Daily reminder for Mercy mains - Superjump FOR positioning, do not use Superjump AS positioning. After all, if you just coast in the air, enemy hitscans will use you for target practice.
@@Pikachu-qr4yb Hanging out in the skybox using SJ off cooldown is not a good “position” to be in- it leaves you very vulnerable in the air with nowhere to go, and you can easily get tapped by enemy hitscans or even very good projectiles. It also makes mercy’s path very predictable, it is easy to know where she is going (down, or to a nearby ally) and tap her on the way. Using SJ for positioning, means that you use it as means to access better positioning. Say you are playing Busan•Downtown, and your team is fighting on the ground. You don’t want to just super jump repeatedly in the air above them, but what you can do is use A super jump to access the top of the buildings, and help your team from there. This keeps you safe and makes it hard to get to you unless the enemy team has movement and pushes you. Generally speaking, you want to use GA and its associated techs for a reason, not just because the button is available. If you need some movement guides, you should check out Skiestis stream and channel, she has tons of helpful mercy content.
I think them never cancelling Angelic Descent was bothering me even more than the over-reliance on Superjumps. My anxiety spiked every time they just slooowly floated down while in full view of Widow or Soldier...
This is me- never thought i'd see the day but, i have been working on mercy in quick play instead of comp because watching this back is like a fever dream😭I have been playing more of Ana and hopefully i'll go into a higher rank in the next season, and I actually have been slingshotting instead of just spamming my super jump with ctrl recently, it was a bad habit and i see that now.. thanks for the advice
bestie if u want to see really good mercy i recommend watching eleyzhau on youtube! she is very good and her videos are relaxing as well. she really helped me improve my movement. and you can also try out mercy parkour and custom games to practice different rezzes. i still would maybe wait until gold or plat for mercy but if u can make it work go for it!
The pickme support comment is on point. I've run into a few moiras in particular that seem to almost avoid doing damage because they are afraid to be called a dps moira or something, like you literally need to have more damage to maximize your healing not to mention assist in picks.
This is such a pey peeve of mine as well. Supports can do so much damage, especially now. If you're gunna healbot pick someone who does more healing than Moira pleeeaaase
yes-i gasped multiple times at hanging out in the open or rezzing in the open instead of using very accessible cover. that + dmg boosting widow + not spamming superjump (it’s okay to play on the ground sometimes!) will fix this
Intro analysis by this player is very fair tbh, even if they don't really know how to play Mercy; they're trying. Why they're trying to learn a new hero (to them) in ranked though? No clue. But at least they're trying. Maybe just vibe as a different hero tho, Mercy ain't it for Bronze if you're hardstuck and even your main isn't enough to help you climb. Lowkey think they should've submitted their Ana gameplay though, especially if that's their main.
I always try new heroes in comp, quick play is a different game that just doesn’t play the same as comp (at least in my rank anyway). I don’t see an issue with learning a new hero in comp, but I can understand why some people might.
@@ariannaeleanor314its a bigger issue in higher elos they only got away with it bc its bronze and even then i still wouldnt play a hero idk how to play well in a comp game just to be safe
@@kiridluffy Eh, I don’t care what other players think anyway. If they have an issue with me playing a new to me hero in comp, that sucks but in all reality, their feelings aren’t my problem. But like I said, I get it either way.
Slingshotting is like the most useful thing, didn't starting playing ow2 until a few months ago and realising that pressing spacebar instead of control could launch me where I want was a massive realisation
What makes it worse is that the enemy tank was playing Zarya which is a natural counter for DVa. They're playing like they're a main tank fighting in the frontlines like Rein, when DVa is supposed to be a dive tank killing their backline.
I think the main problem with the super jumps is when you’re out of position you still use Angelic Decent instead of dropping quickly to hide or use cover
i know they're not a mercy main but the slow gliding down after superjump in the open is killing me... luckily this is bronze, otherwise her head isnt safe 😭
My boyfriend's friend always told me when I started to play OW1 around three years ago, to focus on Healing as Mercy and I was stuck on Silver. Decided to ignore that 'advice'. Three years later, I did a bit of three (Boosting and also Battle Mercy when required), I'm Plat Support. Hopefully someday I'll finally go Diamond in general (always been Plat).
That title is completely wrong. "REFUSED To Damage Boost" no, they damaged boosted a lot. Maybe not the right person, but they did a lot of damage boost.
If the duo wasn't support it would make a bit more sense but they're literally just praying that a random is good enough to carry them out of bronze if they get boosted.
These are normal bronze experiences. When I had played enough that way, started caring about needs of moments and got to silver and was making more independent plays, I unlocked the hatred of opposing teams and “hunt that Mercy at all costs” rivalries. Sometimes it’s fun because I can peel them off the objective entirely and help their match loss, and dancing around covers and corners and health packs is always fun, but mostly it just leads to dying often. Mercy players that don’t glock survive a whole lot easier because the Mercy hate doesn’t get triggered. ;) So yes it’s good advice to tell Mercy players to make plays, but on the other hand, get ready for the rivalry mini-games that will open up because they will be wicked. Get a streak of 3 or 5 elims, or take down the same widow or pharah twice in a row, and the chat can fill up with swear words lol. Mercy’s behaviour is heavily policed in the lower metals.
I like hearing Flats go full helpful coach mode. Even when it’s bronze gameplay - Flats says a few things about the game I didn’t know before or they’re good reminders
In reference to the beginning of the vod, the issue of supports making the most idiotic picks for comps is a problem that goes up to diamond maybe even low masters. If I had $10 for everytime Ive seen a mercy illari comp; illari when the rest of our team is full dive; stagnant supports with/or no brig when the enemy is full dive; refusal to play Kiri/bap when we're brawl and the enemy has an Ana etc. I genuinely could buy a 4090 setup
Or any combination of Mercy, Lucio, and Zen. The three supports with low healing output and are chosen more for their utility and they just end up healbotting the entire game.
Your comment is a few days old but it resonates with me So bad. It breaks my heart when I see support duos that will legit “unable” (not enable) the team. It makes it so hard to play. But I usually get a really good laugh when the mercy/zen/moira starts telling people they should swap in this scenario
WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE IS THE REAL FLATS!?!?!?!? WHEREREEEEEE!? No roasting, pure honesty and sweetness. It's a nice change to see coming from you, ex Meanie Weanie Flats.
Mercy player here! A lot of maps dont really require mercy to fly, and instead just take cover. Im not saying you shouldn’t, but you dont fancy mercy movement to effectively play her
Flats community, let him know- he gotta do that Deep Rock Galactic variety stream to level up his mental health 🙏 it’s 💯 wholesome fun with friends! FOR ROCK AND STOOONE (But he doesn’t look at TH-cam comments 😮💨)
@@azseal2669 oh that’s cool! One of his mods recently told me he doesn’t read TH-cam comments cause there’s so much Overwatch drama- which I do not fault him for.
8:12 90% of the time when u wanna use the slingshot at the end ga, look the direction u wanna go & press jump. pressing crouch to superjump locks 100% of ur momentum to the vertical, and is extremely predictable to shoot. u only rly wanna use it when u desperately need the extra height.
The timbers that shivered every time they spam super jumped with a widow/soldier staring at them. Sure it's bronze and barn doors would get missed, but that's such a bad habit to pick up lol
Its really important to know when and when not to superjump, you can take highground or go on niche platforms but it can also kill you extremely easy when you mess it up, and also, its very important to know when to switch as mercy
Hey flats. You pointed out that they had negative dmg with that team comp. Can you pls make an extra video about suboptimal team comps? So that more ppl can see that. I had way too many comps like that even beyond diamond. Thx
Helpful reminder: Skeet SHOOTING is the name of that hobby with the launcher and the clay disks to practice your marksmanship Skeet - SHOOTING, Flats lol
it's your crouch button. when you GA there's a meter that shows center screen that determines how high you can go. or, you can just hit jump to slingshot yourself.
I main Sombra, and when I get any attention whatsoever from my teammates I actually get mad. I don't want your heals, I don't want your help; if I die, that's my fault. The only time that isn't true is when people try to coordinate with me, and I purposefully do not engage in the fight to punish them for being out of position. If you see a Sombra on your team, you should be playing as a 4v5 and waiting for her to either pull aggro or get a kill.
@necrosis6037 because occasionally sombra actually gets top dmg and they think they can help. I also hate getting rez'd as sombra. Sombra has the fastest spawn reinforcement time of all heroes, and makes the least impact in a massive melee anyway.
it also feels like they're just dmg boosting to dmg boost, dmg boost has priority like say you see a zen volleying you should flick you dmg boost onto him but they just randomly dmg at times
Arond 15:50 - the zen doesn't have a heal orb on anyone for like a full 45 seconds. That's the problem with A LOT of zen players in lower ranks. They don't realize how heal orb works, or to refresh it when the person who had it dies.
i’m a mercy main and i haven’t been able to get out of bronze. this video has actually helped a lot. i just need to learn when it’s time to give mercy up and use a different character
This was very frustrating to watch. SJ just to SJ is so stupid and a waste of cooldown time. Save guardian angel and use SJ to position yourself in better places to enable your team. Also drives me crazy that they never slingshot, I slingshot probably 80% of my GAs. The other 15% is to just stay close enough to keep beam attached. finally 5% is to take high ground or get a quick overview of where the enemy team or my team are at and where they're going. And I also immediately fall back down when in the air since gliding just makes your hit box bigger. IMO, flipping your camera to go up is more reliable and precise in terms of doing jumps.
Flats I think you should do this series for players that are hardstuck in like plat or diamond. I'd like to see you coach up people that are decent instead of watching 10 bots. Also these playres complain about their teammates a lot so you'd get to put them in check there.
I recently went from bronze to gold 2 and my biggest advice is to find the one getting picks to pocket, ignore rez opportunities that are too close to groups of enemies, and only super jump to get to high ground or follow a flyer. Using spacebar to fly around corners saves you a lot more often than super jumping does. Hope this helps anyone playing mercy!
also another advice coming from a mercy main… please know when to swap off mercy! if your team isn’t doing anything and are making stupid decisions, dmg boosting/healbotting them won’t help! mercy *heavily* depends on her team, so when your team isn’t doing good, you won’t be either
The rezzing out in the open reminds me of older battlefield games where I'd keep getting rezzed out in the open then me and the medic both get killed lol
I was hardstuck bronze on support once and here's thing that helped me climb to gold (yes it's isn't much but it's still a progress): 1) Learn supports - i can play everyone except LW and Lucio because i don't like their gameplay. You should start building your main roster so you can choose a support that's better for your team. Remember: YOU should be picking a character for your team needs, not otherwise (unless your team agrees to pick for you); 2) Watch these types of videos because they helped me to learn positioning on every map. Positioning is the most important thing, you should know where you can take cover; 3) Play Mercy parkour, it's the most helpful thing that you 100% should play if you want to be better at Mercy. It helps you to learn her techs and also you get to know maps - it helps with positioning. And overall every parkour is helpful in their own way; 4) Don't use superjump all the time, the only time i sj it's when it makes me covered: you can sj when you hide over the angle because that helps to have distance between you and your teammates but also lets you see your team and you have more time to react. Overall sj is better for positioning, spectating your team and intel like on this map where Mercy can easily see enemy team in 1st point, you just have to fall fast and not glide: 5) Use techs used in parkour to be slippery, it can win games. Fly from teammate to teammate, hide on high ground if it's safe, use prop jump if you stuck, remember that you can still GA to your teammate if they out of LOS for a couple of seconds; 6) Don't go for a pretty rez if it puts you in danger or you not sure if you can pull it off. It's better just to do simple rez in the cover. But in Valk you can risk it tho; 7) It's controversial and situational but there's nothing wrong with falling back after you rez your other support. It depends on other support but to your team it's more useful to have one Ana (esp with nano) than one Mercy; 8) Shoot Enemy!!! Esp Widow in valk. Good Widow can humble you but if you in bronze what she can do? Spray you? Don't be afraid to defend yourself if your DPS died there's chance you can win and safely rez but again it's situational. Also you can do damage when your team doesn't need that much healing and enemy team clumping together like when yoiu in defense on Kingsrow. If you shoot some bullets you can land some hs and even kill a squishy. But that's more for funsies.
General tip to everyone not this person only: Your mercy movement will get 100000x better once you learn to stop relying on the super jump! Use her GA to jump really high. Reduced cooldown, faster fall, use the super jump only when really needing to get high
I wonder if some of it comes from the pressure a lot of people give when u play a support. They’ll yell at u to switch off of whoever ur flex support is and play mercy.
This Mercy needs to realize that Mercy can still use WASD while floating or during GA cancel. They keep looking at random directions for no reason at all. And like Flats said, utilize slingshots more. You can even do it backwards if you hold S during GA cancel.
From playing for 4 years, you’ll learn that not every support is gonna work with every hero. Definitely right when choosing my the wrong hero unless the tank and dps switch
I recently retired from tank (I can't, I'm sorry.) and started playing DPS with my new PC upgrade (playing with a 144hz monitor is crazy). So far I've learned it's really frustrating when we have a mirror comp but the only difference is that my mercy is pocketing the junkrat and their mercy is pocketing the enemy soldier, but I'm still almost winning every engagement I have where I'm fighting the soldier, but the extra healing/damage boost the soldier is getting is just enough to make up for the small bit of better aim I have over them. It makes me sad.
from my understanding bronze players see different heroes as hard to play or "troll" heroes such as doom, widow, ashe, lucio and mostly hitscans and they decide to pocket something more "reliable"
I've recently "fallen from grace" and fallen back to metal ranks. And I'm not taking a minor fall either. I'm talking low Diamond all the way down to high Silver low Gold last season. Anyhow it shocked me how metal ranks will literally NEVER complain about a Mercy. It can be the world's worst Mercy and it doesn't matter because almost all metal rank players equate Mercy with heals. It's quite hilarious honestly. Thank God I'm almost back to where I was before last season.
as a widow main: yeah, flying for the widow is NOT rly a good idea... widow mains are kinda used to it, and HS a valk mercy is not as hard as you think XD but i guess yeah in this elo that's a really good play
Hey flats, new to the channel here, and just wondering what I can do to send in my clips. I started playing overwatch 2, and am really enjoying the game, I would like any critiques I can get from a high level player like yourself
As someone who is learning mercy play some mercy parkour to get comfy with her movements, then learn when and who is best to damage boost and heal, and don’t play mercy in bronze Also play some dps mercy it comes in handy when you need to save yourself
TL;DR: Positive voice chat for lvl 5 endorsement and wins that would normally be a thrown match. Get in the habit. Maybe that hat might hide a rabbit. *_STAB IT_* this right here's black magic... lol 19:45 I thought this too lol. Until I randomly looked up and saw lvl 5. Playing only Zen, Bap, Monkey, and Ram. I was mad surprised. However, more people have been in VC lately. And, I call out like it's OWL finals every game haha. And, I "figured out" a simple method to increase wins (granted you got people in VC). Just keep moral up... even if everyone is getting touched inappropriately... Give out all the compliments you can, and "ooo good try, if you can do _this_ next time! you almost got it!" "We almost had it, if we could just do _this_ or _this"._ And, anytime you feel the energy drop, or that your team is starting to check out "It's all good yo! The comebacks are strong! We know what to do now. If any of you can go _this_ that would be lovely. If not it's all good. Just focus the discord. Rather you play what your best with" "Yo, it's all good. Typically, if you get rolled on defense. They are gonna blow on defense just as bad. If not worse, same for attack. Trust me it isn't over. We're gonna roll them just as hard if not harder, as long as no one gives up. But, they will start flaming each other. And, that's the dub right there". Just constantly keep moral up. And, if you know why yall got rolled. Just talk em through it and keep them focused. If they at least know what happened and aren't confused (if they don't know. Then it's "my whole team blows"). Or, at least believe someone knows what's going on... They tend to not give up. You're playing suicide hotline operator all game XD. And, it fucking works. You can't be fake with it though. Don't let that malice seep out lol. Also, if you apologize and take full responsibility. It tends to kick people in gear cause they know that the Zen with the same damage as the highest dps in the lobby, and matching or the highest heals on the lobby. Isn't the problem. And, they want to now do their part as hard as you are. You will see Genjis post fight look back at you for affirmation HAHA. Just hop in the positivity pocket and ride. But don't lie (other than "shit, my bad guys. I fucked that whole thing") you can be like "ooof that was rough my guy, no worries though. Shit happens to us all" (or speak on getting greedy, unlucky, cheesed, misses, bad positioning etc. And, condition them with a tip or better option. AND FUCKING NOTICE THEM IF THEY DO IT. That just lights people up. And, they love it. I'm sure yall know what that feels like at least a little. When someone gives you advice or asks for help, and you complete the mission. And, they verbally dap you up. Just feels good. And, you want to continue to complete the mission). I'll think no one is listening all game. We will take a hard L. And, then I'll get 3+ endorsements. And, you go "oh, wow... guess they were listening to all that. And, at the very least appreciated the effort or environment you created. And, you bet your ass of you get them in your next game. They are fired up in the chat, or their mic flips on... It has similarities to freestyling in some sense. You wanna be present and not tack last's ass match on the one you're in now. Maybe that stupid asshole Genji was just that last match. But, maybe this Genji, tank, or Mercy is just confused... Or, doesn't know...
might be a unpopular opinion but other than pulling good rezes, pocketing flyers and enabling good players to get away with more.. Mercy is kind of a deadweight pick because when I played my support from Bronze to Diamonds I would get most of the time as much if not more healing than mercy with Baptiste/Kiriko/Moira but with an added 6-10k damage on top of that so when I'm moira for example and have 12k heals 12k damage and I see a mercy with 10k heals it really feels like deadweight to me like you could have twice the impact. Edit: I think the screenshot at 10:52 proves my point, for example the enemy moira has more heals then her with 14k and also 8.6k damage
sometimes it seems to me that novice players on "mercy" cannot use "flight" correctly. As if the pseudo-simplification of "flight" only made it more difficult to learn how to play for this character.
Daily reminder for Mercy mains - Superjump FOR positioning, do not use Superjump AS positioning. After all, if you just coast in the air, enemy hitscans will use you for target practice.
and after a certain elo, they will not miss :)
Very true, unless it's overtime and you're in gold so they just develop horse blinders on whoever you're pocketing.
Yep, it's honestly way easier to hit flying characters than the ones on the ground(Soldier main here)
Can you elaborate on FOR positioning instead of AS?
@@Pikachu-qr4yb Hanging out in the skybox using SJ off cooldown is not a good “position” to be in- it leaves you very vulnerable in the air with nowhere to go, and you can easily get tapped by enemy hitscans or even very good projectiles. It also makes mercy’s path very predictable, it is easy to know where she is going (down, or to a nearby ally) and tap her on the way.
Using SJ for positioning, means that you use it as means to access better positioning.
Say you are playing Busan•Downtown, and your team is fighting on the ground. You don’t want to just super jump repeatedly in the air above them, but what you can do is use A super jump to access the top of the buildings, and help your team from there. This keeps you safe and makes it hard to get to you unless the enemy team has movement and pushes you.
Generally speaking, you want to use GA and its associated techs for a reason, not just because the button is available. If you need some movement guides, you should check out Skiestis stream and channel, she has tons of helpful mercy content.
The soldiers inability to hit a single shot on baby dva 1 foot in front of him was insane 😂 I actually laughed so hard
That has to be the most educational Spectating Bronze video Flats has ever done.
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well the guy asked for help, didn't have a huge ego, and knowing that mercy in low ranks is just really tough, so it's quite a nice change!
@@randomaccount3364 Honestly I think that's it - the humility brought out softer Flats
yeah, nice when he isnt being a dick over every little thing for once lol
@@Destiny-pf6jvwell when the player sends it in and act like they’re the greatest than yeah he’s gonna be super critical lol
they should slingshot to cover more. it's just been superjump superjump superjump superjump
And on top of the super jumps, it was always a slow float back to the ground.
Honestly, shame on the enemy Widow for not farming kills on this mercy
@@EyclonusIt is bronze lobby. You can't expect Widow players there to hit their shots.
I think them never cancelling Angelic Descent was bothering me even more than the over-reliance on Superjumps. My anxiety spiked every time they just slooowly floated down while in full view of Widow or Soldier...
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This is me- never thought i'd see the day but, i have been working on mercy in quick play instead of comp because watching this back is like a fever dream😭I have been playing more of Ana and hopefully i'll go into a higher rank in the next season, and I actually have been slingshotting instead of just spamming my super jump with ctrl recently, it was a bad habit and i see that now.. thanks for the advice
Mad props for taking constructive criticism well, not a skill a lot of people have.
Yoo, how did your placements go?
@@melhass0326 thank you! I will take any advice any day lol
@@hopscotch5872 it went good:)
bestie if u want to see really good mercy i recommend watching eleyzhau on youtube! she is very good and her videos are relaxing as well. she really helped me improve my movement. and you can also try out mercy parkour and custom games to practice different rezzes. i still would maybe wait until gold or plat for mercy but if u can make it work go for it!
The pickme support comment is on point. I've run into a few moiras in particular that seem to almost avoid doing damage because they are afraid to be called a dps moira or something, like you literally need to have more damage to maximize your healing not to mention assist in picks.
This is such a pey peeve of mine as well. Supports can do so much damage, especially now. If you're gunna healbot pick someone who does more healing than Moira pleeeaaase
As a mercy main this Percy needs to play more round cover, especially when there’s a widow
*mercy
Its ok, I'm sure Mr. De Rolo would agree
guys he made a spelling mistake laugh at him
@@xEvilRaptorx this is such a niche joke and I love it lmao
yes-i gasped multiple times at hanging out in the open or rezzing in the open instead of using very accessible cover. that + dmg boosting widow + not spamming superjump (it’s okay to play on the ground sometimes!) will fix this
him calling slingshots extendos is so funny
Intro analysis by this player is very fair tbh, even if they don't really know how to play Mercy; they're trying. Why they're trying to learn a new hero (to them) in ranked though? No clue. But at least they're trying. Maybe just vibe as a different hero tho, Mercy ain't it for Bronze if you're hardstuck and even your main isn't enough to help you climb.
Lowkey think they should've submitted their Ana gameplay though, especially if that's their main.
I always try new heroes in comp, quick play is a different game that just doesn’t play the same as comp (at least in my rank anyway).
I don’t see an issue with learning a new hero in comp, but I can understand why some people might.
@@ariannaeleanor314its a bigger issue in higher elos they only got away with it bc its bronze and even then i still wouldnt play a hero idk how to play well in a comp game just to be safe
@@kiridluffy
Eh, I don’t care what other players think anyway. If they have an issue with me playing a new to me hero in comp, that sucks but in all reality, their feelings aren’t my problem.
But like I said, I get it either way.
All is good with the world when you wake up to a new flats video
The mercy first pulling out her glock making flats loose his shit has made my day 😂
Slingshotting is like the most useful thing, didn't starting playing ow2 until a few months ago and realising that pressing spacebar instead of control could launch me where I want was a massive realisation
yeah i use slingshot more than super jump and its such a good ability
Except you have to know how to use it. You can launch yourself into death
mercy pls, you don't have to hit the skybox every time you valk 😭😭
I'm gonna be real. Ever since they made it so you could super jump on a button, I've developed the bad habit of always doing it.
Glad to know I'm not the only one then lol.
save it for when u really need it :3 even if the cd is low it helps to save it more than over use it
there's a super jump button? what where
@yin41 when you are flying to someone get the meter full and press crouch. Insta super jump
@@blazedbabe333 I know. I have to literally tell myself I gotta stop doing it mid game.
As a soon-to-be 51 year old granddaddy, I was hoping to submit a code. But I just got a silver 2 tank placement. I want to get shredded!!
hope you have fun gaming ! ❤
Can we talk about the incapacity of this Mercy DVA to use her boosters?
What makes it worse is that the enemy tank was playing Zarya which is a natural counter for DVa. They're playing like they're a main tank fighting in the frontlines like Rein, when DVa is supposed to be a dive tank killing their backline.
Yes the tank was playing utter shit. I can’t believe they even got first point on attack. Widow carried that.
I think the main problem with the super jumps is when you’re out of position you still use Angelic Decent instead of dropping quickly to hide or use cover
Thank god, I thought he stopped doing the spectating bronze thing. Nice
i know they're not a mercy main but the slow gliding down after superjump in the open is killing me... luckily this is bronze, otherwise her head isnt safe 😭
My boyfriend's friend always told me when I started to play OW1 around three years ago, to focus on Healing as Mercy and I was stuck on Silver. Decided to ignore that 'advice'.
Three years later, I did a bit of three (Boosting and also Battle Mercy when required), I'm Plat Support. Hopefully someday I'll finally go Diamond in general (always been Plat).
yesss aggro mercy is rank up mercy youll be diamond soon!! :)
As an Ana main it's annoying to get a mercy on my team that only heals the tank 99% of the time! Let your Ana get ult charge!!
That title is completely wrong. "REFUSED To Damage Boost" no, they damaged boosted a lot. Maybe not the right person, but they did a lot of damage boost.
Yeah I was thinking this too
Nothing is worse than having a healbot mercy one trick on your team
A duo Mercy in Bronze is insane...
Mercy is about enabling a good player, but since they're in bronze it's an illogical choice
If the duo wasn't support it would make a bit more sense but they're literally just praying that a random is good enough to carry them out of bronze if they get boosted.
Im her older brother, the reason they duo queue support is because the rest of her friend group is console
These are normal bronze experiences. When I had played enough that way, started caring about needs of moments and got to silver and was making more independent plays, I unlocked the hatred of opposing teams and “hunt that Mercy at all costs” rivalries. Sometimes it’s fun because I can peel them off the objective entirely and help their match loss, and dancing around covers and corners and health packs is always fun, but mostly it just leads to dying often. Mercy players that don’t glock survive a whole lot easier because the Mercy hate doesn’t get triggered. ;)
So yes it’s good advice to tell Mercy players to make plays, but on the other hand, get ready for the rivalry mini-games that will open up because they will be wicked. Get a streak of 3 or 5 elims, or take down the same widow or pharah twice in a row, and the chat can fill up with swear words lol. Mercy’s behaviour is heavily policed in the lower metals.
I like hearing Flats go full helpful coach mode. Even when it’s bronze gameplay - Flats says a few things about the game I didn’t know before or they’re good reminders
In reference to the beginning of the vod, the issue of supports making the most idiotic picks for comps is a problem that goes up to diamond maybe even low masters.
If I had $10 for everytime Ive seen a mercy illari comp; illari when the rest of our team is full dive; stagnant supports with/or no brig when the enemy is full dive; refusal to play Kiri/bap when we're brawl and the enemy has an Ana etc.
I genuinely could buy a 4090 setup
Or any combination of Mercy, Lucio, and Zen. The three supports with low healing output and are chosen more for their utility and they just end up healbotting the entire game.
Your comment is a few days old but it resonates with me
So bad.
It breaks my heart when I see support duos that will legit “unable” (not enable) the team. It makes it so hard to play. But I usually get a really good laugh when the mercy/zen/moira starts telling people they should swap in this scenario
I play mystery heroes a lot and when I get Mercy I do exactly what he says. Observe who's a good player and gets kills and pocket that one.
WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE IS THE REAL FLATS!?!?!?!? WHEREREEEEEE!? No roasting, pure honesty and sweetness. It's a nice change to see coming from you, ex Meanie Weanie Flats.
Mercy player here! A lot of maps dont really require mercy to fly, and instead just take cover. Im not saying you shouldn’t, but you dont fancy mercy movement to effectively play her
Yes her movement is so so so good if you do it right but it will definitely be your demise if you fly to fly and not to survive.
I will never trust a Flats skin rating ever again! What do you MEAN Zhuque is a C???? Blasphemy XD
Flats community, let him know- he gotta do that Deep Rock Galactic variety stream to level up his mental health 🙏 it’s 💯 wholesome fun with friends!
FOR ROCK AND STOOONE
(But he doesn’t look at TH-cam comments 😮💨)
Idk, he read my 7v7 prolander comment awhile back omegalul.
@@azseal2669 oh that’s cool! One of his mods recently told me he doesn’t read TH-cam comments cause there’s so much Overwatch drama- which I do not fault him for.
ROCK AND STONE
@@Jonny_Rhombus I was joking, dw. DRG is a great game tho. Rock and Stone forever!
ROCK AND STONE, BROTHER!!!
ive had mercys in plat that don't damage boost. Mercy brain is a real thing how can even non mercy players understand their character better. Wild.
10:14 this mercy is EXTREMELY lucky their widow is bad ortherwise she would've gotten domed right here.
8:12 90% of the time when u wanna use the slingshot at the end ga, look the direction u wanna go & press jump. pressing crouch to superjump locks 100% of ur momentum to the vertical, and is extremely predictable to shoot. u only rly wanna use it when u desperately need the extra height.
Literally me in OW1 haha. Good thing I didn't play Ranked
The timbers that shivered every time they spam super jumped with a widow/soldier staring at them. Sure it's bronze and barn doors would get missed, but that's such a bad habit to pick up lol
I’ve been binging these and you happened to upload one. Thank you 🙏
i thought with the title she would have like, 5% damage beam usage 58% doesn’t seem bad especially for bronze
Its really important to know when and when not to superjump, you can take highground or go on niche platforms but it can also kill you extremely easy when you mess it up, and also, its very important to know when to switch as mercy
Hey flats. You pointed out that they had negative dmg with that team comp. Can you pls make an extra video about suboptimal team comps? So that more ppl can see that. I had way too many comps like that even beyond diamond. Thx
Helpful reminder: Skeet SHOOTING is the name of that hobby with the launcher and the clay disks to practice your marksmanship
Skeet - SHOOTING, Flats
lol
16:49- wait... there's a button for super jumping..? I don't touch Mercy so all of this stuff's r/wooooosh-ing over me like Valk
Crouch while you are using ga makes you go up. Jump while ga makes you get a burst of speed in the direction you look.
it's your crouch button. when you GA there's a meter that shows center screen that determines how high you can go.
or, you can just hit jump to slingshot yourself.
Lol had the same reaction
I have a suspension that their duo plays Mercy the same way we are seeing them play Mercy which is why they don't know all the techniques.
I main Sombra, and when I get any attention whatsoever from my teammates I actually get mad. I don't want your heals, I don't want your help; if I die, that's my fault. The only time that isn't true is when people try to coordinate with me, and I purposefully do not engage in the fight to punish them for being out of position. If you see a Sombra on your team, you should be playing as a 4v5 and waiting for her to either pull aggro or get a kill.
What about getting a repair pack thrown at you
@@necrosis6037 those are usually pretty discreet, but any more than one is unnecessary. I'm thinking of mercy pocket mostly
@@MrNeCr01 why is mercy pocketing a dive character lol
@necrosis6037 because occasionally sombra actually gets top dmg and they think they can help. I also hate getting rez'd as sombra. Sombra has the fastest spawn reinforcement time of all heroes, and makes the least impact in a massive melee anyway.
Do ppl do this in Bronze......ALL THE TIME 😂 I play solo so I see much more stupidity down here.
It makes me wana have a bronze account if for no other reason but the LOLs
@@skeeteronthewater1568 It's pretty hilarious, so many people don't know hiw to capture the objective when they are fresh.
it also feels like they're just dmg boosting to dmg boost, dmg boost has priority like say you see a zen volleying you should flick you dmg boost onto him but they just randomly dmg at times
Arond 15:50 - the zen doesn't have a heal orb on anyone for like a full 45 seconds. That's the problem with A LOT of zen players in lower ranks. They don't realize how heal orb works, or to refresh it when the person who had it dies.
i’m a mercy main and i haven’t been able to get out of bronze. this video has actually helped a lot. i just need to learn when it’s time to give mercy up and use a different character
I scream when mercy’s only hold heal beam, it’s beyond pointless 🤢 and this title is wrong there’s a lot of damage boost 🤨🤨🤨
in a sarcastic way xD
This is the kinda coaching and feedback I need too - lol
Fantastic advice
I quite literally demote every time I queue with people. I only do well when I solo queue
This was very frustrating to watch. SJ just to SJ is so stupid and a waste of cooldown time. Save guardian angel and use SJ to position yourself in better places to enable your team. Also drives me crazy that they never slingshot, I slingshot probably 80% of my GAs. The other 15% is to just stay close enough to keep beam attached. finally 5% is to take high ground or get a quick overview of where the enemy team or my team are at and where they're going. And I also immediately fall back down when in the air since gliding just makes your hit box bigger.
IMO, flipping your camera to go up is more reliable and precise in terms of doing jumps.
Holy shit that soldier pov its like his mouse has recoil not the gun
Each time they tried to super jump they broke their beam and it drives me INSANE. Like her beam uptime is…. Not there !
Flats I think you should do this series for players that are hardstuck in like plat or diamond. I'd like to see you coach up people that are decent instead of watching 10 bots. Also these playres complain about their teammates a lot so you'd get to put them in check there.
9:27 would've been a great spot to damage boost the ulting moira.
17:24 "Your not that guy! Your not him!"
2:43 yeah that sums up mercy
I recently went from bronze to gold 2 and my biggest advice is to find the one getting picks to pocket, ignore rez opportunities that are too close to groups of enemies, and only super jump to get to high ground or follow a flyer. Using spacebar to fly around corners saves you a lot more often than super jumping does. Hope this helps anyone playing mercy!
also another advice coming from a mercy main… please know when to swap off mercy! if your team isn’t doing anything and are making stupid decisions, dmg boosting/healbotting them won’t help! mercy *heavily* depends on her team, so when your team isn’t doing good, you won’t be either
The rezzing out in the open reminds me of older battlefield games where I'd keep getting rezzed out in the open then me and the medic both get killed lol
I was hardstuck bronze on support once and here's thing that helped me climb to gold (yes it's isn't much but it's still a progress):
1) Learn supports - i can play everyone except LW and Lucio because i don't like their gameplay. You should start building your main roster so you can choose a support that's better for your team. Remember: YOU should be picking a character for your team needs, not otherwise (unless your team agrees to pick for you);
2) Watch these types of videos because they helped me to learn positioning on every map. Positioning is the most important thing, you should know where you can take cover;
3) Play Mercy parkour, it's the most helpful thing that you 100% should play if you want to be better at Mercy. It helps you to learn her techs and also you get to know maps - it helps with positioning. And overall every parkour is helpful in their own way;
4) Don't use superjump all the time, the only time i sj it's when it makes me covered: you can sj when you hide over the angle because that helps to have distance between you and your teammates but also lets you see your team and you have more time to react. Overall sj is better for positioning, spectating your team and intel like on this map where Mercy can easily see enemy team in 1st point, you just have to fall fast and not glide:
5) Use techs used in parkour to be slippery, it can win games. Fly from teammate to teammate, hide on high ground if it's safe, use prop jump if you stuck, remember that you can still GA to your teammate if they out of LOS for a couple of seconds;
6) Don't go for a pretty rez if it puts you in danger or you not sure if you can pull it off. It's better just to do simple rez in the cover. But in Valk you can risk it tho;
7) It's controversial and situational but there's nothing wrong with falling back after you rez your other support. It depends on other support but to your team it's more useful to have one Ana (esp with nano) than one Mercy;
8) Shoot Enemy!!! Esp Widow in valk. Good Widow can humble you but if you in bronze what she can do? Spray you? Don't be afraid to defend yourself if your DPS died there's chance you can win and safely rez but again it's situational. Also you can do damage when your team doesn't need that much healing and enemy team clumping together like when yoiu in defense on Kingsrow. If you shoot some bullets you can land some hs and even kill a squishy. But that's more for funsies.
They were literally just superjumping the whole time
Why would an Ana main stuck in Bronze send in Mercy gameplay? I don't get it.
i love how Flats loves battle mercy LMFAO
General tip to everyone not this person only: Your mercy movement will get 100000x better once you learn to stop relying on the super jump! Use her GA to jump really high. Reduced cooldown, faster fall, use the super jump only when really needing to get high
Flats "Look up what skeet is"
Yeah maybe don't do that guys...
Does anyone know how to show your mic is muted in the top left corner
yesterday i got called rabies mercy bcs I pulled out my glock so often so seeing flats be happy about someone glocking made me laugh
I wonder if some of it comes from the pressure a lot of people give when u play a support. They’ll yell at u to switch off of whoever ur flex support is and play mercy.
mercy is my least played support and i 100% focus on the movement instead of being actually useful so this video is much appreciated.
This Mercy needs to realize that Mercy can still use WASD while floating or during GA cancel. They keep looking at random directions for no reason at all.
And like Flats said, utilize slingshots more. You can even do it backwards if you hold S during GA cancel.
From playing for 4 years, you’ll learn that not every support is gonna work with every hero. Definitely right when choosing my the wrong hero unless the tank and dps switch
Use the GA dash/slingshot and look where you want to go (including up). They only use the crouch superjump....
this is the nicest flats react/improvement vod hes usually more brutal than this lmfao
I recently retired from tank (I can't, I'm sorry.) and started playing DPS with my new PC upgrade (playing with a 144hz monitor is crazy). So far I've learned it's really frustrating when we have a mirror comp but the only difference is that my mercy is pocketing the junkrat and their mercy is pocketing the enemy soldier, but I'm still almost winning every engagement I have where I'm fighting the soldier, but the extra healing/damage boost the soldier is getting is just enough to make up for the small bit of better aim I have over them. It makes me sad.
Why is this player trying to learn Mercy of all heroes to climb lmao
As a mercy player with 500+ hrs on her (I'm aware I'm a loser), my advice is: don't play mercy lul
from my understanding bronze players see different heroes as hard to play or "troll" heroes such as doom, widow, ashe, lucio and mostly hitscans and they decide to pocket something more "reliable"
if you have a widow and an ashe on the same team there’s a huge chance your supports will just throw LMFAO
I've recently "fallen from grace" and fallen back to metal ranks. And I'm not taking a minor fall either. I'm talking low Diamond all the way down to high Silver low Gold last season. Anyhow it shocked me how metal ranks will literally NEVER complain about a Mercy. It can be the world's worst Mercy and it doesn't matter because almost all metal rank players equate Mercy with heals. It's quite hilarious honestly. Thank God I'm almost back to where I was before last season.
Bronze support should just play moira, kill everything and call it a day.
if someone do that it would leave bronze and be plat or higher, as me, but i never was bronce event silver, so idk
When she pulls the blaster out 🤣😂
as a widow main: yeah, flying for the widow is NOT rly a good idea... widow mains are kinda used to it, and HS a valk mercy is not as hard as you think XD
but i guess yeah in this elo that's a really good play
Day 3 of begging flats for a cheese tier list
Hey flats, new to the channel here, and just wondering what I can do to send in my clips. I started playing overwatch 2, and am really enjoying the game, I would like any critiques I can get from a high level player like yourself
to be fair ive never flicked to get information literally only for movement
As someone who is learning mercy play some mercy parkour to get comfy with her movements, then learn when and who is best to damage boost and heal, and don’t play mercy in bronze
Also play some dps mercy it comes in handy when you need to save yourself
This is so heartwarming ❤
This Percy didn't have anything to dmg boost 😂
Gold 4 mercy here checking out if I can learn to be a better mercy from our boy flats
TL;DR: Positive voice chat for lvl 5 endorsement and wins that would normally be a thrown match. Get in the habit. Maybe that hat might hide a rabbit.
*_STAB IT_* this right here's black magic... lol
19:45 I thought this too lol. Until I randomly looked up and saw lvl 5. Playing only Zen, Bap, Monkey, and Ram. I was mad surprised. However, more people have been in VC lately. And, I call out like it's OWL finals every game haha. And, I "figured out" a simple method to increase wins (granted you got people in VC). Just keep moral up... even if everyone is getting touched inappropriately... Give out all the compliments you can, and "ooo good try, if you can do _this_ next time! you almost got it!" "We almost had it, if we could just do _this_ or _this"._ And, anytime you feel the energy drop, or that your team is starting to check out "It's all good yo! The comebacks are strong! We know what to do now. If any of you can go _this_ that would be lovely. If not it's all good. Just focus the discord. Rather you play what your best with" "Yo, it's all good. Typically, if you get rolled on defense. They are gonna blow on defense just as bad. If not worse, same for attack. Trust me it isn't over. We're gonna roll them just as hard if not harder, as long as no one gives up. But, they will start flaming each other. And, that's the dub right there". Just constantly keep moral up. And, if you know why yall got rolled. Just talk em through it and keep them focused. If they at least know what happened and aren't confused (if they don't know. Then it's "my whole team blows"). Or, at least believe someone knows what's going on... They tend to not give up. You're playing suicide hotline operator all game XD. And, it fucking works. You can't be fake with it though. Don't let that malice seep out lol. Also, if you apologize and take full responsibility. It tends to kick people in gear cause they know that the Zen with the same damage as the highest dps in the lobby, and matching or the highest heals on the lobby. Isn't the problem. And, they want to now do their part as hard as you are. You will see Genjis post fight look back at you for affirmation HAHA. Just hop in the positivity pocket and ride. But don't lie (other than "shit, my bad guys. I fucked that whole thing") you can be like "ooof that was rough my guy, no worries though. Shit happens to us all" (or speak on getting greedy, unlucky, cheesed, misses, bad positioning etc. And, condition them with a tip or better option. AND FUCKING NOTICE THEM IF THEY DO IT. That just lights people up. And, they love it. I'm sure yall know what that feels like at least a little. When someone gives you advice or asks for help, and you complete the mission. And, they verbally dap you up. Just feels good. And, you want to continue to complete the mission). I'll think no one is listening all game. We will take a hard L. And, then I'll get 3+ endorsements. And, you go "oh, wow... guess they were listening to all that. And, at the very least appreciated the effort or environment you created. And, you bet your ass of you get them in your next game. They are fired up in the chat, or their mic flips on... It has similarities to freestyling in some sense. You wanna be present and not tack last's ass match on the one you're in now. Maybe that stupid asshole Genji was just that last match. But, maybe this Genji, tank, or Mercy is just confused... Or, doesn't know...
TIL That apparently my instinct to kill Pharahs and Widows as Mercy is good actually. Huh.
might be a unpopular opinion but other than pulling good rezes, pocketing flyers and enabling good players to get away with more.. Mercy is kind of a deadweight pick because when I played my support from Bronze to Diamonds I would get most of the time as much if not more healing than mercy with Baptiste/Kiriko/Moira but with an added 6-10k damage on top of that so when I'm moira for example and have 12k heals 12k damage and I see a mercy with 10k heals it really feels like deadweight to me like you could have twice the impact.
Edit: I think the screenshot at 10:52 proves my point, for example the enemy moira has more heals then her with 14k and also 8.6k damage
How are these real people! Crazy
the day i stopped playing mercy on bronze was the day i got off bronze unless your gold to plat mercy should be the last character to pick
sometimes it seems to me that novice players on "mercy" cannot use "flight" correctly. As if the pseudo-simplification of "flight" only made it more difficult to learn how to play for this character.
What am I doing wrong? Playing mercy in bronze.
How do I send in my own game for a professionals critic. Need tips on how to improve
I wish i could do more damage boosting with mercy but most of my supp games are with dps moira so i have to do all the healing