We recently bought a two-year old La Prima (top spec) model in the UK. Around about half the original price, so quite a lot of depreciation - but I think that is just the market right now. And we absolutely love, love, love it. We also have a Hyundai Ioniq 6 as our primary car, so the Fiat fits beautifully into the family. It’s been on some long day trips recently (as the I6 was out of action), do close to 400 miles in a day, and aside from more charge stops (compare to the I6), it has handled the wonderfully. Lots of personality, easy and fun to drive, still “perky” despite the low-ish power, and so damn cute to look at. No regrets.
Love my 2018 Fiat and would absolutely buy this... Used. The styling is on point. The problem is that the small car gets great gas mileage, but sort of the opposite effect when it's electric and loses battery space. I've never once used the back seat, it would be nice to have an option for battery expansion or something to replace that space. Very happy to see a review from a fan and not somebody who doesn't get it. We'd all be safer if we drove small cars.
@@JakeRichardsong not about efficiency, but thanks for trying to evangelize. The gas 500 can go 300+ miles on a tank, while the electric is below half that on a charge.
Had this car for the day in Madrid. Fantastic car compared to the equivalent 1 litre fossil rental car. Big tv and double the power for easy high speed motoring.
J - you loaded a ton of pertinent info into 46 mins, and a well-done production. Professional work and straight talk. The car: Italian flair with “enough” Zip to stay safe, and - Oh, yeah, FUN! These have City-appeal, no doubt. Exciting times for Motor Heads - hard to keep up with the DAILY innovations. 👍🏿👍🏿🙏🏻👊
I watched a video that pointed out drum brakes were only an issue with excessive use, but were really good at keeping the brake sealed from moisture preventing rust. Perfect for EV applications.
To be honest, I’m impressed by the style of this damned car. To me, the car is a small car for urban transportation. I’m a country man living in Hertfordshire.
I'm living about a mile from the center in a town in Germany of some 600.000. I do have a garage with a door some 15" wider and 5" higher than the 500e Cabrio I have. This little car is so much fun especially with the top down. I use it for somewhat longer trips of some 250 miles every now and then and need one 30 minute charging stop (conveniently at a Mc Donalds) and another 10 Minutes stop close to home to be on the safe side. Visiting my mother in a village some 50 miles away is easy. Charging from the 220V 10A power outlet in my garage takes some 30h from 10 to 100% but usually I don't care, charging over night is enough for my daily needs. In the city it's a fun car for my single household. It's certainly good enough for the suburbs, too.
I've had my 500e Icon trim since 2022 in the UK and hands down been the best built fiat ive ever had and so much fun to drive in town. Great for the work commute. This is also the third variant of the 500 model ive had (Abarth 595, 500 sport)
It is a stylish car, I Like the Convertible 500E. The full electric Fiat 500 E is a lot larger than the former gas and hybrid Versions, comfortable seating is possible with a 6.2" size. 😁. A great electric retro car for the metropolitan areas.
On the lack of frunk - I at least want a small lockable storage area that isn't visible through the windows to hold the "things every car should have" - the can of fix-a-flat and tire inflator, the mobile charge cord, a first aid kit, and room to store a purse. The microscopic Hyundai/Kia frunks are fine. Just enough space for a hatchback. Less needed on a sedan, but every EV with an "open to the cabin" storage area should have a frunk.
Same here my popsicle orange 2013 500e is still a delight to drive every day and even with 82K miles on the clock the battery still can comfortably manage a 60 mile freeway round-trip or even an 80 miler if there's a lot of non-freeway driving!
Cool to see my car; I also have the 500e RED edition. But then in the European trim. I LOVE it and call it my Urban Tesla. Totally agree with the joy and personality of driving it. And I also agree with the inability to set my charge value. In addition I can’t see charge speeds in the car. Over the air updates do come but very irregular. Apart from that ; it’s perfect! ❤❤❤ Also fantastic video!
Good review. People spend so much money on accommodations that only apply to 2% of their life. Gotta have a dedicated guest bedroom for the 1-2 times a year someone actually stays at the house. Gotta have a 300 mile range EV for the 1-2 times a year you drive more than 30 miles a day. Gotta have a pickup truck for the 1-2 times a year you actually need to haul something that won't fit in a car. That's what rentals are for.
If I was someone could afford to have 2 cars, this would be a great second car. The whole "daily driver" car was foreign to me until watching more of these car videos.
I have a gas Fiat 500 Pop hatchback with back hitch for cargo basket. Never once did I wish for a larger car. Going on 12 years and on to 30 if car prices keep going up. I looked and motorcycle parts are more expensive than mine.
I think the new Fiat 500e has an LFP battery, which is why there is no option to stop at 80%. It's unnecessary and also LFP needs occasional 100% charges (either for health or calibration).
Hey Andrew, there's no need to buckle up in the back seat on the Cinquecento (tell your friend it's not CinqueNcento) as you don't shake that much back there do you? Greetings from Italy.
I bought my Fiat 500 in 2012. I still have it, I still love it. Took me to Canada mountains to Arizona, to Florida, to Washington DC. NOTHING ever happened to it. 136k mines so far. Would probably consider an electric upgrade but they don't offer classic legendary Fiat colors. Only yellow for me
The car is like 16 weeks late and the original plan was you could order back in October/November 2023 with a December but mostly January delivery date - not sure what dealerships/outlets will be selling these cars seeing FIAT was meant to close all their dealerships in the USA
@@lawnmowerdudethe problem with that the sales force sells people that walk through the door one of there cars and one that will make them a lot more money vs a 500 any day
re: charging levels (13m into the video): At my office the 40A breaker gets tripped all the time by cars trying to draw power too fast from our shared and free to use Level 2 chargers. Being able to step-down the draw when using a shared public charger is a GREAT idea . . especially if you're not being charged by the minute and can leave the car plugged in for a few hours. The Tesla vehicles at our office can automatically adjust their power draw downward, consequently they don't trip that breaker. But the rest of us - Ford, Hyundai, BMW etc vehicles we all trip the breaker sometimes.
It's cool, the design is good and it's nice to have a small car option. But heck, just like the Mini, it's a tough sell at the price & range. You really are paying for the styling and size.
Interestingly this model has a lot more options for the headlights on the left stalk. In the European models one of the biggest annoyances with this car is that there was no way to turn off the headlights. You only had the options AUTO and headlights ON. So in the US version you can finally turn off the lights. 😂
Problem selling a car like this in America, it has a very enthusiastic but small demand. When a new model comes out they initially sell well, but everyone who wants one quickly get theirs then the demand evaporates rather quickly.
I wish they had made it rear/mid motor ... I loved the rear-engine Fiat cars from the 50s thru the 80s (growing up with older Skodas, Tatras, and Polki Fiats I always thought the best place for the engine was in the rear - that's just me ... I just can't get used to a FWD Fiat 500 even though it's been around for a while and it's on a new platform, etc. etc.. Same went for the new Beetle from the 90s.
I very much regret NOT keeping my 500e after the lease was up. It was just the perfect car for my daily drives. can't wait to test drive the new 'proper' 500e to see how much better a purpose built machine would be compared to the conversion model the old 500e was.
Another awesome video from Jordan, really like the quality improvement. As for the car everything about it is fine except the price, Fiats were always about value not quality, this doesn't have neither. The only thing this car has going for it is nostalgia for people like me who grew up with one. If this was $20k-$25k it would sell but at $35k this will fail here in US very quickly.
Drum brakes are lighter than discs so, if you want a light car and you dont actually need discs (like on the back of a very small car), drums are the better choice.
Speaking from Europe, Ireland I adored the 500e, they shoupd make a Giardinia estate instead of a cynical phone in 600e But also, an EV/PHEV conversion of the og 500 and Panda. It's so infuriating why they won't do that
I’m guessing the 87KW rating is how much output power the motor produces. But nothing is 100% efficient. The motor would certainly draw more than 87KW from the battery while outputting 87KW.
4:41 imho, the instant electric torque of EVs makes stickier tires a justifiable investment, regardless of the car's horsepower figure. My V60 Recharge puts out only 140hp to the rear wheels and weighs over 5,000lbs. but with the factory all-seasons, you didn't need to dip far into the throttle to get wheel slip, particularly when accelerating through a turn or just accelerating from a stand-still, and especially in the wet. Switching to UHP all-seasons solved that almost entirely.
You’re right. I bought my Tesla model X for $35k. granted it’s a 2017 with 80,000 miles but it is in perfect working condition. I get over 220 miles of rain. I can go anywhere with a supercharger. This thing is way too expensive for $32,000.
I'm also on Team Fiat 500 - a great little car, with a good range and decent quality! But here in Europe the price is going higher and higher, because Fiat/Stellantis has no sales problems with the 500 electric. Am surprised the 500 e C isn't sold in the US - why???? The convertible makes sense in California and other sunny states!
A lot of the old kei cars had the spares up front too, the problem is that those particular donuts do not crumble properly when in a front end collision, they come through the dash. That's actually another good reason to not include a frunk in a really small car like this, you might make the crumple zone uncrumpable.
From what I understand that was meant to be the range - but from the 50% in costs reduction over the older car it looks like the shareholders got all that money instead of reduced price but EV in Europe come with 25% off the mark retail price as standard so they could be doing the same thing here but even a 25% reduction in price even then seems still a bit too high
From what I understand, it has to do with the fact that Fiat made an electric Fiat 500 for the USA since 2013 due to some "clean cars" laws. But it seem it was a WAY less attractive EV
We will get a truly new Stellantis small battery platform (44 kWh) this summer with the ë-C3 with a starting price of under 25,000 euros. So they have to move the stock of the current/old platform out of Europe, because that will make them hard to sell.
It is a total ground up new design and way to manufacturing it - I believe not one part has been taken from the older model it is that radical design and departure from the old That is why Fiat is saying it cost 25% less to build with a 25% cost reduction in materials price due to the redesign
I think what losts are forgetting here is this car isnt “new” its been out in Europe for a few years in two battery specs. We are getting the 42kwh version in NA and there is a gap in the market now until the J01 Mini arrives in 2026-27.
Wow, that's like hipster tiny house expensive for a shed level of pricing. It is actually interesting that this gets less range than an original and cheaper Hyundai Ioniq BEV which is arguably an ugly, but better and more usable vehicle. The Hyundai had a 38kWh battery too...
Is that the MKBHD hoodie? Looks good. This looks like a perfect second car, $34k is a little pricey but guessing it'll be discounted sooner rather than later.
38 usable kWh means: at 80% of charge 31% minus low end 5=26 kWh X (guessing) 3.5 miles per about 90- 100 miles BUT variable 75-110 mph (terrain, aggressive driving, AC/Heat, electric system usage). Potential for success? Unknown where to be available and state EV credit. My observation is based on similar sized, price, availability of Mini Cooper EV sales success.
Would I get myself a Fiat 500? Not likely!! But I want a small camper and will be getting a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with the Wheelhome Vikenze III conversion for camping in.
Honestly really wanted one until I sat in it. Im 5'8 and my head was right at the ceiling bent over to find controls to lower seat. Found none farted and got out as quickly possible 😂😅 was at an auto show !
That's bizarre. My 2013 500E has an adjustable driver's seat and I can fit in it at 6 ft tall (although the windshield ends a bit low). The passenger seat has a fixed height and also fits me, although I can't see very far upward.
On one hand, I like the way it looks and I think it's cool (I also liked the old 500e). On the other hand, this has to be one of the worst value, least competitive EVs you can buy today.
I think the 500e makes sense for people who want a cute and fashionable car. It's not as charming as the previous generation, but it still has a lot more personality than other EVs.
Serious question. Who are the design people talking to that they are getting the impression that consumers want the piano black plastic? Still, car seems fine for its use case. I'd have to wait a couple years to see about reliability since it's Fiat, but other than that I'd put it on my shopping list. Not sure the price value will be there at the higher trims though.
It still holds true that Mercedes is 10 years in front of the curve. Mercedes came out with this piano black about a decade ago, maybe even more than that. Now it is trickled down into the more economy cars. Toyota among others does this too. It's not great
Surprisingly, the previous generation doesn't have mechanical issues. The only iffy parts are the plastics and the window regulators. I guess once you remove the ICE powertrain + electronics, there's nothing left to screw up.
Jordan is killing it. Great work man!
We recently bought a two-year old La Prima (top spec) model in the UK. Around about half the original price, so quite a lot of depreciation - but I think that is just the market right now. And we absolutely love, love, love it. We also have a Hyundai Ioniq 6 as our primary car, so the Fiat fits beautifully into the family. It’s been on some long day trips recently (as the I6 was out of action), do close to 400 miles in a day, and aside from more charge stops (compare to the I6), it has handled the wonderfully. Lots of personality, easy and fun to drive, still “perky” despite the low-ish power, and so damn cute to look at. No regrets.
Love my 2018 Fiat and would absolutely buy this... Used. The styling is on point. The problem is that the small car gets great gas mileage, but sort of the opposite effect when it's electric and loses battery space. I've never once used the back seat, it would be nice to have an option for battery expansion or something to replace that space. Very happy to see a review from a fan and not somebody who doesn't get it. We'd all be safer if we drove small cars.
Makes no sense, electric vehicles are FAR more energy efficient than gas-powered vehicles.
@@JakeRichardsong not about efficiency, but thanks for trying to evangelize. The gas 500 can go 300+ miles on a tank, while the electric is below half that on a charge.
Had this car for the day in Madrid. Fantastic car compared to the equivalent 1 litre fossil rental car. Big tv and double the power for easy high speed motoring.
J - you loaded a ton of pertinent info into 46 mins, and a well-done production. Professional work and straight talk. The car: Italian flair with “enough” Zip to stay safe, and - Oh, yeah, FUN! These have City-appeal, no doubt. Exciting times for Motor Heads - hard to keep up with the DAILY innovations. 👍🏿👍🏿🙏🏻👊
I watched a video that pointed out drum brakes were only an issue with excessive use, but were really good at keeping the brake sealed from moisture preventing rust. Perfect for EV applications.
To be honest, I’m impressed by the style of this damned car. To me, the car is a small car for urban transportation. I’m a country man living in Hertfordshire.
I'm living about a mile from the center in a town in Germany of some 600.000. I do have a garage with a door some 15" wider and 5" higher than the 500e Cabrio I have. This little car is so much fun especially with the top down.
I use it for somewhat longer trips of some 250 miles every now and then and need one 30 minute charging stop (conveniently at a Mc Donalds) and another 10 Minutes stop close to home to be on the safe side. Visiting my mother in a village some 50 miles away is easy.
Charging from the 220V 10A power outlet in my garage takes some 30h from 10 to 100% but usually I don't care, charging over night is enough for my daily needs.
In the city it's a fun car for my single household. It's certainly good enough for the suburbs, too.
I've had my 500e Icon trim since 2022 in the UK and hands down been the best built fiat ive ever had and so much fun to drive in town. Great for the work commute. This is also the third variant of the 500 model ive had (Abarth 595, 500 sport)
It is a stylish car, I Like the Convertible 500E. The full electric Fiat 500 E is a lot larger than the former gas and hybrid Versions, comfortable seating is possible with a 6.2" size. 😁. A great electric retro car for the metropolitan areas.
My small hatchback is a little Renault Zoe. It’s the best car I’ve ever had in my control, using an 80% full battery.
Finally, something I'm interested in buying.
I have been waiting for this out of spec review can't wait for a 70 mph range test I love my 2015 500e I am holding out for the cabriole
On the lack of frunk - I at least want a small lockable storage area that isn't visible through the windows to hold the "things every car should have" - the can of fix-a-flat and tire inflator, the mobile charge cord, a first aid kit, and room to store a purse. The microscopic Hyundai/Kia frunks are fine. Just enough space for a hatchback. Less needed on a sedan, but every EV with an "open to the cabin" storage area should have a frunk.
Good point👍
I still drive my 2013 500e daily, except for snow days. It's still great!
I chew through tires so fast. It’s like a go kart. So fun.
@@float32 I went up a size which seemed to get me a little more life out of mine. Love that car
On my second a 2017 Argento Silver Sport.
@@jrheisler blasphemy! I will never trade any of the extra torque of the small tires! I suppose a lighter wheel might be able to compensate.
Same here my popsicle orange 2013 500e is still a delight to drive every day and even with 82K miles on the clock the battery still can comfortably manage a 60 mile freeway round-trip or even an 80 miler if there's a lot of non-freeway driving!
Cool to see my car; I also have the 500e RED edition. But then in the European trim. I LOVE it and call it my Urban Tesla. Totally agree with the joy and personality of driving it. And I also agree with the inability to set my charge value. In addition I can’t see charge speeds in the car. Over the air updates do come but very irregular. Apart from that ; it’s perfect! ❤❤❤
Also fantastic video!
Good review. People spend so much money on accommodations that only apply to 2% of their life. Gotta have a dedicated guest bedroom for the 1-2 times a year someone actually stays at the house. Gotta have a 300 mile range EV for the 1-2 times a year you drive more than 30 miles a day. Gotta have a pickup truck for the 1-2 times a year you actually need to haul something that won't fit in a car. That's what rentals are for.
My first car was a FIAT, all FIATs are marked from Torino.
FIAT is an abbreviation (Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino).
Or: Fix It Again Tony 😂
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Great info. Please do the 2024 Kona Electric next!
First time watching Jordan narrate a solo review. Great job, tons of detail and good observations.
If I was someone could afford to have 2 cars, this would be a great second car. The whole "daily driver" car was foreign to me until watching more of these car videos.
I have a gas Fiat 500 Pop hatchback with back hitch for cargo basket. Never once did I wish for a larger car. Going on 12 years and on to 30 if car prices keep going up. I looked and motorcycle parts are more expensive than mine.
You should take it to a downtown area and see how well it does there.
Ill be receiving mine soon!
I ordered an Inspired by Beauty and am so excited for it to arrive!
I think the new Fiat 500e has an LFP battery, which is why there is no option to stop at 80%. It's unnecessary and also LFP needs occasional 100% charges (either for health or calibration).
This is making me cautiously optimistic about the Jeep Recon.
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The Mighty Atom should be pure jam to park in a standard parking space in Hoddesdon!!
I will never physically recover from this trip to the grocery store! 🛒😵
Hey Andrew, there's no need to buckle up in the back seat on the Cinquecento (tell your friend it's not CinqueNcento) as you don't shake that much back there do you? Greetings from Italy.
@@chelatube Haha, good point! 😆
I bought my Fiat 500 in 2012. I still have it, I still love it. Took me to Canada mountains to Arizona, to Florida, to Washington DC. NOTHING ever happened to it. 136k mines so far. Would probably consider an electric upgrade but they don't offer classic legendary Fiat colors. Only yellow for me
Jordan, you are the best!
Come to UK and review something 😅
🤞Will we be getting the Abarth Electric for North America? Really hoping they bring that car here🎉🎉
Cool hoodie, love Marques.
The car is like 16 weeks late and the original plan was you could order back in October/November 2023 with a December but mostly January delivery date - not sure what dealerships/outlets will be selling these cars seeing FIAT was meant to close all their dealerships in the USA
They’ll probably sell them at dodge, jeep, ram, Chrysler dealerships.
@@lawnmowerdudethe problem with that the sales force sells people that walk through the door one of there cars and one that will make them a lot more money vs a 500 any day
All I can see when I look at the 500 logo is Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo laying on his side
I think the space in between the numbers really need the Italian flag colors.
Your videos are the best!
You could make an after market frunk accessory for this
Really this EV ICONIC CAR IS IN USA WOW BEAUTIFUL CAR ITALY TOO IN RED
re: charging levels (13m into the video): At my office the 40A breaker gets tripped all the time by cars trying to draw power too fast from our shared and free to use Level 2 chargers. Being able to step-down the draw when using a shared public charger is a GREAT idea . . especially if you're not being charged by the minute and can leave the car plugged in for a few hours. The Tesla vehicles at our office can automatically adjust their power draw downward, consequently they don't trip that breaker. But the rest of us - Ford, Hyundai, BMW etc vehicles we all trip the breaker sometimes.
You can adjust intensity on all those cars you listed. Mini for exmaple has 16a and 32a. Hyundai can go down to 6-8.
It's cool, the design is good and it's nice to have a small car option.
But heck, just like the Mini, it's a tough sell at the price & range. You really are paying for the styling and size.
Interestingly this model has a lot more options for the headlights on the left stalk. In the European models one of the biggest annoyances with this car is that there was no way to turn off the headlights. You only had the options AUTO and headlights ON. So in the US version you can finally turn off the lights. 😂
Problem selling a car like this in America, it has a very enthusiastic but small demand. When a new model comes out they initially sell well, but everyone who wants one quickly get theirs then the demand evaporates rather quickly.
I wish they had made it rear/mid motor ... I loved the rear-engine Fiat cars from the 50s thru the 80s (growing up with older Skodas, Tatras, and Polki Fiats I always thought the best place for the engine was in the rear - that's just me ... I just can't get used to a FWD Fiat 500 even though it's been around for a while and it's on a new platform, etc. etc.. Same went for the new Beetle from the 90s.
I very much regret NOT keeping my 500e after the lease was up. It was just the perfect car for my daily drives. can't wait to test drive the new 'proper' 500e to see how much better a purpose built machine would be compared to the conversion model the old 500e was.
Google search suggests the battery is LFP so charging to 100% probably default for battery type
You can change the efficiency unit in the display settings
The 500e is cool but the issue is the Volvo EX30 is also a pretty small car without all of the performance/range compromise
Like your reviews, BUT, would be nice if you were in a parking garage when showing the touch screen. In bright sunlight all we see is reflection.
Another awesome video from Jordan, really like the quality improvement. As for the car everything about it is fine except the price, Fiats were always about value not quality, this doesn't have neither. The only thing this car has going for it is nostalgia for people like me who grew up with one. If this was $20k-$25k it would sell but at $35k this will fail here in US very quickly.
Drum brakes are lighter than discs so, if you want a light car and you dont actually need discs (like on the back of a very small car), drums are the better choice.
The Leaf still seems like the king of the city EV, so it would be interesting to see a drive off between this, the Leaf and Mini
does the leaf still have chademo charging, if so that is a network on life support
@@JD-yx7be It still does, so yeah you're not straying too far from home
The Bolt is a better city car than the Leaf sorry.
Speaking from Europe, Ireland
I adored the 500e, they shoupd make a Giardinia estate instead of a cynical phone in 600e
But also, an EV/PHEV conversion of the og 500 and Panda. It's so infuriating why they won't do that
Waiting for 500e vs Mini
The Renault 5 is much cooler as both but probably not available in the US
Already live on the guide channel
I’m guessing the 87KW rating is how much output power the motor produces. But nothing is 100% efficient. The motor would certainly draw more than 87KW from the battery while outputting 87KW.
My wife would love one, if it comes with a "mint" color and a cabriolet roof.
4:41 imho, the instant electric torque of EVs makes stickier tires a justifiable investment, regardless of the car's horsepower figure. My V60 Recharge puts out only 140hp to the rear wheels and weighs over 5,000lbs. but with the factory all-seasons, you didn't need to dip far into the throttle to get wheel slip, particularly when accelerating through a turn or just accelerating from a stand-still, and especially in the wet. Switching to UHP all-seasons solved that almost entirely.
Looks cool, it’s WAY WAY too expensive for the kind of car you get compared to Tesla or others. $32k starting price?? Really
You’re right. I bought my Tesla model X for $35k. granted it’s a 2017 with 80,000 miles but it is in perfect working condition. I get over 220 miles of rain. I can go anywhere with a supercharger. This thing is way too expensive for $32,000.
Nice video thank you!
This car fits into 2 categories: city/commuter ev and/or car as fashion accessory.
Yea, this is the ideal vehicle for a urban dentist's daughter
Go Jordan say it thoroughly appreciated extremely informative good review thanks 👍
Love it! 🔥
I'm also on Team Fiat 500 - a great little car, with a good range and decent quality! But here in Europe the price is going higher and higher, because Fiat/Stellantis has no sales problems with the 500 electric. Am surprised the 500 e C isn't sold in the US - why???? The convertible makes sense in California and other sunny states!
We got the new 600e in Eu. Probably the only Stelantis car without heated steering wheel.
Do you know what would fit nicely inn that front scape under the hood? A space saver spare/donut.
Just like old Fiats.
A lot of the old kei cars had the spares up front too, the problem is that those particular donuts do not crumble properly when in a front end collision, they come through the dash. That's actually another good reason to not include a frunk in a really small car like this, you might make the crumple zone uncrumpable.
@@AlRoderickI agree, it would also negate any pedestrian safety ability.
Range is crazy low for the price. I was expecting 200 miles minimum.
From what I understand that was meant to be the range - but from the 50% in costs reduction over the older car it looks like the shareholders got all that money instead of reduced price but EV in Europe come with 25% off the mark retail price as standard so they could be doing the same thing here but even a 25% reduction in price even then seems still a bit too high
❤❤❤❤❤ I love this little car 😊 both ICE and the new EV version
Strange for this to be called a new platform lol
This 42kwh config has been avaliable in Europe sice 2020
From what I understand, it has to do with the fact that Fiat made an electric Fiat 500 for the USA since 2013 due to some "clean cars" laws. But it seem it was a WAY less attractive EV
@@tom-sn4gd Same model was sold in Europe 2013-2019
We will get a truly new Stellantis small battery platform (44 kWh) this summer with the ë-C3 with a starting price of under 25,000 euros. So they have to move the stock of the current/old platform out of Europe, because that will make them hard to sell.
It is a total ground up new design and way to manufacturing it - I believe not one part has been taken from the older model it is that radical design and departure from the old
That is why Fiat is saying it cost 25% less to build with a 25% cost reduction in materials price due to the redesign
@@anton_grahnI don't think it was ever sold officially, just imported by third parties that homologated it for the EU.
I think what losts are forgetting here is this car isnt “new” its been out in Europe for a few years in two battery specs. We are getting the 42kwh version in NA and there is a gap in the market now until the J01 Mini arrives in 2026-27.
Maybe it's an LFP battery?
Wow, that's like hipster tiny house expensive for a shed level of pricing.
It is actually interesting that this gets less range than an original and cheaper Hyundai Ioniq BEV which is arguably an ugly, but better and more usable vehicle. The Hyundai had a 38kWh battery too...
Is that the MKBHD hoodie? Looks good. This looks like a perfect second car, $34k is a little pricey but guessing it'll be discounted sooner rather than later.
If they drop the Abarth version I'm sold, simple as.
38 usable kWh means: at 80% of charge 31% minus low end 5=26 kWh X (guessing) 3.5 miles per about 90- 100 miles BUT variable 75-110 mph (terrain, aggressive driving, AC/Heat, electric system usage). Potential for success? Unknown where to be available and state EV credit. My observation is based on similar sized, price, availability of Mini Cooper EV sales success.
how tall is too tall to drive
How long will this version be on sale for before no one buys these either
*I enjoyed the ending!!!*
Apparently, this is still not a software-defined vehicle?
if priced right, this car is made for India.
lot of city people will be excited to buy this car.
Good job, Jordan! I think this will be good used car, it’s a little too expensive brand new.
B rolls are played out but a nice change for the reviews. we need more EV vans . cheers
It is a tech for Fiat 500. I wondered what type of battery and dose it supports fast charging.
85kwh max charge rate, 42kwh NMC battery. 37.7kwh useable
35k mighty proud of it
I think it’s adorable, but I’m dubious about sales in the U.S. because the range is about 100 miles less than what the market demands.
Would I get myself a Fiat 500? Not likely!! But I want a small camper and will be getting a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with the Wheelhome Vikenze III conversion for camping in.
Honestly really wanted one until I sat in it. Im 5'8 and my head was right at the ceiling bent over to find controls to lower seat. Found none farted and got out as quickly possible 😂😅 was at an auto show !
That's bizarre. My 2013 500E has an adjustable driver's seat and I can fit in it at 6 ft tall (although the windshield ends a bit low). The passenger seat has a fixed height and also fits me, although I can't see very far upward.
We need an abarth with a structural rigidity augmenting extended battery pack instead of a back seat.
Mini is a more compelling vehicle for the price. But the fiat is an attractive design.
On one hand, I like the way it looks and I think it's cool (I also liked the old 500e). On the other hand, this has to be one of the worst value, least competitive EVs you can buy today.
10k cheaper and its ok!
The price is a bit rough. I am considering a small car but the Model 3 is almost the same price, and used Model 3 make it really hard to justify this.
This review hits as hard as a Model S Plaid and a ........ Too soon???
Coooool,, 👍😎👍
In my EV i use a lot the 0 pedal drive only the steering wheel buttons. Try next vid
I like Fiat 500s, but nobody in the US is going to pay $32.5K for an electric Fiat
Where can you buy it? I just want to know so I can avoid the dealer.
I think Stellantis should have brought over the Jeep Avenger EV instead if the Fiat 500e.
I think the 500e makes sense for people who want a cute and fashionable car. It's not as charming as the previous generation, but it still has a lot more personality than other EVs.
Serious question. Who are the design people talking to that they are getting the impression that consumers want the piano black plastic? Still, car seems fine for its use case. I'd have to wait a couple years to see about reliability since it's Fiat, but other than that I'd put it on my shopping list. Not sure the price value will be there at the higher trims though.
It still holds true that Mercedes is 10 years in front of the curve. Mercedes came out with this piano black about a decade ago, maybe even more than that. Now it is trickled down into the more economy cars. Toyota among others does this too. It's not great
I think it impresses buyers in the showroom, and that's all car companies care about. Some brands like Honda are backing off.
Did they figure out how to make it leak oul
Surprisingly, the previous generation doesn't have mechanical issues. The only iffy parts are the plastics and the window regulators. I guess once you remove the ICE powertrain + electronics, there's nothing left to screw up.
I was just thinking the other day I hadn't seen (red) anything in quite a while!
Fairly close to “ ARREST ME RED”
im on team frunk.
we have a cabrio version in Europe