It's Time to QUIT ART as a CAREER...
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TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:35 - Financial Stability
04:33 - It doesn't make you happy anymore
08:38 - Instability is a deal breaker
10:40 - No interest in commercial viability
12:52 - Changing career interests
15:01 - Only doing it for your childhood self
16:26 - Health concerns
18:15 - You want to engage with art in a different way
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Honestly art school blurred the line between personal and schoolwork artworks, im still find myself struggling with drawing for my self again due to constant deadlines, it sucks but I'm getting there. I got commissioned for the first time this month and it feels nice
yeah i feel ya. i think art feels more enjoyable for sure once you have more ownership / can make a living off of it while in school it still feels like you're being "commissioned" to do projects you might not be interested in by your teachers. But congrats on your commission!
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WORKIN A 9-5 WHILE TRYIN TO ACHIEVE YOUR DREAMS! You didnt fail and some income is better than no income. Also its ok for art to just stay a hobby
thank you for this .. I felt ashamed to look for a 9 to 5 to keep a house on my head and not doing in only with my art...
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to try to find that mental energy to work on our after you work a 9 to 5? It’s an extreme struggle.
@@girlonamission1685Exactly. I watched my parents do the 9-5 and never have time for hobbies. One of them was an artist when they were young and completely abandoned art.
That really terrifies me. I want to do art as a job because I enjoy it. I don’t want to work a miserable 9-5 and have no time for art.
Im sorry but what? this is straight up lie, 9 to 5 job will take away ALL your energy to do anything let alone doing art, speaking from experiencing.
Sorry to break it for some but if you ACTUALLY consider art as career than you have to put 99% effort into it, or at l, if you start being comfortable with your current position, you will NEVER achieve anything, trust me from experience i know how it works, i thought i could do my work and art after im done, but i found myself in a struggle where i never have enough time nor energy to do my art, because most of my time consumed by the job and when its not i have other things to do.
The trick is in finding a 9-5 that you love and energizes you. I did the whole 9-5 for six weeks for my first physical therapy internship and still had plenty of mental energy to go home and work on my art because my passion for my 9-5 wasn't draining. I also had to work on an in-service project while doing this and Ehler's Danlos syndrome, where pain and fatigue are one. Was I painting as much that I usually do during a typical semester with didactic coursework? Nope, but I still completed paintings. However, when my internship was over with, I had to return to my other job, which was only 18 hours a week working membership at a Y. That sucked. That was draining. It wasn't the job itself, but rather the toxic environment I was working in. I didn't feel inspired at all--and that was only 18 hours a week. So it's not impossible at all to have energy after a 9-5, assuming you find something else you're passionate about--and it's my belief that you SHOULD have multiple passions.
Personally, art school (for 3d modeling and animation) made me so burnt out that I just quit school and am taking a break, I want to make art with a burning passion but I always remember school and how it made me feel and am absolutely terrified of feeling like that again, have been thinking about maybe learning 2D/classical art during this break but don't even know where to start unfortunately
Take the break you need! Maybe there will be a time it will naturally come back to you, and that may be better than forcing yourself to get back into it on top of pre-existing burnout
Never forget why you make art. It is about doing your thing and expressing yourself. Even if you can't get a degree or go professional you can still do great art and share it with the world.
I experienced the exact same things making 3D bring back anxiety its aweful.... I hope we'll move on and learn to enjoy that again
I am putting art (kinda to the side but not really) as a hobby and a passion and finding a stable job to fund that passion. I hope I can get into the rhythm of making art for fun in my spare time instead of remembering pain every time I pick up the pencil/drawing tablet (due to design school). I hope we all get to overcome this, and get really good at art in the future WHILE still enjoying it🥰
You do know that all art schools main goal is too teach you produce goods fast and often. And to learn to draw what clients want and not you. And take hit of criticism even if theyre wrong in your eyes. Otherwise why would you go to art school? Just to learn to be fast and obedient. That why art school people just burn out. But thats what industries need. Fast working obedient people.
I am the goblin under the bridge aggressively offering you custom comics.
I’ve been partly torn about this for a while. I don’t want to completely quit art because I honestly can’t see myself doing anything else for a career, but lately I’ve been debating on looking into other career options besides animation,
After I finished college I wanted to work in the animation industry and eventually become a showrunner , so I went to grad school to improve my skills, but once I graduated the pandemic hit, I’ve still never made it to an interview or a style test, I’m still working the same part time job that greatly helps me financially but drains me spiritually, and I feel like I’m pressured by society to make something with myself since I’m in my early 30s and still living with my parents (while at the same time I’m worried that others just see me as a spoiled brat because there are people who have it worse than me and consider my life to be privileged).
I feel like I need to do something with my art before I’m too old, but at the same time I’m getting tired and burnt out because I’ve been stuck in the same spot for 8 years
I feel you! I'm in the exact same boat, but please, please let go of the belief that 30s is old, or that you need to reach your peak artistic skills asap! that's never been the norm, old masters were old at their most respected and peak of their carreers because it takes time fo hone your craft, that is normal! the animation industry/capitalism turns it into a desperate race but that is not normal and not ok! you're ok ❤️
So glad you both spoke on this. Keep at it, and live at your own pace.
Life's hard ...i hope u well
I"m a Math teacher and do Art on my free time. The cool thing is I teach mostly middle school and kids love art at this age and sometimes I draw with them.
I'm right there with you. It's only recently that I started wanting to pursue a career as a production assistant instead of a character designer or vis dev artist. I'm 37 and still live at home too. What made me wanna pursue a PA job though is that I was starting to burn out from creating art for social media, or to get noticed online so I'd get a job, or for commissions, etc. I miss drawing for fun, drawing whatever came to mind without the pressure of having to constantly post it online. I still want to work in the entertainment industry, but now it'll be doing something more stable so I wouldn't have to job hunt every time a project ends (job hunting is exhausting!) while I draw or make webcomics on the side for fun. Maybe I'll pursue a drawing career in the future, but for now I'm happier and feel a lot less pressure pursuing this current one. Also makes me feel more confident I can get a job sooner so I can move the eff out finally! lol
My advice for you is to work with a career coach to help you really figure out what path to take. That's what I'm doing. She's helping me with my application stuff too (like resume, interview prep, etc). Helps a lot
I used to be a framer; many of my clients were people who came back to art after retiring from some other lifelong career. Art doesn’t have to be your money maker, and you can always return to it.
😊yeah, I invested 20 years of my life to job that paid the bills and help me raise my family. Leaving the office madness and the incompetent management. I’m going to start again recovering the skills and enjoy my artistic side. My retirement money will cover the bills, finally 😊 dive into all those projects I was daydreaming for so long.
I was studying in animation for 2 years, it's not much but I realized it's not for me. Even tho I kept pushing myself. I burned myself out and stopped creating art for a few years after. It was not until last year I got back into drawing and finally realized I wanted to be an Illustrator/comic artist instead. For the longest time I thought art wasn't for me and dipped my toes into music, horticulture and helping children. But slowly I made my way back to art 😊
Had friend who taught me a great lesson. He’s a music producer and was doing really well. Traveling to Europe and Japan to work with artists. He really enjoyed it but the grind and instability weren’t something he enjoyed, even though he was successful. He decided to change his love of music into a hobby and got a job at the IRS. He’s financial secure and he continues to produce music and work with artists at his own pace and work with the people he chooses. He’s never been happier.
honestly i doubt ill ever get sick of art
but omg at first i thought this was ab nobody becoming an artist or pursuing art - which would mostly be wrong. if that’s what you REALLY want and you can deal with any of the setbacks u SHOULD pursue it
yep! the setbacks are up for you to decide if you wanna deal with them or not
Wow, this really hit me. When you said, "A lot of people think they have to make this promise to their younger self and fulfill the very thing they wanted to do. When that is the really thing that is going to hold you back from allowing yourself to change and grow and try another thing." Thank you for that.
This is true with any career these days. Sadly stability is a foreign concept these days.
Question about the consultation: do you give suggestions on what areas you need to study/work on?
Yes, I agree. I have friends in tech / other industries that are also just as nomadic or jumping around. And yes I will look through your artwork / plans for your career / answer any questions, but ultimately it will all be personalized based on the information you're willing to provide to me in the google form :)
Im working a 40 hour job while working on my art on work/lunch breaks. Also after work. But Im a hustler. Its hard but sometimes you got to do hard things.
This video was so on point for me! I love doing art for myself and only want to create my ideas with no compromise for the most part. Not a way that can "make a living" but I have a good enough following to bring joy and work on exciting projects. It’s like I’m a pro hobbyist lol Most ppl make this idea like a sad thing but it can really be the best decision. Wish I knew this about myself before art school. 😅
I think i could never completely give up Art :)
I wanna work in animation later, but know that it can be financially challenging (especially since I live in Germany and Animation isn't a really big thing here...)
That's why I'm currently studying graphic design and am taking some animation classes/ learning it at home, so that i have graphic Design as a back-up plan, if it does not work out...
I’m glad you show the dark side and realities of the working art world but a lot of your topics lately have had kinda negative undertones. I do art for a living so I’m not denying many of the things you say are true & valuable but I think it’s possible to share these things without making it seem so soul crushing. Regardless, thank you for your content - I hope you keep making it to help young artists.
Wow I needed this.. I graduated college with an art degree and it left me so broken about art I've been struggling ever since. Didn't help that no one believed in me in school xD But aside from all that, I'm working steadily (slowly) on a comic project or two with my gf and it's... coming along. We both work full time at the school we graduated from so... it's a weird feeling, but this gave me a little hope. I don't think i'll ever stop creating, but it gets hard some days.
Love this video! It really made me think about my art career and the couple of times I quit being an artist. I nearly quit before I submitted my art portfolio for art school in 2020. The test scores and my art skills were not good enough for the school at the moment. I took a break and now in public college getting a degree in animation.
It’s a lot of burn out, I started animating on my channel seriously for the past 3 months and juggling that and animation school is so much, idk if working at a studio is for me but we will see
Really love your videos!!
I’m a third year bio undergrad rn and during college I wanted to explore any of my interests besides art, but I always gravitate back to it and I do want to have a career in art one day, so these videos are super insightful!! Ty for your more realistic approach to these topics too 💖💖
Dang... Thank you for keeping it real Michelle. You consistently deliver these hard truths, I appreciate it a lot as someone struggling to pursue a creative career. The last few points really hits home for me, starting from 'No interest in commercial viability' to 'Health concerns'. Been trying to be realistic esp now that I've gotten older, things do change indeed. Need to always pivot and recreate yourself.
Wah, Just the video to hit home. Currently in art school as and I discovered that I can not stand the pressure of making art for something/someone/a show/etc because it gives me massive impostor syndrome/ selfdoubt if I am good enough. I did discover however that I liked doing producer related stuff for animation/creative projects so I managed to land an internship in that! Knowing that the quality of art does not lie with me anymore gave me a lot of rest. As well as having a feeling of being able to reclaim what art for me once was; a way to unwind. Bit of a long winded comment but what I want to say is, giving up art is okay, but there is so much more roles in the industry which keep you involved in the creative process while not contributing to it directly through art. Someone needs to give the creatives their borders, plannings and of course motivation that it's going well!
This is exactly me! I do art as a way of healing, so having it as a job completely takes that away; I found I was ironically the happiest during the semester when I had no art classes and I could make art for myself and my friend group, versus having it be a job; I also struggled much more with school/work-life balance. I’m completely pivoting and switching to Communication Studies.
Even though I love art, it does take a lot of energy out of me and it can take a while to work up motivation; meanwhile, I can talk to people for quite a while and not tire out nearly as quickly, as I genuinely enjoy being around people, in spite of me technically being an introvert.
I’ve become more interested in HR work, and I think this is a good decision as I can keep my art separate from my work, and do what I want to do with it when I want to do with it on my own terms, while still deriving meaning from helping others.
its kind of sad because I ticked all the box here. I can't accept it. its all pointing all the direction of quitting. it feels like I wasted my time trying to achieve being an artist. all those 9 years in animation and I'm not getting financial improvement.
Tysm on bringing this topic, since I was a child I wanted to pursue art but lately with AI on the rise and the low incomes artists receive, I've been reconsidering even going into art school. And for a while been debating myself on what choice to make, since I want to make the decision before graduating, your video was like a sign to me for, not quit art, but maybe maintaining it as a hobby or a temporal job, the competence is increasing and I can't see myself being not sure if I will get paid or not. Art is still something I adore but as it is right now with the current art perspective, where in my country art is not really appreciated, I may choose another career art. Thanks for giving a down to earth point of view, it really helped me.
Im literally like this rn, lwts keep fighting for mental stability internet random!
Sick vid. In all honesty, the artist of the future is going to be a Multi-talented/Generalist of sorts. So like your advice of doing something else isn't the most farfetched as it'll pertain again in the future. Art is a boomerang that always comes back and hits you in the head...
I managed to graduate highschool early so I preformed an experiment. I tried to give myself strict work hours for art, and while I wasn't paid, I got to simulate what my dream job in a creative field would me like (working on my own projects). It was amazing, I managed to make the 3rd episode of my web cartoon (it would be out in august here if you're curious www.youtube.com/@LabyrinthAnimations).
However, I learned something from that experiment, an art career isn't what it's cracked up to be. It was still work and it felt like it. That was when I remembered another childhood dream of mine, which was working in space. Now I'm pursuing a degree in computer science so I can be an astronaut. I'm still interested in pursuing art when I'm older because my body will get weaker and I have to sit down more. Also, as of right now, I still have a small following and the only way I can get an art job is by working in a studio. This will just drain my creative energy and kill both of my dreams.
Omg legit good stuff, thanks 🙏
I’m feeling the art school struggle right now. I’m only in my freshman year and I’m already burnt out with no motivation to do my schoolwork or any personal work because it’s just constant. I’m starting to find a balance though
This is one of those rare instences in which raw candor in content hurts to hear as it hits close to home plus I'm having one of the worst weeks offline hence hearing this almost brought me to tears but I needed to hear this. I hope you don't mind my honest thoughts here. I've been creating art for many years, I stopped creating art in my late twenties and decided to persue a different creative endeavor which failed, and I fell into a depression spiral during that time but as time passed I pulled myself together and decided to return to art but unfortunately my skills and physical health simply aren't there and as a result things are not progressing very much in terms of important art goals hence I'm seriously considering quitting art which I guess isn't as dramatic as it seems upon first glance consideration but there are factors which will make moving on from art or pivoting carry much more weight then perhaps it might for others with a wider verity of career choices and "time" on ones side. I also have physical health challenges hence quitting or shifting from art at this stage of life and attempting to start over and pursue something else is genuinely scary perhaps it shouldn't be, but it is thus hearing this truth really hit me hard emotionally but I may have to consider it regardless of potential finality dunno for sure yet, but no matter how hard it is to hear this I appreciate your honesty ☮️ ❤️
This was a very helpful video for me. Thank you.
Your haircut is just too cute!
This is really eye opening I've always hated the idea of 9-5 and yes you will lose yourself in projects and having a fixed style will definitely not help cuz the projects always changes, I'm still a student and seeing this gives me hope thank you!!
W Video, your dreams can be the chains you need to break to explore other possibilities in life.
I’m currently in the process of changing careers for more financial stability while building my art shop on the side. I went into an art program with naive thoughts of working at a studio, & no idea of how the industry actually works (no one to blame but myself here- it was either doing what my parents wanted or choosing something i wanted & in my haste to apply for colleges, I didn’t do a thorough research on the career); but I don’t think it helped when the professors never touched upon the instability of the career & instead hinted at making great money. But that “great money” doesnt even apply to a new grad… I have classmates working in studios but they dont seem to have that same “gung-ho” they had in school imo…
I really resonated with the segment about changing career interests. I want to go into animation or film in general as a Character Design artist, but lately, I've realized I ALSO like certain aspects of fashion and photography, and just feel like it's very conflicting! It's not what I went to school for, and feel like I'd be starting from scratch (which I would be), so I hesitate to make any moves toward exploring it.
Try taking continuing education classes on fashion and/or photography and creating personal projects on the subject. What is it about fashion and photography that you like? (I was pursuing a career as a character designer, but considered a career as a costume designer at one point, so I'm combining the two for my portfolio).
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I’ve been shamed a lot for quitting my art career (animation) due to both financial instability (freelance was very unpredictable) and even more so health reasons (especially my nerve damage) I had to take several years off from art and just barely getting back into it and so glad I took the break that I did ❤️
But yes, it’s important to address whether or not it makes you happy!
yes! happiness is important to address for sure.
Great stuff! IMO, it's also worth taking the time to make sure you're hearing your AUTHENTIC inner child, free from the noise of labor-dependant corporations, co-opting the kid's voice for an agenda, and our parents who needed sooo much convincing to let us play the game. Likely there were deeper creative sparks, completely forgotten once the whole "gotta work in the indurtry" thing took over. This effort is rarely made, and I suspect could separate the tired jobbers from the spiritually content, and even the game-changers.
Even if your path veers into more mature territory, you'll know that you were led there organically. your inner child has a job, but I'm learning that society corrupts it fairly easily.
I've always been open too other options so it's nice. developing carpel tunnel is not fun. You must exercise light for it. I do not draw often anymore. I'm finding other interests and career paths. Comparing yourself isn't nice too. You just need to focus on your skills and interests to improve for art.
art helps my health, acts as a distraction from the pain 🙂 so think i will never give it up, unless i go blind and people still create when they are visually impaired, just create differently
it's unfortunate I'm running into this video now as a graduating animation major. I've been trying to settle my anxiety over my career for a while now but if someone like you is quitting, now I'm thinking how much harder it will be for me Q u Q ah. oh well, guess I'll just have to figure out where all this goes
I recently graduated from high school and I'm starting to go into studio arts from community college to develop my skills and go into animation. I recently have a commission I've been doing for the summer but I still want to develop my skills to be better in the two years.
I went into an animation program at my uni and I got excruciatingly burnt out, which fueled by the pandemic, issues at my school and how poorly treated animators are. I ended up switching out of the animatioin program and switching into graphic design and business instead. Thinking back, I wished I tried toughing it out more esp since the portfolio/acceptance into the program took so much work, but I'm happy I found a middle ground with graphic design. I am still in an artistic career, but graphic design and the illustrative art I do for fun are different enough so I don't feel burnt out doing what I'm passionate about.
I still dream and working towards being a freelance character designer, but I am also fine with working in either ux/ui or advertising if I decide to go into a more graphic design/business route.
This video is important to me more than ever now. Been trying for YEARS no dice - it's probably time to make the decision if I wanna spend more time trying yet again or just finding something else entirely and just do art as a hobby/form of therapy. Problem now is, I gotta figure out what else I can do because most of the eggs in my basket were all about art 😅
I went into architecture since it would give me(and has given) me skills useful in the concept art industry, like 3d, building design fundamentals, and art side classes. I also needed a degree to go abroad and work and my plan is to eventually become an artist by going abroad either for architecture or an art job. I'm trying to find a workaround and although uni is very much time consuming my art has improved a lot due to being exposed to so many different aspects of creating. It also made me realise that even if I do architecture, I'm gonna face a lot of similar things, like not doing your own work (which I mind in architecture bc I find completing other ppl's plans boring, but I don't mind working on other's projects in art) and trying to find work abroad. A plan B never hurts haha
im currently in my second year of art school right now and its a struggle understanding whether I want to pursue art as a career or not because i LOVE doing it outside of schoolwork and stuff, but once im in the college assignment workflow it burns me out so much and leaves me not wanting to do it. However career wise i cannot see myself doing anything else, so its really a struggle seeing the future and what career outcome ill land, any advice would be appreciated, but yeah im kind of stuck in the middle of it, also financial debt scares me to death,
I deal with this issue almost every time I do art. I have really severe back problems and half the time I do art my back hurts like hell and affects my mood. What I do when it gets really bad is quit art for a few hours or days. Later when I feel better, I go back to it. The hardest thing is that I like making art so much that when I stop doing it, my brain is still thinking of the artwork and bothers me mentally. I find rest in going out of the house, spending time with family, and recently, reading a bit. Thanks for sharing because I'm actually very strong physically and if I'm getting all this pain from making artwork, I'm sure there are many people in the same situation.
What if you're just hard stuck and can't get a part time job so all you have left is to just go full into doing art and just wait for either the art to take off or a job to finally accept you while also going broke in the process?
Im honestly very confused on how to persue my career goal in art (becoming a storyboard artist) since graphic design is more popular where i live. And yes there is an animation school im planning to go to once i graduate high school but im confused as to where i could work and if it would support me since again the country I live in doesnt have animation as something we make yk? Ima have to research that a bit more but worst comes to worst and it doesnt work, ide probably move to a country where it is more viable XD
The US or Europe usually have the most jobs but I highly recommend a animation union job (mostly in LA) because those are the jobs that have more financial stability and offer benefits. I don't think graphic design is a bad option either tho!
I've been having this current crisis at the moment 🥲
I've been drawing for my own entertainment (and I would like to share it to others and make a business out of it) and I would say there's some slight improvement but there's a lot of stuff I need to learn about art. I'm about to graduate highschool and I'm still unsure if I want to pursue fine arts/mma as a career or just a hobby. ( I recently took an entrance exam for the only college in my city that offers fine arts and have yet to receive the results of whether I get in or not till next year so I'm taking a gap year oof )
I'm very fortunate to have supportive parents for this career choice but I'm afraid of disappointing them.
One part of me wants to pursue it and another wants to change plans and I'm somewhat scared on the outcome either way.
Watching your video helped me realize and learn a lot about this topic so thank you for this video ! :))
Glad the video could help in osme way. I think it's worth a try considering you're still in high school, but if it doesn't work out, know that there are always other options. Good luck!!
Thank you so much for your response I really appreciate it and I'll definitely try to give it a shot (人*´∀｀)｡*ﾟ+
Take online course first before Deciding getting into a college which will invure debt. Nothings more stressful than paying off student loans when you don't have to. Mean while have a back up plan to carry you while you work on improving your craft.
I think _not_ doing art as a job is definitely the best choice for me, I’ve realized; I wish it was earlier, but at least I realized it while I’m still in college.
I do art as a way of healing, so having it as a job completely takes that away; I found I was ironically the happiest during the semester when I had no art classes and I could make art for myself and my friend group, versus having it be a job; I also struggled much more with school/work-life balance. I’m completely pivoting and switching to Communication Studies.
Even though I love art, it does take a lot of energy out of me and it can take a while to work up motivation; meanwhile, I can talk to people for quite a while and not tire out nearly as quickly, as I genuinely enjoy being around people, in spite of me technically being an introvert.
I’ve become more interested in HR work, and I think this is a good decision as I can keep my art separate from my work, and do what I want to do with it when I want to do with it on my own terms, while still deriving meaning from helping others.
congrats... i wish i have realized it sooner like you.. but good job on your part ^_^
Yeah, I'll second that. I really gave thought about taking art as a career since in highschool the teachers and my parents really kept going on and on about what course will I be taking in college, and that gave me room to re-evaluate and realize that I would rather have something else as a career.
'Cause art is not the only thing I'm interested in, and I also have relatives and friends that do art on the side while working with different careers. Art is a personal project that I want to work on that I can share with my friends and possibly other people without the need to make a living off of it.
@@lavender__ink wish i had that support way back... not all parents are like yours ^_^
art school was tough because of the isolation and lack of application in everything i was creating... as much as i loved getting constructive criticism, it was a lot of overwork in assignments each week, just to hear the critique, and to do it all over again. I never really got along with my peers either, and being an outcast at school -- carrying into the animation industry, i wouldnt be able to bear it. it just sucks because i put everything into wanting this as a career path, but i freeze a lot now, and even i can tell im sort of beating into a wall, so the only logical thing it seems i should do is to do something else.
I started to turn my channel most self promotions of my art and comics and little bit live streams. I'll never quit creating and drawing. I also started make shorts drawing as well.
That's great!
@@mewTripled I bought one of your hardcover messh the bad demon. I like it and keep up the good work!
(Beginning of the video) Yeah, my pursuit of an art career is on hold until I get a regular 9-5 job and move out and get an apartment. BUT I love making art and just because I'm not pursuing a career in art doesn't mean I'll give up on it.
I never quit. I made a awesome movie by hand so I can feel stronger. Feel well.
thats good!
I plan to go into graphic design as a college major, have i chosen the wrong career path?
My heart sank for a second there
I kept telling myself that I was being unrealistic as a kid, I love art but my confidence got damaged as I got older more and more obstacles got in my way, then I found myself with worsening anxiety health and overall unhappy with life on my 12th year in the Navy and choosing art as a career path I feel was the best choice I ever made for myself.
Nice video but I don’t think it’s for me. It’s all or nothing and by Gods grace I and others will get there somehow. Many artists especially in gaming are often older (40s) who leave their jobs to pursue art/animation and end up working in that field. It’s going to be hard and very difficult but I don’t want to end up doing another job I’m not interested in and always think about wishing to do art.
honestly that's great! I prefer if people are able to continuing pursuing their dreams / goals, but yeah this video is more for people who actually feel like the decision to continue pursuing art is actually negatively affecting their life more than it should.
@@mewTripledI get that
Unfortunately for me it's the first one. 😣 Especially now with my family currently condition. 😞 But I don't think I'll ever quit drawing for real ( still enjoy creating cartoons ♥️😆). 🤔Someday I would like to make it officially full time and a stable income in the future. 😅
I think there's way too many people wanting to be artists and not enough people supporting art. Like if I wasn't disabled I'd probably opt more for getting a normal career and buying art and subscribing to patreons and stuff.
There are people with hundreds of thousands of followers selling the dream of being an artist, particularly online artists. How much place is there actually on market?
This was me with cooking. I burnt my self out physically and mentally in order to become a chef in fine dining . Childhood/teen trauma aside I have lupus .I physically couldn’t keep up with the demands of the job .so I changed from restaurant chef to private chef. The carpal tunnel and back injuries made me leave cooking all together . It was fun at first but the environment and low pay wasn’t worth it . I’ve switch back to art but more as a hobby .a hobby that happens to make some money but it’s not my focus.I have a day job that pays the bills and art is a just an extra bonus that still makes me happy and has like I said ,just so happen to make me some money on the side
I gave up on art over a decade ago. I started again about 4 years ago (for some strange reason). I hate the fact that I barely improved; I'm better than I was in high school but I'm still decades behind everyone else. I feel like I plateaued in my art, and I hate it. I am terrible at improving anatomy and I get horrifically bored drawing from references. I quit art in college, got kicked out of an art community that I thought would help me improve ( they gave me conflicting advice then got mad at my frustration at them). Suffering major depressive disorder also pushed me further away from art. I have no art friends anymore, and am incapable of making any new friendships. I'm so behind in skill and have so little time to get any better and so little time left in this world.
With how much AI is changing things, can one still pursue art as a 2nd hobby /2nd income? It’s what I want to do alongside translation work.
yes, i think art will still be a viable option for a hobby / income source, there are a lot of regulations emerging about AI Art, with one of them being that it cannot be copyrighted, so feel free to continue making your own art, comics, illustrations knowing you have full ownership over them.
As scary as AI is, remember: AI is only so good because it's so derivative. Forget about pleasing algorithms or doing the trendy thing; you can't beat AI at that. Just create what you love and keep your eyes open for a way to make money from it.
The "Only doing it for your childhood self" just hit me too strong.
Yup! I'm an artist and love it, thought about doing it as a career but I also wanted a certain lifestyle that Art wasnt likely to provide. Tech pays the bills, art happens in my free time. I enjoy the balance and no stress about finances.
After 5 years in animation I’m considering going into tech for the financial stability. What area do you work in?
Sometimes art can be stressful. At times it feels as if you aren’t allowed to draw xyz, because u might “steal someones artstyle” without even knowing it.
Never
good!!
Lmao... I cant do anything except art....
Me looking at the title... never!!!
13:55 you sound very angry here, I almost jumped.
definitely went into art out of spite and to prove others wrong - well I did, and now I have no other employable skillsets while the games and animation industries are falling apart and the only survivors seem to be people with family/spouses to fall back on.
Don't do it kids, don't go into a line of work that isn't licensed and isn't stable even if you do make it, solely out of spite. Spite is a powerful motivator but I know plenty more great and successful artists whose full time day job is as an engineer - and they're actually in control of their lives while making art at a professional level. Be like them.
I've spent 15 years of life on Animation, I'm realizing that I like physical work more like washing floors.
Maybe i choose my art as hobby make money on it 😊
the audio is really out of sync with the video
I just lost my sense of purpose. I don't have an audience. I need to build one, but how? Drawing requests/collabs with 14-year-old girls? That's probably not it. I'm familiar with professional artists who have been running their social media for 5-6 years and... almost all of them say they regret getting into drawing. Some are successful, earning $3-4k at 19, but she has a very large audience and immense skill, and she's been running her social media since she was 12.
Sure, I could start from scratch and also spend 5 years of my youth building an audience, improving my skills, and... there's no guarantee that I can make a stable income from this.
By clinging to one thing and banging on closed doors, you miss out on hundreds of open ones.
I started drawing 6 years ago, dreaming of becoming an animator. At first, yes, I enjoyed it, I made friends for the first time in my life, my first love was also an artist. The first three years saw progress, and at 16 I reached my peak, and then... my parents forced me to go to a hated university, and everything went downhill.
No, I kept drawing, taking commissions, etc. But over time, I lost more and more skill, forcing myself to draw just for money.
Lately, I've had a reevaluation of my life. If I continue like this, I might ruin my life.
Basically, I'm a 20-year-old guy who is suffering because he can't draw anime girls.
It would seem that any sensible person in my place would say: "Well, if you can't draw anime girls, then do something else." But no, I'm stubborn, I never give up (which I consider a mistake).
Well, drawing anime girls isn't the most in-demand skill, especially with the rapid development of neural networks and AI. I've lost direction in where to grow, and I don't have my own style.
And this is amid total chaos in my life. I'm a social outcast. I've never had male friends (only female artist friends), never had a girlfriend. I don't even make money from this, except for pennies from furry adopts.
I just don't want to waste my best years sitting all day at the computer alone.
Drawing will never bring me a lot of money, it won't bring me friends, it won't bring me travel. On the contrary, I spend all my energy on this, all my money on courses, ruined my health (got scoliosis and severely damaged my eyesight).
I wanted to become an animator, but they earn peanuts, and in Japan, their salaries are less than at McDonald's.
I wanted to make games, but I'm too dumb for math and programming.
In these 6 years, I could have learned so much... Learned English, Japanese, started a TH-cam channel, new skills, moved abroad, just found friends and went out... but no, I spent everything on drawing, which brought me nothing, and at 20, I live off my parents in a small, godforsaken town while all my peers have moved to the capital/abroad and live full lives, enjoying their youth.
I can't even move out, let alone survive amid the war in my country. And forget about travel, an apartment, a car, and tech. I don't want to be a poor artist. When I went to art school, I thought there was nothing wrong with being a poor artist drawing commissions for $20. Now I understand that I was a young idiot with my head in the clouds, detached from reality.
Thanks, sorry, just thinking out loud.
"if you are working in 9 to 5 jobs you have to appeal to your bosses or directors (and customers)" - sorry but it's ANY job really whether you work as a secretary, as a barista or as a doctor 😂😂😂
Art can make money if you put your work hardwork as senior high i feel confuse, I should take fine art or make my art as hobby make money ln commission 🥺
I always wanted to pursue art, it was my dream. But my parents are a realist and ask me to pursue reality instead of a dream. The career market in my country does not favor art but business. I grew up achieving anything business related along the way doing art as a hobby or personal time. Now I achieved a business career, and have a stable life, I can now have fun with art.
Health concerns being a reason to quit or take a break from art is sadly not talked about enough, which is a bit annoying tbh.
It's not as simple as "Just get a second job while art, bro!" I have RSI on both my wrists and vision loss from retinal detachment. So far the latter is stable and I can still see but health problems kind of affected my ability and confidence to draw. I'm focusing on recovery.
The closest art-like activity I'm happy doing is hand lettering and typography. My vision loss made me have a soft spot for how letters are designed. Drawing game logos are also fun / relaxing and it's easier on my hands to use tools for letter making. I miss drawing characters and backgrounds but that doesn't have to be the only thing I do.
If you have to take a long hiatus from art for a good reason, there is no shame in doing that. In fact, if drawing doesn't make you happy right now then that should be good enough. There's nothing wrong with you.
you forgot one point and factor... you lack the talent to learn because you just cant grasp the consepts of 3d on a flat surface no matter how much you practice.
Honorable mention: don't purse art as a career if you want marriage and kids especially traditional wise( optional)
This is the problem with artist youtuber. There a lot of filler in every video. They ca
Nt go straight to the point. All they want is to advertise there Patreon or Mentorship. Its almost like a Scam like Bobby Chiu did.
Please stop giving art advice!!!! 🤣🤣🤣I hate click bat titles!!!! 🤢🤮🤢🤮
TH-cam works this way, hate the game, not the player.
@@_aiborie I am well with in my rights to hate both if there kill my career and convidence, but thx or the advice!!!