civilian over the life of a gang member who is known for taking advantage of their power... I don't know it seems pretty absurd when they had no problem cause
@@-Monad-I don’t think he’s saying it’s absurd a trigger happy cop would 100% shoot him. It’s absurd that it is “normal” for cops to shoot unarmed citizens. The traffic stop was over and the incredibly immature cops walked away kid conversation. Not one but two, one being a supervisor. They made an illegal stop and then wouldn’t listen to the citizen cuz they couldn’t handle being questioned.
@@-Monad- I agree that the citizen stepping out could get him shot. Heck a nervous twitch, or rebuking in the name of Jesus is enough for some officers... I don't think that's what Emceepe meant. "To suggest the citizen did something wrong..." is what's absurd, not that the officer may hurt the citizen... The comment Emceepe made is (edited), so it may have stated that at first? I don't know. While it may be foolish in a lot of cases to confront an officer like this, it's not wrong to think you have a right to do so.
The second case.....had the guy not want to be big and bad coming up and threatening this kid he wouldn't have ended up knocked out. When the cop says step back, step back. COMPLY! Why call the cops IF you wanna take the law in your own hands. The cops tried to push him back, but Parks jerked away, AND he also threatened to "smoke" the kid. Victim or not, you can't do that. By our own laws, everyone is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. It's not the other way around.
i agree with what you said you shouldn't do those things but does that justify being dumped on your head from chest high??? i mean that is deadly force. do you think "death or great bodily harm" was needed for an empty threat. there was 4 or more cops around.
It doesn't matter what they say. Cops can and will lie to you. That being said when you are pulled over by a cop you are defacto being detained. The second they turn on those lights legal or not they are actively detaining you by forcing you to stop and talk to them. Generally mutual conversations aren't started by being pulled over by police.
The supreme court says officer are not responible for our well being..this officer is 100% wrong, his sargent is 100% wrong. They both need serious repercussions for their outrageous behavior
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before. Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking. Other things may include mixing medications. It's better to be safe than sorry, no? Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this: "Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
@@Katstackz7414 yes he was wrong, “use your words”he’s not five years old with no self control ,he’s a grown man . But I do agree that officers can handle it better, they’re supposed to be the trained professionals
You're missing the entire point. Emotional self-control does not come automatically with age. It's something that needs to be taught while growing up. Many people never properly learn this. We see one of them in this video.
I’d like to know more about the 2nd story. What became of the juvenile? What’s the legality of threats to arrest his mother? Also, why did the cops jump to arresting the mother and not mention the father? Are moms more accountable for their children’s behavior than dads?
Cutting through neighbors yards after dark with Something us kids did all the time in the 80s. It was like an intricate game of hide and seek, kick the can or cops and robbers. However, in the 80s everyone on the block knew each other and the kids came out of at least four of the houses on my street and there was almost zero crime in that neighborhood. We had it sooo good in the 80’s.
No, the guy was knowingly and deliberately escalating. If he simply said "I'm fine, can I leave or am I detained?" it ends the interaction (or the police then actually DO go out of their legal grounds) but he chooses not to do that and demands to get his licks in with the supervisor instead. The fact he never asks if he can leave tells you everything about what the guy wants from the interaction.
ATA, I'm not sure I agree with the F grade for officers in the second encounter. The idea that this was excessive force hinges on the idea that the subject was purposely slammed head first into the ground which I am not convinced was the intent of the officer. I agree that the officer could have been more patient before engaging in a forceful takedown but based on the sequence of events, the officers had warrant to arrest him and the consequences are on the subject, not the officers. It's important to note that the original youth said that he had been chased, this subject threatened to 'smoke' the youth, physically approached in a threatening manner, and assaulted the officer giving then more than enough cause for their response. Had their been any indication that the officers intent was to slam the subjects head into the sidewalk, I would agree with the assessment but I see no evidence of that. Every citizen must recognize that they cannot approach another person with a threatening manner and must yield to the authority of police. Being angry is not an excuse. Had the subject landed on the grass or not head first in an uncontrolled takedown, I'm sure this would have turned out very differently. I'd say C- because there was no indication of imminent danger. More patience would have been reasonable.
that was my take as well….the kid was a smug little jerk off with a clear history of engaging in bad or even criminal behavior….. As a former police officer though it is difficult to determine if in the second video it was excessive or just an outcome of the totality of the resistance…..
I counted 5 maybe 6? officers on the scene. This is more than enough personnel to prevent any of the combative citizens from getting within arm's reach of each other - which they should be doing. Clearly one of the angry citizens in the group is who called the police. Clearly the kid from the bush and his friends are annoying punks that cause trouble. The officers should recognize that potential volatility of the situation and take immediate steps to deescalate it. Instead, they let it get out of hand and then overreact.
Not purposely slammed? lol. The police chief said "His upper body was controlled by the officer. Parks was lifted off the ground..." and then "taken to a platform" (ie: the ground). If his upper body was "controlled", then how'd he hit his head?? Only explanation is it was done on purpose.
@dinosaur1900 controlling the upper body doesn't mean total control over every aspect of a person's body. In the context of this conversation, all it means is that the officer used enough force to overcome the subjects resistance. That's what that term means. I'm not trying to make excuses for the behavior as we all agree that there could have been a better outcome. My only point is that the officer was not out of line taking forceful action if they felt it was necessary. I think it is important to appreciate that the guy who got thrown was way out of line.
You can tell he's scraping the bottom of the barrel for encounters to make videos on, and then giving exaggerated grades to encourage/farm for interaction. It's why he's been doing so many double features, because the single encounter alone wouldn't make for long enough video, and why he's covering incidents only two months old, faaaar too early for there to have been much investigation, much less any sort of legal followup
"Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
A government that abuses its people or is tyrannical generates resistance to its rule. People who have been injured, maltreated, victimized, dishonored, or had close friends or relatives killed by the government, particularly by its security forces, may lash back at their government attackers. Thomas Jefferson ~ "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty,"
He also maintained a “hostile and aggressive demeanor” towards the officers throughout the entirety of the stop, which ATA will so quickly dock points from an officer for, but if it’s the citizen then it’s just in one ear and out the other
You can't be serious. Making the threat in front of the cops is stupid enough but that I can see. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have beat the kid up in front of them though. Then again I'm constantly surprised at how stupid people are.
I think the A- or B rating was warranted. It's very hard in such a situation to stay calm and be better, but that's what an A+ means. A+ is a perfect score. What he did in the end was justified, but, as AtA points out, dangerous. Plenty of times people have been arrested/tazed/shot for less because "he ran towards us aggressively".
Do you think its a good idea to walk fast towards a cop yelling? I sure like my life and wouldnt want them to fear for theirs and use their gun OR tazer to protect themselves
@@ZesPak EXACTLY. Only someone whos never had a job other than behind a desk would think its a good idea to jog towards an armed person while yelling at them. lol
so the second video, guy strait out made a death threat against a minor... not supporting or arguing against the use of force here but the phrase fuck around and find out exists for a reason
I think the driver in the first video should have gotten an A. The traffic stop was over once the Sargent made it clear that he wasn't willing to listen to the guy and walked away. At that point, he was free to go. He shouldn't have to limit his movements because cops are cowards.
That is totally correct according to the police. It was never a traffic stop and it was over before the sergeant came. He would be free to stay in his car or leave
Parks asked for that though the officers don't deserve an F for that at all. He literally threatened murder in front of officers, and maintained a belligerent attitude. Also, he was interrupting an investigation where a suspect had the chance to get away if he so chose
Yes for slamming him on concrete that luckily only knocked him unconscious.. that was excessive force even if the guy gets convicted on his charges he still can sue those officers and the city and win.
went to my city hall 5 days ago for a foia, cops showed up at my door 2 days after asking for the papers so they could hand them in? how did they know where i live and why are police at my door askig about what info im wanting about government?
Your second case rating is nonsense. The guy cleared showed agression toward the minor, and after putting his hands on cop and resisting arrest. I bet the judges will not rule excessive force.
the cop could of handled the situation better.doesnt matter minor or not he was old enough to run the streets so he was old enough to kbnow better.the cop technical put his hands on dude and he pushed his hand back while backing up.picking someone up above your head like that and then slamming them on concrete is murderous intent period
@@Katstackz7414Have you ever worked as a Caregiver, Nurse, Firefighter? That dude looked like he was around 5'10 to 6' and probably weighed around 180 to 220 pounds. To pick someone up that is struggling to stay down you would need to look not into weight but the amount of Newton Meters of force need to pick that person up and then to pick him up over your head is a feet that would be nearly impossible even when. There were 2 or 3 people there. If that were the case they should all be in the Olympics for being able to lift that much and would win Gold medals. Learn the properties of physics first before you say some crazy thing like that.
@@ManuelHernandez-ue8ei u must lick the boot. u bring physics into a siuation where more than 2 witnessess spoke on the officer picking that man up above his head 🤡.im 5'9 200 pounds and deff could pick a human being above my head and slam them your talking you ass lil dude🤣
...and yet he decided not to go and instead instigate an argument with police officers. Guy was an absolute douche. Nobody comes across well in that interaction, but he comes across the worst.
at the end of the day, he is allowed to exit his car, but also he knew these guys were commanded to leave immediately because they are idiots, and it was kind of a flex for Mr. Good at WORST. I still give him an A+ for standing up to GI droids. We NEED people like him in today's America.
@@implodingllama2092 Police have been promised Absolute Immunity in the near future. Although this would apply only in federal courts, every LEO defendant will be moving to transfer their case to the Feds. I see no reason that many, if not most, officers won't immediately take full advantage of this development.
I have bigtime respect for all of these auditors. Everyone handles situations differently, and some better or worse than others. I've never seen any of these auditors even come close to acting as poorly as I've seen our public servants towards the public. I appreciate all auditors for putting themselves out there for the better of us all. Citizens must be aware and equipped to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our fellow citizens from these rogue officers. I for one will not be unarmed if I see someone equipped with a gun approaching me. Holstered or upholstered I will not allow myself to be put in such a disadvantage. There's an epidemic of American police officers violating the public and causing them to fear for their lives during encounters. Citizens need to look out for each other. Keep recording at a safe distance, and always keep the beam on until the encounter clears. The only good badge is a fallen badge. God Bless Our World. 🙏
Notice how quickly the supervisor "explains" something he did not witness. "They pulled you over for..." Now think back to how many times you have heard police say, " I wasn't here to see it...."
I couldn't disagree with you more on the Auburn officers. I agree with every take you've ever had... this one is wrong in my opinion. Just let the cops do their jobs. The guy was an ass.
Knocking people unconscious for threatening somebody is not their job. I will never understand why people like you accept violence like that from people paid to uphold the law.
Second video...Mr. parks aggressively walked up to the minor suspect, belligerently threatened him, assaulted the police officer, and then resisted arrest. I don't believe the cops used excessive force
I agree, he was entirely at fault. However, I don't know if an arrest for a swatted hand was necessary. They should of tried for 30 more seconds or so to calm him down, I would have.
Agreed! I usually agree with ATA grading, but the "F" was unwarranted. It was Parks who charged towards the teenager in detainment, threatened him, then go aggressive with two cops trying to hold him back, and then subsequently handcuff him... I believe the actions of these cops was justified under the law.
I'm a resident of Auburn, NY. Our town is very concerned about some members of the local PD being too excessive. Some of the officers are fair and reasonable, but there are also quite a few that overstep the bounds of reasonable force. It's put everybody on edge, including all the police officers. This video that made it onto your channel is only one of many events we are dealing with right now.
The simple reply is, " I am ok officer thank you & I do not need assistance ". And then tell him you are driving off. The is a time and a place to stand your ground and this was not really it. Once you tell him you are ok and you understand you are not being detained you drive off, and not go all wokey asking for a supervisor.
Gopros are relatively cheap if you buy an older model. Batteries don't last long I would say find one that has the voice features so it's easier to turn it on hands free while walking.
Was the force excessive? Yes. Should the officers be punished? Yes. Do I have any sympathy for Mr. Parks? Nope. When you threaten to "smoke" someone, in front of police officers, you're putting yourself in the cold, unfeeling embrace of natural selection, a process we must all accept and respect.
I normally agree with the grades provided as I do with the first interaction. As for the 2nd interaction, the cops do not deserve an F. He hit a cop then resisted arrest.
I agree in principle, but cops LOOOOVVVE to use going hands on as an excuse to then go absolutely crazy using as much force as possible and inflicting intentional injury in retaliation. There's a big difference in being forced to take someone to the ground to detain them vs SLAMMING them down out of anger because "they deserved it". People get paralyzed or even die from that shit, and all the other times they don't, these details get lost in the bullshit police report where they clean it all up with carefully crafted, deliberately misleading phrasing. Cops HAVE to have emotional control, and often times they're some of the absolute worst.
He didn't hit a cop, he was getting the cops hand off of his shirt. That doesn't deserve being tackled to the ground, when he wasn't being detained or arrested, and was not a threat to the police at all. All he did was smack a cop's hand off of his shirt.
@ The guy was rightfully upset but when the cop told him to stop he should have stopped advancing towards the kid. He could have continued to make his point from wherever he was standing. Smack/hit are synonymous. If I smack someone, I would get arrested for assault, just like this guy did.
@@michaelhaydenbellHitting and swatting away someone’s hand differ. I’ve seen some cops give leniency when a victim illustrates passion. So what now? Do you believe the leo deserves a D-? Better?
The wording in the chief's statement from 30:36 to 30:43 is instructive: "Parks was lifted off the ground to 'decentralize' his balance" and "was taken to a 'platform' where he could be controlled" and "Upon 'reaching' (not "being thrown to") the ground...". Whenever an alleged authority figure uses so much uncommon and indirect terminology, it's a sure sign they're trying to cloud the picture.
It’s also amazing the length of dialogue time these cops out here are willing to engage in when the suspect is “Jamie” instead of “Jerome”… the patience and tolerance contrast is Fuggin Outstanding!! and Mr. Parks got exactly what he should…smh…🙄
Slap a cops hand away while threatening someone and you will be arrested too, and if you resist being arrested then yes you get taken to the ground. This is not a case of racism and it's a trash argument to try to say it is.
Sometimes. But other times it's important to have th officer verbalize on camera right on scene the who what when where why. That way they can't craft a narrative with a lawyer prior to trial.
Been following this since he first dropped the vid on his own channel. I was flabbergasted bt the audacity displayed here on this completely illegal stop - and even more concerned bcos it occurred right bhind release of several vids on death & injury done by LE during REQUESTED welfare checks. If they get away w performing 'welfare checks' on drivers (at their own discretion) then the entire validity of a traffic stop is out the window. It will be the 'pretextual welfare stop' if the Courts dont slam this down HARD!!
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15:20 You keep bootlicking AtA.... Horrible take on the first stop. Do better.
I need to get off my butt and install my dash cam.
You’d hate yourself if you needed it and didn’t have it. Get on it dude. Today.
Good idea
Same!!
My wife keeps telling me the same thing. I'm thinking today is the day I've got no plans today.
Life saver. Someone crashed into me and tried to commit fraud. I wasn't believed until I pulled out my video. I was about to lose a lot!
Another channel covered this. They pulled him over because he was complaining about the Deland PD and filed a complaint against him so this was in retaliation.
Link?
@@raulreyes6573 pretty sure it was on Lackluster's channel
I knew this was DeLand. WOW
@@raulreyes6573check out This is a Public Service's channel. This happened recently and he had some good shorter videos covering it.
@@raulreyes6573 I think “this is a public service” channel is linked in the description - there is another video with him and James Madison audits going to the police station conducting “free well being checks” after this stop 😂-
he was also live with Honor your oath in Daytona beach shores earlier this week after DBSPD arrested Jeff gray (honor your oath) then unarrested 😂 him for solicitation -
If you dont know this story (in full), either his channel or Lackluster have the full story. It was absolutely a retaliatory 'harassment' stop!
This is a public service and James Madison audits went to the police station after this stop to conduct “free well being checks” - they flipped it on them..😂 I am still not sure the cops even understood…🙄 but the message was very clear!
What a Surprise 😮
Of course it was. Never heard of such a stop.
Seems like he's a provocateur. Doesn't make the cops right but doesn't make the man an honest actor either.
@@Grizazzle Are you referring to other incidents, or did this one make him the dishonest one? The whole discussion was about THIS ONE.
"I'm gonna smoke you, I promise!" not the best thing to say around a cop lol
Guy wasnt the smartest crayon in the shed or whatever. 😂 and probably a thugie who just wanted to smoke someone and vent their anger on some kids. Good job to the police
And towards a child, criminal or not
Yeah I have minimal sympathy for this guy. Threatening violence in front of cops is spectacularly stupid.
19:12 "I just got in this bush, I've never been in this bush before." 😂
19:10 OMG the 2nd dude is hilarious. "I just got in this bush! I've never been in this bush before!" Comedy GOLD.
Glad someone else caught that 😀
I always say that when I'm caught in a new bush. Don't want the old bush getting jealous.
"There are no Hulkamaniacs in this bush!"
Lmao, I even read your comment before hearing it and it was still funny as hell. Hilarious.
Before the bush he was at the lie-berry, so..
"I appreciate the concern, but I do not need or want your help. Am I free to go or am I under arrest?"
Exactly. Mr. Good made this way worse than it needed to be. I think he's the fool of this scene
Yeah, could’ve been over in under a minute, but he had to blow it out of proportion.
Classic case of biting his nose to spite his face!
@@davidpearman4792 He had just filed a complaint at the department with that same officer that came up second... They followed him and did this just to F with him... He was pissed is why he acted that way.
And the officers said yes he was free to leave. He decided to stick around.
@@davidpearman4792 agreed.
How can our completely idiotic courts decide in cases such as Warren v. District of Columbia that the police have no obligation to protect the public, and then 5 minutes later decide when the police are bored and randomly want to "protect" the public that it's completely acceptable to violate your 4th amendment rights? We need to end lifetime appointments.
Because they are protected by Republicans, it's about to get far worse.
Good point! Any argument the police try to assert to justify their actions concerning "protecting the public" should be dismissed!
Effectively, the cops have no DUTY to protect you, but if they CHOOSE to "protect" you, you have to let them.
@@ajm5007 And that's absolutely unacceptable.
It's all about maximizing government's power and minimizing its liability.
I’m sorry but if a person is willing to make a death threat, to a child, in front of cops it’s fair to say that person is not thinking or acting rationally. If they then make physical contact with a cop it’s fair to think they would act on a physical threat. At that point they have made a death threat in front of a cop and started making physical contact, two things a majority of Americans will never do.
Not to mention he definitely tried to get to at the kid again after the he swatted the officer’s hand
Yeah, those cops did not deserve an F in this case, but I guess you have to be cautious with how you grade a situation like that, as some people like to play victims a lot.
@Flummelum yeah they did what they were supposed to do. They didn't even go at the kid hard. This time, the civilians were trying to minimize their friends actions as tho he wasn't overly aggressive
@Flummelum this channel is full of biased takes. Letter grades given based on "might" "maybe" and other meaningless statements. He's not wrong per se, but he is intentionally misleading with his interpretation of law to appeal to a specific audience.
This is trump's America, you guys dont wanna say you're racist but it's pretty obvious.
He did not exit the vehicle during the traffic stop. He was told that he was never detained and he wasn’t being detained.
When a police car lights you up, you ARE NOT free to leave. I don't know what's so hard to understand.
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I know. I was being sarcastic because it is ridiculous when the officers said that he wasn’t detained. You’re right - They were more than obviously lying.
@@jergenswillilander1407why do you support tyranny? That’s what I’m trying to understand.
@@jergenswillilander1407 both the cited cases and the cops themselves said you are wrong.
@@CeeDEE-l8b Not too bright I guess. If LE has you stopped on the side of the road and you are not free to leave, what do you call it. I know critical thinking is hard, but give it a shot. You are dead wrong here.
The second video is pretty wild. That neighbor didn’t do himself any favors.
People that can't tell the difference between a one foot and a six foot drop, or a leg sweep from a body slam, are really something special.
Classic case of fuck around and find out
Idk walking up on a suspect saying you're gonna "smoke" them doesn't seem to smart along with pushing the cop. Is it worth getting injured over? No. But his actions unfortunately led up to that.
@@Sadows12I agree I don’t think they get a F cause you can’t come flying in talking about your going to smoke someone then resist lmfao
@@dmacrolens I mean he was standing upright and was slammed face first into concrete from an upright position. His body wasn't 5-6 feet in the air but his face definitely was.
How sad that we need cameras to protect ourselves from the very people we pay to protect us...
we pay them to enforce laws. they have no obligation to our safety.
Same reason why we need transcripts in court even then judges have gotten caught conspiring to have their clerks stop recording if they say key words
Power corrupts
And its getting worse. Many officers, almost all, take an oath to "protect and defend the rights of the people".
I have yet to see that happen by more than one in any department.
@@patrickday4206
Like Judge Kenneth Lee Williams in Escambia County Florida. But, I got him without them knowing!
In Mr. The Good's defense, the traffic stop was over, and had been for several minutes, when he got out. He had been told several times that he was not detained.
Exactly! The stop was over.
Also agree. I can get the logic "Well the cops could react badly" but isn't that exactly what this channel is about? This is almost victim blaming. "Well you got out of the car, so they reacted. You did this to yourself".
That’s in the police’s defense. Not Mr. The Good
@@Orrinn123 How is it defense of the police when they are talking about the action of Mr. The Good and his grade being reduced even though he was "free to go"?
@ Oh I misunderstood. I thought he was explaining that he was not detained and therefore free to go. Which is what the police were saying when he kept talking about being detained. I didn’t know this was about the grade
How stupid can you be to walk up by the police and threaten to shoot someone? SMH people are insane.
I don’t think he did that, I think he threatened to “smoke” him.
@@HeavenlySunset24that's what smoke can mean in that context
@@drumanaut ...maybe he was talking about Mario Kart
Yep, and then to act all bully to the popo…straight up idiot.
@@drumanaut nope it means beat up
I would just like to say that I appreciate that your new videos shown are timely with relationship to when they actually happened and when you discuss them here.
31:36 sorry ATA, any reasonable person would also assume that after making s threat to kill a kid that this individual may very well have been armed and a danger. You have to understand that making s death threat infront of cops is not a thing a mentally secure person does unless they think they are able to carry out that threat.
The victim is mentally unwell because he was angry at the kid for breaking into his property? What?
@@tronicol235just a small correction… the teens hadn’t broke into his property, it was a preemptive threat
Its not that the fact that the other guy was breaking in to anything. But the one guy came out after police arrived, started talking shit thinking they were his body gaurds or a bro or some shit. Dude shouldnt have even approached the scene.
Ohhh, ok. So you're fine with your rights being taken away from you under false pretenses. All I heard was wellbeing check for driving. You sound like you might be on some kind of drug induced high. Why don't you forfeit all of your r
What’s your favorite flavor of boot polish?
This is totally bogus. A “well-being” check?? Really??
The driver needed someone to check on his well-being after the swine illegally detained him...
if one is driving like they got their Drivers license at COSTCO? YES!
@@bill2066
Did you not pay attention to the video?
@@bill2066if he was driving in an unsafe or illegal manner, the police would have said they pulled him over for driving in an illegal or unsafe manner. Instead they pulled him over because they wanted to pull him over. They're not allowed to do that.
@@mobrocket Wow, that was fast!!. Hey Professor, Did you not pay attention to the video?
16:57 "I'm going to arrest your mother". LOL, wut?!?
While I agree that making this statement is not wise, I am aware that some jurisdictions make parents criminally liable for the actions of minors in certain circumstances. However I see no point in stating that to the minor other than a failed intimidation tactic.
@@davidsimmons7359 Yeah it was weird as hell.
I wouldn't tell that cop where my mom was at or give him any of her info if he's threatening to arrest her.. that's my ride or die.
Maybe he's on a bail or something that requires her to keep him on curfew?
The cop seems to know the kid well and would probably know his bail conditions by heart.
@@davidsimmons7359 "Where is your mother?" "I think she's in jail again officer" (based on true personal story)
Man, I keep screaming to that second kid: STOP TALKING.
I like how the dude in the bush just up an answering questions nobody asked. "I never been in that bush before!"
The 2nd guy is an idiot
First guys an idiot
From his channel I believe …He was pulled over AFTER having just filed a police complaint with the same department
You owe me a million bucks for harassing me. I said it so it's true.
@@Doovoopvpxtreme 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@Doovoopvpxtreme🐷
this is correct, although i dont believe the complaint process went well iirc.
@@Doovoopvpxtreme ?
"I just got in this bush, I've never been in this bush before!"
Least innocent sentence ever 😂
Sorry Mr. The Good. You dug your own hole. Officer: Welfare Check, Are you Ok?
Mr. The Good: Im Fine.
Officer: Ok. Have a Great day
They don’t have a right just to stop a person for no reason. Pulling over 2 times is not “concerning” behavior. Bootlicker
@jenolson577 I saw 1 traffic stop in the video. As a First Responder, all he had to say was im fine. End of stop and end of story. Ass Wiper. Go lick your fingers.
Right? He dragged that out on purpose. My first question would be Am I being detained, or can I go?
Next, they'll want to check your Chakra's and verify that Mercury is NOT in retrograde.
that would be kinematics not dynamics.. we are a geostationary/centric plane.
That's if a woman wins President
9:04 This was NOT a welfare check. It was a pretext stop.
Wait until you see how much immunity trump gives his crooked blue army, you haven't seen anything yet. The amount of money that cops will steal from the public is about to skyrocket.
but the lights went on AFTER he pulled into the parking spot? It's at 2:52
Pretext stops are legal anyways
Retaliation for attempting to file complaints.
@@hectorabarron when there is no shown necessity? No.
Don’t man up on kids in front of cops.
And when a cop pulls out a tasor on teens with camera turned on?
That's so thoughtful of the Deland PD to ensure the wellbeing of the driver. Really makes me want to move there. I can only imagine how many times they have pulled this stunt to only fish for something further to arrest him.
Bad for real estate. Investors watch these videos and buy accordingly. Municipalities should rethink their commitment to these "public servants." Mayors, do you understand?
They are just harassing him because he has filed complaints on their gang brothers. They just want to waste his time and remind him they are watching.
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before.
Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking.
Other things may include mixing medications.
It's better to be safe than sorry, no?
Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this:
"Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
The combination lights, sirens, and the continued interaction with the officers are sufficient for a reasonable individual to consider themselves seized for the purposes of a traffic stop.
OMG...."I just got in this bush....I've never been in this bush before". I'm dying 😂
I wonder if the cop knows that there’s an entire gig economy out there of DoorDash and food delivery drivers who stopped frequently. I wonder if he pulls all of them over😂
I also pull over to look at the GPS sometimes. It's not safe to examine it with the level of concentration I require when the car is in motion, and the voice directions don't always cut it.
If you're clearly in control of the vehicle the whole time you pull over, then there's no reason to believe there's a problem!
More importantly, you are told to pull over to use your phone. Damn if you do, damn if you don't...
it was retaliatory, the one cop had been following him for sometime, everytime he got behind him, he pulled off the road and stopped to let the officer go by.
@@FrogsForBreakfast illegal to pull over and get your bearings but also illegal to mess with the phone and drive so it’s a damned if you do or don’t lol
Only when they're delivering donuts. They have a nose for those things.
As to the grade on the first one... It doesnt matter how the cop interpreted it, he was told he was free to go. With that he had every right to get out and express a grievance with his governent.
Yeah they definitely wouldn't have used him driving away from a traffic stop as an excuse to throw his ass in jail. All it takes is for them in their mind to decide you are detained and he can do as he pleases.
I think the grade was because of the safety factor. Even ATA is recognizing that cops can be dangerous even in lawful situations. Not good to be "right" and put yourself into a situation where you can be killed.
Even if he wasn't free to go before the Supervisor spoke to him, as soon as he walked away from the car the traffic stop was finished and he could get out of the car. As soon as the reason for the stop is resolved, the stop is over. The police don't get to hold you longer than that for no reason or a bogus reason like officer safety.
You’re interpreting it backwards. The man was free to go the entire time, he prolonged the stop by asking and waiting for a supervisor while working himself up into a fury. The first time that officer said he wasn’t detained and that he was free to go, that’s when you shut up and leave
@ the grade is in relation to your behavior in the stop, bet this time he assigned it based on behavior after the stop that was entirely within the man’s rights…
Dude said that he was going to shoot somebody and then slapped a cop he seems pretty lucky to be alive at this point
Agreed! I usually agree with ATA, but in this case, I don't. The officer's actions were justified under the law.
I dunno how his life was in jeopardy at any point,to say he's lucky to be alive is a little overboard. Not like he pulled a weapon out 🧐
I disagree that lethal force would have been warranted, but the force shown was absolutely warranted.
Very lucky indeed. He was a gift for those cops.
So you can’t pull over. You can’t sit in your car in a parking lot. You can’t drive while black or brown. You can’t drive an expensive car. You can’t drive slower or faster than the speed limit and you must drive in a perfectly straight line without nearing any road lines. Got it! 👍🏻
Also, no driving while poor and looking like you cant hire an attorney. And my newest favorite, no driving while sober.
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before.
Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking.
Other things may include mixing medications.
It's better to be safe than sorry, no?
Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this:
"Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
@numbnuts-lk8old Racist much boy ?
@@janemiettinen5176 Police don't get promoted if they don't pull people over and poor people can't afford lawyers. The incentive to target them is unavoidable. As my income level grew, arbitrary stops for speeding when I wasn't actually speeding eventually disappeared.
Don't walk 5 am going to work or you'll get bodyslammed by a cop.
Yes that happened.
2nd Guy thought they were His Friends. LOL. He received an Education that Day.
Mr. TheGood deserves an A. The traffic stop was over. The police officers had all walked away and gotten in their cars. He was legally allowed to get out of his car .
Agree. The driver wasn't even detained at any time during this stop.
Yeah he is basically saying he deducted points because even though he did nothing wrong some cops can and do use it as an excuse to escalate to another level
remember, when the cops dont detain you, you are not free to leave. so long as a cop car is behind you, you must stay in your vehicle and not go about your business...
fucking wild that this channel thinks its a negative that someone who was allegedly never detained, is not free to go about their business...
There are other videos out there showing people who need police assistance being arrested and thrown on the ground for trying to walk up to a police car. Many tyrants considered walking up to their vehicle to be aggressive, and they react very poorly. The fact the stop had ended doesn't reduce the danger of exiting the car and walking up to them. It is completely legal to walk up to them, and many (possibly even most) police are fine with it. But some aren't and it is dangerous.
Getting out of the car and yelling "Sargent!" I don't think I could with conscious say he deserves an A .
Threatening to kill a kid in front cops and everything that happened is on him.
agreed
When keeping it real goes wrong.
@@TyroneJackson-n6e
perfect way to say it
Ignore the law do you? Just like the police? Eye for an eye guy.
@@robschnack8377are you referring to the guy who threatened vigilante killing for the suspected crime of theft?
15:32 according to both cops this wasn’t a traffic stop and he wasn’t being detained and he was free to go. He had every goddamn Right as an American citizen to get out of his car anytime he wanted to. To suggest the citizen did something wrong that may get him killed by an unhinged cop is absurd.
You think it's "absurd" to say that an officer might shoot him for getting out? Are you serious?
What I think is absurd is that you're willing to risk the life of every civilian over the life of a gang member who is known for taking advantage of their power... I don't know it seems pretty absurd when they had no problem cause
Omg my first thought was that he was going to get shot by these looney toons playing as cops! You’re crazy!!
@@-Monad-I don’t think he’s saying it’s absurd a trigger happy cop would 100% shoot him. It’s absurd that it is “normal” for cops to shoot unarmed citizens. The traffic stop was over and the incredibly immature cops walked away kid conversation. Not one but two, one being a supervisor. They made an illegal stop and then wouldn’t listen to the citizen cuz they couldn’t handle being questioned.
@@-Monad- I agree that the citizen stepping out could get him shot. Heck a nervous twitch, or rebuking in the name of Jesus is enough for some officers... I don't think that's what Emceepe meant. "To suggest the citizen did something wrong..." is what's absurd, not that the officer may hurt the citizen... The comment Emceepe made is (edited), so it may have stated that at first? I don't know. While it may be foolish in a lot of cases to confront an officer like this, it's not wrong to think you have a right to do so.
big bad tuff guy, humbled QUICK!
Officers always feel justified in hurting people, they are taught that anyone is allowed to get hurt except them. They are truly awful about it.
The second case.....had the guy not want to be big and bad coming up and threatening this kid he wouldn't have ended up knocked out. When the cop says step back, step back. COMPLY! Why call the cops IF you wanna take the law in your own hands. The cops tried to push him back, but Parks jerked away, AND he also threatened to "smoke" the kid. Victim or not, you can't do that. By our own laws, everyone is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. It's not the other way around.
i agree with what you said you shouldn't do those things but does that justify being dumped on your head from chest high??? i mean that is deadly force. do you think "death or great bodily harm" was needed for an empty threat. there was 4 or more cops around.
Great to see that applicants are properly vetted when accepted into the police academy
They do make sure they aren't above average in intelligence.
Yup "can you shoot with little reason? Do you have a history of psychotic behavior? How many times a hour do you beat your wife and kids?"
@@technne-gu1yuYour comment had me laughing so hard lol
@@technne-gu1yu it's scary that your comment is too close to the truth while also being funny and terrifying at the same time.
B+ ? Wrong! First of all the officers said they were not detaining him. And if so....the detainment was concluded.
It doesn't matter what they say. Cops can and will lie to you. That being said when you are pulled over by a cop you are defacto being detained. The second they turn on those lights legal or not they are actively detaining you by forcing you to stop and talk to them. Generally mutual conversations aren't started by being pulled over by police.
He’s correct though. As disgusting as it is, those corrupt cops could have used it as an opportunity to arrest him as they would have loved that.
@@Romanus-and he would’ve won a lot of money. Invoking rights shouldn’t hurt your grade
I think this grade fits him perfectly, cops are definitely in the wrong but he really edged on escalating the situation unnecessarily.
“I just got in this bush! Ive never been in this bush before “ 😂😂😂
The supreme court says officer are not responible for our well being..this officer is 100% wrong, his sargent is 100% wrong. They both need serious repercussions for their outrageous behavior
Reasons someone may pull over frequently is because of medical reasons, such as dizzy feelings caused by a stroke or seizure, especially if you haven't experienced such a thing before.
Trust me, having your vision completely blur away isn't fun, even when walking.
Other things may include mixing medications.
It's better to be safe than sorry, no?
Hey, if you've read this far, you should also read this:
"Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
What kinda idiot walks up to somebody while cops are there and wants to act tough and threaten
I agree, the man was in a rage and being excessively aggressive. No wonder the kid was hiding. The kids life was in danger.
Diedrich Parks, apparently.
hes a pissed off human being was he wrong no.could the cop handled the siutation better yes.
@@Katstackz7414 yes he was wrong, “use your words”he’s not five years old with no self control ,he’s a grown man . But I do agree that officers can handle it better, they’re supposed to be the trained professionals
You're missing the entire point. Emotional self-control does not come automatically with age. It's something that needs to be taught while growing up. Many people never properly learn this. We see one of them in this video.
I’d like to know more about the 2nd story. What became of the juvenile? What’s the legality of threats to arrest his mother? Also, why did the cops jump to arresting the mother and not mention the father? Are moms more accountable for their children’s behavior than dads?
I'm more concerned that being outside while it is raining it is illegal to be outside.
Cutting through neighbors yards after dark with Something us kids did all the time in the 80s. It was like an intricate game of hide and seek, kick the can or cops and robbers. However, in the 80s everyone on the block knew each other and the kids came out of at least four of the houses on my street and there was almost zero crime in that neighborhood. We had it sooo good in the 80’s.
Same in the 60's and 70's. We didn't know everyone, but people didn't call the police every 5 minutes.
The B+ should be an A due to the police repeatedly saying he’s “not being detained” and the “traffic stop” had ended when they abruptly left
No, the guy was knowingly and deliberately escalating. If he simply said "I'm fine, can I leave or am I detained?" it ends the interaction (or the police then actually DO go out of their legal grounds) but he chooses not to do that and demands to get his licks in with the supervisor instead. The fact he never asks if he can leave tells you everything about what the guy wants from the interaction.
@ 🤣😂🤣 ok
he deserves an A++ bc he never was in a traffic stop and the cops were leaving at that point so can could LEGALLY get out at any point
Castle Rock V. Gonzales says police have no duty to protect you, so how is a "Well being check" a valid, legal reason to stop someone?
3:35 - Lol. Cop is doing a "well being check". Sure. That sounds legit.
NOT! Just another lying cop. Pathetic.
🇿🇦🤙🏼
Methinks we should do a wellbeing check on the officer, since he's claiming to see things that don't match reality 😂
Cops lie, that's their native language. They do it on and off the job constantly because they become so used to it.
ATA, I'm not sure I agree with the F grade for officers in the second encounter. The idea that this was excessive force hinges on the idea that the subject was purposely slammed head first into the ground which I am not convinced was the intent of the officer. I agree that the officer could have been more patient before engaging in a forceful takedown but based on the sequence of events, the officers had warrant to arrest him and the consequences are on the subject, not the officers. It's important to note that the original youth said that he had been chased, this subject threatened to 'smoke' the youth, physically approached in a threatening manner, and assaulted the officer giving then more than enough cause for their response. Had their been any indication that the officers intent was to slam the subjects head into the sidewalk, I would agree with the assessment but I see no evidence of that. Every citizen must recognize that they cannot approach another person with a threatening manner and must yield to the authority of police. Being angry is not an excuse. Had the subject landed on the grass or not head first in an uncontrolled takedown, I'm sure this would have turned out very differently. I'd say C- because there was no indication of imminent danger. More patience would have been reasonable.
that was my take as well….the kid was a smug little jerk off with a clear history of engaging in bad or even criminal behavior…..
As a former police officer though it is difficult to determine if in the second video it was excessive or just an outcome of the totality of the resistance…..
I counted 5 maybe 6? officers on the scene. This is more than enough personnel to prevent any of the combative citizens from getting within arm's reach of each other - which they should be doing. Clearly one of the angry citizens in the group is who called the police. Clearly the kid from the bush and his friends are annoying punks that cause trouble. The officers should recognize that potential volatility of the situation and take immediate steps to deescalate it. Instead, they let it get out of hand and then overreact.
Not purposely slammed? lol. The police chief said "His upper body was controlled by the officer. Parks was lifted off the ground..." and then "taken to a platform" (ie: the ground). If his upper body was "controlled", then how'd he hit his head?? Only explanation is it was done on purpose.
@dinosaur1900 controlling the upper body doesn't mean total control over every aspect of a person's body. In the context of this conversation, all it means is that the officer used enough force to overcome the subjects resistance. That's what that term means. I'm not trying to make excuses for the behavior as we all agree that there could have been a better outcome. My only point is that the officer was not out of line taking forceful action if they felt it was necessary. I think it is important to appreciate that the guy who got thrown was way out of line.
You can tell he's scraping the bottom of the barrel for encounters to make videos on, and then giving exaggerated grades to encourage/farm for interaction. It's why he's been doing so many double features, because the single encounter alone wouldn't make for long enough video, and why he's covering incidents only two months old, faaaar too early for there to have been much investigation, much less any sort of legal followup
“I’ve never been in this bush before” 🤣😂🤣😂
Mr. Good literally chased down the officer to continue arguing. Talk about "looking for a fight." He was looking to make a mountain out of a molehill.
"Mr. DeGood" does this very frequently in live streams then cutting out the incriminating parts at the beginning of his "work". He finds parked police cars, parks as close as possible (usually across the street) in case the officer(s) are in the middle of any interaction with the public, then recording on his phone. If they are simply parked, he will still record on his phone, but when he feels the officer has taken enough notice of him, he will drive away, and if followed, he'll park somewhere else, usually a business, space, then some minutes later, will check back in on the original patrol car and do it all over again, until something worth filming occurs.
A government that abuses its people or is tyrannical generates resistance to its rule. People who have been injured, maltreated, victimized, dishonored, or had close friends or relatives killed by the government, particularly by its security forces, may lash back at their government attackers.
Thomas Jefferson ~ "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty,"
When the government fears acorns, all h3ll breaks loose.
Mr The Good did NOT get out of his vehicle during the traffic stop.
He had been told clearly, and unambiguously, that he was not being detained.
He also maintained a “hostile and aggressive demeanor” towards the officers throughout the entirety of the stop, which ATA will so quickly dock points from an officer for, but if it’s the citizen then it’s just in one ear and out the other
@@XANApwnsas it should be. Public servants have a responsibility to act in a servile manner. Random citizens don’t.
Pretty sure that guy was going to beat the shit out of the minor.
You can't be serious. Making the threat in front of the cops is stupid enough but that I can see. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have beat the kid up in front of them though. Then again I'm constantly surprised at how stupid people are.
@@imvandenhhe did that in front of a cop and you really think he wasn’t gonna beat that kid. Seriously
Dude caught himself driving with a cellphone in hand while car is moving so he incriminated himself with a ticket..
good point
I’m going to arrest your mother? What a ridiculous statement.
BUT HE CUT THROUGH YARDS
I think the first guy deserves an A+ tbh but I understand your reasonings
A+ from a legal perspective, B+ when factoring in his personal safety in the light of unhinged cops escalating for much, much less.
@ I absolutely agree!
I think the A- or B rating was warranted. It's very hard in such a situation to stay calm and be better, but that's what an A+ means. A+ is a perfect score. What he did in the end was justified, but, as AtA points out, dangerous. Plenty of times people have been arrested/tazed/shot for less because "he ran towards us aggressively".
Do you think its a good idea to walk fast towards a cop yelling? I sure like my life and wouldnt want them to fear for theirs and use their gun OR tazer to protect themselves
@@ZesPak EXACTLY. Only someone whos never had a job other than behind a desk would think its a good idea to jog towards an armed person while yelling at them. lol
so the second video, guy strait out made a death threat against a minor... not supporting or arguing against the use of force here but the phrase fuck around and find out exists for a reason
I think the driver in the first video should have gotten an A.
The traffic stop was over once the Sargent made it clear that he wasn't willing to listen to the guy and walked away. At that point, he was free to go. He shouldn't have to limit his movements because cops are cowards.
I thought the same... maybe an A-
According to the cop the driver was not detained and then free to move about. Grade A.
That is totally correct according to the police. It was never a traffic stop and it was over before the sergeant came. He would be free to stay in his car or leave
So tell us youve always had a job behind a desk without saying it! Good job.
Nah, gets an F for being a dipshit lol
For the first couple minutes, I was in awe of the chill the driver showed at getting pulled over for a wild bean check.
question: how do you suggest the officers should have "forced" mr. Parks to comply?! I strongly disagree with your rating of the officers.
Parks asked for that though the officers don't deserve an F for that at all. He literally threatened murder in front of officers, and maintained a belligerent attitude. Also, he was interrupting an investigation where a suspect had the chance to get away if he so chose
Yes for slamming him on concrete that luckily only knocked him unconscious.. that was excessive force even if the guy gets convicted on his charges he still can sue those officers and the city and win.
@@thomaslascola9683no
went to my city hall 5 days ago for a foia, cops showed up at my door 2 days after asking for the papers so they could hand them in? how did they know where i live and why are police at my door askig about what info im wanting about government?
Intimidation...
@@propagandaisnottrue2121 i held my wrists out said cuff me or kick rocks.
Your second case rating is nonsense. The guy cleared showed agression toward the minor, and after putting his hands on cop and resisting arrest. I bet the judges will not rule excessive force.
i mean yeah, but do you want the cop applying deadly force because someone is mad about crime or because of an empty threat.
the cop could of handled the situation better.doesnt matter minor or not he was old enough to run the streets so he was old enough to kbnow better.the cop technical put his hands on dude and he pushed his hand back while backing up.picking someone up above your head like that and then slamming them on concrete is murderous intent period
@@Katstackz7414Have you ever worked as a Caregiver, Nurse, Firefighter? That dude looked like he was around 5'10 to 6' and probably weighed around 180 to 220 pounds. To pick someone up that is struggling to stay down you would need to look not into weight but the amount of Newton Meters of force need to pick that person up and then to pick him up over your head is a feet that would be nearly impossible even when. There were 2 or 3 people there. If that were the case they should all be in the Olympics for being able to lift that much and would win Gold medals.
Learn the properties of physics first before you say some crazy thing like that.
@@ManuelHernandez-ue8ei u must lick the boot. u bring physics into a siuation where more than 2 witnessess spoke on the officer picking that man up above his head 🤡.im 5'9 200 pounds and deff could pick a human being above my head and slam them your talking you ass lil dude🤣
@@ManuelHernandez-ue8ei This is America, the SI system is UNPATRIOTIC! To hell with newtons, meters, milliliters, etc!
He didn't get out in the middle of a traffic stop. He had been told several times he was free to go, meaning the stop was over.
...and yet he decided not to go and instead instigate an argument with police officers.
Guy was an absolute douche. Nobody comes across well in that interaction, but he comes across the worst.
at the end of the day, he is allowed to exit his car, but also he knew these guys were commanded to leave immediately because they are idiots, and it was kind of a flex for Mr. Good at WORST. I still give him an A+ for standing up to GI droids. We NEED people like him in today's America.
Dude asked for a trip to the ground. The ground is hard.
"trip to the ground" is a funny way of saying deadly force.
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The world is watching how ignorant our police are and it’s embarrassing to us.
It’s about to get 100 times worse in the coming years
Not “your” police brother. Police all over the western world are being shown up as the ignorant tyrants they are.
@@Rooln1fantasy land
@@implodingllama2092 I hope you’re right
@@implodingllama2092 Police have been promised Absolute Immunity in the near future. Although this would apply only in federal courts, every LEO defendant will be moving to transfer their case to the Feds. I see no reason that many, if not most, officers won't immediately take full advantage of this development.
That first guy, is my spirit animal.
I have bigtime respect for all of these auditors. Everyone handles situations differently, and some better or worse than others. I've never seen any of these auditors even come close to acting as poorly as I've seen our public servants towards the public. I appreciate all auditors for putting themselves out there for the better of us all. Citizens must be aware and equipped to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our fellow citizens from these rogue officers. I for one will not be unarmed if I see someone equipped with a gun approaching me. Holstered or upholstered I will not allow myself to be put in such a disadvantage. There's an epidemic of American police officers violating the public and causing them to fear for their lives during encounters. Citizens need to look out for each other. Keep recording at a safe distance, and always keep the beam on until the encounter clears. The only good badge is a fallen badge. God Bless Our World. 🙏
Notice how quickly the supervisor "explains" something he did not witness. "They pulled you over for..." Now think back to how many times you have heard police say, " I wasn't here to see it...."
I couldn't disagree with you more on the Auburn officers. I agree with every take you've ever had... this one is wrong in my opinion. Just let the cops do their jobs. The guy was an ass.
Knocking people unconscious for threatening somebody is not their job. I will never understand why people like you accept violence like that from people paid to uphold the law.
Second video...Mr. parks aggressively walked up to the minor suspect, belligerently threatened him, assaulted the police officer, and then resisted arrest. I don't believe the cops used excessive force
Gotta analyze incident by incident
I agree, he was entirely at fault. However, I don't know if an arrest for a swatted hand was necessary. They should of tried for 30 more seconds or so to calm him down, I would have.
No. And you're not a good human. No one deserves to be almost murdered because they resisted an assault by police.
Idk. We need to stop normalizing the police slamming people's heads on the ground. It's dangerous
Agreed! I usually agree with ATA grading, but the "F" was unwarranted. It was Parks who charged towards the teenager in detainment, threatened him, then go aggressive with two cops trying to hold him back, and then subsequently handcuff him... I believe the actions of these cops was justified under the law.
I'm a resident of Auburn, NY. Our town is very concerned about some members of the local PD being too excessive. Some of the officers are fair and reasonable, but there are also quite a few that overstep the bounds of reasonable force. It's put everybody on edge, including all the police officers. This video that made it onto your channel is only one of many events we are dealing with right now.
This is my favorite TH-cam channel. I learn something new with every video.
The simple reply is, " I am ok officer thank you & I do not need assistance ". And then tell him you are driving off. The is a time and a place to stand your ground and this was not really it. Once you tell him you are ok and you understand you are not being detained you drive off, and not go all wokey asking for a supervisor.
I'm hiding my jackbooted thuggery behind a facade of kindness.
Here we go!
That 1st dude was for sure being harrassed by them. Its a damn shame
I dig the crap out of “ This is a public service”’s channel. Great balance of straight forwardness with a humane touch of empathy.
I should look into a dash cam plus even my own body camera to wear when I'm even just walking around in public.
Gopros are relatively cheap if you buy an older model. Batteries don't last long I would say find one that has the voice features so it's easier to turn it on hands free while walking.
@Rustasious my budget is tight, so for now, I'll be sure to use my phone and look into those options for the future.
@@justinrabbitt9492my first dash cam was under $50 on Amazon… my first “GoPro” was like 25$ on Amazon too… better battery life FOR SURE!
“Threatens to quote on quote “smoke him” if he catches him near his quote on quote “crib” again”
This had me laughing for some reason
SAME 😂😂
Was the force excessive? Yes. Should the officers be punished? Yes. Do I have any sympathy for Mr. Parks? Nope. When you threaten to "smoke" someone, in front of police officers, you're putting yourself in the cold, unfeeling embrace of natural selection, a process we must all accept and respect.
16:45 Cop: "I'm going to arrest your mother." Can they do that??? 😮
Probably depends on the state and if the mother has been warned before about watching her children.
I normally agree with the grades provided as I do with the first interaction. As for the 2nd interaction, the cops do not deserve an F. He hit a cop then resisted arrest.
Exactly!
I agree in principle, but cops LOOOOVVVE to use going hands on as an excuse to then go absolutely crazy using as much force as possible and inflicting intentional injury in retaliation. There's a big difference in being forced to take someone to the ground to detain them vs SLAMMING them down out of anger because "they deserved it". People get paralyzed or even die from that shit, and all the other times they don't, these details get lost in the bullshit police report where they clean it all up with carefully crafted, deliberately misleading phrasing. Cops HAVE to have emotional control, and often times they're some of the absolute worst.
He didn't hit a cop, he was getting the cops hand off of his shirt. That doesn't deserve being tackled to the ground, when he wasn't being detained or arrested, and was not a threat to the police at all. All he did was smack a cop's hand off of his shirt.
@ The guy was rightfully upset but when the cop told him to stop he should have stopped advancing towards the kid. He could have continued to make his point from wherever he was standing.
Smack/hit are synonymous. If I smack someone, I would get arrested for assault, just like this guy did.
@@michaelhaydenbellHitting and swatting away someone’s hand differ. I’ve seen some cops give leniency when a victim illustrates passion. So what now? Do you believe the leo deserves a D-? Better?
Neglects to mention this was out of retaliation and dings the driver's grade for legally exiting his vehicle during a non-detention lol.
19:10 "I've never been in this bush before" - me and my friends talking about girls when we were 15
A+ comment
Ehhhhn. I just would have said "I'm fine, thanks." He's the one that prolonged the stop by asking for a supervisor.
The wording in the chief's statement from 30:36 to 30:43 is instructive: "Parks was lifted off the ground to 'decentralize' his balance" and "was taken to a 'platform' where he could be controlled" and "Upon 'reaching' (not "being thrown to") the ground...". Whenever an alleged authority figure uses so much uncommon and indirect terminology, it's a sure sign they're trying to cloud the picture.
It’s also amazing the length of dialogue time these cops out here are willing to engage in when the suspect is “Jamie” instead of “Jerome”…
the patience and tolerance contrast is Fuggin Outstanding!!
and Mr. Parks got exactly what he should…smh…🙄
Slap a cops hand away while threatening someone and you will be arrested too, and if you resist being arrested then yes you get taken to the ground. This is not a case of racism and it's a trash argument to try to say it is.
It's simple: am I being detained? Am I free to go? If they reply yes and or no? Invoke the 5th and say no more.
EXACTLY I just don't understand people talking to cops, Anything you say is used against you 😡
Sometimes. But other times it's important to have th officer verbalize on camera right on scene the who what when where why. That way they can't craft a narrative with a lawyer prior to trial.
@@julialibor9341Guy needed content for his channel.
Mostly. You're still obligated to provide certain information during a traffic stop, but I agree, mostly.
Been following this since he first dropped the vid on his own channel. I was flabbergasted bt the audacity displayed here on this completely illegal stop - and even more concerned bcos it occurred right bhind release of several vids on death & injury done by LE during REQUESTED welfare checks. If they get away w performing 'welfare checks' on drivers (at their own discretion) then the entire validity of a traffic stop is out the window. It will be the 'pretextual welfare stop' if the Courts dont slam this down HARD!!
The amount of times I pull over to reset my GPS 😂 thank goodness I don't live in Florida.
"Officer, thanks for much for checking up on me, am I free to go now?"