How much money do World Cup hosts make?

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    Hosting a World Cup is an expensive business, it will come as no surprise. Qatar are spending an estimated $220billion to host the 2022 World Cup. But are they likely to make that money back?
    What is the benefit of hosting? What are the potential revenue streams? And is it all worth it?
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  • @Tifo
    @Tifo  ปีที่แล้ว +217

    The $200bn figure referenced in the video is in relation to Qatar's spending on the National Vision 2030 project, as opposed to solely World Cup infrastructure. The World Cup has accelerated this spend, but a Qatari spokesperson has said that - aside from $6.5bn spent on tournament-specific infrastructure - the remaining money was ‘already committed to existing projects which would have happened with or without the World Cup'.

    • @victorcsavage
      @victorcsavage ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lucky for them they won the World Cup, otherwise spending 200 billion would begin to seem silly

    • @attorneyirl2725
      @attorneyirl2725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think it's the correct thing to blame Qatar for hosting though.

    • @jerryrodriguez867
      @jerryrodriguez867 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ay 5:00 you said 2010 world cup Brazil my boy

    • @bradking9046
      @bradking9046 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jerryrodriguez867 so what

    • @carlosvega7124
      @carlosvega7124 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd like to see a video of how much FIFA makes with the World Cup

  • @nikolaskoric804
    @nikolaskoric804 ปีที่แล้ว +1373

    ''How much money did Sepp Blatter make?'' Is what I'm wondering.

    • @pratikchourasia8456
      @pratikchourasia8456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Money, properties and what not they must have given them

    • @silviofelix1991
      @silviofelix1991 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More than all of us fans 😅

    • @sokanettv9645
      @sokanettv9645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is the problem for Blatter getting money? Because even If it were you, you will love having that chance of getting what Blatter hv got

    • @wugglebee9522
      @wugglebee9522 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@sokanettv9645 Just because you want the chance to be corrupt, doesn't mean everyone else does.

    • @pratikchourasia8456
      @pratikchourasia8456 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@sokanettv9645 if you can justify corruption then what else can anyone say really

  • @AJ_25
    @AJ_25 ปีที่แล้ว +676

    No wonder Fifa wants a World Cup every 2 yrs.

    • @MahmoudKhaled
      @MahmoudKhaled ปีที่แล้ว +21

      What does fifa do with all the money !?

    • @cgopie1
      @cgopie1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't care what anyone says, I'd love a World Cup every 2 years, meaning the continental tournaments also happen every 2 years. It would mean there is football every summer. Need football when the club season is over.

    • @cdnggk6455
      @cdnggk6455 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@MahmoudKhaled thats the real question!!!! they are not uplifting or promoting football or trying improve football in non playing football countries, a governing body is taking away all the money and doing nothing, i hope nobody goes to ask for hosting WC again let the corrupt fifa officials handle it

    • @sureshambani5627
      @sureshambani5627 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@cgopie1 I am glad nobody cares what you think or like. 😂😂😂

    • @dogdog2635
      @dogdog2635 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@cgopie1 if you need football matches every part of the year you need to go outside. Think of the players and the exhaustion they’d face. It also takes away from the spectacle

  • @KillerViper16
    @KillerViper16 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    So FIFA nearly spends nothing and gets most of the revenue without paying tax. Yeah that makes sense.

    • @markusz4447
      @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      That's how every big company behaves when starting business in developing nations

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is exactly what UEFA does with the Champions League. The Super League project essentially wanted to bypass UEFA's useless middle man role so that the clubs would earn a bigger share - they are the ones paying player wages, stadium costs, security etc. after all. Yet UEFA shot down any avenues for this to change, using a coalition of pseudo-fans and media who are themselves aligned with the status quo.

    • @markusz4447
      @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@pritapp788 problem with that wasnt the missing uefa label for us fans but that it would have been a closed system without the need to qualify for participation.

    • @Otoskire
      @Otoskire ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@pritapp788 UEFA is bad but the super league was worse

    • @alealva5531
      @alealva5531 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pritapp788 What "psuedo fans" looool

  • @jovibabs1044
    @jovibabs1044 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    Right now, the IOC is finding it hard to get hosts for the Olympics due to this unfavorable hosting terms. It's going to happen to the FIFA world cup soon enough. I can't fathom why the hosts cannot get a percentage of the other revenue streams FIFA monopolizes to make the hosting worthwhile

    • @KageanRage
      @KageanRage ปีที่แล้ว +64

      the simple answer is that they currently don't have to offer that revenue percentage as they still have nations queueing up to host it. You're probably right though - they may have to start offering these sorts of terms in future, especially if they're not gonna take the sportswashing money from the likes of Qatar due to fan pressure in future.

    • @caio5987
      @caio5987 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The World Cup is better overall as it includes the whole country rather than just one city
      Also because it’s only one sport (and the most popular at that) it’s easier (ish) to spend money in rather than having to build arenas to host small sports like fencing or ping pong for example

    • @PratikChaubey23
      @PratikChaubey23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      After introduction of 48 teams, it's going to be exactly like olympics...

    • @matthewmalpeli
      @matthewmalpeli ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why not rotate the World Cup between the three and a half southern hemisphere nations that could host it in the northern summer months; Australia/New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina? Each would be able to satisfy the prime time TV slots across the three most populous regions (Europe/Africa, North/South America, Asia) and give everyone wishing to see a World Cup a guaranteed nearby host every 12 years. Planning and investment could then be designed with both the tournament and local infrastructure needs in mind with debts able to be spread across two or more tournaments instead of just one.
      For most football fans, getting to a World Cup and going to matches will always be an economic bridge too far. The best they can really hope for is one played in their timezone with games scheduled at school day friendly times. The host nation is otherwise irrelevant when a 55" 4k screen can be bought for a mere USD200.
      The street price for one ticket in the outer to a group stage fixture not involving a top ten ranked nation.

    • @Felix-op1rw
      @Felix-op1rw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or country who try to improve their image will apply to host a world cup. Same with Qatar. This could lead to that the world cup could be more often in undemocratic country.

  • @theoraexplora
    @theoraexplora ปีที่แล้ว +647

    (South African here) 2010 having of positive impact over time is more attributable to preconceptions about Africa and how the ideas changed. The country is beautiful, has beautiful people, and there's plenty to do AND our currency is relatively weak. As such, the WC opened people around the world to the country as a tourist destination because the next time they come it'll be cheaper (no WC tax and not buying tickets for games) and they can come during our summer as well. Additionally, hosting the WC meant our ineffectual government couldn't slip up so they put their best foot forward - they have continued to disappoint since.

    • @Smitt01999
      @Smitt01999 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      South Africa was by far the best show the world cup has offered. The only time where I thought it was actually a cultural phenomenon with the Vuvuzelas, music and general atmosphere.

    • @dogdog2635
      @dogdog2635 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Smitt01999 waka waka and wavin’ flag 😍

    • @theoraexplora
      @theoraexplora ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Smitt01999 yea, best kind of country for a World Cup.

    • @abutimelanin
      @abutimelanin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spitting facts

    • @vbthings
      @vbthings ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the way i saw it, we had a expensive party but at least we benefitted from what was spent unlike now where they steal everything

  • @incognito_donut
    @incognito_donut ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That is BS that host country doesn't get a share of ticket sales... Not even 10%!? Fifa is corrupt!

    • @FaustoTheBoozehound
      @FaustoTheBoozehound ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that everything is tax-exempt. Absolutely disgusting.

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUM ปีที่แล้ว +105

    0:10 a reminder that the 2022 edition was assigned to Qatar back in 2010 as well. It feels like ages ago

    • @soccer68541
      @soccer68541 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel so old, I was only 10 at time.

    • @lokesk9938
      @lokesk9938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soccer68541 happy 22nd birthday 🎉

  • @coleymissions
    @coleymissions ปีที่แล้ว +31

    all I can say about South Africa hosting that 2010 World Cup is that it was the greatest time I've ever experienced.

  • @dominikukawski7096
    @dominikukawski7096 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This isn't about the world cup but rather the euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine. I live in one of the cities where a new stadium and infrastructure was build to host the euros and while a lot of people complained about it being a waste of money. The new infrastructure and especially the new roads and motorways build helped massively, for example some places outside the city it used to take up to 30 to 40min to drive into the city but thanks to the new roads in now takes around 15 min to get to the centre. It's one of those things that's easily taken for granted because it's such a minor thing that people are used to they don't take into account that it was due to us co-hosting the euros. Although the roads around the stadium are still a huge headache to get around.

    • @BenjaminKeller
      @BenjaminKeller ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Okey yes, but if FIFA isn’t contributing anyway, countries could just do big infrastructure renovation. No need for FIFA.

  • @abhishek.sharma
    @abhishek.sharma ปีที่แล้ว +49

    That subtle inclusion of Bergkamp goal in the background..🙌🏻🙌🏻😍

  • @khotsodirane600
    @khotsodirane600 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    No country really makes money from the world cup if we're being honest

  • @bharatavarsha10k
    @bharatavarsha10k ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I always wanted India to host The Olympics, FIFA World Cup and a many other events... But But.., It looks like it would be better to have a Strong Football League with big stadia, so that we don't need to spend big on Infrastructure when the time comes 😂😂😂

    • @Snookbone
      @Snookbone ปีที่แล้ว +9

      stadiums

    • @man4437
      @man4437 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I'm not an expert on the (massive) country of India, but if Brazil is anything to go by, I don't imagine it'll go too well for a country with developing infrastructure, huge, dense population etc

    • @TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
      @TheOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ปีที่แล้ว +18

      India tried hosting the 2010 commonwealth games. It didn't go well.

    • @rejectivity
      @rejectivity ปีที่แล้ว +6

      India currently are bidding to host the Asian Cup I believe.

    • @xlpha888
      @xlpha888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao most of money will be lost to corruption. Nah dont want us to host such an event.

  • @theoraexplora
    @theoraexplora ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I totally expected the Russia point to be: "After the 2018 WC, Russia reported they finally had enough money and goodwill to start expanding their territory once more"

    • @bryanngdawei3282
      @bryanngdawei3282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well granted Zelensky only got elected in 2019.

    • @ahmedkurdish3006
      @ahmedkurdish3006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Broo💀

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 ปีที่แล้ว

      Retaking what theirs. Isnt football all about history from ages ago?🤣🪦

    • @FaustoTheBoozehound
      @FaustoTheBoozehound ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eavyeavy2864 Not theirs. Never was. Ukraine is its own nation with its own history and culture, despite what Ruzzian propaganda might have you think.

  • @rollerblaide5103
    @rollerblaide5103 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    fifa is finessing the whole world

    • @donandres10
      @donandres10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same as UEFA, that's why they are against the super league.

  • @druidmann
    @druidmann ปีที่แล้ว +122

    fifa is going to run out of nations that will bid for the world cup very soon. unless they want to have a gulf country host every other world cup, witch would destroy any semblance of a global tournament and ruin there already diminished image, they're going to have to open up some revenue and taxation to entice countries outside of the dozen or so that always bid

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Maybe they could start making it like Euro 2020? You have multiple stadiums across the World hosting games, but then one of those stadiums hosts the final stages

    • @neilmartin7776
      @neilmartin7776 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The IOC have already found this out, as the list of countries willing to sign up for an Olympics gets shorter each time.

    • @jeromeclemente3672
      @jeromeclemente3672 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think it'll be more of a problem for the Olympics. I dont think this World Cup gravy train will slow down anytime soon.

    • @stevel9627
      @stevel9627 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not if its multiple countries hosting them which is what we're seeing starting with the USA/CAN/MEX one where stadiums are already built. They just need to be co hosted in countries with stadiums already in place

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeromeclemente3672 yeah, I mean, we know that Los Angeles will host the 2028 ones because only them and Paris were bidding for 2024 so they got the next one to the loser, and Brisbane was awarded the 2032 Olympics 11 years in advance, so they have more time to do anything

  • @TommyJoeSausages
    @TommyJoeSausages ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Forgot to mention the additional costs of all those FIFA bribes 😀

    • @uddiwiw8277
      @uddiwiw8277 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fifa is not charity
      They need money

    • @hsthatzo8063
      @hsthatzo8063 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uddiwiw8277 Just like the poison jab companies

    • @abcbcacba
      @abcbcacba ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@uddiwiw8277 yea but what to they do with it? No taxes and they keep 100% of the billions of dollars from tickets, tv rights, shirt sales etc, while not spending a single dollar on building stadiums or paying for anything. They are literally just sitting and getting billions of dollars for free.

    • @sekouyansane3291
      @sekouyansane3291 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uddiwiw8277 no way you're defending FIFA?, Look how Brazil and South Africa still have empty abandoned stadiums. FIFA is greedy and the host country takes on most of the cost.

    • @zulfika_
      @zulfika_ ปีที่แล้ว

      How many empy abandoned stadium? Brazil govt is stupid, why they build in the city that doesn't have top team even tho they know that they're so many team in sao paulo?

  • @abutimelanin
    @abutimelanin ปีที่แล้ว +47

    South Africa being said to greatly benefit is partly true… If you look twelves on (today). We have declined incredibly. The infrastructure isn’t as well maintained anymore.

    • @vitshn
      @vitshn ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Definitely a few white elephants but, Soccer City, Mose Mabida and Green Point are all in good use and well maintained

    • @TaCoTuesTay
      @TaCoTuesTay ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@vitshn Cape Town also still has MyCiti busses running, which has been amazing since 2010

    • @jan7539
      @jan7539 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The gautrain is too expensive for the poor to commute with too. And the stadiums don't attract crowds that would fill their capacity, except with National team matches

    • @jan7539
      @jan7539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have to add that I meant Springbok (rugby) matches. I am unaware of Bafana (football) attendances. The Springboks had 98.91% capacity over the 6 games played locally in 2022 so far. The league attendances is nowhere near that

    • @abutimelanin
      @abutimelanin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jan7539 Check the attendance for the Bafana match vs Sierra Leone this past weekend.

  • @philipslattery2883
    @philipslattery2883 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Quick answer is no. The book Soccernomics cover this very well. South Africa 2010, Brazil 2014, Poland/Ukraine 2012 spent billions and saw very little income. Same can be said for the Olympics.

  • @americansoccerunited
    @americansoccerunited ปีที่แล้ว +11

    FIFA spends nothing on the WC and keep most if not all of the profits... INSANE!

  • @og_praxis17
    @og_praxis17 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Good video guys! I think what we're missing is 'why do countries do it then?' Which is the obvious next question. From a perspective of local politics, it seems that these mega sporting events mostly serve as an opportunity to allow for an upward transfer of wealth, especially in developing nations. That's how many view the Olympics so it would have been great to see if the World Cup was any different

    • @EvilFinian
      @EvilFinian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ego and graft (corruption)

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 ปีที่แล้ว

      From who to who exactly

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EvilFinian pauper 3rd world

    • @og_praxis17
      @og_praxis17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eavyeavy2864 the way it worked in London was to force land sales via changes in the law, then use government backed loans to develop on the new area, and finally sell off the facilities after the event took place. So it was moving money from poor communities to wealthy investors all facilitated by the government.

  • @RobertRotte1
    @RobertRotte1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

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    • @casinosimsek2027
      @casinosimsek2027 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @mav3420
      @mav3420 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @casinosimsek2027
      @casinosimsek2027 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @mav3420
      @mav3420 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @eddiejohn8506
      @eddiejohn8506 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @trishennaidoo1309
    @trishennaidoo1309 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    2010 world cups in Brazil and South Africa must of being quite a year 🐧🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @josearuba
      @josearuba ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also noticed that 😅😅😅

  • @alfieowen2014
    @alfieowen2014 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Another factor is if the county is already a big footballing nation, England Spain Germany etc. all of them won’t have to spend money on infrastructure as its already there ready to use!

    • @skoczek777
      @skoczek777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's not also a problem for countries that just can afford it. Like South Korea and Japan in 2002 or United States in 1994. Even if in the second example many stadium were just deconstructed.
      Brazil in 2014 is interesting example, because I think it can be banned big football nation, but there were many doubts if they can afford it.

    • @dontmindme6995
      @dontmindme6995 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@skoczek777 But I mean how many more countries are there that can afford it and arent a big football nation yet? China maybe, but that would get as much criticism as Qatar. Perhaps Australia or Canada, but that might be it. WCs in europe are just the easiest and most obvious solutions

    • @alfieowen2014
      @alfieowen2014 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skoczek777 yeah that’s why i said etc they were the first 3 that came to mind, Brazil is the weird one, I think I remember seeing someone people wanted and some people didn’t so with confit in interests it probably was going to work out great for them

    • @Nat.ali.a
      @Nat.ali.a ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skoczek777 here in Brasil the problem was not to afford it. It is because Brasil is big, right? So in the north and center of the country football is not a big thing, and they decided to make the World Cup in all regions of Brazil, that would mean build an stadium in the middle of Amazon or in the Pantanal and those stadiums wouldn’t be self sufficient in the following years because games wouldn’t happen there. Brazil had a almost ready infrastructure but corrupt government wanted to build new stadium so they can steal money. That is why Brazilians were mad about it

    • @archive4059
      @archive4059 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nat.ali.a What do you mean by: "here in Brasil the problem was not to afford it" Brazil after WC was in 3.5B debt...

  • @katenga21
    @katenga21 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would love to hear a part 2, what happens after world cup and country losses

  • @paullxulu3371
    @paullxulu3371 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The world cup in SA was a major economic boom to even countries around the region. Hug tracks of cement used to go to SA during the construction of stadium.

  • @oliverhughes610
    @oliverhughes610 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fifa should agree revenue sharing deals with the host nations. Winners should receive money invested into their respective footballing system.

  • @giteausuperstar
    @giteausuperstar ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would love to know what fifa actually spends all its money on…other than handing out to its officials.

  • @roym2185
    @roym2185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would be great to see the estimates of what countries lost each World Cup financially. A chart of the profit/loss to show the scale of the issue. To actually estimate the losses of each country.
    A relevant but maybe smaller point is how suicides drop during these major events. A crude analysis would show the costs of losing the extra people that year too. It’s an interesting point in itself tho somewhat sensitive.

  • @pritapp788
    @pritapp788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They don't, Brazil for example spent $13.5 billion on the 2014 World Cup that were only partly recouped. The rest is "maybe we will get more visitors in future years, publicity etc.". It's FIFA who pockets the income and profits, not the hosts.

  • @wickedgamerwizard1105
    @wickedgamerwizard1105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i think hosting a world cup it never really about money it about promoting your country and boost tourism that helps the countrys economy

  • @nattshiimi1517
    @nattshiimi1517 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @tankisomakhetha2836
    @tankisomakhetha2836 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    And that’s why the 2010 World Cup was one of the best in the history of World Cups

    • @solanumlinnaeanum2484
      @solanumlinnaeanum2484 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vuvuzelas says Hi

    • @tankisomakhetha2836
      @tankisomakhetha2836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@solanumlinnaeanum2484 probably the best part of that World Cup edition😉

    • @solanumlinnaeanum2484
      @solanumlinnaeanum2484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tankisomakhetha2836 Vuvuzelas should be cast into the 8th level of Dante's Inferno. Just one level above those god-awful 'clappers' that Leicester and Fulham had.

    • @tankisomakhetha2836
      @tankisomakhetha2836 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solanumlinnaeanum2484 😂😂😂

  • @sdeepj
    @sdeepj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Edmonton was supposed to host matches for 2026, but the City withdrew their bid when FIFA refused to have knockout matches in the city. And FIFA refused other demands made by the city

  • @fitculturebyrichardmorris6223
    @fitculturebyrichardmorris6223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well made doc's! Keep up the great work 😎

  • @aubreydebruyn84
    @aubreydebruyn84 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    South africa has never had a tourism issue, with its wildlife and weather. In the book Soccernomics,the author points out how most of the staduims are whites elephants,.The biggest teams in South Africa ( chiefs, pirates and sundowns) hardly reach 50% capacity on matchday unless playing amongst each other. This leads to taxpayers fitting the bill. Those thousands were temporarily jobs. The $2bn would best spent on schools, hospitals and universities which is long term.

    • @simphiwe4885
      @simphiwe4885 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me when the construction corruption stories started coming out it was my first look into just how corrupt South Africa is, ANC politicians made big money

    • @hello-friend990
      @hello-friend990 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree at least they spent that $2bn on tangible things. I don't trust that govt to spend it wisely without the public attention

  • @letsgo8814
    @letsgo8814 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also the South africa Rugby team ( No.1 in the world ) uses these stadiums when they have their home games and often sell out these 60 000 sized stadiums...
    The stadiums are also used for Events from Music to church conferences and also other sports like the Rugby league.
    Thanks for covering RSA

  • @kristi4113
    @kristi4113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d like to see this type of video about our 2026 hosting in North America.

  • @Patrick61804
    @Patrick61804 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2026 World Cup might be a different story, because many leagues have training facilities from the NFL which is not in season at that time. Also a large amount of hotels all across the country.

    • @vidalrodriguez2001
      @vidalrodriguez2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Costs will definitely be a lot less for 2026 for sure

  • @00dude3
    @00dude3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's absolutely criminal England/UK has only hosted the world cup once

  • @markusz4447
    @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Italy (atleast the Serie A clubs) would benefit from hosting one. Most stadiums are so run down that they need massive investments. Especially looking at possible host cities like Naples, Roma, Milan, Palermo, Verona.
    I know there are projects for Milan and Roma but they don't appear to be starting anytime soon.

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but who will fund those projects? FIFA doesn't provide any funding. It would need to be private funding - which is not as readily available as in England or Germany - or the worse solution of all: the taxpayer.

    • @scepticrat
      @scepticrat ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, seems like the conclusion from the video is that it's generally not a very profitable idea. I'm sure Italy generates plenty of tourism revenue; many of those cities may see negative tourism if they hosted WC games.

    • @markusz4447
      @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scepticrat i don't think that holds true for italy as most of its tourism in summer takes place in smaller beach towns/villages. I really think the amount of people not visiting a city like rome around a worldcup is neglible when compared to the long time benefits

    • @markusz4447
      @markusz4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pritapp788 yes the privat funding is not really there. As I said the Serie A clubs and the tifosi would benefit. It has to come from tax payers which is only really possible with such events. Is would see long term infrastructural benefits outweigh the costs though.

  • @XaloGunner
    @XaloGunner ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's been going around my head a lot has been what will happen to Qatar's stadiums AFTER the event...Like, not sure Qatar or even Russia and South Africa recently have the league/footballing need for those stadiums...unless I'm unaware of something...Or, generally what happens to purpose-built stadiums like these in World Cup/Euro host sites? Maybe a video idea?

  • @fikriamali6236
    @fikriamali6236 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fifa should and must share their revenue to the host next time. They are making billion every event

  • @sandisiwentshoko6680
    @sandisiwentshoko6680 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After watching this, I wonder why any country would host the World Cup 🤔

  • @GTM9164
    @GTM9164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the time comes you guys should do a comparison video on 2026 WC vs 2022 WC cost bc its complete 180 with one nation building all new stadiums to three countries barely needing to do any renovations

    • @shawnzorf
      @shawnzorf ปีที่แล้ว

      And add Chile/Argentina/Uruguay/Paraguay 2030 bid if it is successful. None of those countries has a stadium that meet FIFA standards to host the WC. And they just have less than 8 years to build/refurbish stadiums.

  • @Utd_anchan
    @Utd_anchan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cant wait for the World Cup 🥲🤩

  • @vidalrodriguez2001
    @vidalrodriguez2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have to wonder how much the 2026 World Cup is going to cost, I can imagine significantly less than the last two editions and maybe even less than Brazil, as the stadium infrastructure, training camps, and accommodations already exist or have been planned to or have already been built, especially in the US and Canada where many different forces are pulling for their cities to develop, and not just to prepare for the WC but after it’s over. Most of the spending would probably go towards supporting infrastructure, with only a few stadiums needing to be revamped some, accommodated for grass turf, and none have to be built from scratch compared to the past 4 editions of the tournament.

  • @bongs_esc
    @bongs_esc ปีที่แล้ว +10

    South Africa 🇿🇦😏 well the only people benefiting are the elite but unemployment is at an all time high and infrastructure is not maintained and improved but left to decay

    • @koena4lyf
      @koena4lyf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We had a legacy fund set for SAFA by FIFA. Our football still got worse.

    • @whitewitch2511
      @whitewitch2511 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unemployment has nothing to do with football events. hosting a World Cup is temporary

    • @bongs_esc
      @bongs_esc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whitewitch2511 not surprised you’re calling yourself “white witch” 👀

  • @armchairecon
    @armchairecon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did a small project one semester on this related to the olympics the year I did my master’s in economics , it was unrelated to my actual dissertation but it was interesting to see that hosting these tournaments is a net loss as accepted in most research. More countries are looking towards the direction of joint hosting or not hosting at all. There is a lot of literature on the phenomenon, it almost certainly becomes a sideshow of soft power, and other geopolitical aims via sport, given who is left bidding.

  • @utternonsenseproductions2415
    @utternonsenseproductions2415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just after 5 minutes you mention building a stadium in Brazil for WC 2010. Just a heads up

  • @zipple41
    @zipple41 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's factor in that home-field advantage is a real thing. And aside from the normal home-field advantage phenomenon, you get treated as a #1 seed for group stage purposes. This is especially attractive to lower-tier teams. This year, Qatar is essentially able to kick a #1-tier team out of their group and replace them with a #4-tier team. This is obviously massive.

  • @eddy562
    @eddy562 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Missed out the biggest revenue stream. The under the table payment

  • @daveoaktowers
    @daveoaktowers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The criteria for winning the hosting of the world cup should change. You should have a minimum of existing suitable stadia or require upgrades that benefit the club ie new stand etc, facilities that can upscale, training facilities and the infrastructure that could cope but might require temporary upscale for the tournament.
    Rather than build a huge set of infrastructure that may not even be used fully post tournament. Saddling that country with debt which never goes down well with those who are not football fans.

  • @killercaos123
    @killercaos123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FIFA is BIGGG on their alcohol ads. Qatar has ONE liquor store in the nation. Located in the capital, Doha of course. This is a giant friction point between the host nation and FIFA. Gotta wonder how this specific point will play out

  • @iceman4660
    @iceman4660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Football is about business. The game is incidental. Yet another reason to watch amateur and non-league football.
    I would rather the World Cup is never hosted by the UK. In any event with the increase in teams no single country will be able to afford it.

  • @fizz113
    @fizz113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's stopping people from rebelling and creating a new international football board that offers greater benefit to the host nation?

  • @tatakaee_
    @tatakaee_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why does FIFA take all these money? for what? and what do they do with it?

  • @maya6609
    @maya6609 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fifa spends nothing during the world cup while the host nation takes all the burden and gets approximately nothing? In this life, no balance😂😂😂

  • @brighte5809
    @brighte5809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TLDR.
    Host nations going into debt hosting the world cup and only South Africa can be considered the only profitable host in the past 2 decades.

  • @wearefanstv8994
    @wearefanstv8994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm South African. The World Cup isn't worth it in my opinion. We are a struggling country and always seem to have money when things like World Cups or such events come up. But never when we have to feed the poor, build houses and get people education and basic things. The stadium are never full and just serve as a reminder that we can do better but just won't.
    But thanks Tifo for continuously improving top level content and I absolutely love the voice-over performance. Keep up the great work and please make more videos that touch on African football.

  • @ignaciopazgarcia5370
    @ignaciopazgarcia5370 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats why I think Spain or Spain + Portugal should host the 2030 WC. Literally Spain does not have to build nothing. This would allow for any investment to go on just nice organization and especial events. It already has world-class stadiums and world class infrstructure. As it recieves a whopping 85 million tourist a year, it is used to large crowds. Plus, it has great accommodation and hoteal, great weather, and the 2nd largest high-speed train network in the world. Let's pray for Spain 2030!

    • @rhowell1978
      @rhowell1978 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately they do, several stadiums owned by the local governments will need expensive upgrades and capacity increases.

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Post World Cup in South Africa things went so wrong. High unemployment, crime getting out of control, corruption, Bafana Bafana being the laughing stock of football with never ending mediocrity, energy crisis and now under the microscope in tourism when a German tourist was gunned down. To say South Africa truly benefited from hosting the World Cup is an understatement.

    • @whitewitch2511
      @whitewitch2511 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uyaphapha wena. there's no need for you to write nonsense

  • @qemal16
    @qemal16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope all nation realize this and not bidding for world cup host at all until fifa share some of the money

  • @ProducoesBatata
    @ProducoesBatata ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vamo lá pra mais um.

  • @satyamsangal6659
    @satyamsangal6659 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So basically fifa gets to keep all the money with 0 accountability.
    What do they do with it??

  • @dexter10051
    @dexter10051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing I like about the 2026 world cup is that USA, Mexico, and Canada, already have the stadiums built (mostly NFL stadiums) and the Canada and Mexico stadiums 🏟 are already built, and won't be destroyed, I don't believe the airports in the 3 countries would need upgrades, and the host cities already have enough Hotels, can't wait for 2026!

  • @jrisner6535
    @jrisner6535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surely worth mentioning that in Russia the country may have lost money, but huge amounts were syphoned off for bureaucratic profit

  • @elgc123
    @elgc123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So in summary, we learnt that FIFA is even more corrupt and predatory than we thought.

  • @jzlnz
    @jzlnz ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally the money spend to host a sporting event will supersede the money being generated for the event itself . Its just glamour and long term exposure for the cities and country that host the event which not easy to translate into dollar & cents.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long story short: FIFA takes all the money, the host nation is left all the expenses and with intangible benefits.

  • @believeinbuffalo
    @believeinbuffalo ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they develop some public transportation for the 2026 WC esp for the games being held in Texas, etc.

  • @dakeved
    @dakeved ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if hosting the World Cup is not really profitable for the host nation, the next question is, why do they all want to host it? Especially rich nations, what do they really get from it?

  • @RickyMasterChiefLaw
    @RickyMasterChiefLaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    woah then why are hosting countries offering up themselves

  • @jmtz3149
    @jmtz3149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if 2026 will see a profit. We already have the stadiums. Idk how much will need to be spent on public transport and accommodations tho.

  • @Glimpsesinthedark
    @Glimpsesinthedark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video missed out the most intresting bit... 'so why do countries want to hold the world cup?'

  • @AKUNJIG
    @AKUNJIG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's why to this day, The 94' WC is the most profitable World Cup.

  • @estonian44
    @estonian44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video, so the question in my mind is, why would any1 actually host the fifa wc, ending with loss, qatar could buy 10 football clubs and pay social media influencers or smth to make ads, i dont get why Qatar even want to spend 220billion for nothing. - after reading the pinned comment, Qatar only spends 6.5bn bcause of the wc - exclusively, still i dont get why people would want to host the WC

  • @mfundonkosi6927
    @mfundonkosi6927 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is this model fair for host countries? FIFA seems to be the one winning and the host countries losing.

  • @Goofy8907
    @Goofy8907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it worth it?
    For all the people taking a slice from the 220B laundry bin its of course worth it, like what kind of question is this?

  • @bibashshrestha3651
    @bibashshrestha3651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's going to be good for the USA in 2026 as they already have a well-developed infrastructure like venues, airports, hotels, and all other things needed for a massive event

  • @stephenpalmer9375
    @stephenpalmer9375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you have to ask, other than some kind of intangible, like prestige, why do countries even bother? And ironically, they actually have all the leverage. If every country just said 'f*** it' and didn't bid - then FIFA would have to rethink and potentially offer more equitable terms.

    • @Taeerom
      @Taeerom ปีที่แล้ว

      "Prestige" (or whatever word you might use, legitimacy might be another) might be intangible, but is still very important. Qatar doesn't host the WC to make money, but as an extension of their sports-washing program. It's why they also own PSG. They don't think they will make much money on making PSG a footballing superpower, but they believe it will make them more popular in the eyes of the rest of the world.
      Russia hosted the WC for similar reasons. Russia has struggled with being viewed as a has-been for a while, and the WC then a quick successful war in Ukraine would make sure they would be considered a superpower again. (too bad for them, that the Ukraine part of the plan didn't work out).
      The US motivation for hosting WC would be, I presume, a way to anounce to the world that football in the US is a real thing. The country might not make any money from it. But I believe that the owners of MLS would benefit greatly in the long term as they promote MLS both domestically and abroad. As US policy is 90% dictated by te ones with money, it doesn't matter that the country loses, as long as the billionaire owners of MLS clubs benefit.

  • @ericng7656
    @ericng7656 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Title should be how much Fifa makes. Cause the host country obviously don't

  • @andorrasrevenge1683
    @andorrasrevenge1683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It just goes to show “sometimes countries just wanna big soccer party”.( in Joe voice).

  • @AutopilotAndChill
    @AutopilotAndChill ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is why having a WC or Olympics in your country isn’t worth it. Your country doesn’t come out ahead. Honestly I’d rather not have the either of those in the USA ever again.

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 ปีที่แล้ว

      World cup is cheap when all the infrastructure is already there eg UK/US/France/Germany etc

  • @matthewmalpeli
    @matthewmalpeli ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IMHO, Australia, South Africa and (if they ever get their pesos in order) Argentina should become the permanent hosts of the World Cup on a rotational basis. All are southern hemisphere nations, which means the Cup would always be played in conditions suitable for the sport. It would make hosting the event economically viable as nations could plan upgrades to stadiums and infrastructure across twelve years and debt repayments across 24 years or more and while Argentina's a conquered territory for football, It's somewhat further down the totem pole in both Australia and South Africa, meeting FIFA's charter requirement of using the World Cup to promote the sport in regions where it gets little attention or love.
    With South Africa within Europe's time zones, Australia in Asia's and Argentina in The America's, the World Cup will always play at a TV viewer friendly timeslot (and travel distance friendly location) once every twelve years, something that football fans of all locations and socioeconomic backgrounds will appreciate and be able to plan for.
    And I would like to see a World Cup Final played in that gargantuan structure in Melbourne that the locals call "The G", just once... I saw Australia take on Italy in the 2000 Sydney Olympics in front of 95,000 spectators and it proved a venue fit for a much more important fixture than an Olympic group game.
    Should one of those three hosting nations opt out or become unable to host, FIFA can always go back to the bidding process. My feeling is that they won't have to and that each tournament will be far better than the ones that preceded them

    • @schwi5425
      @schwi5425 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s not exactly fair to anyone who isn’t from one of those three countries

  • @Patrick61804
    @Patrick61804 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At least it isn’t the Olympics

  • @Yippie37
    @Yippie37 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:42 Regarding the creation of jobs, it is debatable that government spending can increase the number of jobs. This is because like you said, it is paid by taxpayers, so what you are really doing is just reallocating jobs/resources in the economy, not actually creating them (becoming more productive). For example, money that we would've all spent in say, clothes (and same for all other sectors that we spend money in), is now being spent on public works, so the clothing sector suffers on growth and job creation. This doesn't show up in the stats, it only shows the new jobs created, but not the jobs that "could've been".

  • @lurpi5631
    @lurpi5631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cada vez que veo videos de este canal, cosa que me gustan, deseo con todas mis fuerzas no tener vida para ver a Inglaterra campeón de nada, menos que menos de una copa mundial.
    Every time I watch videos of this channel, which I really like, I wish with all my might that I would never live to see England champion of anything, least of all a world cup.

  • @HussainAlabudeeb
    @HussainAlabudeeb ปีที่แล้ว

    @5:10 there is a mistake I think. 2010 in brazil :)

  • @StuckInProgrammers
    @StuckInProgrammers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I knew FIFA was a racket, but this somehow made my distaste for it grow. I can’t believe they share NOTHING with the host countries!

  • @s0l0r1d4
    @s0l0r1d4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess that's why most of the recent offers sent to FIFA are by multiple countries

  • @LegendNinja41
    @LegendNinja41 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The costs for specifically hosting the World Cup are $10bn not $220bn, most of the $220bn is for other purposes, Qatar wants to radically change it's country that money, better infrastructure, better connectivity etc., modernisation from top to bottom.
    It's strange how barely anyone in journalism and media can get this easy fact right. Is Framing being used here??

    • @suh-guy
      @suh-guy ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all for the world cup.
      More hotels, transport to the stadiums.
      More touristy buildings.
      Housing poor people out of sight.
      Sports facilities for other sports.
      Airports to absorb the fans.
      Etc...

    • @LegendNinja41
      @LegendNinja41 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suh-guy these projects help with the world cup but would have been done regardless even if they would not hold the event as they said themselfs.
      Qatar also wants to strenghten it's tourism sector which is underdeveloped compared to the UAE.

  • @martinkf
    @martinkf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always and surprising no one, I'm ashamed and sad about having had the unfortunate fate of being born a brazilian.

  • @edwindano
    @edwindano ปีที่แล้ว

    Sepp Blatter was once having dinner with world leaders and CEOs, he tells Gianni Infantino the most powerful person in this room is the US president and then him.

  • @briann6205
    @briann6205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Due to rising capital costs it will only be hosted by countries with existing facilities-- this is for the better.

  • @NikozBG
    @NikozBG ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly after watching this video, The world cup started looking like a scam to me. It feels like the same as these travel "influencers" that want to be given tickets and hotel room stays for free in exchange of "exposure".

  • @shaqtaku
    @shaqtaku ปีที่แล้ว

    what will they do with those stadia after the WC??

  • @iatwiatw
    @iatwiatw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ONLY benefit - incentive to improve infrastructure - is not even related to football at all. It just shows that leaders and governments need some stupid motivation to do something that they should be doing anyway.
    Not Tifo’s fault, but goddamn I didn’t expect to end up being this sad and frustrated because of a football video.

  • @VikasPandeyYouTube
    @VikasPandeyYouTube ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hope India never hosts world cup even if we start qualifying for it

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably gonna happen anyways. Maybe the Women's World Cup first though.

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Build up a few good footballing generations. You have the population, talent potential and growing interest.

    • @rejectivity
      @rejectivity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DamnedUnitedStand India are already bidding to host the Asian Cup. Only wait for AFC to decide tho.

  • @BlacksmithCinema
    @BlacksmithCinema ปีที่แล้ว

    So if it's such a loss-making event why is it so competitive in the bidding process?