Maybe Tash was pissed that their mom made them cook because it's supposed to be feminine according to the writer. Which provoked them to put an end to it? That's the only meaningful explanation I can think of...
@@wampyrelli Bro if that true the writer of this game is a genius, the writer think cooking is just for women although it is basic skill everyone should have
xDDDD So you basically had something that look like a half demon which start talk with her mother by saying "i'm nonbinary"? Damn, I miss I not talk with my players as NPC when I was a game master before. And her mother sound very reasonable and ask good questions, propably something you should expect from well manered demon looking thing. But all fall the moment when she start to talk some crap, more I expected some "kill for Khorne and not talk some bullcrap".
Yeah, the irrational anger is very realistic from my experience. I used to work with a non binary person, and she would get offended whenever someone referred to her as "she" or "her" even though biologically it was pretty obvious were female.
The mom was just trying to figure out what was going on. She asked some questions but she was yelled at for not immediately accepting what she didn't understand.
I wished I had Tash mother, mine wasn't even close if we're talking about reasonable people, but I guess this self-inserted character was meant to be sth else, as we should be on her side in this rather than support her mother.
I saw someone post a vid showing that if you don’t have a strong enough bond with her and choose her to go defend something at one point she legit gets one tap dumpstered by some huge burly man in one of the climax battles.
It actually means "Through struggle, we find purpose." Sten explains that in some of his hidden dialogue in Origins. So this interaction spits in the proverbial face of the interesting complexities of the Qunari because Weekes (the writer of Taash and the guy bastardized the Qunari in Inquisition), Busch (the trans queerosexual gendermancer that was put charge of Veilguard), and the voice actress of Taash (who not-so coincidentally identifies as non-binary) had to make this a vehicle for their collective trauma dump
I was about to convince my wife to play this today because she spent 70$ on it, but holy shit, I think we will do a refund and do a 4th run of BG3 with her instead lol
@@BloodDracolich Agreed. The fact that you can put a penis on your female character and a vagina on your male one and use they/them pronouns is 🤮. But at least it's just kept to that and they focus on story and character development first and foremost.
To think that Dragonage 2, as flawed as it is, represented the Qunari perfectly and had the best designs. Now it’s just a frigate wide forehead with horns.
Who approved this, thinking it will legitimately help them sell more games. This is ridiculous. Ruining games to pander to a fraction of the population. They deserve everything they get from this.
I'm actually glad you brought this up. Because Binary as a word was created in the 1440s. Then gained new definitions over the years, like 1970s and 1990s. Just look at the year differences between the 1440s and 1970-1990s. Dragon age was medieval. Words like binary probably never existed. But it rootly means 'Two of Two' They could have just gone with the Qun word, as spoken in the initial outburst of none acceptance. Qunari have been drilled over this and it's been seen that Tal-Vashoth still show sone respect for their upbringing. Mind you Tal-Vashoth are Undesirables in the Qunari culture. It also guess to say while they do accept members of the Qun who identify as... different? They also barely tolerate them. The Qunari live for the collective- not the individual. Tash being who she is, it's whybthey hate other cultures. The Qunari have also been shown to have the right responses through each game's crisis: The Blight in Origins. The Mage problem in DA2. The state of Thedas in Inquisition. Draconian. But they deal with the issue front and center.
What's weird in alll of this scene too is: remove the cosplay and the cosmetics, and this scene is 2024 in a kitchen. Just looks so surrreal to see this in a fantasy game. The disposition, the 'dining room' it reeks of 21st centurism.
To be fair this is intentional. Minrathous, the Imperium, and many areas in Northern Thedas in lore are said to be more technologically advanced than southern Thedas (where we spend the majority of the previous three games). But to see this game use terminology no different than modern slang to promote self-destructive behavior is pretty cringe.
At it's core, it's a vacuous & pretentious game with no soul. How anyone can get immersed in a empty calorie experience is completely beyond me. This is the poor foundation of most AAA games today, not just a waste of money, but of time itself, life is too short for this trite trash.
@@lastnamefirstname850Dunno about that, though in this case, it's objectively bad for sure. Celeste was progressive too and it's a great game, though that game used it's progressive elements tactfully, and this one has the subtlety of a brick coming through your window.
This is not progressive, it's regressing into the stereotypical male/female roles as this non-binary/transgender ideology is based in gender stereotypes. "If I like both the color pink and blue I must be non-binary. If I 'm a boy and like pink, I must be a girl." Of course this is not just about color, but so much more, but I just tried to explain it as simple as I could.
Fantasy has always mirrored modern-day politics, but you have to do it in a way that feels natural to that universe. Characters can't just start saying modern terminology like "non-binary" or "queer". You can just make up new words and mean the exact same thing so it feels less jarring. It's like somebody in a fantasy setting "rizz" or "eco-friendly", it just sounds weird for them to be using such recent and modern language.
I never played DA games but I think someone said that fitting terminology already existed, if true it would be doubly awful if they just ignored that because they are completely unable to paraphrase modern issues into a fantasy setting
@@juice6521 Non-binary is just "I don't want to be associated with my gender because I'm not like the other girls/guys". Literally everyone is unique in their own ways. It's a label that applies to everyone who wants to be annoying enough to use it. Any new fantasy terminology for it would be equally annoying. Good fantasy doesn't make itself dated with modern politics like this.
Strangely enough, its not the non-buynary thing that bothers me the most. I do lack the context from the game as I haven't played it, and I am less likely to do so each day, but I need to talk about this. Taash's mother talks a lot about Qun like she still believes in it. But under the Qun, Qunari DO NOT KNOW THEIR PARENTS. The very concept of a family unit deos not exist under the Qun. So maybe her mother left the Qun when she was pregnant, but then why does she holds so close to the tenants of this religion if she so openly defied it. So by that logic both, Taash and the mother are Taal'vashoth, so I find it extremely hard to imagine Qunari peacefully interacting with someone like that. I know that Qunari have a peaceful settlement in Rivain, but they are known to not take kindly to Qunari violating their laws, let alone leave the Qun. Quanri have always been to me the most interesting thing about the whole setting, so it bothers me like a pebble in my shoe.
The Qun also have their own in-universe terminology. One of Iron Bull’s squad was trans in DA: Inquisition and that was already a concept the lore recognized 10 years ago
Yeah, the Qun are raised by a class of people who exist just for that. They don't bare the children, but they raise them. That are also fine with trans. One of them was in Iron Bull's merc band. There was no need for the ret-con to focus on this. They already did that will the trans man in Inquisition. This is just confusing lore mangling.
@@manaofonyx7550 A writer a BioWare wanted to do a 100% contemporary storyline about a character being NB. But that’s going to completely pull people out of the universe regardless of their political opinions because now fantasy characters are talking like 2024 college kids. It’s totally possible to address LGBT subject matter in a fantasy setting while keeping the writing non-immersion breaking. Game of Thrones can have gay characters like Loras and Laenor, but Martin doesn’t date the story by having characters get into contemporary sounding gay marriage debates.
@@TheJadedJames Well, that writer is a fool. A ret-con for your agenda doesn't sell product or keep you employed. I've seen perfectly good LGBT stories within Dragon Age already. This was unnecessary when they have shown that they CAN do it well. One of the reason I love Bioware games is that they had gay romances before anyone else and they didn't care who complained. I'm a lesbian and that meant a lot to me. It still only mattered if the games were fun and the stories fit. This seems so out of place.
@@manaofonyx7550 DAI was a retcon, the Qunari heavily disavow people who try to escape their fate and be something they are not. A qunari tr00n (which wouldn't exist since it's a modern invention 😂) would be in the same tier as a mage or anyone that goes agasint the Qun
I remember how much Origins helped me with my English as a non-native. Now, well... Now we have *THIS*. 21st century first world country teenage-sounding Qunaris.
I think the mother is supposed to be that stern parent that doesn't show affection but turns out they deeply loved their kid all along, but instead I see a scene of a parent taking it calmly, asking them to explain and even trying to understand by drawing parallels to what they know (whatever the fuck an aqun-athlok is) and she lashed out like she was measuring her up against someone or finding her wanting. The child is the one, literally, telling their parent to do better, when they are the only one trying. Man I hope the player has a choice of saying "What the fuck, Taash? What's wrong with you?" during the scene.
@@georgeray1906 So you mean she wasn't just trying, she was even close to the mark. Honestly I thought that to drive the point home of being "misunderstood" it would be something like "twisted soul" or "just confused" to make it look like the mother was old fashioned or lacking empathy. Truly this character doesn't get better the more I find out. Amazing.
Idk if it's the VA or the direction of the voice for taash but man its just hard to listen to...the growling and the trying to sound masculine just comes off so....forced i guess and incredibly Unnatural.
@joethealternativegamer3935 its just sad that every games nowadays either do this sort of thing or they get bashed for being bigots, but at the end, it's the gamer that will choose 😎
This dialogue in the first scene sounds like the writer had a lightbulb moment in the shower - probably triggered by something that happened in real life - but, of course, they missed their chance to deliver the perfect comeback. Now they're replaying it in their mind, imagining the flawless zinger they could have said.
Thanks, that's me, I've been waiting for Dragon Age: Dreadwolf for years. Instead I got DEI: Wokeguard If I ever play this... IF!... I'm not paying a single coin.
Dev team thought their lives are so tragically epic that everyone needs to experience it via self-inserts in this groomer propaganda disguised as a DA title. These ideological zealots are everywhere now!
Pause the video at 4:12 and tell me that mask doesn't look like something a kid drew on paper plate for Halloween. Least intimidating Dragon King ever.
Iirc aqun-athlok isn't talking about "gender given at birth" It's about someone who's role don't match their gender according to The Qun; i.e. female soldier. Also iirc, (and need more context) Qunari don't know their birth parents, they are given to caretakers called Tamassran since birth Maybe this Shathan is that instead of actual mother Qunari culture doesn't acknowledge individuality, they don't have personal name, only their role/rank under the Qun There is no way they would care what you identified as Based on Qunari depiction in previous games, someone like Taash would either be 're-educated' or declared as Tal Vasoth and killed I don't know what happened to Harding but she seems to lose a heavy dose of intelligence compared to Inquisition version
I've written fan-fiction with better dialogue than this triple A "game" (really, it SHOULD be called a "chore" because it's a SLOG to get through) - and let me tell you, I am, by no means, the best fan-fiction writer out there. Seeing worse writing coming from a studio with (a) "professional" writer/s makes me feel a LOT better about my own writing.
Thank you sincerely for putting this compilation together! Anyone needing an Immersion Breaking Dialogue 101 lesson could cringe to this collection of...questionable...direction in narration.
What an insufferable git of a character. Also, that first scene with Taash and Harding is incomprehensible, man. People don't answer each other's questions! They just move on to the next topic or repeat information. It's like taking crazy pills.
So, im Captain of the enterprise...so, im now youre going to call me admiral. You realize this person would probably think im stupid? Or would probably start calling me admiral. I dont know which one is worse
The *moment* I saw Taash I knew she'd be the most insufferable of all. 😑 Can we recruit her mom instead? The hilariously deadpan anti-woke version, of course.
It's kind of funny how the writer obviously trauma dump on the players, but everyone seems to think taash is in the wrong and the mother was reasonable.
Nobody hates the triple fantasy of non-binary, maybe some, but what sucks is why all the writers that want push it on every piece of content they can, suck so much at writing compelling narratives or dialogues and sht great pieces of IP
People usually exaggerate when they say this but I literally felt like vomiting sitting through these 8 minutes of pure cringe, this shit is an actual disease.
"Here... vegetables... So... I'm non-binary"
Superb writing!
@@Kris.G best in the business!
Maybe Tash was pissed that their mom made them cook because it's supposed to be feminine according to the writer. Which provoked them to put an end to it? That's the only meaningful explanation I can think of...
@@wampyrelli Bro if that true the writer of this game is a genius, the writer think cooking is just for women although it is basic skill everyone should have
@@wampyrelli wtf who cares
xDDDD So you basically had something that look like a half demon which start talk with her mother by saying "i'm nonbinary"? Damn, I miss I not talk with my players as NPC when I was a game master before.
And her mother sound very reasonable and ask good questions, propably something you should expect from well manered demon looking thing. But all fall the moment when she start to talk some crap, more I expected some "kill for Khorne and not talk some bullcrap".
this isn't dragon age, it identifies as dragon age ......
It's "drag on age" the pride guard
@@tonymacintosh3744 truth!
Without the Dragon Age in the name, it would be completely forgettable.
Haha the irony 😂
Brilliant comment.
Correction it's wearing the skin of Dragon Age.
Its unbelievably realistic how the non binary character gets angry at shit for no reason, lol
Signs of mental instability
@@Duuuuuuudeeee Says a lot doesn't it.
Bioware secretly Basedware?
@@Flesh_Wizard Not the game we wanted, but portrays people accurately?
Also the most annoying one, makes everything about themselves, and is basically the textbook definition of a Mary-Sue.
I feel bad for the mother, she was very reasonable
Yeah, the irrational anger is very realistic from my experience. I used to work with a non binary person, and she would get offended whenever someone referred to her as "she" or "her" even though biologically it was pretty obvious were female.
The mom was just trying to figure out what was going on. She asked some questions but she was yelled at for not immediately accepting what she didn't understand.
You can feel this is someone's trauma dump here. That person should go to therapy instead of exposing their mommy issues to the world.
I wished I had Tash mother, mine wasn't even close if we're talking about reasonable people, but I guess this self-inserted character was meant to be sth else, as we should be on her side in this rather than support her mother.
I think I see a pattern of which character is the most annoying in this game.
@@Mick2K yea I’m starting to piece it together too!
The asian elf is really bad too.
@@jackvancekirklandshe looks like she's about to report me to HR
Yeah all the so called Female characters and that other thing
@@SystemCrasher113 😂😂
"So... I'm nonbinary." 10/10 GOTY STUNNING AND BRAVE YAAAAS
@@Ruenvale 11/10
Time to find the IQ ive lost watching this video
YAAAS QUUUUEEEN
@@MrDakold queen is feminine you stupid, she literally said they're not that. Just say something humble like: "YAAAS THY MAJESTY"
you just KNOW that this is a self-insert.
Omg i cringed so hard i almost threw up
@@Unconcerned_Orange it’s gotta be!
Have a look at who directed. It most definitely is a self insert.
@@Alexdeadman00 What, she got an actual writer to write a self insert for her?
@@Alexdeadman00 Why are they non-binary then?
@@Alexdeadman00 The writer for this character is someone else, someone non-binary. So yes, its a self-insert.
I love when developers inject their mental illnesses and insecurities into a fantasy game. 10/10, greatest video game of all time.
@@JonDoe.. it makes for the best stories! lol
at least she got muscles. the best part of the male gender at least. cant wait to see her in last of us 3
i mean they
it's their fantasy
Insert Peter Griffin "who starts a conversation like that?"
@@iwantobeliev9633 hahahaha
You know something is terribly wrong when you totally agree with Peter without a second thought!
The funny thing is that such "dialogs" provoke even more hatred and harm rather than help.... Forcibly imposing something only breeds more resistance.
@@nagaimmortal5658 there’s a better way!
There's no option to sacrifice this character to a random cult?
Oh do I wish there was
@@demzus there’s no choice!
There are no choices in modern RPGs.
I saw someone post a vid showing that if you don’t have a strong enough bond with her and choose her to go defend something at one point she legit gets one tap dumpstered by some huge burly man in one of the climax battles.
That already happened.
Veilguard writers: "chat gpt, make me a diverse modern medieval story"
😂
@@BerryBabaBear lol
1:08 "Evataash, shokra toh ebra."
I choose believe this translates to "daughter, shut the fuck up."
Same 😂
It actually means "Through struggle, we find purpose." Sten explains that in some of his hidden dialogue in Origins.
So this interaction spits in the proverbial face of the interesting complexities of the Qunari because Weekes (the writer of Taash and the guy bastardized the Qunari in Inquisition), Busch (the trans queerosexual gendermancer that was put charge of Veilguard), and the voice actress of Taash (who not-so coincidentally identifies as non-binary) had to make this a vehicle for their collective trauma dump
It does sound like that. Lol
I was about to convince my wife to play this today because she spent 70$ on it, but holy shit, I think we will do a refund and do a 4th run of BG3 with her instead lol
Yes do please, veilguard is too bad
@ yeah! I figured the DEI stuff might be funny to watch, but this is downright insufferable
@@chriskoschik391 refund! Play origins!
To be clear, BG3 is also very much woke, but they are far less on the nose about it.
@@BloodDracolich Agreed. The fact that you can put a penis on your female character and a vagina on your male one and use they/them pronouns is 🤮. But at least it's just kept to that and they focus on story and character development first and foremost.
Never touching this shit. Youve played yourself for the last time bioware
@@makisky4495 I’m altering the deal!
@@joethealternativegamer3935 Pray I don't alter it further.
To think that Dragonage 2, as flawed as it is, represented the Qunari perfectly and had the best designs.
Now it’s just a frigate wide forehead with horns.
@@Dinosaurman34 yea that had issues but still a solid game!
Only DA game I ever played and I definitely think it's leagues above this.
Who approved this, thinking it will legitimately help them sell more games. This is ridiculous. Ruining games to pander to a fraction of the population. They deserve everything they get from this.
Also not only non binary, but also a sexual predator which seems to be totally fine in the game world
@@liveyourdreammedia captain DEI did it
@@joethealternativegamer3935 he clearly didn't learn from captain hindsight 😂
What's even more hilarious is that this fraction of people won't play this game
yeah, Trump & Musk will fix the issue very fast, I hope these companies dissappear
Qunaris...known for their kindness and tolerance lmao
@@missininaction3680 hahahaha oh that lore
''You smell good. Really good [GROWLS]'' HR HR EW WTF-
@@bimse420 I did the same thing to get my wife lol
So when Bull says the same thing in Inquisition it's fine but Taash saying it in this game it's suddenly not?
@ Execution and less annoying in inquisition
@@joethealternativegamer3935 No, you dislike it because the character saying it happens to be something you don't think should exist
@@TheMysteriouswatcher it’s about the execution!
Vegan mother with non-binary child, that why the father wasn’t around or they don’t know who is the father. Actually it’s pretty realistic.
Liberals pedos shouldnt have children blue hair demons i swear woman☕️
"I'm nonbinary."
"What does that mean?"
That she's not a computer? I honestly don't know either.
Does not compute 😂
“I’m anal log” 🪵 😂
@@liveyourdreammedia Yep,brain does not compute how it should lol
@@BigGator5 🤣🤣🤣
I'm actually glad you brought this up.
Because Binary as a word was created in the 1440s. Then gained new definitions over the years, like 1970s and 1990s. Just look at the year differences between the 1440s and 1970-1990s.
Dragon age was medieval. Words like binary probably never existed. But it rootly means 'Two of Two'
They could have just gone with the Qun word, as spoken in the initial outburst of none acceptance. Qunari have been drilled over this and it's been seen that Tal-Vashoth still show sone respect for their upbringing. Mind you Tal-Vashoth are Undesirables in the Qunari culture. It also guess to say while they do accept members of the Qun who identify as... different? They also barely tolerate them. The Qunari live for the collective- not the individual. Tash being who she is, it's whybthey hate other cultures.
The Qunari have also been shown to have the right responses through each game's crisis: The Blight in Origins. The Mage problem in DA2. The state of Thedas in Inquisition. Draconian. But they deal with the issue front and center.
What's weird in alll of this scene too is: remove the cosplay and the cosmetics, and this scene is 2024 in a kitchen.
Just looks so surrreal to see this in a fantasy game. The disposition, the 'dining room' it reeks of 21st centurism.
@@guangdali1762 not my kitchen lol
To be fair this is intentional. Minrathous, the Imperium, and many areas in Northern Thedas in lore are said to be more technologically advanced than southern Thedas (where we spend the majority of the previous three games).
But to see this game use terminology no different than modern slang to promote self-destructive behavior is pretty cringe.
More like a Disney movie.
At it's core, it's a vacuous & pretentious game with no soul. How anyone can get immersed in a empty calorie experience is completely beyond me. This is the poor foundation of most AAA games today, not just a waste of money, but of time itself, life is too short for this trite trash.
@@vinniecorleone62 I like how you put it “empty calorie”
Just because a game is progressive doesn't mean it's automatically good and we have to support it.
@@kclink1579 bingo!
Just because the game is progressive does mean it's automatically bad and we shouldn't support it. FIFY
This is progress? Turning mental issues into a personality trait?
@@lastnamefirstname850Dunno about that, though in this case, it's objectively bad for sure. Celeste was progressive too and it's a great game, though that game used it's progressive elements tactfully, and this one has the subtlety of a brick coming through your window.
This is not progressive, it's regressing into the stereotypical male/female roles as this non-binary/transgender ideology is based in gender stereotypes. "If I like both the color pink and blue I must be non-binary. If I 'm a boy and like pink, I must be a girl." Of course this is not just about color, but so much more, but I just tried to explain it as simple as I could.
the cringe is killing me.... it makes my skin crawl.
@@Alucard9692010 hahahahha
It's games like these why AAA gaming is screwed
"Non binary" should never be uttered in a fantasy rpg, even in real life it's forced and insane
Fantasy has always mirrored modern-day politics, but you have to do it in a way that feels natural to that universe. Characters can't just start saying modern terminology like "non-binary" or "queer". You can just make up new words and mean the exact same thing so it feels less jarring. It's like somebody in a fantasy setting "rizz" or "eco-friendly", it just sounds weird for them to be using such recent and modern language.
I never played DA games but I think someone said that fitting terminology already existed, if true it would be doubly awful if they just ignored that because they are completely unable to paraphrase modern issues into a fantasy setting
@@juice6521 Non-binary is just "I don't want to be associated with my gender because I'm not like the other girls/guys". Literally everyone is unique in their own ways. It's a label that applies to everyone who wants to be annoying enough to use it. Any new fantasy terminology for it would be equally annoying.
Good fantasy doesn't make itself dated with modern politics like this.
@@juice6521 A fictional fantasy universe usually set in medieval times specifically European setting, you think should use non-binary like buzz words?
@@acherontiaatropos6048 Do you genuinely think people won't be using the term non-binary in 20 years?
Is that thing even properly listening to their mother?
@@janeshepard9549 always listen to mama!
Why is the music at the dinner table sound like the end of the world 💀
Maybe ITS because the funeral song for BioWare? 🤔
Because someone was disagreeing with a rainbow hair.
@@nunuonroad9969 because her reality is unfolding
This seems to be the most disliked character in Veilguard. 😂
@@CozyCoffeeLofi yes! A self opening piñata too lol
Strangely enough, its not the non-buynary thing that bothers me the most. I do lack the context from the game as I haven't played it, and I am less likely to do so each day, but I need to talk about this. Taash's mother talks a lot about Qun like she still believes in it. But under the Qun, Qunari DO NOT KNOW THEIR PARENTS. The very concept of a family unit deos not exist under the Qun. So maybe her mother left the Qun when she was pregnant, but then why does she holds so close to the tenants of this religion if she so openly defied it. So by that logic both, Taash and the mother are Taal'vashoth, so I find it extremely hard to imagine Qunari peacefully interacting with someone like that. I know that Qunari have a peaceful settlement in Rivain, but they are known to not take kindly to Qunari violating their laws, let alone leave the Qun.
Quanri have always been to me the most interesting thing about the whole setting, so it bothers me like a pebble in my shoe.
The Qun also have their own in-universe terminology. One of Iron Bull’s squad was trans in DA: Inquisition and that was already a concept the lore recognized 10 years ago
Yeah, the Qun are raised by a class of people who exist just for that. They don't bare the children, but they raise them. That are also fine with trans. One of them was in Iron Bull's merc band. There was no need for the ret-con to focus on this. They already did that will the trans man in Inquisition. This is just confusing lore mangling.
@@manaofonyx7550 A writer a BioWare wanted to do a 100% contemporary storyline about a character being NB. But that’s going to completely pull people out of the universe regardless of their political opinions because now fantasy characters are talking like 2024 college kids. It’s totally possible to address LGBT subject matter in a fantasy setting while keeping the writing non-immersion breaking.
Game of Thrones can have gay characters like Loras and Laenor, but Martin doesn’t date the story by having characters get into contemporary sounding gay marriage debates.
@@TheJadedJames Well, that writer is a fool. A ret-con for your agenda doesn't sell product or keep you employed. I've seen perfectly good LGBT stories within Dragon Age already. This was unnecessary when they have shown that they CAN do it well. One of the reason I love Bioware games is that they had gay romances before anyone else and they didn't care who complained. I'm a lesbian and that meant a lot to me. It still only mattered if the games were fun and the stories fit. This seems so out of place.
@@manaofonyx7550 DAI was a retcon, the Qunari heavily disavow people who try to escape their fate and be something they are not. A qunari tr00n (which wouldn't exist since it's a modern invention 😂) would be in the same tier as a mage or anyone that goes agasint the Qun
Holy shit this feels like a parody. Is this real?
@@theintroverse1905 probably would have worked better that way
I remember how much Origins helped me with my English as a non-native.
Now, well... Now we have *THIS*. 21st century first world country teenage-sounding Qunaris.
@@ravíloB_o_É origins is king!
I think the mother is supposed to be that stern parent that doesn't show affection but turns out they deeply loved their kid all along, but instead I see a scene of a parent taking it calmly, asking them to explain and even trying to understand by drawing parallels to what they know (whatever the fuck an aqun-athlok is) and she lashed out like she was measuring her up against someone or finding her wanting. The child is the one, literally, telling their parent to do better, when they are the only one trying.
Man I hope the player has a choice of saying "What the fuck, Taash? What's wrong with you?" during the scene.
@@BM03 choice would be nice
you get 4 different ways of support taash
I believe aqun-athlok means to be born as one gender but lives as another which basically means Shathann thinks Taash is transgendered.
@@georgeray1906 So you mean she wasn't just trying, she was even close to the mark. Honestly I thought that to drive the point home of being "misunderstood" it would be something like "twisted soul" or "just confused" to make it look like the mother was old fashioned or lacking empathy.
Truly this character doesn't get better the more I find out. Amazing.
Idk if it's the VA or the direction of the voice for taash but man its just hard to listen to...the growling and the trying to sound masculine just comes off so....forced i guess and incredibly Unnatural.
@@cappn_ronaldo good word for it, unnatural
Origins Qunari: “my mental conditioning made me slaughter a family, it still haunts me”
Veilguard Qunari: “I am da dragon king”
its not a game anymore, its a propaganda
@@leschaussettesmasquees9959 yes!
@joethealternativegamer3935 its just sad that every games nowadays either do this sort of thing or they get bashed for being bigots, but at the end, it's the gamer that will choose 😎
I mean is it going to make you suddenly turn gay or non binary then?
The best propaganda would be in the shape of a game with excellent writing.
@@donglegs Yes, this game's writing lacks a lot, especially subtlety.
It’s hilarious how this scene is supposed to make you sympathetic to taash yet all it did was make me feel bad for her mom
This is one of those games that isn't even worth pirating
@@jakobsongam1 🤣🤣🤣
Why do they all sound like they live in LA?
@@aaronalbertson8670 that’s where dragon age takes place
@@joethealternativegamer3935in hell lol
The final boss of "you cringe, you lose" videos
@@YouTookMyAccountName 🤣
This dialogue in the first scene sounds like the writer had a lightbulb moment in the shower - probably triggered by something that happened in real life - but, of course, they missed their chance to deliver the perfect comeback. Now they're replaying it in their mind, imagining the flawless zinger they could have said.
@@jamesrusselleriii8284 I should have said that, oh I’ll put it in the game lol
My eyes and ears are bleeding
@@SzczwanyRys hahahah
enjoy this pride parade 😂
@@joethealternativegamer3935 You laugh at people suffering?! My God, how insensitive! /s
@@Sekir80 🤣
My face is tired...
I feel so sorry for the dragon age fans that they got this…I legit feel bad for them.
Thanks, that's me, I've been waiting for Dragon Age: Dreadwolf for years. Instead I got DEI: Wokeguard
If I ever play this... IF!... I'm not paying a single coin.
@@JunDageki yes they love ruining legacy IP
Dev team thought their lives are so tragically epic that everyone needs to experience it via self-inserts in this groomer propaganda disguised as a DA title. These ideological zealots are everywhere now!
@@MacClariggs well if this isn’t a success, maybe less of them
*SHE* is really lucky that Arishok died on Hawke's hands back in Kirkwall... Because, she will ended up like Ketojan if Arishok was alive
Yeah... but isn't arishok a title? Like it's 15 years or smth from da2 i'm pretty sure they promoted someone for this job
@@simartru clearly is not doing the job good enough
The Arishok literally did nothing wrong. We should have listened.
@@DeplorableSnowman He only did one thing wrong... Getting on the path of Hawke
Our Sten became Arishok after we killed Arishok. Wonder what he'd say about this.
It's even funnier when you turn on all the "trigger warnings" in the accessibility options
Get the fuck out, are you being serious or joking? I wouldn't be surprised now a days if you were serious.
@@-TriP- omg!
Everything about this feels like a chore.
@@urfinal9 yes!
Is there an option to fire Trash from the group, or not recruit her at all? It would save player 90% of all the cringe.
@@GrandeScorpio you want choices in your dragon age!?
Let the NonBUYnary begin!
@@stellviahohenheim yes lol
Is this game a comedy genre?
@@traistarudavid9273 probably would have worked better as satire lol
There's a video of the vegetables scene with a laugh track and Seinfeld music. It really works.
@@Sedinesthat track should have played through the entire game.
Are we sure Sweet baby Inc wasn't involved with this 🤣
@@WhereMerx no one with talent was
Weren't the Qunari like emotionless foreigners who followed some strict code of honor?
Not all of them follow the Qun, some were born outside of it, some are Tal-Vashot - defected from it.
Pause the video at 4:12 and tell me that mask doesn't look like something a kid drew on paper plate for Halloween. Least intimidating Dragon King ever.
In the near future, dialogue in movies and games will solely be people screeching and wailing about oppression.
@@seinfan9 oh what fun!
Iirc aqun-athlok isn't talking about "gender given at birth"
It's about someone who's role don't match their gender according to The Qun; i.e. female soldier.
Also iirc, (and need more context) Qunari don't know their birth parents, they are given to caretakers called Tamassran since birth
Maybe this Shathan is that instead of actual mother
Qunari culture doesn't acknowledge individuality, they don't have personal name, only their role/rank under the Qun
There is no way they would care what you identified as
Based on Qunari depiction in previous games, someone like Taash would either be 're-educated' or declared as Tal Vasoth and killed
I don't know what happened to Harding but she seems to lose a heavy dose of intelligence compared to Inquisition version
This happenes when woke people are writting script 😅
@@enigmalex3649 sadly!
I'd say that's what happens when idiots write the script =_=
"I'm nonbinary."
"What does that mean?"
"It means I have a few screws loose."
@@DfRaid I’m a dragon slayer!
Keep your privates private. Love who you need to love. A personal choice should not necessitate universal agreement.
This is just first world problems simulator sold as a fantasy game
@@SchaefferMarius kinda lol
The voice acting is by far the most shocking voice acting ive ever hear absolutely cringe and atrocious
@@tommills9575 yea many of the characters feel off!
@@tommills9575 yes!
Interesting you say this, because I felt the voice was having it's time when displaying her anger. Guess she's giving it from experience. :D
"what does that even mean"
"well idk, a couple of nerds in another universe gonna invent this thing called BASIC...."
@@Shetyre hahahahah
I've written fan-fiction with better dialogue than this triple A "game" (really, it SHOULD be called a "chore" because it's a SLOG to get through) - and let me tell you, I am, by no means, the best fan-fiction writer out there. Seeing worse writing coming from a studio with (a) "professional" writer/s makes me feel a LOT better about my own writing.
One time in a bar I tried to tell a woman she smelled good while making Klingon noises. It didn't end well.
@@Meitti I got my wife that way
0:35 That's called a hermaphrodite.
Thank you sincerely for putting this compilation together! Anyone needing an Immersion Breaking Dialogue 101 lesson could cringe to this collection of...questionable...direction in narration.
@@alocervancouver thank you for watching! I have 2 more too lol
"Here vegetables" wow nice rappresentation,they say vegetables cause THEY are not meat and no fish,great
This sounds like a dialogue between me and my mom when I thought I was better than anyone else
@@kvu236 bingo
Shocked the qunari would allow it lol
@@MistaWikked right lol
I'm pulling a barf 🙄
@@BouncingTribbles hahaha
this feels like an AI wrote this
Probably is
AI can write better than this.
And voiced it.
@@kip4993 don’t insult skynet lol
Wait a minute! They are not all vegans?! How dare they 🤡
@@DerdOn0ner more meat!
What an insufferable git of a character.
Also, that first scene with Taash and Harding is incomprehensible, man. People don't answer each other's questions! They just move on to the next topic or repeat information. It's like taking crazy pills.
@@xleaselife “great writing”
I breath fire with my non binary body, with my freakin non binary body!
When human quality drops at critical low level, this is the result.
@@tineristineris1860 it has been a decline
I am saving my money for Stellar Blade instead
@@JoeyJ0J0 I wanna play that too!
OMG this is sad. Should be called "Dragon Age: Sanitarium"
We owe Saints Row and Concord an apology
Since when did the Qunari have a mother?
The location and the writing, it’s like the person coming out during family’s dinner
@@TheAhmedmajeed bingo!
So, im Captain of the enterprise...so, im now youre going to call me admiral.
You realize this person would probably think im stupid? Or would probably start calling me admiral. I dont know which one is worse
@@edalrivers1998 lol!
I physically can’t throw up in my mouth but IM ABOUT TO TRY!
@@alvindevasconcelos8555 hahahaha
The best description is that all thr characters are written like California cosplayers. Nobody in yhr writing room took the setting serious
@@SaltyChickenDip looks like it!
Taash had beaten sera for the most hated character in one swoop...
The *moment* I saw Taash I knew she'd be the most insufferable of all. 😑
Can we recruit her mom instead? The hilariously deadpan anti-woke version, of course.
@@opo3628 yea I want mom!
what kind of brain rot makes you think of these lines? lol
@@brosseki I don’t know but I’d like to find out lol
It's kind of funny how the writer obviously trauma dump on the players, but everyone seems to think taash is in the wrong and the mother was reasonable.
@@flampagan1994 big time
I'm cringing so hard i honestly can't finish the video. This is painful to watch 😭
@@LadyIno I made two more lol
Evil cannot create, only corrupt
@@oscar57722 true!
This is BioWare's "Return to form."
@@_Just_John apparently
EA-BioWare lost me with Anthem, this just proves I made the right choice.
@@no1bandfan I even had fun with anthem!
Who remembers the 'Shut Up Kai-Leng' mod for ME3? They need one for this thing.
I miss da2 qunari...
@@wsrtwetr I actually liked that game!
*sits down awkwardly*
"I'm non-binary"
Yes because there's no way you could've SHOWN US THIS ffs
Nobody hates the triple fantasy of non-binary, maybe some, but what sucks is why all the writers that want push it on every piece of content they can, suck so much at writing compelling narratives or dialogues and sht great pieces of IP
@@juanmd26121 we just want good stuff
People usually exaggerate when they say this but I literally felt like vomiting sitting through these 8 minutes of pure cringe, this shit is an actual disease.
@@zokyspqt lol
Dragon King: "You think you've had it hard, that you've suffered... well, think again 4:54. That's how real trauma fells"
This is not normal or even necessary.....?
@@SystemCrasher113 correct!
Nothing says badass dragonslayer like having childish arguments with your parents.
@@thefamilyguy5693 🤣🤣
this is how 12 year olds act
@@nothingman759 don’t insult teenagers lol
So ... its all daddy/mommy issues?
@@NaturallySelected isn’t it always lol