Hell yeh. Loved OG Doomfist, started ontricking it with before the change stacking about 3k~ hours in it. DF Is literally a buglord and the last thing you will see WHEN it works as you predict it.
@@jerbsherb4391 Mercy's techs were bugs that were then turned into 'intended' features, which is why the new superjump system exists. They must've liked the idea and saw how it made mercy's gameplay more interesting while still fair and just popped it in.
@@jerbsherb4391super jump used to be a physics bug. Now in ow2 there's a new bug where her ga will cancel+CD refunds if u ga to someone about to los you. So you get jerky glitched-looking movement and make them think ur ga is on cooldown. This bug has killed me a couple times but u can also do it do manipulate ur hitbox or bait them to go on u when they think u can't fly.
My favorite thing is flats explaining something very real with genuine concern and everybody calls him crazy. Then it happens and they all go “what, who could have predicted this outcome?!”
A bit offtopic but I hate how the go to method of nerfing problematic abilities has become to just increase their cooldowns. Yes Suzu, sleep, lamp or anti are all anoying to play against but Im playing Overwatch because it has cool abilities. I dont want to only be able to use an ability every 15, 20 or even 30 seconds. If an ability is so broken that your only way to fix it is to rarely let people use it, the ability is flawed on a fundamental level and needs to be completely reworked. Enough with these unfun bandaid cooldown nerfs.
ngl I think it would be fun to try an experiment where Bap's window is his cooldown (with nerfed multiplier and size, of course) and lamp is the ult (maybe with buffed HP and radius). Bring back the defensive support ults!
@@bohdanpyzh2712 Gonne be honest, we don't need another damage boost. Imagine Bap zen(if window was on cooldown). there wouldn't be enough money in the world to make me play tank against that. Call me bad or whatever idc, the game is supposed to be fun and playing tank in zen orb is already bad enough. Its a lot better since the dicsord got a cooldown but still.
@@sinistertoady6712what if it was a reverse window, then 🤔like, reducing the damage and healing of enemy shots that go through. could be an interesting defensive option, and maybe partially offensive if you throw it behind the enemy tank to reduce the healing
@@bohdanpyzh2712Funny how you subconsciously added the “…throw it behind the enemy tank.” Tanks are just everyone’s -priority- punching bag now, it’s sad balance-wise.
5:00 Doom main since overwatch 1, and hearing chipsa asking for Widow nerfs while hearing Kenzo beg for widow buffs reminds me that niche communities shouldn't be listened to at times when it comes to balance.
I'm pretty sure you can't exactly train to get that pin on Rein consistently due to the fact that you would have to start charging just slightly before Orisa does Ult. I might be wrong, but to me it seems like frame window is shorter than Rein's wind up time on charge
8:25 @Flats Cause he plays doom... the entirety of that character's history can be summed up in how can I break the map geometry/new character mechanics to do things the devs didn't anticipate.
I did the rein pin on orisa ult at the start of OW2, it IS very rare. But I was a rein main and played him almost exclusively, so I did see it a couple of times.
I was playing mercy and my Mauga died in his ult but he was close to the walls, so I stood there and rezzed him while the enemy team desperately tried to break the barrier to get to me, unrelated to the video just wanted to share
It is odd that it persists even after his death, and that if anyone walks into the tiniest pixel of the wall after deployment they get chained after the fact too~
I am just picturing people trying that in their games (provided it even still works), and killing themselves or landing in the middle of the enemy team and getting instagibbed~
Made the worst play of my life yesterday on Echo: I flew up really high, copied the ana, threw nade and genji deflected my nade into my entire team and then I missed sleep dart, ult ended and then I got pulse bombed.
I mean if you wanna go crazy you can do a donation to the winner, i forget who does it for apex but whenever they review these kinds of things they donates the winner on their twitch or something, usually $50
I dont know if its still a thing,but i lost my shatter once to cas hinder. Right when my ult reached 100%,i died by the explosion and it just set me to 0 ult charge. rein sure got some interesting 'techs'
Still wondering why there are tank busters in a game with one tank. Maybe if all tanks got changed accordingly with the swap to 2 but they have yet to be adjusted and the dev team have yet to make any meaningful changes that genuinely help the game. Buffing bastion to high heavens was so cool really fun for everyone. I’m giving them a season after kotick leaves and if the game doesn’t at the bare minimum show promise for a good future I’ll just go find another slightly less sucky esport title to sweat on. I keep getting told kotick is the source of every problem they have. Is it realistic to think a game will do a complete 180 after one thing changes? Probably not. Have the ow devs had way more chances than they deserved? Absolutely
Tanks are strong but so is everything else. Having a role with 2 spots be able to shut down a role with 1 is insane. Tank busters were healthy for 2 tanks not one. And maybe if supports didn’t heal so much especially with not needing to since we’re missing another tank there wouldn’t be near as much of a problem with unkillable tanks. The numbers in the game just keep going up and they keep adding more heroes to complicate it even more. At this rate the game will never be balanced.
@@braydenk2361 If the role with 2 spots can't shut down the role with 1, the role with 2 spots is effectively useless, since tanks can definitely kill dps just fine. There is a very simple solution to supports doing healing: kill them first. Your team also has access to exactly the same things they do.
The getquaked on magi one I’ve seen the well with a mei wall so they put the Mei wall under magi and the. He ultra on top of mei wall then he’s able to walk out of it while it’s still active then Mei wall goes away ult goes into well and then you see magi flying into well XD
I swear there is a bug with Ana sleep dart and Orisa cause im sure I slept an ulting Orisa and went wait what? Havent been able to replicate it but still it were one moment I didnt understand what happend.
Nah the Doomfist nerfs made no sense even by that logic, why is sombra, dva and Winston getting buffed then and why isn't tracer getting nerfed unless doom is better than all those characters (he isn't)
@@SpiritedFalcon so Doomfist is better than Tracer and DVA and Sombra? Oh yes and Genji is too that's why he didn't get buffed right, and now they're all on the same power level of course.
The Doomfist healing-buff is kinda weird, they should have just give him max-barrier the second he goes into his ult and it only starts to decay after his ult is finished...
@@minimalgrammar1276 overhealth is literally just health, and does not reduce damage at all, overhealth makes it harder for cass to deadeye is because despite what people believe, deadeye does X amount of damage based on how long you locked onto someone, so if someone has more health than usual the cass will release deadeye at the time they usually do for that hero despite the hero having more health than expected and thus it not being enough
doom got a heal buff to his ult for one reason and one reason only: the ult was never ever used the way it was intended because doom never head enough health to use it by the time they got ult, the heal buff ensures they have no reason not to use it correctly
@@XiaoYueMao It not even a buff.... the healing is useless the use for the ult is still the same just instead of landing near a health pack you still land outside of the fight but slightly closer (case by case basis) if you use the ult offensively your going to instantly explode in like diamond+ games. His ult was use defensively because it allowed you to commit your punch and slam to get a pick and not be forced to save one to escape or rely on the enemy missing cc during your slow crawl as you block waiting for your cooldowns to come back up.
@@XiaoYueMao Bro that's not... Yes, obviously overhealth doesn't provide DR. The point was that overhealth is more valuable than healing generally speaking. (Or at least in the context of Doom using his ult.) Please don't mansplain how Deadeye works, I literally main Cass. Sorry if I sound irritated but you shouldn't just automatically treat people like they don't know what they're talking about. Releasing deadeye at the same time you normally would wouldn't get you a kill. The difference between an instant kill and a heavy blow is significant in a lot of situations.
@@XiaoYueMaonanod ana can 2 tap body shot. It would make your real ana hard to kill for a long time. The only reason you don't see this is because ana copy rarely lives long enough to farm nano, and when it does she usually just throws it on anybody cuz copy is about to run out (and fight is prob already won anyways). They made it so ana can't nano herself cuz it'd be so op and she'd save it for herself always.
@@sawah765 two anas can just both shoot someone and "two tap" someone anyway, in fact two anas shooting the same target does more dmg than 1 nano ana since nano does 50% not 100% extra dmg. i dont think a nano ana is as useful as nanoing someone else, such as an ulting soldier.
Can also just nano your main ana to quickly farm nano for your main ana then she can nano someone else too. Because believe it or not, Echo ult into Ana nade + Ana ult into Ana + Nade does a fuck ton and farms ult quick and is a whole lot of no healing for enemy.
Kinda off topic but I had an echo in my game when I was going against an Orisa as Ram, the echo copied Orisa and we just walked at them and got one of the fastest team wipes I’ve ever gotten(also sorry for all the comments, I shoulda just edited and added the first one now that I think of it, much love flats)
Ya I don’t know about the second dude opinion on doom I feel like everyone is getting gaslight thinking doom is good not knowing you can do 3x better with any tank
This is always why I don't trust someone take on doomfist unless they actually use DOOMFIST. you can't say they technically buff doomfis by nerfing all the characters that counters him when they quit literally buff and introduce more characters that counters him. I always say it like this, oh you think he good k... Try getting him to gm see what happens. Oh he is so broken bet, play rank with him then, See what happens. Plus only reason why people use doomfist in tournaments is because monkey into bastions literally sucks. Instantly switch to doomfist cause he the only dive tank that can handle that. Doomfist does suck, it just that monkey and recking baller suck more smh
Literally, it's always the people that don't play Doom or understand him at all that say the most, and they think it's the truth because the top 0.1 of Doom players make him work. They'll never actually try to learn or play the character because they know what will happen. It's like saying ball is really strong because Chazm makes him work. They don't realize the absurd knowledge and perfection they need to have on that character to get the smallest value out of them in high ranks and even against counters. They see a good Doom do something amazing and say "this is why Doom is strong" and not even try to understand what the Doom actually did, they only care about the result
@@judebrown3588 Exactly and him calling them out for saying that they're character is bad is so ridiculous. Like you think if a 7 + year doom special says they're character is still shit, for all of overwatch 2 you think something should ring but it not just him , 90% of doom players says so. I get why people hate doom because he a stun spam character the things is most of us doom player don't even fucking what the stun, like it not even our choice. We stuck with it and force to play with such toxicity. Most of us just want damage you can take the stun idgaf about it, tbh I don't think a single soul wanted doomfist to be on tank . But we surfer because of it, and we are hated because we have it smh
I’ve said it time and time again that the entire OW community is completely out of touch with Doomfist as know absolutely nothing about the character. It’s insane, I’ve never seen this happen with any other hero. But it’s with Doomfist specifically. But of course we’re Doomfist main’s so our opinions are completely invalidated and we get lectured by these people who don’t even play the character.
@@kyubbikcat2281 I don't know why that is the case but it definitely is, like we have all these top 500 players who think doom is broken but it always the same thing, when they play him the instantly get smoke and they stop trying to play him. This includes flats too, always at the end there like it he still good he just too hard and I just suck at him. Like hmmmmm, wonder why. It is always that always , I don't get it. If dafran had trouble with the characters you think that should ring some bells , if some of the best players can't play doomfist then wtf y'all keep thinking he still broke. The dude literally can play the most mechanical character possible surely he can play doom but no.
@@typedark2661 Exactly, they don't realize the ridiculous hours we put on Doom for years, the custom game modes, experimenting, testing, map knowledge, character knowledge, bug knowledge etc. Flats will swear Doom is really good but complain that he has to play Orisa and Zarya or he'll lose, but tell other people that Doom is really good this season. He literally tried to play Doom when he got giga buffed in S2 but was still terrible and gave up, he'll only play Doom in QP but will speak as if he has in depth knowledge of Doom. It's funny he'll complain that Rein is bad but if we say Doom is bad we don't know what we're talking about and Doom is insane because he saw ZBRA get rank 1 when literally nobody else can play like him unless they no life the character. We want movement, more power into slam and interesting tech, but all we get is shitty power block and punch changes every patch, just so we can hear flats say Doom players are eating good this season, we literally aren't because none of us want that shit. He literally said the ultimate change was a buff but every Doom main instantly knew it was a nerf because we ACTUALLY understand the character
Any time I see people talk about doom and they think his ult healing him matters at all is crazy. The reason dooms used his ult to run away was because it let you use your entire kit for offense instead of running away. It legit baits people into thinking they can use his ult offensively and then instantly die the second they land. I feel like gallus is hard baiting more then normal calling out quake and zbra because they are both the type of people to shit talk him and give him more views.
Doom main here, I would just like to apologise for my bronze brethren who's 2 braincells are fighting for 3rd place. Doom is consistently good, every season, just need to adjust your playstyle 2 fit the meta. His only flaw is his ult - moist pool noodle stri... I mean meteor strike. Also as an echo enjoyer the best strat is to just copy any support with your ult
What? Moira ISNT considered a counter to Rein? I have NEVER lost a duel against a Rein on Moira, what are yall on about? The Reins cannot do jack shit to me! Im so confused on what countering means now..
That second guy needs to be protected at all costs. The Doomfist Yakuza is gonna come after him, but he's got more braincells than the entire Ana Mafia combined.
@@Asynurr Doom isn't good for people who are bad at him. Could he use buffs? Sure, absolutely. I think making him more akin to his OW2 PvP Beta version would be great. Does he need to be gigabuffed to the point that he's no longer a high-skill hero? No, not really.
@@mythmage8231that has never happened. Doom was in his most balanced state in season 1 and blizzard just keeps nerfing him because they just spoon-feed support players every patch
@mythmage8231 look i placed top 500 with him the past few season, he isn't good, i can swap to hog and get 3x the value as i can with doom, i know all his techs and bug, i got my degree in doomology lol, i have 2500+ hours on the hero between ow1 and ow2, with that being said you have to play a perfect game otherwise you lose, no tank gets punished as hard, as of right now doom is by far the highest skill ceiling hero (i main tracer on dps and she is definitely 2nd, but doom is way more difficult imo) his rocket punch should take longer to charge in exchange for more damage, and his primary is very bugged, he has 4 primary fire bugs, which makes it very inconsistent, if they just patched his bugs i would be happy, but the only ones they patch are the ones that effect other heros...i die to doom bugs morr than anything...again he is doomfist not doomprimary
Man it sucks that its getting harder to enjoy ow2 itself these days. I love the community and i see the potential the game has, but its getting less and less fun to play the game for me. Today for instance I decided to hop back in for the 1st time in about a month. I load up a quickplay game and instantly get a nasty audio bug where the sound cuts out every 10 of so seconds and when it comes back in its ear deafening. I leave the game and load into the practice range to see if it'll happen again and it seemed fine. I did get a weird texture glitch near the stairs to the right of spawn where it was justa bunch of red lines popping out of the geometry. Of course i cant go back into the actual game cus i had a 15 minute ban for leaving cus of the audio bug. Thats ridiculous. My first game in a month and i get a 15 min ban for leaving once. Decided why bother cus i can hate myself just as much by loading up rocket league or R6S. Its just ridiculous
I’m not gonna lie, as a doom player, I think people don’t talk about how strong doom actually is. He can stun every 4 seconds. I don’t care that is strong. Before this latest patch doom ult was easy to build and even with this patch its every other fight. Seismic slam is constant pressure and escape. Power block is the biggest skill check in OW. Empowered punch is op. I don’t even think dooms skill floor is that high. Once you learn not to play him like Winston you’ll do good. I think dooms in for a rework as most of the cast is.
The game is NOT 💀 fun whenever Doom is really strong. It just simply isn’t. He’s in a fine spot right now & good players will still get value out of him.
"Thats not a tech thats a bug"
Doomfist and Mercy players:
"Whats the difference?"
Hell yeh. Loved OG Doomfist, started ontricking it with before the change stacking about 3k~ hours in it. DF Is literally a buglord and the last thing you will see WHEN it works as you predict it.
what fucking bug does mercy have?
Mercy gets her techs made official and doom gets his removed :( blizz please bring back bhop slam im begging
@@jerbsherb4391 Mercy's techs were bugs that were then turned into 'intended' features, which is why the new superjump system exists. They must've liked the idea and saw how it made mercy's gameplay more interesting while still fair and just popped it in.
@@jerbsherb4391super jump used to be a physics bug.
Now in ow2 there's a new bug where her ga will cancel+CD refunds if u ga to someone about to los you. So you get jerky glitched-looking movement and make them think ur ga is on cooldown. This bug has killed me a couple times but u can also do it do manipulate ur hitbox or bait them to go on u when they think u can't fly.
My favorite thing is flats explaining something very real with genuine concern and everybody calls him crazy. Then it happens and they all go “what, who could have predicted this outcome?!”
A bit offtopic but I hate how the go to method of nerfing problematic abilities has become to just increase their cooldowns. Yes Suzu, sleep, lamp or anti are all anoying to play against but Im playing Overwatch because it has cool abilities. I dont want to only be able to use an ability every 15, 20 or even 30 seconds. If an ability is so broken that your only way to fix it is to rarely let people use it, the ability is flawed on a fundamental level and needs to be completely reworked. Enough with these unfun bandaid cooldown nerfs.
ngl I think it would be fun to try an experiment where Bap's window is his cooldown (with nerfed multiplier and size, of course) and lamp is the ult (maybe with buffed HP and radius). Bring back the defensive support ults!
@@bohdanpyzh2712 Gonne be honest, we don't need another damage boost. Imagine Bap zen(if window was on cooldown). there wouldn't be enough money in the world to make me play tank against that. Call me bad or whatever idc, the game is supposed to be fun and playing tank in zen orb is already bad enough. Its a lot better since the dicsord got a cooldown but still.
@@sinistertoady6712what if it was a reverse window, then 🤔like, reducing the damage and healing of enemy shots that go through. could be an interesting defensive option, and maybe partially offensive if you throw it behind the enemy tank to reduce the healing
simply walks ahead of it
@@bohdanpyzh2712
@@bohdanpyzh2712Funny how you subconsciously added the “…throw it behind the enemy tank.” Tanks are just everyone’s -priority- punching bag now, it’s sad balance-wise.
What is Roadhog's favorite fruit?
- Banana (Ban Ana)
Lol, Good one
Flats needs to do a Tiktok comment Bingo game
Featuring emongg on comms just laughing along
5:00 Doom main since overwatch 1, and hearing chipsa asking for Widow nerfs while hearing Kenzo beg for widow buffs reminds me that niche communities shouldn't be listened to at times when it comes to balance.
I'm pretty sure you can't exactly train to get that pin on Rein consistently due to the fact that you would have to start charging just slightly before Orisa does Ult.
I might be wrong, but to me it seems like frame window is shorter than Rein's wind up time on charge
Yep
Yeah you can pretty much only do it accidentally
Add ping to the mix, and it’s just luck.
bro almost forgot bap an illari 💀
That bap and illari vid killed me 😂
"Thats not a tech thats a bug"
This also applies to dead by daylight players
A master's and lower Doom is playing Overwatch.
A GM Doom is playing Street Fighter with your backline.
That was OW1 Doom, so nah.
The gallus tiktok is one of my favorite new tiktoks ive seen in this series lmao
8:25 @Flats Cause he plays doom... the entirety of that character's history can be summed up in how can I break the map geometry/new character mechanics to do things the devs didn't anticipate.
The Reinhardt pinning Orisa bug happened to me literally yesterday at the end of a match, I really wish I had saved it as a clip
yea it happened to me like 7 months ago with fortify, not the ult, still have the clip of it
It happened to my friend a few days ago lol
I did the rein pin on orisa ult at the start of OW2, it IS very rare. But I was a rein main and played him almost exclusively, so I did see it a couple of times.
Title makes so much sense
Rein actively decided to charge a fortified Orisa
10:42 that zarya picture is so cursed
She’s using the ow2 skin but with the ow1 highlight
I was playing mercy and my Mauga died in his ult but he was close to the walls, so I stood there and rezzed him while the enemy team desperately tried to break the barrier to get to me, unrelated to the video just wanted to share
It is odd that it persists even after his death, and that if anyone walks into the tiniest pixel of the wall after deployment they get chained after the fact too~
@@Nynzyname all ults that stay when the caster is killed
I swear if we give him enough time quake will figure out how to get a soldier 76 across a payload map in one rocket jump or something just wow.
the quake jump thing on tower is lowky better than doom alt
Bro almost forgot to pick the most TikTok TikTok comment of the week 💀
Bamked beans
hahahaha banked beams
I would burn an ult for that Mauga roll out.
A small price to pay for an A-10 warthog
I am just picturing people trying that in their games (provided it even still works), and killing themselves or landing in the middle of the enemy team and getting instagibbed~
The Orisa bug happened to me while I was playing Orisa. My friend and I were so unbelievably confused
Dawg i deadass sat here n was like "damn i feel like ive watched this one before" I WAS IN THE STREAM BRO MY BRAIN IS FRIED
yeah overwatch does that to people
The way the guy says "Illari" makes me want to dig my own grave lol. "ee-ya-ri???".. WHAT??
its the proper pronunciation iirc. Not every name is in english.
4:45 SHOTS FIRED
I am speeeed. Time to watch some tiktok, the good the bad and even the braindead ones :)
Mercy cant defend herself Doom music startes playing here comes the hurricane
Bro almost forgot to make a TikTok video “skull emoji”
Made the worst play of my life yesterday on Echo:
I flew up really high, copied the ana, threw nade and genji deflected my nade into my entire team and then I missed sleep dart, ult ended and then I got pulse bombed.
Weekly inaugural award lol
I said in the comments of the Bap and illari vid "he definitely wanted flats to see this"
The doom mains aren’t gonna like that first one
Thanks my 1,000,000 IQ was getting low on the blockchain
Only thing increasing is his blood sugar
I think this video’s counter is Bap and Illari.
the orisa ult thing I have had with doomfist punch
Same lmao Orisa rushes in I punch her instinctively and next thing she’s ulting like 20 feet away all alone
ana is the counter for all tanks
I mean if you wanna go crazy you can do a donation to the winner, i forget who does it for apex but whenever they review these kinds of things they donates the winner on their twitch or something, usually $50
I miss pinning orisas on their own ults
I dont know if its still a thing,but i lost my shatter once to cas hinder. Right when my ult reached 100%,i died by the explosion and it just set me to 0 ult charge. rein sure got some interesting 'techs'
Still wondering why there are tank busters in a game with one tank. Maybe if all tanks got changed accordingly with the swap to 2 but they have yet to be adjusted and the dev team have yet to make any meaningful changes that genuinely help the game. Buffing bastion to high heavens was so cool really fun for everyone. I’m giving them a season after kotick leaves and if the game doesn’t at the bare minimum show promise for a good future I’ll just go find another slightly less sucky esport title to sweat on. I keep getting told kotick is the source of every problem they have. Is it realistic to think a game will do a complete 180 after one thing changes? Probably not. Have the ow devs had way more chances than they deserved? Absolutely
Tanks are pretty strong unless the entire team is focused on taking them out. that's why.
Tanks are strong but so is everything else. Having a role with 2 spots be able to shut down a role with 1 is insane. Tank busters were healthy for 2 tanks not one. And maybe if supports didn’t heal so much especially with not needing to since we’re missing another tank there wouldn’t be near as much of a problem with unkillable tanks. The numbers in the game just keep going up and they keep adding more heroes to complicate it even more. At this rate the game will never be balanced.
@@braydenk2361 If the role with 2 spots can't shut down the role with 1, the role with 2 spots is effectively useless, since tanks can definitely kill dps just fine. There is a very simple solution to supports doing healing: kill them first. Your team also has access to exactly the same things they do.
Bro almost forgot the TikTok TikTok Comment of the Week 💀
The "Don't use echos ult has a 2nd life " comment had me dead. 😂😂..
In that commenters brain they're basically saying don't even use her ult at all.
FR THOUGH, how else are you gonna use it 😭
The getquaked on magi one I’ve seen the well with a mei wall so they put the Mei wall under magi and the. He ultra on top of mei wall then he’s able to walk out of it while it’s still active then Mei wall goes away ult goes into well and then you see magi flying into well XD
I swear there is a bug with Ana sleep dart and Orisa cause im sure I slept an ulting Orisa and went wait what? Havent been able to replicate it but still it were one moment I didnt understand what happend.
Nah the Doomfist nerfs made no sense even by that logic, why is sombra, dva and Winston getting buffed then and why isn't tracer getting nerfed unless doom is better than all those characters (he isn't)
Doom was better at the time.
@@SpiritedFalcon so Doomfist is better than Tracer and DVA and Sombra? Oh yes and Genji is too that's why he didn't get buffed right, and now they're all on the same power level of course.
@munchiemunchie5226 Doomfist was better than DVA and Winston, I mean. That was in S6/early S7. Now he's def worse.
@munchiemunchie5226 oh and idk why they buffed Sombra, that hero is braindead for how strong she is.
The Doomfist healing-buff is kinda weird, they should have just give him max-barrier the second he goes into his ult and it only starts to decay after his ult is finished...
That sounds kinda... OP... Overhealth is stronger than healing I believe. (For instance it makes it harder for Cass to deadeye you or something.)
@@minimalgrammar1276 overhealth is literally just health, and does not reduce damage at all, overhealth makes it harder for cass to deadeye is because despite what people believe, deadeye does X amount of damage based on how long you locked onto someone, so if someone has more health than usual the cass will release deadeye at the time they usually do for that hero despite the hero having more health than expected and thus it not being enough
doom got a heal buff to his ult for one reason and one reason only: the ult was never ever used the way it was intended because doom never head enough health to use it by the time they got ult, the heal buff ensures they have no reason not to use it correctly
@@XiaoYueMao It not even a buff.... the healing is useless the use for the ult is still the same just instead of landing near a health pack you still land outside of the fight but slightly closer (case by case basis) if you use the ult offensively your going to instantly explode in like diamond+ games. His ult was use defensively because it allowed you to commit your punch and slam to get a pick and not be forced to save one to escape or rely on the enemy missing cc during your slow crawl as you block waiting for your cooldowns to come back up.
@@XiaoYueMao Bro that's not...
Yes, obviously overhealth doesn't provide DR. The point was that overhealth is more valuable than healing generally speaking. (Or at least in the context of Doom using his ult.) Please don't mansplain how Deadeye works, I literally main Cass. Sorry if I sound irritated but you shouldn't just automatically treat people like they don't know what they're talking about. Releasing deadeye at the same time you normally would wouldn't get you a kill. The difference between an instant kill and a heavy blow is significant in a lot of situations.
6:00 he’s baiting but kinda spittin facts
Mauga we also got Ana.
Thanks for watching my videos! 🐐
Wouldn't need a higher IQ if it was 1000000 already
Bro giving awards to tik tok comments💀
The worst part of that dude picking sus art for the heroes he mentions is that some are AI art
moria works very well with rein.
I just realized an Echo could duplicate an Ana and then nano the real Ana on their team.
why tho, she would heal more but two anas already heal more, and nanoing the tank or a dps would be more useful realistically
@@XiaoYueMaonanod ana can 2 tap body shot. It would make your real ana hard to kill for a long time. The only reason you don't see this is because ana copy rarely lives long enough to farm nano, and when it does she usually just throws it on anybody cuz copy is about to run out (and fight is prob already won anyways). They made it so ana can't nano herself cuz it'd be so op and she'd save it for herself always.
@@sawah765 two anas can just both shoot someone and "two tap" someone anyway, in fact two anas shooting the same target does more dmg than 1 nano ana since nano does 50% not 100% extra dmg. i dont think a nano ana is as useful as nanoing someone else, such as an ulting soldier.
Can also just nano your main ana to quickly farm nano for your main ana then she can nano someone else too. Because believe it or not, Echo ult into Ana nade + Ana ult into Ana + Nade does a fuck ton and farms ult quick and is a whole lot of no healing for enemy.
I love u flats. thanks for the great content!!!
I don't like the "doom buff" argument because literally every other tank in the game also gets those buffs but they don't get any nerfs with it.
Yea its a dumb statement
Quake without fail always finds a random useless tech
Omg I sent the nap and ilari one
Is it baiting when he is right? 😂😂
Kinda off topic but I had an echo in my game when I was going against an Orisa as Ram, the echo copied Orisa and we just walked at them and got one of the fastest team wipes I’ve ever gotten(also sorry for all the comments, I shoulda just edited and added the first one now that I think of it, much love flats)
BRING BACK SPECTATING BRONZES!!!
Who ate my leftover papa John’s?
*Illari* No.
"EEARDDI"
Ya I don’t know about the second dude opinion on doom I feel like everyone is getting gaslight thinking doom is good not knowing you can do 3x better with any tank
all techs are bugs, the only difference is if people want it to stay or not.
doom is just fine a B+ Tank and always will be
i personally discovered a doom tech and it helps me alot
What tech?
Not the dude who clearly doesn't know shit about doom trying to lecture doom mains
If the bait is right, is it still bait?
makes you think
This is always why I don't trust someone take on doomfist unless they actually use DOOMFIST. you can't say they technically buff doomfis by nerfing all the characters that counters him when they quit literally buff and introduce more characters that counters him. I always say it like this, oh you think he good k... Try getting him to gm see what happens. Oh he is so broken bet, play rank with him then, See what happens. Plus only reason why people use doomfist in tournaments is because monkey into bastions literally sucks. Instantly switch to doomfist cause he the only dive tank that can handle that. Doomfist does suck, it just that monkey and recking baller suck more smh
Literally, it's always the people that don't play Doom or understand him at all that say the most, and they think it's the truth because the top 0.1 of Doom players make him work. They'll never actually try to learn or play the character because they know what will happen. It's like saying ball is really strong because Chazm makes him work. They don't realize the absurd knowledge and perfection they need to have on that character to get the smallest value out of them in high ranks and even against counters. They see a good Doom do something amazing and say "this is why Doom is strong" and not even try to understand what the Doom actually did, they only care about the result
@@judebrown3588 Exactly and him calling them out for saying that they're character is bad is so ridiculous. Like you think if a 7 + year doom special says they're character is still shit, for all of overwatch 2 you think something should ring but it not just him , 90% of doom players says so. I get why people hate doom because he a stun spam character the things is most of us doom player don't even fucking what the stun, like it not even our choice. We stuck with it and force to play with such toxicity. Most of us just want damage you can take the stun idgaf about it, tbh I don't think a single soul wanted doomfist to be on tank . But we surfer because of it, and we are hated because we have it smh
I’ve said it time and time again that the entire OW community is completely out of touch with Doomfist as know absolutely nothing about the character. It’s insane, I’ve never seen this happen with any other hero. But it’s with Doomfist specifically. But of course we’re Doomfist main’s so our opinions are completely invalidated and we get lectured by these people who don’t even play the character.
@@kyubbikcat2281 I don't know why that is the case but it definitely is, like we have all these top 500 players who think doom is broken but it always the same thing, when they play him the instantly get smoke and they stop trying to play him. This includes flats too, always at the end there like it he still good he just too hard and I just suck at him. Like hmmmmm, wonder why. It is always that always , I don't get it. If dafran had trouble with the characters you think that should ring some bells , if some of the best players can't play doomfist then wtf y'all keep thinking he still broke. The dude literally can play the most mechanical character possible surely he can play doom but no.
@@typedark2661 Exactly, they don't realize the ridiculous hours we put on Doom for years, the custom game modes, experimenting, testing, map knowledge, character knowledge, bug knowledge etc. Flats will swear Doom is really good but complain that he has to play Orisa and Zarya or he'll lose, but tell other people that Doom is really good this season. He literally tried to play Doom when he got giga buffed in S2 but was still terrible and gave up, he'll only play Doom in QP but will speak as if he has in depth knowledge of Doom. It's funny he'll complain that Rein is bad but if we say Doom is bad we don't know what we're talking about and Doom is insane because he saw ZBRA get rank 1 when literally nobody else can play like him unless they no life the character. We want movement, more power into slam and interesting tech, but all we get is shitty power block and punch changes every patch, just so we can hear flats say Doom players are eating good this season, we literally aren't because none of us want that shit. He literally said the ultimate change was a buff but every Doom main instantly knew it was a nerf because we ACTUALLY understand the character
These TikToks do not inspire joy.
Bro you couldn't have watched it yet...
I watch at 1.5x speed.
And yes, I didn't watch the entire thing. Only watched 3 before commenting. @@jadenharris6560
Nerf brig and EVERYONE gets buffed
Can we please talk about sigma mains!!!!
Their the new doom and ball
Dooms good, I suck at doom, but hell he's fun but he can roll for sure lol
Any time I see people talk about doom and they think his ult healing him matters at all is crazy. The reason dooms used his ult to run away was because it let you use your entire kit for offense instead of running away. It legit baits people into thinking they can use his ult offensively and then instantly die the second they land. I feel like gallus is hard baiting more then normal calling out quake and zbra because they are both the type of people to shit talk him and give him more views.
Him healing during his ult is pretty good tho
@@ThatBoiDinkythat’s what supports for
@@ThatBoiDinky no it isn't.
Facts. An actual decent buff would've been to increase the landing time invulnerability window.
Bap an Illari
New vid awesome
let flats balance half a season I wanna see the vision
Rush meta, with Rein being the best tank.
Doom main here, I would just like to apologise for my bronze brethren who's 2 braincells are fighting for 3rd place. Doom is consistently good, every season, just need to adjust your playstyle 2 fit the meta.
His only flaw is his ult - moist pool noodle stri... I mean meteor strike.
Also as an echo enjoyer the best strat is to just copy any support with your ult
the comment at 13:02 is that a typical tiktok comment someone would make, dont use the app so idk but that is sarcastic comment u know that right?
Mr flats I’d like a refund these TikTok’s did not increase my IQ to 1,000,000
What? Moira ISNT considered a counter to Rein? I have NEVER lost a duel against a Rein on Moira, what are yall on about? The Reins cannot do jack shit to me! Im so confused on what countering means now..
That second guy needs to be protected at all costs. The Doomfist Yakuza is gonna come after him, but he's got more braincells than the entire Ana Mafia combined.
The thing is, doom isn't good and keeps gettings nerfed, he doesn't have dmg or cc anymore, make him a dps again
Doomfist Yakuza? Ha, good one. The Ana mafia however don’t nearly get the attention they deserve.
@@Asynurr Doom isn't good for people who are bad at him. Could he use buffs? Sure, absolutely. I think making him more akin to his OW2 PvP Beta version would be great. Does he need to be gigabuffed to the point that he's no longer a high-skill hero? No, not really.
@@mythmage8231that has never happened. Doom was in his most balanced state in season 1 and blizzard just keeps nerfing him because they just spoon-feed support players every patch
@mythmage8231 look i placed top 500 with him the past few season, he isn't good, i can swap to hog and get 3x the value as i can with doom, i know all his techs and bug, i got my degree in doomology lol, i have 2500+ hours on the hero between ow1 and ow2, with that being said you have to play a perfect game otherwise you lose, no tank gets punished as hard, as of right now doom is by far the highest skill ceiling hero (i main tracer on dps and she is definitely 2nd, but doom is way more difficult imo) his rocket punch should take longer to charge in exchange for more damage, and his primary is very bugged, he has 4 primary fire bugs, which makes it very inconsistent, if they just patched his bugs i would be happy, but the only ones they patch are the ones that effect other heros...i die to doom bugs morr than anything...again he is doomfist not doomprimary
I don't think people understand how scary doomfist was in the hands of a good doomfist player
Man it sucks that its getting harder to enjoy ow2 itself these days. I love the community and i see the potential the game has, but its getting less and less fun to play the game for me. Today for instance I decided to hop back in for the 1st time in about a month. I load up a quickplay game and instantly get a nasty audio bug where the sound cuts out every 10 of so seconds and when it comes back in its ear deafening. I leave the game and load into the practice range to see if it'll happen again and it seemed fine. I did get a weird texture glitch near the stairs to the right of spawn where it was justa bunch of red lines popping out of the geometry. Of course i cant go back into the actual game cus i had a 15 minute ban for leaving cus of the audio bug. Thats ridiculous. My first game in a month and i get a 15 min ban for leaving once. Decided why bother cus i can hate myself just as much by loading up rocket league or R6S. Its just ridiculous
2:29 Man Flats can be really egotistical and condescending sometimes 🙄
I’m not gonna lie, as a doom player, I think people don’t talk about how strong doom actually is. He can stun every 4 seconds. I don’t care that is strong. Before this latest patch doom ult was easy to build and even with this patch its every other fight. Seismic slam is constant pressure and escape. Power block is the biggest skill check in OW. Empowered punch is op. I don’t even think dooms skill floor is that high. Once you learn not to play him like Winston you’ll do good. I think dooms in for a rework as most of the cast is.
The amount of cringe in this one video is enough to fill a swimming pool.
Cookie! 🍪
The game is NOT 💀 fun whenever Doom is really strong. It just simply isn’t. He’s in a fine spot right now & good players will still get value out of him.
Pick and ban system similar to league of legends. Game is saved and OW will be #1 moba
And then someone bans Ana and picks Hog and is literally immortal
Overwatch is a sinking ship too many political messages, rainbows and leavers. I hope Flats wont vanish like Nokia.
I dont know why but imagine flats playing CoD Zombies
Of every issue in overwatch, the political messages are what gets you?
@@munchiemunchie5226yea its the only game i get them.
Ngl i clicked for that Ana thumbnail
4:50 is genuinely facts getqueefedon is remarkably insufferable
LOL "indirect buffs to Doom"... So marginal it's not even funny.
It is so ironic for Flats' chat to call other people NPCs...