Which Race Cars Can Take Eau Rouge Flat Out? (2022)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Should I do the same with vintage racing cars? Old F1, Old NASCAR, Group C, Group B, GT1, DTM, Super Touring...
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#EauRouge #F1 #Nascar
I added speed at Eau Rouge apex and minimum speed though turn 3 and Raidillon apex as well as the percentage speed loss:
0:18 formula1 312 307 1.6%
0:34 formula2 283 276 2.5%
0:51 formula3 258 251 2.7%
1:10 formula regional 236 229 3.0%
1:30 formula4 210 199 5.2%
1:52 super formula 282 279 1.1%
2:09 indycar 274 268 2.2%
2:27 formula e 243 237 2.5%
2:46 dpi 280 276 1.4%
3:03 hypercar 280 278 0.7%
3:20 lmp2 272 267 1.8%
3:38 lmp3 245 239 2.4%
3:56 super gt 274 267 2.6%
4:14 gte 245 234 4.5%
4:34 gt3 248 241 2.8%
4:53 porsche carrera cup 246 212 13.8%
5:14 gt4 227 195 14.1%
5:36 nascar cup 262 200 23.7%
5:56 supercar 254 207 18.5%
6:16 tcr 220 208 5.5%
6:38 btcc 222 210 5.4%
6:59 rally1 218 208 4.6%
All these cars make it to the Eau Rouge apex without breaking so that speed number is a good comparison of raw acceleration between the different series since the preceding La Source corner is very slow, sharp, and relies entirely on mechanical grip.
The Porsche Carrera Cup, GT4, Nascar Cup, and Supercar classes are all more power than grip series.
That hypercar run was butter, only losing 0.7% speed.
Respect to you my man
Doing gods work
He did the math.
nerd
@@jasonaraga7710 and they get paid a lot of money.
Interesting comparison. I like how it highlights how speed doesn’t make the corner, the handling and weight of a car does
And downforce!!
More so, handling, weight and downforce decide what speed you can make the corner in.
@@ba97racing You're just repeating the same things already mentioned.
It's the balance of all of these things. Speed as well because it generates downforce, if the car has the right bodywork.
Some of the cars towards the end were just going so slow that less downforce was required.
“That’s Radillon actually”
fuckin hell i was hoping SOMEONE would say it lmaooo
You my man are correct
There's always one.
🤓🤓🤓🤓
Correct
The fact that you can rip a nascar stock car through there going 200 kph tells you everything you need to know about how awesome this corner is
Or how boring this bend in the road is
@@OPEK. all drivers would probably disagree, plus the spectators considering how it can literally create overtake opportunities if even the slightest wrong line can result in a wonderful drag race down the straight
@@jameschang5375 wow… an open road with no turns creates overtake/drag race opportunities… who would’ve thought? It’s almost like there no turn there… you’re an idiot if you think this “turn” is exciting…
@@jameschang5375 Its actually very comparable to nascar.. the most boring racing series in the world. "WOW LOOK HOW FAST HES GOING?!" "OMG IS HE SLIGHTLY TURNING THE WHEEL? THIS IS NEVER BEFORE SEEN STUFF"
@@OPEK. bro just deleted a comment saying this an “open road with no turns” while some cars literally have to brake for the corner😂
0:18 formula 1
0:34 formula 2
0:51 formula 3
1:10 formula regional
1:30 formula 4
1:52 super formula
2:09 indycar
2:27 formula e
2:46 dpi
3:03 hypercar
3:20 lmp2
3:38 lmp3
3:56 super gt
4:14 gte
4:34 gt3
4:53 porsche carrera cup
5:14 gt4
5:36 nascar cup
5:56 supercar
6:16 tcr
6:38 btcc
6:59 rally1
porsche carrera cup, gt4, nascar cup, supercar, couldn't take the corner flat out
7:21 satisfying cornering...
@@SFlare good old bathurst
Legend
So the thing is that cup car is the old Gen 6 so possibly the Gen 7/Next Gen can take Eau Rouge flat but lift for Radillon
@@wolfgamingnetwork3542 a standard Next Gen Cup car might still have to lift, probably could go flat out in the Garage 56 NASCAR Next Gen car
You should do a video where you take them all through flat out, no matter the consequence, just to give a comparison of where they lose control and at what speeds.
That's what I thought this video was going to be XD
That's what this video should've done
@@brandoncullen4189 Yuu Takasaki's Audi R10 TDI only lost 8kph through Eau Rouge. (265 to 257kph)
Genuinely quite surprised that the NASCAR Stock Car took the corner as well as it did. You don't usually think of those big heavy beasts being nearly as nimble as an F1 Car.
From what sim racing has taught me is that they are not but also since they are doing more road courses now I wouldn’t be surprised if the new cars are a little bit easier. Compared to previous gens
@@hitrecord7830 Much easier. Independent rear suspension and the wider tires made a huge impact on mechanical grip. Plus the aerodynamic improvements with the flat underbody and front and rear diffusers allow the car to create more downforce and hold higher speeds in corners. Now if they would just add power back to the engines, we’d be in business. They used to be 850+ but now are capped at 675.
I feel like it could have been better still if they didn’t get so far over the first rumble strip, looks like it really upset the car.
Probably because people think of them as heavy tanks, but thats just relative to something like an F1 car. Really, they are still purpose built racing machines. Put a good road coarse tune on it and in sure it could keep up pretty well considering it is out of it's element.
@@volo1826 also another thing I hear In driver interviews is that they actually prefer stock cars to be a little bit difficult to handle. Not sure why tho
I would love to hear the Gen 6 900hp NASCAR stock cars through that valley :))
Was just thinking the same thing. Hearing those things in person back then was amazing.
The stock car might’ve not won the challenge but it most definitely sounds the best. Nothing better than pure American V8 power
Surprised the touring and rally cars were able to do it flat out
Rally cars are pretty agile you know...
@@milesr4609 ik, just didn't expect them to have that much downforce
zero racing knowledge
@@epicshibexd5049 Its not the downforce, its the low topspeed
@@devlintaylor9520 someone really doesn't know about rally
the formula E one was almost illegal
Boring...
@@milesr4609 care to waste more time?
tbh i thought it would be faster. the formula 3 car was significantly faster, and the formula 4 car was slower, but also had half the power.
Almost illegal? Every race car here is all legal, and you thought Formula E was meant for the streets ONLY? Why would Formula E even race in Mexico (Hermanos Rodriguez), a permanent circuit also used in F1, in the first place?
@@UltramanMebiusBrave i think he talked about how slow was compared to other cars...but idk.
For how little downforce a stock car has it did was better then I actually thought it would up there and it was still super fast even though it had to lift.
Yeah cup cars are not super fast in corners but make up on straight line speed. Especially pre 2014. I don’t know if you know Watkins Glen but in 2011 the cars could get up to 305 kph or 190 mph before the bus stop turn.
@@cameronboan627 I watch nascar lmao and know it very well. Just was surprised because the video looked like this was the 2017 through 2018 cup cars which had pretty much almost no downforce and still made it up the hill that fast. Their weight definitely helps for a corner like that though because it helps plant the car into it, but still was surprised they could go that quick up there. If this was the 2014 cars it would’ve been insane cause they are downforce monsters with 950 hp before 2015.
@@cameronboan627you mean pre 2015 because the NASCAR cup cars were the most powerful in history in 2014 where they never went under 910 horsepower except for superspeedways which were 750 something you probably knew, just pointing that out! Jeff Gordons 2014 Michigan Qualifying car supposedly made just over 1000 horsepower
Most race cars: flat out, maybe a tiny lift
Chad Stock car: brakes and downshifts
Yes, you should try this with vintage racing cars. Would be interesting to see.
Ahem... "The Raidillon is the steep fast right-hander which starts on the remainder of the old Eau Rouge corner.", Eau Rouge (French for "Red Water") being the "flat bit" in between the two inclines at that part of the circuit and so-called due to the stream that runs underneath. 😜
Every car but the NASCAR took Eau Rouge flat out then😂
Who said it's not?
@@AFox-qc4kh Everyone that refers to Raidillon as being Eau Rouge, as in this video, obviously. Duh.
@@TheOneTrueSpLiT but the cars went through eau rouge as well didn't they?
@@AFox-qc4kh Yawn.
Was happy to see the supercar in there😊
Same
I bet a Citroen 2cv v6 can take it flat out. Maybe not make it up the hill but still flatout.
Ross Chastian could do it in a cup car flat out
Karin Asaka's Peugeot 908 HDi FAP also.
That NASCAR sounded heroic!
This is an absolutely great video you should definitely do more comparisons like this and with even more Motorsports like you could do NASCAR modified or maybe the Smart car EQ cup or even like the Thailand super series turbo trucks!
Man that's some obscure racing series but possibilities are endless in Assetto Corsa
@JUST SIMRACING Awesome I love this type of video thank you for doing this
Also the Nascar cup is labeled wrong it's NASCAR Xfinity last season they just changed the cup car so they look different
5:48 nice nice, let's see a Next Gen Cup car go through
Awesome to see 2 of my favorites, the Corvette C8.R & the Nascar stock car featured.
I have no idea why I laughed at the FormulaE car 🤣🤣🤣
Same here.
Great comparison. Wonder how many lbs of downforce each has since we’re comparing cornering speed.
Oh can we see a Pikes Peak car? Fast uphill corners is what those are all about, I'm guessing they should do it flatout
Pike's Peak is a very loose definition, since the only rules are "must technically be a car" and "must have a roll cage". I can turn my Mini into a Pike's Peak car by adding the roll cage.
All that said, I'd like to see any of the Hooni* vehicles take Eau Rouge, preferably with Ken at the wheel for real. Drifting a racing circuit that isn't meant for drifting is always going to be a treat.
Btw! Props for am amazing video of current race cars taking Eau Rouge flat in AC.
Just brilliant 🤩
Thank you!
straight to the point, love it!!
Great attention to detail with onboard camera placement
Thank you! Glad you guys notice this sfuff
That Formula Regional mob is quite bad, the gearbox is anything like the real life one.
Super Formula is 640hp
DPI is 620hp
Rally1 is 380ho plus hybrid
I know it’s just a little thing but, other series have different track limits for example gt3 and gt4 and Carrara cup all follow the two wheel rule except for that instead of the white line it’s the curb. Maybe retrying this with those cars could see them go flat out but that could be a stretch
The NASCAR Cup car would've used the run off area near the stands to exit the corner instead of slowing down to stay within track limits also.
Eu Rouge is not scary that might have to lift, but the idea in a race, if you lift too much, you'll carry that speed deficit all the way up the hill. With other bearing down on you, you gotta have the balls to get as much speed thru there, knowing it could end badly either way.
question is the new formula e gen 3 cars with 470hp, and still using non-slicks, capable of doing it flat?
That’s Radilion acctualy
WTF1 💀
I think an interesting "flat out" video would be the uphill section of Bathurst. I drive a Formula Fiat (FA01) on it and can go flat out from the left-hander all the way to the downhill section
Let's see how the Gen 7 NASCAR Cup Car does, improved road course time a ton
Almost definitely still a brake and a downshift. Next Gen is still slower than the Aussie V8 around road courses by some margin.
It would probably have a flat tire even before entering the curve
It has less downforce than the gen 6 though
@@menopiko3584 um. No. It has less over body aero and actually has under body aero, and wider tires giving more mechanical grip.
@@menopiko3584the downforce that the gen 7 lost is made up by the ground effect
Dunno if anyone has said this yet bruh the nascar did surprisingly well it kind of seemed like it better than the gt4 and maybe even the Porsche cup maybe I’m wrong bout the comparison tho
NGL to take EAU Rouge flat out, aero should be good with ample downforce on the front and rear, and just no oversteer, that's why cars with high HP and RWD like NASCARS and SUPERCARS can't take it flat out due to that, but on the other hand there's TCR which are FWD (ofc) and so they also flat out easily !!!!
Gearing matters alot here too. some of the cars near the end that really didnt have a whole lot of aero but werent all that fast either could take it flat. its like if the nascar could only get to 200kph by the start of the corner, it would not have had to lift.
@@sprolyborn2554 Yep if you are in high RPMs close to the rev limit you can do it flat out too IMO! But NASCAR as you gave an example has that STRAIGHT OVAL setup on aero and it's not about downforce in them. They want less drag for more speed but here on-track racing, if you have better downforce and better grip and cornering speed, the Vmax your car is going doesn't matter, so that's why it happens here too...
the indycar one was pretty smooth
I was supremely entertained! Thanks!
porsche cup can do it, but it's tricky with the engine hanging out the back
The Raidillon is really amazing to take IRL
I love the nascar cup cars distinct deep roar in the engine
really good video.
Staggering that a hypercar is just as fast through as an Indycar/F2/Super Formula ❤
The high horsepower cars have so much downforce they really didn't have that much of a problem. The low horsepower cars just weren't fast enough to put it to the test. Super interesting vid. Ty.
Then you have the NASCAR Cup car with all power and minimal aero.
Awesome video......can you do a full lap comparison of the cars on Laguna Seca
A bicycle could take it flat out
No, no. He has a point.
BUT! Could the bicycle even go uphill that steep?
Tour d France did a stage in belgium and used part of Spa, including Eau Rouge-Radillion.
P.S: also it did a stage in Le mans.
@@milesr4609 did they go uphull or downhill at Eau Rouge and Radillion?
@@PunnamarajVinayakTejas uphill, they do far worse "ups" on the mountain stages.
Nice video dude! Super interesting :D
I find this title very misleading and wrong.
1. This should be Eau Rouge AND Raidilion.
2. From the title I was expecting you to take the ‘corners’ flat out. Meaning no lift, no brake. Therefore seeing which cars could it and which could not. But you clearly did lift/brake, so it’s not flat out.
I couldn't drive a golf cart thru it flat out.😂I guess it's the driver!
Dang. F1 is 43 kph faster(313 ) than Indy Car (270) and 32 kph faster than DPI (281). Still the 3 fastest though. More power Indy Car!!!
Coming in 2024!!
A south african toyota hiace taxi with 21 people on board would take it flat out ....on the grass
I was going to say, most aero cars made through full throttle
I just want to mention: at least in the Cayman GT4 you can take eau rouge flat out
Why do you even use the brake when ur testing if the car can make it flat
If those cars are in a mod pack for whatever game that is, there cars have good car sounds
FIA F3, for me one of the best sounding race cars ever
Btw i would like to see how the Turismo Carretera does in Eau Rouge-Radillion but unfortunately you have to download the oficial simulator, otherwise developers will demand you
Argentino?
@@milesr4609 mexicano pero que viva el TC
@@satolatifi24 grande bro!. A mi entender lo que creo que pasaría con el TC seria que no podria hacer eau rouge por que es un tipo de auto muy pesado. Tambien sería interesante ver que haría un STC2000.
@@milesr4609 si, igual que no tienen casi nada de carga aerodinámica influye, igual y un TC Pista podria no se, el TC2000 yo creo que si la hace a fondo, seria interesante ver
@@satolatifi24 también el Top race seria interesante. Son los autos mas rápidos de nuestro pais.
All of them. Some only once tho
It"s when the Formula E car arrives that you think. "Ohh F...k is this going to be the future...."
RIP HOLDEM
So basically, cars with high downforce, or cars with low power so they can't get going too fast can do it flat, and high power but lower downforce cars have to brake.
Formula 2 and 3 cars sound beautifyl
The corkscrew at laguna is the best corner in all of motor sports.
2022 nascar not 2021. The Gen 7s got more lateral grip.
Song for the curious: Everywhere I Go by ONLAP
Eau Rougue is the best corner in all of Motorsport undeniably
I dunno max, T1 at Monza is quite a blast
Any race car from enterprise rentals, hertz rentals, budget, etc can go up eau rouge
I was thinking you would just send it and crash if the crash didn't handle the corner flat out, I think I'd prefer that cuz I keep thinking "maybe the car could do better without that braking, maybe just lifting would do"
just shows how hard it is too turn race cars esspecially nascar and f1 cars
Nascar cars are not really made for turning and have no downforce at all
@@pedrosilvaproductions Nascar stock cars (which aren't just called nascar cars btw) can have some degree of down force, but you also need to consider the fact the cars are heavy, like _really_ heavy and probably the heaviest car that was displayed here.
@@hehe-IgoBRRRR cool thx for the info a
Clicked on this hoping I would get a better understanding of what “flat out” is, and I still have no clue :)
Flat out = Not lifting the throttle. The reen bar is the throttle imput.
That's raidillon actually
Every car can take it flat out with the right gearing
I had the idea that nascar should have a race at spa
As a drag racer, it would have been funny if a top fuel car was tested on this.
Was suprised the btcc car could take it flat but tcr couldn’t
What mod are you using for the Nissan GTR GT500?
I reckon all of them can take Eau Rouge flat out, as Eau Rouge is only the small left-hander at the bottom of the hill.
The best corner in motor sport is the Daytona trioval/finish line
Every game theres lmp1 i can ALWAYS take flat out legally and i love it so much. Even on hardest diff i kick ass lol
I didn't know any car could....was...was I doing it wrong this whole time!?
Do you have Brazilian Stock Cars in Eau Rouge?
When in doubt? Flat Out.
The NASCAR horsepower is a bit misleading. They had the 750hp package for the short tracks last year with the Gen 6, but now they just run 670hp on all tracks with the next Gen.
It's a road course Gen 6. 750hp
@@THEWINDTUNNEL my bad I thought that was a gen 7
i added super speed at eau rouge and minimum speed though turn 3 and raidillon apex as the percentage speed loss
Very nice video.
Would be cool to see S5000 too
Now let's try Pouhon
🤫
Is this assetto corsa and if yes, what is this track mod
Yes, Spa-Fracorchamps
In real life, most 2022 F1 cars couldn't take it flat out. That means that absolutely all the rest of cars can't actually
Mika Hakkinen was the first to take Eau Rouge flat out on 1998
It was a tighter corner back then thought. Nowadays you can take it flat out even in a touring car
And flat around here
So basically every modern car can take it flat out. Shows how neutered this corner has become in its current configuration. This is why the accidents that happen are so bad. Everyone thinks they can’t lift and then with worn tires they have a big off. It was better when the corner was a test of man instead of machine.
Nice video
Dude, where did you find the FR and F4 mods?
Would have been more interesting if you just kept them pinned to the floor and let what was gonna happen , happen. Instead you decided to use braking, which could be considered subjective.
You should have just stayed flat out even in cars that couldn't make it so we can see what happens.
what's the link for the f4 and formula regional
That's Radillon actually
can you please link downloads for the cars used? I’d love to use the Formula E and Hypercar!
All of them except a top fuel dragster or funny car.