MITSUBISHI 3000GT VR4 VS. NISSAN 300ZX! | BATTLE OF THE 90's LEGENDS
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- 1998 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 goes face to face against a 19994 Nissan 300zx twin turbo! Which 90'sJDM legend do you prefer?
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Man the vr4 for being 20+ years still looks modern 🔥
Right! Turns heads everywhere
Yes your right I wanted one when i was in highschool just didn't make much money back then lol
Nah modern cars look like this classic :')
I love both of these cars waaaaaay too much. I been wanting to get a Z32 Twin Turbo to park up right next to my 91 3000GT VR-4, and my 87 Starion/Conquest TSi
3000gt was a car before it's time
I have a 98 vr4 and I’d love to own a z32 twin turbo as well. They scratch different itches. You nailed it saying that the vr4 is the better cruiser. Even lowered on Tein flex coil overs and with recaro seats my car is comfortable for long drives and aggressive driving. Z32 will do better on a track and on mountain roads
Same class but different driving Styles. Love them both
My Z32 turns on like a charm sitting for years
My dad's 300zx tt started up after 7 years with absolutely no hesitation. Not even a puff of smoke or a funny idle. The car drove perfect and everything worked as it once had done. Unfortunately now since lots of them have been parked since 2010 since prices dropped around that time and they became expensive to maintain it would be hard to get a similar result now after they've sat for nearly 15 years!
Both of those cars were designed ahead of their time. Very beautiful. I feel the same about the FD3S as well. It’s will forever look amazing.
I need an FD in the collection as well. These cars are aging like fine wine
@@MiguelDsm They're gold now. Stunning but almost unattainable now unless you win lotto
I always call these two the forgotten ones since everyone is on the Supra, GTR and RX7 hype train.
They’re the most underrated of the pack
3000gt still looks as good as it did back in the 90s. Epic car!!
Timeless look 👌🏼
Love a clean 300zx. Underrated but they're starting to gain more traction.
Agreed
Agreed. I’m so thankful I picked up my TT for a steal a couple years ago. Cus now the prices are up there
Agreed
Z32’s are the most underrated. They are beautiful and reliable once you replace injectors. Stock injectors are a big problem. I have built my car with 600 wheel horsepower. JDM cars in the 90’s were a special time. Buy them love them and most importantly drive them!
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I had a 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4, 108k miles, one owner, all stock. Awesome car, and very very fast in a straight line. Funnily enough my friend had a 1992 Nissan 300ZX TT manual, from a dig id pull until well over 140mph, from a roll the Z kept up. I thought the Z handled much better and i liked the interior better than my VR-4.
Both are awesome underrated cars. The Mitsubishi is a true GT car that can keep up with some modern sports cars and the Z is more balanced, not as fast but id wager it'd out handle many modern cars
These two cars are very similar in size, power, & styling. Both are notorious to work on😂
That honestly not that bad I’ve got a GTO twin turbo but this guy actually needs to spend some time fixing his as they have some massive issues on the starting system
I've owned a 1990 300zx n/a in 1992 (high-school). I sold it and regretted it. I then purchased a 1992 300zx twin turbo in 2013 with 101k miles for $4,500. It now has 141k miles on it and still runs like a well oiled machine (bone stock).
I absolutely love the 3000gt in red. That's what color mine is too. 30 yrs later and they still look amazing!!
3000GT all day, video look super aesthetically pleasing too.
Appreciate it!
I had a 96 300zx and what I loved about that car was how low and snug you fit in the front seat, it felt like I was sitting in a Vette, true sports car feel
Agreed. Full drivers car
4 years ago, was about to buy a 98 bone stock VR4 when someone offered me the chance of driving a 1990 bone stock 300ZX TT, I was immediately sold, had to bring the Z home (2k more than the VR4 though). More of a sports car as you said, also RWD vs AWD that contributes to that factor, and makes the RWD e bit more easy to work on and simpler.
On the 300ZX TT check the Power Transistor Unit. It sits on the front of the timing cover. The fans cannot cool this unit (especially the series 1) and you will have a dead car. The solders inside lift therefore no contact to start them up. So any person with a 300ZX TT be aware. I relocated mine to a cooler area with some simple wire extension mods.
If stranded let it cool before attempting to start.
Nice video! I had a 1998 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 and a 1990 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo at the same time for over ten years.
Stock to stock the 3000GT VR-4 was much faster - I ran consistent 13.2-13.3@102-105mph in my Mitsu and 13.8-13.9@100-104mph in my Z. We used to race them from a standing start and no matter who the driver the Mitsu was way ahead north of 140mph. Even from a low speed roll the Z would eat it.
I do have to say from what ive seen the Z takes better to mods, I never modded mine.
I miss them both.
Enjoying watching you learn your craft! The drone shots are getting very smooth! Good job 👍
Thank you! Always trying to improve
There is a sensor that went bad on the z32. It causes it not to want to start on cold start. So by it taking 30 minutes it will fire right up. I love my z32TT. I wouldn't it for the world. Lots of mods you can do. I have 500WHP right now and is super fast. My motor was from Japan and an Auto so my cams are smaller, but if I had an USA engine for the VG would be around 600 easy. IF taken care of the car is super reliable. My Dad drove a 93 for almost 200k miles back and forth to work and never got stranded. Not a big fan of the VR4 but that is person preference. The stock z32 seats are pretty nice.
I tend to like the 300zx more but again I grew up around the 240z, the 280z, the 280zx, and the first gen 300zx, and my very first car was a 280zx 2+2. All that said I like both cars. They are from my time. They both were icons when I was in high school and after. Both were highly sought after and both had plenty of mythos around them.
Keep up the great content I love both cars
Bro I remember the nissan 300z twin turbo back in the 90s was like jeeeeessshhhhhhhhh....👌
It’s on my bucket list for sure
Love and own both cars in their turbo trims. The Z32 feels more nimble but 3S is more fun from a dig. As far as looks, definitely subjective, the Z32 looks classier but if you're in the mood for a more aggressive look then bring out the 3S.
Good insights! I agree on the feel of the cars. Each bring their own thing to the table
The 3/S really shines at high speed from a handling standpoint. I dunno about the 300zx though
@@turbo_brian the 300zx tt wins more racing championship than 3000 gt..,car of the year a few times, motor trend car of the year a few times too. Look up " Stillen? He wins plenty of races from a 300zxtt..
@@keckchan7156stock to stock the 1994+ Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4s are faster than the Z by about .5s in the quarter and it doesn't close the gap either due to gearing. 1/4m wise A stock 2g VR-4 can run 13.2-13.6@101-105mph, the 300ZX TT is anywhere from 13.8-14.5@95-103mph.
@@A-S-B-ht1uv you're right due to its awd and the "gentlemen" agreement back in the days? The HP is lil lower than the 3000gt VR -4 and Supra. I love both cars..but I own 2 Z32tt ..,🤫🕺🤸😁
I love everything about the 300zx and it's on that bucket list of cars to own for sure.
I love everything expect for the front end. Timeless cars for sure
@@MiguelDsm I get what you mean. I definitely like the rear a lot more than the front and I'm glad they brought it back for the new Z.
@@MiguelDsm the front has headlights that Lamborghini used for their diablo. Z32 has a better front end than the 3000GT VR4 for sure. No other JDM looks more like a Lamborghini other than the Z32. The front end is the ultimate flex. No car looks as beautiful but maybe I'm just biased.
This is a great video, turned out good man! Id take the Mitsu too. Also thanks for the little screen time! ❤️
Thanks for coming out man! Nice little add on haha
Saludos miguel keep the good work
Always. Thanks Carlos ✌🏼
@@MiguelDsm your welcome bro
Both are the best looking JDM cars of that era, you're lucky to own both
nice video bro
I had a reg 93 V6 300zx and I LOVED that thing! Never felt like i was even goin through a curve much less as fast as I was! Always LOVED the 3000GT as well! Both have always been my dream cars. I almost had a 3000GT that I was goin to trade my 95 240SX for but then It got wrecked so I couldn't trade. Anyhow, great video for sure on these amazing cars!
I have been wanting a VR4 for a long time and it just keeps getting more and more expensive to find one. Its my dream car. 97-99. Especially in Red
Had a red 94 VR4 and loved it. No real issues after a decade other than Active Aero but it was an amazing tourer until I got a big ticket on I65 Alabama. Miss it a bunch.
The drone shots are sick 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! 🤘🏼
I have the 95 VR4 and love it. Still have the active aero and the rear steering. IMO it handles better than the 96 and up versions, just based off my own experience with other people's versions. A lot of people remove the rear system because they can leak, but I've never had much issue with it and I enjoy the way it effects the handling. I like the 300 as well though, those things are underrated.
Can't believe I owned and loved and sold both of these beautiful cars. I prefer the 300ZX, the 3000GT always had the nose up tail down when launching it, the 300ZX was like driving on rails, it just went! They were both super cheap looking inside but who cared. The 300ZX seats were more sporty than the 3000 and hugged you under speed. I miss both of these cars immensely.
You know whenever you wash a car you’re doing the rain dance 🕺🏽 😂. Trust me I live it every day ❤.
3000GT just looks like art on wheels,love the Z also but for me the 3000GT is just gorgeous
Ngl I’ve always wanted to do a 4G63 swap into a 3000GT VR-4 and R35 engine swap into a Z32 300ZX Twin Turbo
That would be the perfect swap for both platforms. Bigger aftermarket to work & fully capable of making good numbers
I own a 1998 3000 GT SL. People tell me that it looks fast just sitting there!
Love your video you should get a 2nd gen mr2 SW20
I have an 89 rhd 300zx now for nearly 5 years. Maintenance is absolutely key on these cars. If its isn't kept up with they can be a nightmare to get back to normal. Both cars are wonderful!
i literally want both of them lmao
i have a 300zx just missing the vr4 lol
Sounds awesome
Straight piped vr4s sound heavenly
I never rode or drove a 3000gt VR-4 aka GTO in Japan. But I currently own two Z32's, one a twin turbo and the other an NA.
The Z came out before the Saturn LOL! So who's copying who?
Good vid man. I love these JDM wondercars. They're a bygone now.
Definitely i will take this buty VR4 the timeless looking and modern options and the Z is always a legend of course. Great video as well 👍
definitely the 300ZX.... typewriter ........ Z.....
I've had my 300ZX TT since 2007 and it's been nothing but trouble. I'm now just putting in my second engine and it's cost me waaaaay more than the car is worth. It's not a show car and just my regular driver. But I owned a Nissan Exa, and a Silvia, and the 300ZX is still my love.
Besides the constant engine problems, the only thing I really don't like about to 300ZX is the foot / pedal space. The pedals are too close together and definitely designed for small feet. I find that I can't drive the car while wearing boots (like work boots), or my boot sometimes clips the brake pedal when using the accelerator. Most times I have to take my boots off before I get in the car so I can drive it.
But when she is running, she drives great, and sounds awesome.
I would like to see Nissan bring out a new modern version (and No not like the other ZX cars. I don't like the look of them at all). Just the same car, with more modern interior, including touch screen iPhone connected radio system with controls on the steering wheel, air bags all round ..... etc.
To solve the body roll I got an active suspension for the 3000gt
Set up - Tein flex Z paired with the edfc active pro
i cant wait to have my 300z running i hope it looks good like this when im done with it :D
I just found your channel, I'm an ex 3000GT owner and probably soon to own an Evo :)
Something about the ZX that just feels more muscley….I always loved them. The design too . Nothing like it. Both of these cars are timeless. Such a great time for Japanese sports cars.
My buddy vq swapped his z with a supercharger and he said loves it. His old motor was always giving him problems.
Both cars still look amazing, I would have gotten a 300ZX TT if they weren't so damn expensive 😂
Great video. ZX Probably a fuel blockage from sitting for a while. New filter/flush should sort that. I had a 91 Zx twin turbo 2 seater in black. Such a great car. Your video reminded me of what I loved. That surge of power from about 3500rpm just pushes you back in the seat. You sit so low and the car handles like it’s on rails. A bit jiggly on the bumps, but man it’s just so nice. Love the look even today. Engine bay is CRAMMED. You don’t want to drop anything in there - it will not fall through to the ground, but I never did any work on mine.
hey Miguel! I am an avid lover of your content even though I am Honda guy I have always loved the Mitsubishi/DSM cars. While I love your lineup with the 2G Eclipse, EVO and 3000GT VR4 I have to ask are you or would you ever plan on getting a 6th gen Galant VR4 or a 7th or 8th gen Galant/Legnum VR4/TYPE S? Obviously you can only import the 6th gen Galant VR4 but I was just curious since you are a hardcore Mitsubishi man which is rare. Anyhow if you have the time I would like to know your thoughts on those chassis. Either way keep up the awesome content man!!
I had a 93 3000gt as my first car. it was a non turbo but it's still my favorite car I've owned.
The no start on the Z could be attributed to the the PRVR solenoid. If it's a stock TT and no deletes have been done the PRVR can give you issues when trying to start the car when it's hot.
Seen that Evo at the All Mitsubish cook out that was in Ramsey MN about a month ago
It's so hard to pick, since they were like a sports car that was ahead of their time!
I can tell you as a z32 owner they're reliable if u can find what's wrong with the car and if u don't know what you're doing because you know the electrical parts are sensitive be ready to pay a hefty price tag at a Nissan dealership this car does require a specialist if not you're really gunna hate this car lol if you fell in love with it since elementary from playing gran Turismo 1 and 2 on ps2 like me you won't regret a single penny spent car still puts smiles on my face jus looking at it lol
That view at 8:27 omg that's as socal as it gets absolutely beautiful
SoCal is where it’s at 🙌🏻
@@MiguelDsm yes sir
“It lacked a lot of popularity vs the other JDM legends”. My man, what on earth are you smoking? The 300zx was one of the most popular JDM cars in the early to mid 90s.
Vr4 is most underrated 90 jdm imo. I'd love to have one
I always was curious about the z32 it's a beautiful car and you don't see them around very much so to get a chance to drive both is a awesome opportunity
Wanted to get it on video. The Z is getting sold soon
@@MiguelDsm oh noooo that car is gorgeous I know it's not yours but it's sad that you won't be able to do more on film with it
I miss my eagle talon 😢 love seeing your DSM though
Dsm guys always seem to miss their cars once they sell them
Well stock to stock the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 / GTO MR (6 speed models) will absolutely destroy a stock Nissan 300ZX TT in a drag race to top speed. Back in 1999 I had a friend with an imported 1996 GTO MR, he ran 12.9-13.2@104-105mph at the strip, Z32s run high 13s all day.
That being said, ill take the Z. Handles better looks better and just a tad slower plus RWD.
Mitsu guys: "yeah those nissans are unreliable for sure"
Thats true unreliability there XD
Facts 😂
04:20 yea definitely battery drain issues, theres allot of little things you need to make sure are off when you leave the car. took me a few jump starts to learn
Créeme que en lo personal se me hace mas raro ver un vr4 a un zx TT, pero igual los dos son una chulada de JDM
Estoy de acuerdo. Casi no se ven. Igual me gustan los dos
Of course everything is subjective, but I disagree with the Z interior being better. I think having everything on the cluster makes it look bulky and doesn't flow. Since the cars aren't stock you can't really compare speed wise.
Miss my 97 vr4. Black twin 20g turbos 3.1..
Man that 3000GT sounds good!
The fact that the VR4 is a hatchback puts it ahead of the competition when it comes to a car you can use on the daily
Both cars are beautiful
Meh with the VR4 as its front wheel drive base has been holding it back in value forever. The Z32 is finally starting to see some traction as a collector car. Good clean cars are hard to find now though as every kid and his cousin tried to turn it into a MK4 Supra cheep alternative for the last 20 years. I’m sitting on a good clean 2+0, Manual that I bought cheep years ago. It’s basically a savings account that I drive about 500 miles a year..
My guy said the 300zx is hard to work on when the VR4 is far worse 🤷♂️🤣 but you aint wrong both are difficult to work on but the VR4 definitely takes the cake on this one 🤣, I'm a z32 owner myself and I enjoy your channel 👍 keep up the good work bud
I love my 93vr4, Pearl white with a black interior.
IM EARLY AGAIN 😭😭💕💕💕
@miguel_DSM Do you know where the oil pressure sending unit is for the 3000gt?
I choose the 3000 GTVR4 , ALthough I love the 300ZXTT also , I ' have had both of them back in my College day in Arlington VA.
Nissans best sounding v6 no trumpets
Vr4 was a work of art ❤
As having a 96 vr4 at 1200hp with all the suspension dun and swaybars I'm biases will always love that ride but if you like to drift then the z wins if that's your thing
That issue with it not starting after its hot could be the PTU going bad
Own both TT Z and VR4. Prefer the Z but I own both for a reason.
I'm nissan at heart but the 3000gt vr4 for the win for sure!! All wheel drive is life!
I'd choose the 3000GT just because of how much better I think it looks.
These front lights were used by Lamborghini in their Diablo and I’m hearing it looks like a Saturn 😅
There's not a single comparison from the 90s in which the Stealth/3000GT ever beat the Z, Supra, or RX-7. The Z is classic Japanese sports car. That being said, the 3000GT is under-rated.
3000 all day any day🔥🔥🔥
Yessir 🤘🏼
3000gt and 300zx are way different when it comes to performance. 300zx is a lot slower around the track. It is more fun to drive people say.
I can see that
Love my 300zx tt
My pops had a Gst now he got a 300zx lol Crazy 300zx tho lol his is NA and got it completely bone stock for 4.5 k last year
Which one did he like more though?
i couldn’t really tell you bro he loved both the cars the 300zx got more investment though
VR4 all day! I like driving my cars and as I'm walking away, my eyes like to be pleased also
LMAO! Shots fired
Love me some VR4 Miguel but I'm biased cuz I own a 91 Z32 TT T-Top Manual 😎
I know how it is man haha. Thanks for watching 🤘🏼
I prefer the 3000gt VR4 cause it’s more aesthetic than the 300z! When will you sell phone cases again? My eclipse phone case is about to break lol
Agreed. As far as phone cases maybe in the near future! Been running out of a lot of stock
I was gonna get a 300z for 500 bucks lol but next time I guess . But currently I’m working on my stealth the body lines I just like much better than the Z.
VR-4 TT..... Beautiful
I wish I still had my 3000 gt, my 1st car after I graduated college and got my first job. My father was po I wasted my paychecks on a car vs give my paycheck over to help with household expenses. We're middle class. Not starving, just wanted something nice with my hard earned money. Anyway the past is the past. I've always had boring cars. Ford tempo, datsun 310, Chrysler voyager minivan, Honda crv
A lot has changed since I lasted watch
You can say that 😅
Isn’t the engine in the 3000gt just as crammed under the hood as the 300zx? I would think it’s worse since part of the engine is damn near in the firewall. I personally think the lines of the 300zx are better on the 2+0 model than the 3000. I hope I can grab a clean twin turbo one day before they are either too expensive or trashed..
3000gt(GTO) style more gorgeous 😍🤩
Agreed!
Look into the cam angle sensor on the z. When they warm up and don't start like that it's either that or a fuel related thing. My z litteraly can sit for 6 months start up and take me 300 miles without a question asked. It loves the road. They hate to sit. Also heads up on the two prong coolant temp sensor. Can cause similar issues. A vacuum leak causes high idle so that's the direction to look in..... the front end looks like a diablo. Lamborghini actually bought the headlight design from nissan for the final run of the diablo... if you walk up to a diablo and peel off the sticky carbon overlay it says nissan underneath lmao
As a nissan z owner a set of headlights is like over a grand. Ain't a lie