Why Your ART CAREER will FAIL
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That’s reassuring
Ikr
Hopefully bringing awareness to some of these common errors can make things a bit more assuring!
@@mewTripledfor sure! The original comment was just a joke about the thumbnail/title haha, very informing video as usual!
To me the hardest thing is accepting that my design college, that I went to in of the Baltic states, is absolute rubbish, and now I have to build a relevant portfolio as a self-taught.
Yeah it's frustrating when art school doesn't do what you hope it would, but hopefully what you make on your own will be more authentic to yourself as an artist / person!
Omg that’s more or less what I’m doing (I wouldn’t call my program rubbish, but it wasn’t really relevant to the career I want to get into). It’s a struggle to find the right resources and connections on your own, but hopefully it pays off and I wish you the best of luck!
Wow. I also can relate to that. My college left a lot of us in the dark and I felt the classes didn't even help me that much at all. So I'm on the same path as building a portfolio myself.
Bro... I'm also from the Baltics and I thought about doing art studies there, well thanks for saying this. If you don't mind, I would love to hear more about your experience...
@@stuffedheart4001 Well hello there, what a coincidence seeing someone from the Baltics as well. I am from Lithuania and I went to a design college in a capital city. On paper program I went to looked appealing. I actually thought that employers will be impressed by my degree. But that was far from it.
What I learned was that I''ve been pushed by my parents and siblings to go get that degree, even though I didn't knew exactly what I wanted to do. After my useless program was done I did some soul searching and I came across motion design / animation mediums. I googled necessary skills I need to know as someone who is just starting out in animation. As well as what tutorials, studios, and artist on social media I should fallow.
I currently work in shitty retail establishment, but at least now I know what needs to be included in good animation / motion design portfolio. Its just not going happen easy or quickly.
In terms of fundamentals, I always struggle with HOW to study them. There are so many different ways I see people do it, and it gets very overwhelming very quickly 😅. Not to mention the promoting; my portfolio has sat in an unpublished domain for months. I really appreciate this video and the ones you make like it, it gives good insight into what it takes to be an artist that many people don't realize at the start.
True true, I also remember going through the same struggle. Thankfully we live in a day and age now where there are more resources, so I hope the videos I share contribute to helping!!
I feel like the best way is to do it through some sort of class, putting that pressure on artists is a bit unfair, we get into art because we get to draw what we want and atleast for me i would rather make small progress drawing what i like instead of always worrying about what i should be drawing and studying and not drawing at all (adhd mixed with anxiety go brr), yes fundamentals are important but their important the same way math is important, no one likes math no one would do math for fun. So we learn the basics in class, then when class is over we dont think about it but end up making alot of progress (most of the time but u usually end up learning something) same goes for fundementals. Im gonna be 100% honest with u i can count the amount of times i've "studied" anatomy on one hand cuz putting all that on yourself is just plain unfair
@@Pizza874 *angry mathematician noises*
Seriously though, I think fundamentals can be fun if you don't force yourself to learn them. Just draw, and eventually you'll start seeing patterns and build an intuition on what does or doesn't work and why. Maybe not very efficient advice for someone who wants to go pro, but just sayin it's not that crazy to enjoy fundamentals and we exist :P
Timestamps of each section
1:57 General Growth & Improvement
5:39 Financially 7:06
12:07 Jobs / Art School
18:21 Motivation
[Artists charge for references.]
On the topic of art schools and personal growth., I find that the one I currently attend is very different from other art schools.
I had been rejected from my 'dream school' and ended up at another place. There was no required portfolio for entry, and it had a very minimum standard for applying. Perhaps it may have been the level of course I was applying to, but they did go through some very basic stuff like the types of shading and breaking down human anatomy into blocks and spheres.
It's not the greatest school, but it makes me wonder where would I be if I didn't go there. I was really stubborn back then, hated constructive criticism or being told to draw certain things, and didn't understand just how much time and effort it takes to become a professional artist. Prime example of someone who fell for the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I think that when we start out as an artist, we begin by being very narrow-minded. However, once we are able to open up and see the world beyond, growth comes naturally :)
Thanks for sharing your story!
@@mewTripled You're welcome!
17:07 I wonder if there's anyone with ADHD or people who deal with executive dysfunction in the industry who's able to make it work. Not necessarily thrive but at least know how to cope with the demands in the industry. Just something I personally struggle with- like you can be consistent for so long and then suddenly break apart when life throws a curveball towards you because life can be random like that. Aware that it still boils down to one's personal responsibility but if anyone knows an artist that fits this, feel free to share.
It's so damn hard
@@chezzaluna Hugs, we'll get by. It's challenging but not impossible.
I would love to see more content about being an artist with executive dysfunction issues. As someone with the Autistic+ADHD combo, it's a huge burden.
Come to think of it, we probably don't see it because whoever wants to make it is probably out there having executive dysfunction issues themselves (it's me, I'm whoever
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I'm also really curious about that. I finally got my ADHD diagnosis this past year, and so much of my life makes sense! But now I have to figure out how to work -with- my brain for the first time, and it's a daunting task. I might recommend checking out the How to ADHD TH-cam channel, if you haven't already. I've been encouraged by a lot of her videos, and I've learned a lot about different ways of working with my ADHD brain! I'm currently trying to figure out how I can apply the things I've learned to make my creative process more ADHD-friendly, and I still have a long, long way to go. But, because of neurodivergent folks like Jessica of How to ADHD and Pina of the ADHD Alien comics, I know it is possible for me too! It's possible for all of us ^_^
@@TinyDragonOnFire Those two, especially Jessica changed my life!!
The unfortunate reality is that most of us won't be able to be professionals. Skilled artists are a dime a dozen and there are nowhere enough jobs out there for all of us.
As much as i appreciate your views on professional art industry jobs and how to grow online i cant help but feel like the social media part is REALLY outdated :(, nowadays having a big plathform online specially in instagram is literally hell bc for example someone like myself that has an office job of 9 hours doesnt have the time nor the energy to continue with all the reels and popular fandom arts, its merely luck at this point if someone doesnt get super burn out.
Having a plathform of years before the reels/algorithm apocalypse happened ofc if still going to affect the social media traction but for ppl that has tried years to persue with this new model is literally near impossible to archieve it.
As a graphic designer/illustrator ofc my social media has a lot to do with my job opportunities but growing more in followers has become super exhausting and impossible for me todo bc i just cant keep up with making fast commercial content.
The solution is simple: *"If failing at ART SCHOOL is your Fate... Becoming a Dictator is what AWAITS!" -Master Oogway*
oh no
@@panda7915 Oh, ho, Ho! Yes!
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Lol! XD
Nooooohohohoho 😭
I loved hearing you say to diversify yourself. I've been feeling really stuck because I want to do so many things, to point I overwhelm myself and don't do anything at all. Looks like I need to start managing my goals and making a plan 💜
Thanks, I'm glad it helped. Wishing you the best with your art journey!
@@mewTripled Thank you for the advice!
Another big thing in the Motivation section for breaks:
Avoiding burnout &/or ignoring mental health.
Neurodiversity, & especially Hyperfocus can be a thing for us creatives.
Make sure to take care of your ~entire~ holistic health constellation asides the physical part. Everyone’s mind has a 2-way street with their body; proverbial pot holes &/or other road conditions need maintenance.
If one knows they’ve mental &/or physical health issue/s that may need therapy &/or Rx for (especially if it’s chronic), then learn & know thyself; stay aware/mindful of needs where one is at now (today’s strategy/tactics might not work for tomorrow or next week, but might for next month - especially if one has low energy days, &/or menstrual cycles), & get that done.
Prevention > (Chronic)Treatment. It leads to more time for input/output of what we creatives enjoy in life.
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Thanks so much for sharing! :)
cries in about to transfer to uni for a bachelors in animation
It's not hopeless! Hopefully the tips mentioned will help prevent common mistakes / habits people fall into
I love everything you said, it really resonates with me.
One thing I've seen friends struggle with and that broke my heart tho is this:
Sometimes there just are NO JOBS! You can't build a career around no jobs.
So it can be normal to not have an income from art for a LONG time after school. But it shouldn't discourage you!
I've had friends in my uni who had already gotten an education, just because they thought they sucked for not getting a job after their first run. But with a little more confidence and patience they could have easily started their career!
They honestly wasted their time for years not getting payed because they lost faith...
This happened in Germany thing, but maybe others need to hear it too.
Great video! I like the idea of working on specific projects to stay motivated.
i relate so much to creating projects for myself!!! and the physically stepping away from art!! and thank u so much for your video, ever since i started watching your content, i got so much freer in creating and i can see the growth in my art as a result!!!! thank you!!! 💚
You’re awesome. I love all your videos. I think it’s beautiful to share your knowledge and lift other artists.
Thank you so much for making this video. This was great advice that I needed to hear
Great tips here but the title had me so scared 😂
We all need a lil wake up call from time to time 😉
13:21 The advice I needed 5 years ago ..
going over art/career path foundations is so important! i find its something as lot of people forget to do😑
Great vid, thank you!✨💖✨
You are amazing! Thank you!
loved the video but the title when it popped in my notifs scared me bc i just applied for my first art job hehe
Haha hopefully it helped add / spread more awareness of the things that hold a lot of artists back from further succeeding!
Very helpful, especially the last points, I have that tendency until today which is why I went into design instead 😅
glad that you can relate even in design!
literally all your videos have inspired me so much, this one gave me the kick in the pants that I needed to stop being such a perfectionist and just put myself out there again, thanks
I really miss making art.
17:10 I've hired artists that I've tipped and tried to treat very well, and they just do things like overwhelm themselves with work so they don't get the work done in a reasonable time. I'm talking about waiting over half a year for sketches. I had an artist whose work I liked and I was willing to pay up to 10x her asking price (she had cheap prices, and I was offering more professional rates), and then I ended up waiting on her for so long that, even though she eventually got the original stuff I hired her to do done, I had to go find another artist because she wasn't going to be reliable enough.
I don't have a specific schedule, but that doesn't mean I want to wait months and months on end for the most basic stuff.
And because she didn't get the simple stuff done, I never even got around to hiring her for the bigger work where she would've been getting around $350 instead of the $25 she was asking for.
If you're an artist doing commissions, don't screw yourselves over. Do good work (I've had times where I definitely felt like the artist phoned it in on my project versus what they usually did) and do it in a reasonable time. And charge appropriately. If you do a good job for someone, you may have a repeat customer.
Yeah those people who have a discipline art routine only have a part time job outside of art or a art based job. I work full time in home health which I’m at work most of the days and most of the traffic times are during work. I have found it very hard to do marketing and art posting due to the fact I have a non art job. I want to make this a thing and want to sell my art. I’ve been posting when I can for years and have not seen no growth. I feel the only way to stream and content create as a job is to not have a full time non art job.
Hmmmm that Aura. Might have to get that.
also people should remember art school isn't the only way to learn, there are many colleges that also have good art programs that are way more accessible and cheaper! and also nowadays there are tons of online courses to learn from as well.
Love your videos and opinion
I think it is because a lot of people fail. I really could no longer create so I desided to continue study communication. I am just not convinced art will pay my bills. I also did animation and illustraition for a company but they always find something wrong with it and people who pay for art are never happy. I disagree with critasizm. I want to just one thing and then improve on that. But I never found out what would work for me. I guess I can no longer handle being an artist on streoids. I need time to make art not pop out shit everyday. So I lost sight of what I want to do. I now enjoy playing animal crossing and look at art styles and stories I like. I picked up miniature painting. Fantasy characters and I can work on it for a vew months if I feel like it. No pressure. I hope ot will spark something in me again.
How long did it take you to actually get off the ground?
Did you ever feel like making art for a living would "kill" your passion? I struggle with this so so much lol I feel so proud making money from my art but also a part of me is fearful that the "business" aspect will completely ruin it as I grow? Sounds silly as a type it 😂😭
I think for me it took 2-3 years to have my career feel more solidified post graduation. I don't fear it killing my passion because a part of me will still enjoy art, it will just be at a different level depending on my phase in life. I'll have a lot of times I resent doing it, but I never feel 100% angry or upset about doing it. If anything, I'm kind of grateful that my passion toned down a bit to make space for me to be inspired and do other things in my life outside of art. (Which then makes coming back to art more enjoyable ;)
This is what happend to me. Too many things. What I wish I did different is stick to what works for me and not lisening too much to other peoples work ethics. I think if I just stuck with one thing and let it grow it would have worked. I just got so tired of everything that I got burned out and now I can only do something once a while. It is so bad that it bleeds into my college life as well. I can only do things now a vew hours a day and have to take it easy/slow. I miss making art so I work on fantasy miniatures. It doesnt matter if I only do 1 layer of paint each time. I can also work on a model that I love. I used to do animation and illustration also digital art.
@@Tamara-gl5vk Thank you for sharing. The "too many things" is a monster I've been fighting for a while unknowingly so hearing this really gives me a new perspective about settling into what feels good and keeping it simple 🥺💚
Ok, but as an aspiring artist, at which point should I get a cat?
(Lol, just joking ofc, but I feel that every artist I've seen online has at least one cat, and I find it hilarious. It's like a crucial step of the process at this point)
Great video. Thank you for the info :)
Why is this exactly what I needed to hear. Ty ₍⑅ᐢ.ˬ.ᐢ₎♡
Glad to help in any way!
Personally, I want to draw a beautiful decapitated Manaphy from Pokémon someday. ❤❤❤❤❤
After drawing for over 15 years I still don’t have a style. I Can emulate others styles but every time I draw it’s completely different. Is that a bad thing?
Not at all. I think it's good to be versatile in skills / styles and use them when appropriate for a specific project.
Human nature is to seek out the negative to avoid it and be drawing into the drama. Life is theatrical enjoyment!
Drama Drama Drama
Love your videos!
Thank you!
I want to draw a beautiful decapitated or naked mermaid someday.
I’m glad I didn’t waste money on a degree for art tbh
Art school degrees definitely are not needed to succeed as an artist!
Same, I dropped out and I still got a job within the animation industry and all that, so its not necessary you do need to make an effort.
@@fernissofuckingcool i have hope after reading your and mewtripled's comments. Thank you 🫂
I want to draw a beautiful naked mermaid someday.
Damn.
Please talk about AI!! It's very worrisome as an artist
I did! You can watch the video here: th-cam.com/video/GZbgiBE0nss/w-d-xo.html
🙂Okay!
Hi how do I get into a disciplined routine? 🙏
Set a schedule for yourself to do something maybe weekly or biweekly. Posting online and having an audience to hold you accountable is one way, or having a friend or someone to check in on your progress is also helpful. Just getting the thing done and knowing when to sacrifice making everything about your work perfect is also key!
@@mewTripled Thank you so much for replying. Thank you I’ll give it a try!
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Luckily failure is part of success
If I fail to get an acceptance in Art industry then MAYBE getting into POLITICS is not a BAD IDEA at all.
got it. quitting now 😼😼
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