Why This GAME CHANGING Mod Should Be Added To Geometry Dash
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- "Click Between Frames" mod by syzzi: geode-sdk.org/mods/syzzi.clic...
I'm currently verifying the new top 1 "Grief" using this mod that reinvents how inputs are polled, making the game much more responsive. Through this video, we hope to express why RobTop should implement the mod officially.
Featuring:
@DiamondGD
@Patrick61804
@icedcave
@opayc
@TechnicalJL
0:00 Grief
0:35 Intro
1:15 How input precision works currently
2:05 Why Physics Bypass wasn't a perfect solution
2:54 How Click Between Frames works
3:53 Why this mod is better than previous bypass mods
4:19 Performance gains from the mod
5:06 What players can accomplish with the mod
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All is civil and polite until robtop says "no"
A war will happen if he says no, there is zero reason why he would say no and he can’t be like “Oh it’s impossible to implement” the worst thing he will say is maybe.
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Mobile players and PC Players with Potato PC will have a huge amount of disadvantage if that happens.
@@jacks248did you even read the reply? theyre literally saying that not implementing this into the game will greatly handicap people on low-end pcs or on mobile
If he says no we riot
If RobTop does not implement this mod into the game, he will get the Tidal wave treatment again.
i love how doggie, diamond, and lordvadercraft all collectively decided to upload at the same time
wow they have the same script to
cuz its a community standpoint
@@ymgwade8220 the same voice too wtf
about the same stuff too
Lmao, if you play from all their intros, its the same script
If this gets implemented, there will be no more fps related debates, ever. I hope we see this as an official part of the game. Great presentation!
high fps is still an advantage just not as big anymore with cbf. There's no denying the 60fps is harder than 360 visually...
It would be the end of the fps era
same alias, also keep up the good work on your yt :)
@@toasty00000 past your monitor’s refresh rate, it would not give any visual effects
@@exiled_shadegdhigher fps would still give better input delay. that’s just how it works for anything, but the degree to which it helps would definitely be reduced for gd
Bloodbath on 20 FPS is beyond insanity. This shows how much the mod can change the game. If the mod gets added, the game will reach limits far above what was previously thought to be impossible. I have high hopes of this mod being allowed.
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I hope Robtop adds it to the game. Would be huge. I might make a video abt it today too. Good job and good video doggie !
love your content bro
please do it bro
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Only 2 replies??????????????????
hello vit🗿🍷
Technical's argument is great. People put so much work into making a beautiful level, yet so few people actually get to appreciate them the way they're intended. Rob also clearly values decoration, which is probably why this argument might catch his attention.
He values gameplay, not decoration.
@@Runtemnot true, he values both
@@Runtem He values both. Gameplay is important but the amount of work put in levels to make em great matters a lot too for rob.
bloodbath beaten on 20fps is an absurd achievement, and this mod needs to be added to vanilla. this will forever even the playing field and im all for it.
i want this mod cuz i get lag spikes even tho im on a rtx 3070 and 280hz i want 0 delay too cuz when i play eod i lag alot
@@Hxnnah885thats because gd doesnt depend on ur graphics card
can someone explain how the game would have no delay from not waiting for the next physic step but at the same time the physics don’t change?
@@filipe4134inputs ≠ physics
@@_Tao__ well if the cube jumps before it wouldve previously been able to, would that not cause any bugs?
As someone who sucks balls at the game at 60fps, this mod is an actual, literal game changer. Made the game so much more tolerable and suddenly now I can actually straight fly without issue
This. I struggled specifically with the ship with my 60hz monitor. FPS Bypass would help with that but came with it's own sets of problems. Now after trying this mod I actively use it since I can now actually play the game equivilant to my skill and what I can do, instead of relying on my hardware to be good enough so I can get a percentage of it out of the game.
But you will no longer be on true 60 FPS😔😔
@@p8geons233 It would make it fair game for all framerates, so if anything its still better than claiming a completion at 60.
@@p8geons233who cares though the game is 20 times more fun by being on "not truly 60fps" (also fps is the term for visualization for frames seen on your display not the calculations done per second. So it would actually be "not truly 60hz" 🤓)
if i don’t use low detail mode i literally can see the delay on my clicks even if i don’t lag, hope robtop will add this in the game
Rob: ummmmmmm how about nuh uh
lol yeah
probably too lazy to implement it
hes gonna wait 7 years
it will be added in 2.21 (between ummmm 4 years and never)
@@baconmunchgd5447 no way u just said robtop is lazy
3 titans, 1 same opinion
And the Demonlist
@@IAmInYourCommentSectionand a whole bunch of people
and people hating them for it is attack on titan
Bro posted this right after diamond
and also lordvadercraft
They definitely all planned ir
they doing that for robtop to see it
GYATT
@@averagelizard2489yeah they did
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING. This is the most revolutionary feature, it’s ridiculous. I would not call it cheating at all. It’s basically 2.2’s version of fps bypass. Same deal.
Very true
The main difference between CBF and fps bypass is that fps bypass allowed for physics that were possible in vanilla gd, just with a different monitor. CBF allows for inputs that are not physically possible in vanilla gd in any form, which is why it is not allowed currently.
CBF should absolutely be in the vanilla game though, obviously.
it's not cheating cuz it's what gd should've had in the 1st place lmao
@@MNGLD-do2kc That's literally not how that works??? You can't just say "Oh this is not cheating because this cheat should be in the game", it just isn't in the game and is cheating, there's no denying that
Still should be added to the game so it isn't cheating yea, but rn it 100% is
So installing a mod that makes the game easier is not cheating?
I really hope that click between frames gets implemented someday into the official game.
This would also make the game more dependant on skill, as instead of clicking at the right time and crashing because your physics didn’t get calculated in time, or clicking at the wrong time and passing, it would now just depend an when you clicked instead of when it would be recalculated
1:20 Resurrections coming Out of nowhere hits so hard
It’s so cool seeing gaming TH-camrs come together to get the game developer’s attention
I thought you were SupaIsaiah012/SupaCLUCK for a second
community-
fps bypass, lets you get an advantage over people with bad computers; allowed.
click between frames, makes the game acessable for everyone; not allowed.
i love this community
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At this point I don't even want to question the list's terms of legitimacy
You're a bit mistaken. While FPS bypass have an advantage players with high end PCs, only up to 360fps were allowed in demonlist(s). And from other point of view it's completely opposite - it allowed players with low refresh rates be almost as good as players with high refresh retes, which actually made the game less pay-to-win. Also much more players had PCs that could handle GD in 360fps(even if it was achieved with optimization mods or ULDM versions of levels), than PCs with high refresh rates(especially 360hz)
FPS bypass was at least able to be recreated in vanilla (using a better monitor). it is impossible to recreate CBF in vanilla without modding.
@@gmd-dnchplay mine plays the avarage level on 70 fps (240hz) lol
If the best players of the game want it. Add it. Simple decision.
In this case I agree with doggie, but that doesn’t mean we should take top player’s words as gospel. They will always know what’s optimal for the experience of extreme levels, but that is not guaranteed for the bigger picture that includes the rest of the community.
@@james2be916 I am an average who's hardest is an insane demon. Before the cbf mod I could never do a straight fly but with the mod I can suddenly do it now, so the top players are right and the mod should be implemented in the game.
@@james2be916straightfly used to be virtually impossible on 60 hz, and now it is. Most impossible levels are also now possible because of it. It’s a good thing for everyone
Not a fan of KaiGuy but I gotta respect all the support for the mod
Rhythm games in general have input device poll rate as the limiting factor on input precision. They don't let the game engine, refresh rate, or any such factors limit input precision. GD isn't a rhythm game, but why would we not follow the same standard?
I really hope Rob implements this. Good luck dude!!!
same
100% agreed, adding this as an official feature in the game is the perfect solution, lets hope RobTop does it. I think it would also be better if the mod as a feature was limited to 1000 polling rate, that way we all play in the same conditions :D
And even if it wasn’t, the price of an 8k polling rate device is significantly less than a high end monitor, so even then it’s still better
Yep
At that scale, limits would be completely arbitrary
leave it unlimited, imagine capping it at 125hz because we want to be "inclusive" with lower ends, we would have worsened the problem
Totalmente de acuerdo carajo
So glad to see this brought back up. The past few weeks I was thinking I hope this mod doesn’t just get forgotten about. I feel this is urgent with the current splitting of the community into 2.1 private servers / vanilla 2.2. Good videos gentlemen, hopefully this can finally settle the age old issue of fps/physics.
I was skeptical at the start but you guys explained it really well and this actually looks pretty cool
5:15 helloo its me omg
i agree with you, cbf should be eventually added in the vainilla game. thats how gd should had worked out in the first place
how did it look when you played bloodbath on low fps how did it feel?
@@zink15plus Even if i cannot see a thing well, it doesn't matter the physics and polling rate are always the same. it's playeable
same click pattern?
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LEGALIZE CBF 🗣️
#LegalizeCBF
Fake
#LegalizeCBF
Cock and ball framerate
Swag messiah
I literally see no downside in adding this mod into the game (other than the bugs with platformer) so I don't get why so many people are against it tbh. It literally makes the game fair across all devices.
Downside: infinit fps = infinit lag
@@David280GG you don't have infinite fps though what 💀
@@David280GGwhat?
@@David280GG not how the mod works
Also thank you for uploading this at the same time as vadercraft and diamond, we really need this mod added to the game
We have to do something like the Tidal Wave rate thing, but in a peaceful and respectful way so Robtop listen to us.
the tidal wave rate wasnt peaceful
@@zink15plus I mean coming together to make something happen in the game.
@@zink15plusthe point is to behave in the opposite way to the tidal wave drama
oh i see my bad i got confused
i see
I am also up for this mod to be added, it makes your gameplay to be more "controlled" in a certain way and more precise.
20 billion views in -3 seconds bros up 😭🙏
blud fr falling up (geometry dash reference?) 💀🙏
Blud fell so high up he ascended to heaven (geometry dash reference?) 💀🙏
Nah he fell and it turned into a bloodbath (geometry dash reference?) 💀🙏
N0.
(geometry dash reference?)
Bro fell yelling ooooo while making an x shape
(Gd reference)
Thank you so much for bringing this topic. As a person who plays on a 60 Hz laptop I have always struggled to run levels. In 2.1 I used to not bypass fps and bypass tps instead which was a bit more viable. Once 2.2 dropped I was forced to use fps bypass which my laptop couldn't handle, laggin below 100 fps on most levels. This made me really struggle to continue playing levels hard for my skill range, making me spend a lot on every level I played since then. Once the mod dropped I started using it, turned off unlock fps going back to 60 and all my problem disappeared. I can now even run levels in full detail with no problems. And if added I wouldn't be surprised if people started beating levels Tartarus difficulty or above on mobile too. No one talks about mobile players, such a huge part of the community. Why they shouldn't be allowed to play hard levels? This mod is fantastic. Until it's not added in the vanilla game banning it is straight up disrespectfu for all the people that don't have nasa's pcs.
this has 100% won me over.
with this fixing so many problems that the community has had for years this would be one of the best things to happen to the game ever. with this mod less people would have to worry about accidently playing on a nerfed LDM/ULDM and also this would just straight up make the game more fair and fun.
2024: Click between frames is awesome!
2030: space between uk is undestrubtable
Aint no way you a diamond uploaded a video on click between frames within 3 minutes of eachother
Lvc aswell
It seems like a strategy to get support from the community
very well made and informative hopefully this makes an impact 🤞
4:49 I love how the level also has a lag spike
Cmon Robtop, we're counting on you!
Diamond, Doggie, and LordVaderCraft uploaded at the same time
The best way to explain this mod and giving the best possible reasoning for the mod to be allowed/added
Damn what a great video, if this actually gets implemented (which I hope) I'm sure this will be one of the things that helped convincing Robtop
I find this mod really useful cause I would get mad amounts of screen tearing without it
True..
No more frame perfects lol
lol
Now only pixel perfects
Very important video thanks for making this doggie
I love your editing style
This is really good for me as a person who showcases, as it would give me cleaner macros, as well as a much better time botting. My computer lags when I have to record a video, and this would really help. It would help potato pc players, as well as slightly help mobile players as well.
also unrelated but that Super Mario Galaxy music brought me back to
I was watching diamonds video a few seconds and got this recommended
I'm glad many top players could come together to share this info. I personally use the mod, and it feels so much more precise on much harder levels. It would benefit so many people who don't have the greatest device, to people with the strongest PCs. I really do hope Rob implements this into GD.
I fully agree. I hope this gets added!
You'd think implementing something like this would be a no-brainer and a priority considering how Rob was all about making the game more accessible, and even without that it just makes the game better for everyone.
better for people who can get geode, hence not mac or ios users.
@@laxris6563Which is why the argument is to have it be a vanilla feature
wait this is even better than I expcted, I might even try a new hardest
Really cool collab, I agree tbh
this has changed my perspective on CBF
Doggie, you made the right decision in choosing to be in favor of this mod, with you on its side, it raises the chances of this mod being included in the game and making it more enjoyable for everyone. Not only have you chosen this because it benefits you, but this choice can benefit others too (:
Doggie, Diamond And LordVaderCraft is definitely protesting 😂😂
Great video! Really hope Rob notices it :)
If this gets added ing, fps debates will never have to be discussed again
Ayyy Cbf is finally allowed now! 😀
Hello! I wanna clarify that the mod is only available on Windows due to it using WinApi to modify the application, and the main issue is that it cannot be ported to android, macOS and iPhone, unless theres a method to achieve the same thing on all platforms. This may take a long time for RobTop to find and may not be added.
Interesting good to know
@@JustPsychoo69 Ye, so dont overwhelm robtop he cant really eelease it that fast due to this
i’ve always been slow to welcome major changes to the playing field, but this particular mod is something that i would absolutely love to see added to gd. or at least allowed by the demon list.
I have used this mod for a week or two and before I wasnt able to if practice some of the medium or hard demons but after I downloaded everything just felt buttery smooth, wave and ship were so easy to control and straight fly was easy
I have stopped grinding extreme demons to get better because of input delay from my devices. It makes it way too hard to play, so I gave up on demons like plasma pulse finale. I really hope this is allowed.
Why tf did diamond lordcraft and doggie upload the same video topic
Its almost like they are trying to get the game developers attention or something
They are trying to push the idea out as it is something huge and also very useful
It’s almost like they’re friends lol
Btw I completely support you using this mod 😄
As someone with low refresh rate, implementing CBF will be a huge game changer in the game. And also, just imagine how we could further improve & refine our skill to a higher degree with this!
Let’s do what we did with tidal wave rate but with cbf 🎉 😊🎉
Except not blow up their dms with death threats
3 players, 1 opinion
Havent played gd in a year but keep up the good work
As someone who has played this game on low end devices for my entire 9+ year career, it sometimes feels soul-crushing knowing I’m at a disadvantage and not able to reach my full potential as a player. Having this officially added will revolutionize the game and have it reach heights never thought possible.
Moblie players crying in corner with their 60hz phone (me)💀
Fr 😀🥲
I have average 60.01 fps
Get a better phone then
Not everyone has money @@xenird
This would be so good for us mobile players 😎
I wanna see rob make a response video so bad
Amazing level Doggs
This shit kind like a draconiaarmy vid
eat between frames
Lmao
I am so glad so many important voices in the community are recognizing how important this mod is and are pushing it to get implemented in vanilla. There are absolutely 0 downsides and it will make the game more accessible, responsive, and just more fun. People should not stop pushing this until it gets implemented.
quick thing to clarify there are mcie that support 8khz, (viper 8k, op1 8k are both available for around 70$)
CBF should be allowed imo
The mod _is_ cheating at the moment but I wish it was added to the vanilla game
I didn't even know about this mod until this video. I agree that this will add huge benefits to all players, especially those who don't have the craziest hardware (me), love the message!
After watching this video and showing the true potential with this mod that I might look in to it and use it myself
As mentioned, DO NOT HARRASS ROB!
We dont need tidal wave situation number 2. This time fracturing the relationship with rob completely.
This mod is great for the game, and i can see it as a supporter of it being banned in play.
Why don't you want this mod to be allowed??
Yeah, doggie mentioned this at the end of the vid lol.
@@AdamantWind2071 and you expect GD viewers to watch till the end?
@@II.Banada it alters the game in a way rob doesn't allow
@@Gabberbam I see what you mean 💀
To be honest, if Pointercrate and/or Robtop refuses to accept cbf, an alternative solution would be just creating a third party rating and leaderboard system which could accept it to prevent the skill drought that originally stemmed from fps bypass being banned for years to happen again
tysm doggie for making this video🍊
my opinion, this should definetly be added. in the minecraft cpvp (crystal pvp) scene, there is a mod called "crystal optimizer". essentially this mod lets you place end crystals faster than normal. the reason this is allowed is because it shows your actual skill in cpvp
It says a lot that everyone in the comments section agrees. That’s basically unheard of. There really is no downside to this mod.
The mod shouldn’t be added at all. It’s literally a hack.
It's not, it's a mod. If you use a hack you gain an unfair advantage over anyone else not using it. This mod is entirely free and anyone can download it and use it if they want to and what it does, especially if it were to be added vanilla, is level the playing field for everyone so hardware won't hold you back anymore because currently if you for example have a 60hz monitor, like me, you literally cannot compete at top level because of that. This mod eliminates the need to buy an expensive monitor for me and it's completely free.
It doesn't make the game easier it just makes it more precise and now the only thing holding me back is my own skill, not my hardware.
I don't understand how people can see this as a type of cheat if it literally levels the playing field for everyone and eliminates advantages due to better hardware. It literally solves the problem of others having an advantage.
@@user-bt8xr5si9yrespect for literally going in every comment and explaijing
@@exiled_shadegd I defend this mod because with it I can finally enjoy the game based on my skill and not have to worry about my FPS.
@@user-bt8xr5si9y yes, I agree, I’m usually the person who does this but you’ve saved me a lot of time and effort, so thanks
@@user-bt8xr5si9yCBF is objectively cheating, getting an input where you shouldn’t in vanilla gd is an advantage and unfair to those who don’t play with the mod
I feel like this would be simply added. Considering the physics steps in just a simple decode to have this mod in game it shouldn't be an issue. Plus the mod doesn't give an unfair advantage other than better timed jumps
all 3 ytubers uploading at the same time is crazy
Yall need cheats to catch up to zoink and popoff, thats crazy
zoink plays on 2.1 with 360tps
@@asdfoifhvjbkaosno he doesn’t it’s visually 360 fps but physics 240 tps.
If Zoink or Popoff got this mod, they’d verify Aeternus tbh
I dont think thats their motivation
its not cheats if everyone uses it
if everybody used it Zoink and popoff would still be as good compared to everyone else
And guess why psychopath by denipol was unrated 😢
pointercrate = 💩💩💩
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I really wish to see CBF implemented in the game officially. Using it as a mod without official endorsement is something i am not on board eith. Hope to see it inolemented though.
i back it 100%. It would help usher in a new wave of top 1s (i have like 50 demons i think so i cant talk on the difficulty of such levels) but it would help the longevity and accessability of this game even more. such a cool mod
Cbf should never be added
So you're basically saying in order to get to top level play you are required to buy expensive hardware that can run the game at a higher framerate instead of just adding this, which is completely free and levels the playing field entirely? makes sense.
Dude you're never gonna be a top player quit yapping 🙄@@user-bt8xr5si9y
why not?
@@user-bt8xr5si9yfrrrrr
@Nriay as someone whos beaten multiple top 50s and has significant progress on tartarus on a 2013 iMac, this would make the game so much better i can barely run a lot of new extremes and fps bypass literally doesnt exist for mac on 2.2
Doggie and diamond win the award for worst takes of 2024
it’s literally most community figures wdym
Love the celeste music in the backround
Remember people. This mod does not make you better. It takes away the deaths that weren’t your fault. With CBF, players are now completely responsible for their gameplay without it being left to chance.
yeah you have no idea how many times I've been fucked over by a random lag spike on extreme demons and if cbf takes that away then hallelujah
I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHEN I SAY JUST LIKE ICON HACK, THIS IS 100% CHEATING!
you speak for nobody, pipe down
icon hack is nothing compared to this
@congregationn yes I do. I am the chosen one, my opinions are 100% factual.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVPnobody loves you 😊
@QU141. my mom says she does, therefore your statement is incorrect.
You and diamond are lazy, don't promote cbf
Bro this mod would be so nice to have implemented into the game
As a mobile player, I see this as a win. I could straight fly very easy until 2.2 and now I struggle with basic ship control with the new physics