Guy Gets Caught Working 2 Remote Jobs (Here's What Happened)
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- Guy Gets Caught Working 2 Remote Jobs (Here's What Happened)
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As long as the job gets done. Who cares.
Exactly
What a crock of $shit!
Yuppp why do companies take issues with this if they’re still profiting off these peoples skillset
@@GenK1991 Because hired you as a FTE and part owner (stock options) and not as a contractor who does as told.
@@bigmoose143 If he can get his job done in less than 40 hours a week they should have hired him as part time thats the company's fault not his
If he’s able to do both jobs adequately, I don’t see a problem here.
@@mrwilliams1 I agree. I was once offered a fulltime remote job, but I couldn't have any side jobs. I wasn't going to give up the three part-time jobs I had, so I turned it down.
😂😂😂😂dumb
@@jimroscoviusgood
The only problem is his initial paranoia, I have never heard a Lawyer, Plumber, Electrician, Realtor and Attorneys being tied to one client. When I go to buy house should I require my realtor to only work with me?
He needs to renegotiate his terms if he wants something different. BUT with his arrangement with 2 jobs as mentioned in the video, its steady work.
I think this is way different though. When your doing those contract jobs your arrangement is as a contractor. When your full time employee your arrangement is that you will give that employer 8 hrs a day. Doing 2 gigs during these hours is dishonest.
Not tied to one client but still tied to one employee such as the law firm or company your trade is in. There’s a difference in being a W-2 v a 1099. As an attorney you can’t have a conflict and represent so and so client but you also couldn’t be an employee of both firms which would be a conflict. Vastly different stuff. The realtor can have tons of clients but they can’t work for multiple agencies at once I don’t imagine (ReMax v Coldwell Banker). But if it was remote contract work for design I wouldn’t have much issue. But the paranoia to not disclose kinda feels like he thought it wasn’t right but to each their own really.
Working 2 full time jobs at separate times, people like because you’re considered suffering and struggling daily. Find an easier way to do things (work 2 home jobs at the same time) people consider it unethical and shady. Once people find out, the haters come out with the crab mentality and start telling. Some companies get over on people all the time.
Both employers may benefit from this arrangement because his wages don't need to be raised to keep him on staff. As long as the companies are not competing with each other, it is a long term win for both companies. They decrease labor cost by sharing this skilled employee. It is actually a loss in the long run for the employee because he must exchange more of his finite resource (time) for less money per hour than he could get working one job.
His Boss knew he actually had a worker...not a fake worker.
I’m that fake worker 😅
It all depends on the companies you're working for. I used to work in a highly regulated (banking) company that required us to disclose all outside income/business activities due to conflicts of interest. They had to know who we were working with outside the company to protect themselves. Many companies have non-compete agreements in place, so you have to be careful that you're not working for a competitor at the same time, in which case you'd be in breach of contract and possibly lose both jobs. Some companies though, particularly tech companies, allow and almost expect employees to have other avenues of income. As long as it's not a breach of your employment contract, and getting your work done, there's really no reason not to.
You can get away with a lot if you do great work and you're always a pleasure to deal with :)
Thanks for the shoutout. Not sure how I missed this when it was posted but I love your take, Ken Coleman. Plus you've got one of those good "first name, last name combos." Ken Coleman. It just sounds good. Alright, have a good one :)
I work 2 jobs but I work my second job once I clock out of my first job.
It is too expensive to just have one full time job, especially with no overtime. Rent, gas, food, electricity, and water are all up. You have to survive. Your boss will fire you the second you look a him/her wrong. Protect yourself with multiple forms of income because your boss doesn’t care if you die in a ditch.
Exactly. If you can’t guarantee I will have my job tomorrow, I can’t guarantee loyalty to the company. Everyone is replaceable so until then, I come first and will do any and everything to make sure my finances are in order.
companies typically don't really care about you. I think this dude is smart and most people work in a " right to work state" this isn't cheating this isn't illegal. just make sure it doesn't affect your nda if you have one and if you don't well then who cares.. dude is smart.
I'm overemployed with 4 companies & none of them will find out as they are all from different countries.
Great video Ken.
Know a guy who did this whilst employed w/ the state. He couldn't sustain the load ~began to screw up & have his mistakes spill over onto coworkers, sparking resentment. When he was found out~he was canned the same day.
Hope he has a good J2/J3
I consider a full time job to be 8 hours, so to work two full time jobs means 80 hours a week. If you say 6 hours a day, that's still 12x5 which is 60 hours a week. So you're working evenings and weekends to get your 60-80 hours per week in to satisfy the your obligations to two companies.
If you're young, have few life obligations (no wife or kids) and can pull that off consistently, that's great. Personally, I prefer one full time job and a few good clients that I'm not required to book that many hours a week for.
One of the challenges in the fast food industry is scheduling. Managers will deliberately give people unpredictable schedules so they can't take on additional work for other companies.
We shouldn't just be kind to people who are highly skilled. because they have leverage. The Bible is very clear about how employers are to treat employees and it looks nothing like modern capitalism. If you can't pay your workers properly, you owe them a schedule they can fit other employers into.
But you don't have to work 8 hours for many remote jobs. I had a fulltime remote job that didn't require 8 hours of my time every day.
Is there any chance a lifelong bartender can land one of these remote jobs or is this solely for the tech crowd?
@@chrispomaski the less traffic, the better for those who must go into work. No commute means more money for things like drinking
@@bkucenski sure fantastic. I'm asking if there's any remote job to enter into if all I have on my resume is bartending. I don't think I meant to reply to your comment originally haha, my bad.
Was his productivity suffering in either position? Was he meeting performance expectations? Working from home is a new frontier, why can’t we work for two businesses if they aren’t competitors and we are getting it done?
Reminds of a story where a guy in Spain was awarded best employee but he wasn't actually showing up for work instead the guy used his working hours to study a philosophy degree.
How is that an unbelievable reaction? It's common sense. 50% of Americans work two jobs.
Good for him, technology isn't there yet for me to work from home
Ken doll does this apply to your favorite congressmen and senators?
Yeah they technically have tons of different employers since both sides are accepting billions of lobbying dollars(bribes) from corporations each year. They work for whoever is paying them(not the peasants)
I can barely handle one full time. But I don't work from home.
I see 0 problem with this. I have worked more than 1 job at a time before. Sometimes they overlapped. If you are doing a good job wth is the problem,?
Moving meetings to fit his 'other' schedule??? Amazing!!! I witnessed a situation at a large corporate job I had where a guy was hired who lived in Colorado and he took the job that was in California. He had a cubicle in Office A. I worked in Office B (200 miles away from Office A). So I would talk to this guy thinking he was in his cubicle in Office A. Occasionally, I would have to travel to Office A and I would always stop by this guy's cubicle to say hello in person. He was never there. About 6 months later, I heard that the guy was fired because he never moved from Colorado to California. He was working remotely from Colorado and had no intention of moving to California. It was the strangest thing I had ever seen personnel-wise. I was surprised he was able to hide it for so long. If I had been in charge, I would have fired him too. Honesty and integrity are important and I wouldn't want an employee that was living a lie. You just can't trust them. But the guy in the video didn't lie so much as he was checking out his options and it accidently worked out for him. Everyone knew about his situation and were willing to work it out. More power to him.
This happened to me- 12 years ago!! I was a struggling single mom- did both jobs excellent and messed up on a call being overheard selling - thought I was on speaker and I got caught. They fired me immediately and I kept the other job because they didn’t care - it was mostly commission…don’t regret it and id do it again…I don’t think it’s anyones business if you have two/ three jobs and are doing it just fine! Makes zero sense - many fireman have businesses- many people work retail part time jobs and evening jobs…it’s wrong to limit what a person can do- especially a woman where we don’t get paid as much as the men- or didn’t years ago
Interesting video in Ken’s absolutely right this is the exception not the rule. Careful out there lol
What's interesting about this video is how Ken doesn't call out CEOs that are working other jobs and positions, such as board of director seats and key stake holders in other companies.
Could not find this vid on Rumble. Will try again.
If you want to work multiple professional jobs, just be honest and upfront and start an agency. You won’t have to worry about being sneaky, and you’ll end up being able to charge MORE. I don’t understand the sneaking around part
Interesting ☺️
Since when is working 2 jobs a problem, I've worked 2 jobs in the past multiple times in my life maybe it's different for remote work but I dunno I don't see a problem with 2 jobs as long as you can hold down 2 jobs effectively.
People in the comments don’t seem to understand that some jobs are not time based so much as they are value based. No, you can’t work at two call centre jobs at the same time because you can’t be on two calls at once, but if You’re smart, efficient, likeable, working in a more intellectual field such as web design, graphic design, coding etc, and willing to work long hours there’s no reason this wouldn’t work out great actually even for the employers, so long as it’s non competing.
LOL the comments are not with you, Ken.
The workload for the first company, must have been low to average.
It’s amazing what employers will do for people if they are high quality workers and likable that you’d never expect
Great to hear!!! I was deciding to do the same !!! Now I know I’m going to do the same thing !! Thanks Ramsey team!!!!
Terrible idea. This is interesting only because it’s so unlikely to happen. Mostly it’s considered stealing to sell the same (a specific hour of work) thing to two people.
@@tms3802 It's not "stealing". in actuality, you're selling your skills and production. not specific hours.
If I'm expected to work for 8 hours a day and get all of my work and responsibilities done in 2 hours consistently every day, what am I going to do for the remaining 6 hours? Someone else's work for no additional benefit? Hell nah. I'll hop over somewhere else to get paid to do extra work.
If you do your jb correctly, and do it on time and correctly, it should not matter if he works 2 at the same time.
Almost as concerning as the incorrect apostrophe in the title.
This is the luckest guy alive.
Having 2 jobs and getting fired from one isn't as risky as having 1 job. Now, go find another job just like you would've done anyway.
All this says is you can lie to employers they don't check references and they don't go over resumes. You can tell them what they want to hear. As long as the job gets done. I'm taking that 3rd full time job and telling my normal 4am-5pm to kick rocks.
if I finish all of my work in less than 20 hours, how about you DOUBLE my workload and DOUBLE my salary?!?! no? I guess that's not fair to others? i guess that's stealing too? Obviously, if you are going to work 2 jobs at once you need to be able to stay on top of things... which some people absolutely can.
I do four jobs at once. I use mouse movers.
THAT same guy called dave and laughed off his advice.
my only problem with this is was he physically trying to do both jobs and during the same time frame of the day because if he was that's wrong but if this guy is working 1314 hour days doing both jobs how is that any different than a regular person working two regular jobs if that's what he was doing there's definitely no problem with this
Doesn’t Dave support working multiple jobs?
I would fire the shit out of someone who had another full time job without notice.
What’s your company?
@@3drumming7 Yourmom Incorporated.
“Nothing wrong here” WTF?
It's tax evasion. There are different rules for different types of jobs.
But you work a job on thr weekends and they don't care
Wait Ken, you just said there’s nothing wrong with working 2 full-time remote jobs simultaneously and it’s not cheating. However, you’ll sit right next to Dave and watch him look at the camera saying how overemployment is “cheating” and “lying”. You really need to get a backbone and call Dave out because you clearly have a different opinion than him on this subject.
Only 2? Try 3...
It should be "gets" not "get's" for proper grammar.
That was kinda dumb on his part because he already knew all these people knew each other
The deceptive behavior is the only thing wrong here. I think this would have been the outcome for him if he came to his boss when he got hired and told him that this was what he wanted to do. If you are exceptional and exceptionally hard to replace most of the time you will be offered a better deal to stay exclusive or allowed to work at the other job. The big issue is if non-disclosure are involved, you don't inform everyone and something happens, you could really screw yourself and your reputation.
If it's not illegal, (working 2 jobs, even at the same time is not illegal) then you shouldn't feel like you need to hide it.
Why should you feel like you need to hide it if it's not illegal?
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 I don't know, but that's what are a lot of hard working people pulling 2 jobs are doing because of the perceived notion of "stealing time". If you are paid to complete projects, even on salary then it shouldn't matter if there are no other issues (like trade secrets and stuff). It's exactly like taking on a lot of freelance work, which is something else you tell your employer about.
@@SpoonHurler You're the one who said it, and you don't know?
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 LOL... I meant you "shouldn't"... in my defense I was writing without having my coffee yet
I have a friend that noticed an employees screen open in the office when he popped out to make a call and they had left an invoice open for freelance work. Itemising the same hours he was in their office as billable hours for a client.
A bunch of us business owners were out and he was telling this story asking for advice, because seeing the screen would be considered spying and against their company culture.
In an unbelievable scenario of chance, another business owner said we hired “John” who used to work for you. He’s working remote and honestly I’ve no idea what he does, because he always has an excuse why he doesn’t make targets.
Turns out it was the same guy and he was triple jobbing and getting nothing done for anyone. But everyone was desperate for staff so firing specialists seemed like a bad idea.
In a small specialist area, the guys reputation is destroyed now and no one will hire him. In the three months he had been getting 2.5 pay checks he had bought expensive cars on finance. Apparently free lancing does pay so well when you don’t have a company paying for expensive software and computers.
The worst part was they found out he actually delegated some research work to another colleague, that was for the other company the guy wasn’t working at and he didn’t know.
He got fired but no legal repercussions. Both companies tightened their policies of “trust” so all other employees were slightly worse off.
In my opinion if you need to hide income from your boss made during work hours it’s stealing. I believe his reputation will follow him until he leaves the area. So over a few years he’d have been better off financially having being honest.
The quick tone of his tick tock voice put me off this video . Got just under half way though and couldn’t handle anymore of the crap
7:34 how condescending.
I think it's ok to work a part time job on top of your full time as long as you perform well. Two full time jobs is a stretch
So that applies to all those board of directors of Fortune 500 companies that have full time board membership and benefits of multiple companies? Or Your Congressmen who have full time jobs, businesses and get full time pay and tax payer benefits…
@@dipsuny I was beginning to miss your idiotic comments.
It’s no ines business. In this economy it’s important to have multiple streams of income. An employer should never tell you you can’t work another job.
If this doesn't illustrate how horrid a place Ramsey must be to work, I don't know what would....
It's consistently winning Best Place to Work awards, so it can't be that bad.
Either the responsibility of these jobs is incredibly low or the pay is too high. Impossible to do two, true, full time jobs. Another example of remote work being full of fluff time.
Alright so some places may be ok wit you working two jobs however!!! If you are working for two competitors doing the same exact thing, in my world. (Engineering) that is called moonlighting. It is a firable offense and you will get your license revoked.
In the 1990's we had what was called "non-competes" for this very reason, to protect employers.......
With so little employee protections out there employers don’t need more protections.
@@Bigbilly-ms9bn Yeah, I hear ya. It has changed from being "employer-centric" to 'employee-centric".