I feel Tolkien wrote himself into a corner when he killed him off and the rest off the magical beings. I adduced it from Tolkien’s troubles in writing a sequel to LOTR. He described it as more of a thriller and not fantasy, and so he dropped it. But he created it, he could’ve resurrected it.
@@awallner1 it didn’t need to continue the story ended perfectly there, I’m glad they didn’t make a sequel connected to the story , but plenty of other stories could take place in middle-earth before or after the Lord of the rings. With Sauron gone and morgoth gone , there is no evil deity left so it could cause a new one to arise or become corrupted, there is no light without darkness and peace never lasts forever
@@awallner1 So true....but he had spent so many years creating the Masterpiece that he probably did need that rest. It's just brilliant....brilliant I tell ya.
Why didn’t Elrond try to stop Isildur from not destroying the ring? What would Sauron do if Melkor came back in the third age where he had the one ring? Do you all think it should be a continuation to the story after lord of the rings? Who would be the new dark lord? Would Aragon bring the Numenorians back from his bloodline with Arwen? And now that Sauron is gone, would the rings still work for the elves? Middle earth is my favorite lore of all time. It’s sad that they’re ruining it with rings of power.
In the books they didn’t know to destroy the ring, Isildur studied it for a year, but when he started to feel it’s power over him he began a journey to Rivendell to get Elrond’s advice. He was killed on the journey. The films made isildur look a lot weaker and less honourable than he was in the books unfortunately.
@@mickymickymike4105 Elrond like many others knew he couldn't bear the ring, not even for journey to Mt. Doom to cast it into the flames from which it was forged.
@@DrewPeabaws that makes sense. I see that is a flaw in the movie because there is no way Elrond didn’t put up a fight with Isildur if he knew that destroying the ring would bring peace to the world. That’ll be like me with a gun in my hand and someone in the government was going to press the red button to set off nuclear war. I’m not going to let them push that button if I could help it lol.
I have a question for someone that knows more than i do. I hope i dont sound dumb when i ask this but, if sauron was alive before the ring and made the ring, why does destroying the ring also destroy him too? Its seperate from him.
I'm pretty sure it's because when he created the one ring, he infused his will, his essence, his being and soul into it, so without the ring, he does not exist. In the most basic form i can put it is, after Morgoth was defeated Sauron was weak, went into hiding, some thought he was dead, while the others that didn't, were hunting him. Lucky for him he could take the form of other people (a shape shifter) so he disguised himself as the Lord of Gifts then helped and influenced a certain elf with the methods/magic for crafting/creating rings of power, after gaining this knowledge and art, Celebrimbor crafted the 3 elven rings by himself. The methods and arts in creating/crafting the rings is very important here, because this is Sourons own method and magic and to top it off, its a really dark magic, one that gos back to the creation of time, woven by the songs of morgoth of what he found in the abys. So any object created and crafted in this method will be tied into Sourons very being, which is why he's able to see through the eyes of the ring bearers and can also influence and curupt them. I'm sure you know the rest, he then helped the Elves of Eregion craft the rest of the ring. Back to the one ring, after all of that, Souron gos to mount doom (mount doom is very important here too, it's a evil domain tied with very powerful dark arts and magic, also things that are created with the resources there, can only be destroyed there) to craft the one ring, while he is crafting it, not only all the evil power from mount dooms domain but also his own along with his will and essence etc. Is infused into the ring, he then speaks a dark toung, again very old dark, powerful magic while he's conjuring black magic he binds his actual soul to the one ring. (Super important) Main reason behind this (apart from full power and domain control over all the people of middle earth) he can never die, i mean he can't die anyway, not really, even when he died in lotr, he was never truly dead, it was only his form that died, he will forever be, like I a ghost I guess, doomed to roam middle earth, unable to be seen or heard, unable to speak or take any form, compleatly lifeless, only him and his thoughts and hatred living on forever in him, until the end of time itself, like limbo, imagin, thats torture within itself, reason I say this is because that's the most crucial bit, that was the whole point of the one ring, it was to stop that from happening if he was to ever "die". As he bound is soul into it ring, there was no killing him, as all he had to do was wait until he had enough power to take a form and then find the ring, when he wears the ring he also regain all his power and is basically back to his normal self. Also to confuse you even more, if he regains his full power and you somehow stole the ring off him, destroying it won't destroy him, you would have to kill him after too, buuuuut, at least he won't come back because you've already destroyed the ring. The reason they were able to kill him by destroying the ring in this case is because he couldn't regain his form and was really weak he was only like a shadow, like a floting soul, so basically the ring was holding his soul, binding it to middle earth. But because of the ring binding him, he was still able to have influence and talk, be seen and to an extent touch things with magic. I hope that made sense dude, but honestly, read the books man.
@@Readingmoth thank you for your feedback. My mom read the books to me when I was little, I missed alot of it obviously😊 I will definately read them as an adult. Thank you again for your time to explain this to me🤙
@@michaelfrieszell6745 you were a lucky kid man, to have such a cool mum. And any time bro, honestly man, you will fall in love, the world and lore Tolkin created is by far the most amazing and beautiful, no one can touch him, to this day no one has ever replicated this type of work. To creat a life time story, from beginning to end as a time line, all detailed, all characters and creatures have a past present and future, thousands and thousands of years worth of history. To this day his work blows my mind out of my pocket ahaha. Hope you become as obsessed as I am aha. Take care fellow brother!
He went to Washington DC and became a politician
No one in Washington DC is smart enough to be Sauron 😂
@@MisterDougal lol
He resides in Kreml russia nowadays. But as we can see, can't definitely take a fair form anymore.
@@esjope You still haven't figured out the U.S. is the evil empire and not Russia, have you?
I heard he might reinvented himself as Kanye. But I don't peg Sauron as a gay fish.
I feel sad and lost because of Sauron's exile to permanent impotence.
He is the one that instigated the journey.
There’s no hero’s without a villain, and he was one of the best
He will regain some potence when Morgoth returns in the Dagor Dagorath.
I feel Tolkien wrote himself into a corner when he killed him off and the rest off the magical beings. I adduced it from Tolkien’s troubles in writing a sequel to LOTR. He described it as more of a thriller and not fantasy, and so he dropped it. But he created it, he could’ve resurrected it.
@@awallner1 it didn’t need to continue the story ended perfectly there, I’m glad they didn’t make a sequel connected to the story , but plenty of other stories could take place in middle-earth before or after the Lord of the rings. With Sauron gone and morgoth gone , there is no evil deity left so it could cause a new one to arise or become corrupted, there is no light without darkness and peace never lasts forever
@@awallner1 So true....but he had spent so many years creating the Masterpiece that he probably did need that rest.
It's just brilliant....brilliant I tell ya.
Nice AI
A cautionary tale. Isn't it?
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I feel like sauron, learned that from no one.
I wonder where did all the Balrogs go since maiar cant die
In Germany
@@nenitaschmidt7197 what they up to in germany lol?
They entered Street Fighter
As a Maya, Sauron's spirit is immortal and will come back again with Morgoth
The ALIEN is waiting for him to cast him in space never to return, frozen forever.
He was destroyed too that's where he went
Why didn’t Elrond try to stop Isildur from not destroying the ring?
What would Sauron do if Melkor came back in the third age where he had the one ring?
Do you all think it should be a continuation to the story after lord of the rings? Who would be the new dark lord? Would Aragon bring the Numenorians back from his bloodline with Arwen?
And now that Sauron is gone, would the rings still work for the elves?
Middle earth is my favorite lore of all time. It’s sad that they’re ruining it with rings of power.
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In the books they didn’t know to destroy the ring, Isildur studied it for a year, but when he started to feel it’s power over him he began a journey to Rivendell to get Elrond’s advice. He was killed on the journey. The films made isildur look a lot weaker and less honourable than he was in the books unfortunately.
@@mickymickymike4105 Elrond like many others knew he couldn't bear the ring, not even for journey to Mt. Doom to cast it into the flames from which it was forged.
@@NCfrost82 I meant like literally trying to stop Isildur like fight him.
@@DrewPeabaws that makes sense. I see that is a flaw in the movie because there is no way Elrond didn’t put up a fight with Isildur if he knew that destroying the ring would bring peace to the world. That’ll be like me with a gun in my hand and someone in the government was going to press the red button to set off nuclear war. I’m not going to let them push that button if I could help it lol.
He moved to Hogwarts. Goes by the name Peeves now.
I have a question for someone that knows more than i do. I hope i dont sound dumb when i ask this but, if sauron was alive before the ring and made the ring, why does destroying the ring also destroy him too? Its seperate from him.
I'm pretty sure it's because when he created the one ring, he infused his will, his essence, his being and soul into it, so without the ring, he does not exist.
In the most basic form i can put it is, after Morgoth was defeated Sauron was weak, went into hiding, some thought he was dead, while the others that didn't, were hunting him. Lucky for him he could take the form of other people (a shape shifter) so he disguised himself as the Lord of Gifts then helped and influenced a certain elf with the methods/magic for crafting/creating rings of power, after gaining this knowledge and art, Celebrimbor crafted the 3 elven rings by himself. The methods and arts in creating/crafting the rings is very important here, because this is Sourons own method and magic and to top it off, its a really dark magic, one that gos back to the creation of time, woven by the songs of morgoth of what he found in the abys. So any object created and crafted in this method will be tied into Sourons very being, which is why he's able to see through the eyes of the ring bearers and can also influence and curupt them. I'm sure you know the rest, he then helped the Elves of Eregion craft the rest of the ring.
Back to the one ring, after all of that, Souron gos to mount doom (mount doom is very important here too, it's a evil domain tied with very powerful dark arts and magic, also things that are created with the resources there, can only be destroyed there) to craft the one ring, while he is crafting it, not only all the evil power from mount dooms domain but also his own along with his will and essence etc. Is infused into the ring, he then speaks a dark toung, again very old dark, powerful magic while he's conjuring black magic he binds his actual soul to the one ring. (Super important)
Main reason behind this (apart from full power and domain control over all the people of middle earth) he can never die, i mean he can't die anyway, not really, even when he died in lotr, he was never truly dead, it was only his form that died, he will forever be, like I a ghost I guess, doomed to roam middle earth, unable to be seen or heard, unable to speak or take any form, compleatly lifeless, only him and his thoughts and hatred living on forever in him, until the end of time itself, like limbo, imagin, thats torture within itself, reason I say this is because that's the most crucial bit, that was the whole point of the one ring, it was to stop that from happening if he was to ever "die". As he bound is soul into it ring, there was no killing him, as all he had to do was wait until he had enough power to take a form and then find the ring, when he wears the ring he also regain all his power and is basically back to his normal self. Also to confuse you even more, if he regains his full power and you somehow stole the ring off him, destroying it won't destroy him, you would have to kill him after too, buuuuut, at least he won't come back because you've already destroyed the ring.
The reason they were able to kill him by destroying the ring in this case is because he couldn't regain his form and was really weak he was only like a shadow, like a floting soul, so basically the ring was holding his soul, binding it to middle earth.
But because of the ring binding him, he was still able to have influence and talk, be seen and to an extent touch things with magic.
I hope that made sense dude, but honestly, read the books man.
@@Readingmoth thank you for your feedback. My mom read the books to me when I was little, I missed alot of it obviously😊 I will definately read them as an adult. Thank you again for your time to explain this to me🤙
@@michaelfrieszell6745 you were a lucky kid man, to have such a cool mum.
And any time bro, honestly man, you will fall in love, the world and lore Tolkin created is by far the most amazing and beautiful, no one can touch him, to this day no one has ever replicated this type of work. To creat a life time story, from beginning to end as a time line, all detailed, all characters and creatures have a past present and future, thousands and thousands of years worth of history. To this day his work blows my mind out of my pocket ahaha.
Hope you become as obsessed as I am aha.
Take care fellow brother!
@@Readingmothyou are a gem my friend
I wonder if another being of power could restore him?
They are there waiting to cast him back in hollywood hahahahaha.
@nenitaschmidt7197 Good one, but wouldn't the lords of money want to bring back Morgoth next.
@@nenitaschmidt7197 he currently is in that form on rings of power..
The only being that can pull him from the void is Eru - and he won't be doing that lol.
@johnbunceiii2668 he's not in the void like mogoth. He is still on middle earth.
FIrst!