My gunsmith used to say that if you buy a Charter Arms gun, don't expect to shoot more then 1,000 rounds thru it before having to retire it. I have always looked at them, but have never purchased one. The two reasons you pointed out in this video were excellent examples. thanks...
I can't talk about the new ones, and I never owned a charco or a charter arms 2000, but the 1st generation charter arms are sweet little guns, but they are there own little creatures, and once you understand this they function quite well, one exception to this is when someone feeds a lot of got loads through there gun, yes they will takes some of it, but for tge most part they were designed for standard pressure ammo, and if you stick with standard ammo they can last a very long time, I've owned 4 undercover,s 2 pathfinder,s and a 44 bulldog, all 1st generation and all shot very well, I can't talk to much on how well the bulldog would hold up long term because I only shot a couple hundred rounds through it before I gave it to my nephew as a wedding gift, 15 years later he still has it, but it's his nightstand gun, but I have put a lot of ammo through the undercover and pathfinder models, and they hold up just fine, most often, people complain because they don't understand the guns design,
Some of you may not be aware of this company but there is a gun company called Glock that comes out of Austria that have been using polymer frames for a long time now with major success. Also there are all types of other firearms manufactures that use polymer frames in there guns. So let me ask you this what exactly makes you think polymer frames cant be used on revolvers too?
Its polymer.. its not hidden , being the grip frame on a Charter includes the trigger guard ... .. I have several Charters with POLYMER grip frames .. they work... My LCR357 seems to work well ..
I bought the Pathfinder in stainless. It is steel with a brushed stainless finish. At the time I didn't know it had a poly trigger frame. After reading the informed comments I'm ok with it. Glad I didn't spend $500 on a new Walther PPKS and then find out it's made of ZAMAK die cast pot metal 94% zinc, 6% aluminum.
I am looking at potentially the stainless version of this. All the Ruger LCR's at my local stores are sold up, but they have this in the real stainless version.
These can work. But when you get one, make sure to run your fingernail along the triggerguard. You can tell right then and there if its a plastic or steel grip frame. If it is plastic, i would still walk away. You aren't able to find an online deal or is Michigan a bitch about that?
With the exception of being a magnum this gun looks very much like my good old High Standard Sentinel 9 shot... Thanks for filling us in on the plastic frame because I really do want a mag, but will steer clear from this model!
Before you express your personal evaluation I believe you should do a little research. The plastic used is much more durable than the aluminum frame. The aluminum has a tendency to crack when bumped or dropped and have a tendency to crack in extreme cold. The plastic frame is more pliable and therefore more durable than the aluminum even when dropped or in extreme cold.
It's amazing to me with TH-cam how people can make videos & have no idea what they're talking about. The "plastic" grip frame is same material used by other gun companies as in upper end water softener valves that last for over 30 years under pressure. It's good stuff. Pound for pound, it's stronger than steel & keep weight down. Don't worry about it failing. The comments he made about the rest of the frame where the aluminum panels are screwed together is standard for the industry-don't worry about that either. It's a great little piece.
I see a lot of comments about “cheesy plastic” and the OP condemned this revolver with no mention or apparent knowledge of what polymer was used. Modern polymers and more than up to the task
I'm twelve seconds into this video and this guy has pointed the muzzle at his face twice, I'm going to consider this content "For entertainment purposes only" from here on out. Stay safe folks.
Never dry fire a rim fire cartridge pistol. That's a quick way to ruin the gun as well. Always have some empty shells in there when dry firing for practice.
Depends on the age of the rimfire pistol/revolver in question since nearly all modern ones should be able to be dry fired safely without damaging the gun, anything maybe 25 years old then you might need to be careful.
@@kb6069 Generally speaking, the manufacturing has gotten better and is it a higher quality than in the past, like with all technology, not just firearms things are made with better metallurgy and since computer design and fitting of parts is better.
i have the Pathfinder (regular) .22WMR snubby - it also had the glass-filled nylon frame... my solution was to buy a used stainless Charter Undercover frame ('trigger guard') on that evil Internet auction site... about 5 minutes of work, and voila: an all-stainless Pathfinder! mine is a great shooter and i *highly* recommend it...
I was wondering since you pointed out that the polymer frame might fail have you ever seen or heard of a case where the polymer actually failed. It looks to me like there is plenty of support on the reverse side. If it was my revolver and I was worry about the polymer failing I would extend the metal bridge the entire length of the opening and that would strengthen it considerably at minimal cost.
I just bought one of these today for my grandaughter with the Raspberry and stainless finish.Out of the box it was bone dry,no oil what so ever.And very stiff.I gave it a good coat of Ballistol and a little Rem Oil.Then I fired 100 round through it.50 CCI HP+V 30 grain JHP rounds,then 50 Winchester 45 grain Dynapoint rounds.No misfires.I also found I needed to use the 12 O'clock aim at 10 yards but I'm not complaining.It is what it is.The only time this revolver will be used is when my grandaughter comes to visit and she wants to shoot.Taurus now has a 22 wmr revolver that'll be in the stores by early summer,I'm anxious to give that one a try.I think it's called the 942 with 22LR & 22wmr 8 round versions.But I've yet to find out if the grip frame is plastic or aluminum.Good video here.
I'll come back for your thousand round video. In my opinion the plastic is probably fine as it's pretty obvious that you don't know how these are engineered or built.
There was no reason Charter Arms couldn't have made the triggerguard/grip frame out of aluminum. You're right, for the money they're asking for one of these, that should be made better.
I think mine is a older version of this exact one in the vid cause mine has a chrome charter arms logo on both sides of the handle and the handle frame isn't plastic it's solid steel plus my spring for the hammer Is green
I bought one if these POS in .22 WMR. New, out of the box, could not eject spent brass and 3/8 bullets went throught the target 180 degrees sideways, with others showing a degree of "tumbling". AFTER being "repaired" by Charter, extraction is marginally better, but still not smooth, and the keyholing is no different. It is back for further repair work.... The gun is garbage, and customer service from Charter Arms is even worse than garbage.
I was wondering if these did come on the larger caliber guns. Maybe its only in their "ultralight series." If yours works reliably, I wouldn't dismiss it. But I wouldn't run many heavy +P loads through it. It is lightly constructed compared to say a Ruger LCRs polymer grip frame.
You stated that it was plastic and you didnt notice it because it was hid by the grips but yet the grip frame also includes the portion that surrounds the trigger which is the same part so you should have known it was plastic.
Not really. The grip obscures where the trigger guard meets the grip frame. A plastic trigger guard doesn't have to mean a plastic frame. I know if I were holding it there's NO WAY I'd assume the grip frame was plastic, especially the inside taking all the stress from the mainspring.
Glass filled nylon, not plastic. Ruger uses this material on some firearms. Have never read of a frame failure on a Charter Arms revolver. Pathfinder is a good value.
I have a couple of concerns. .22 magnum duds are rare but in that gun they were regular. I also would want Charter Arms to state what material that grip frame is made from: glass filled Polymer like a Glock or some sort of cheap plastic like it looks?
I would have been okay if it was out in the open that the grip frame is plastic. The fact that its unmentioned is what pisses me off. I know Ruger LCRs have a polymer grip frame too, but we know the track record of their stuff and its construction. This plastic looks like a toy truck you would get for X-Mas.
Toy plastic is a bit of an exaggeration don't you think?! I took off the grips on mine to put a concealed hammer and it looked pretty durable. I carry it near my back pocket sitting on it all day and it's totally fine. People are running 38 +p loads through those same mechanics but you never read about that part of the gun breaking down.
Been considering an Charter Arms 22lr and a 38spl. Because if this video I won't purchase a Charter Arms and can't see how they charge what they do. Right now I'll stay with Colt, S&W and Ruger.
Maybe check them out in person at a local store. I had good luck with some older Charters but made the mistake of ordering this variant sight unseen. You might consider a Taurus revolver instead.
@@JLong-kn4us I am really sorry to hear that and I am shocked that more reviewers don't point out that the Charters arent all steel or aluminum. A good polymer frame can work but at these dimensions, Charter Arms are looking like toys my kid will play with than something thick enough that a self-defender can believe in.
For 20 years or so, H&R revolvers had a plastic tip to their hammer strut! Literally, the top of the hammer strut was plastic where it bore against the hammer. This is almost criminally bad design.
If you look back in time these were mainly used to shoot someone in the back of the head and chuck in a river after u were done. I wouldn't bet my life on one and I certainly wouldn't buy 1 for plinking
I have an older pathfinder in 22wmr all steel, great gun over all. I also had an ultralight .38 snubbie, that one was some sort of alloy frame and was almost too light, but super tough. I would get the $30 aluminum frame
I hate to see Charter Arms take sneaky shortcuts like this. I had an older, first edition "Off-Duty" .38 that my old department issued to me as a BUG/OD gun (we had a huge inventory of guns so any serviceable ones got condemned for department use). I hated turning that thing in before I retired as my former partner had it before me and turned it in when she retired. It was a great little gun. Not as smooth as a S&W, of course, but about half the price and solid as a rock. Over the time I had it, the gun stood up to a lot of +P .38 special rounds and seemed none the worse for wear. I know the company went through bad times during their "Charco" years and those should be avoided, but I hate they would sneak something like this in now.
I don't have an issue with the use of plastic, but the material quality of that plastic is not good. Ruger's LCR uses a polymer grip frame, but it uses glass filled nylon, not that cheap stuff.
I do like Charters. I have an ancient video on the Bulldog 44, one of the first on TH-cam. Still love the gun. But I think I will stick to their all-steel guns. They aren't Smiths, but they are generally solid. An Undercover model would probably be my next venture.
I don’t see them “sneaking “ the polymer grip frame on consumers .. I have 9 Charter Arm revolvers some are from different eras.. I have owned dozen + in the past.. I have sent 3 back for repairs... Charter Arms has the BEST customer service... Polymer is OK for me ... I know it may surprise some people.... but I heard of a company that is considering building a polymer framed semi- auto pistol!!!! Oh wait thats old news ... I own 36 semi-auto pistols.... 34 of them are polymer framed ... I don’t think they sneaked that on me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow. I'm glad I watched this video and learned about the plastic (!) handle part of the frame. My wife likes her CA .38, and it's all aluminum and steel so I assumed this one would be too. Never makes assumptions, eh? The store owner selling one didn't mention this either. This should not be allowed, imo. Thanks!
You might want to take a good at the Taurus 942 line although not easy to find. I finally got a 942 22lr 8 shot. Very pleased with it. This revolver comes in lite versions in both 22lr and 22 mag.
@@tulsavol6653 I did and they're a nice pistol. The door's been slammed shut on buyers of pistols with >10 rounds in Oregon since Dec. 8. Thanks to the Democrats in the state legislature. SCOTUS had better rule soon on this or the doors will keep shutting - one state at a time.
Good eye. It just looks poorly designed. But on another note, what kind of velocities can you expect from a gun like this and how effective do you think it could be against a brown bear or a junky?
Well that's how they make it 12 ounces, it isn't a target model that is designed to fire all day every week few weeks. It is a pocket ultra light weight personal protection gun. As with any revolver you really should remove the grips and give it a careful inspection every time you clean it. Good to know what you have shown about this model 52370 Charter Pathfinder. Thanks Last few years I have had many more 22WMR misfires than ever before, and more than usual 22LR misfires also with my Ruger's, S&W's and even my Henry rifle. I guess maybe they are trying to save on primer paste. It sure seems to be the ammo and from all the big manufacturers (except CCI has been the best of them so far).
Absolutely untrustworthy sent back in for repair because would not fire which is almost unheard of on a revolver,been almost 3 months still no revolver. ( waiting on parts ) Wait, how are they making firearms if they don't have parts in. Cylinders. Save your time and money buy from a real firearm company
He gets to the point at 4:40. You're welcome.
Thank you my good sir!
You Sir deserve a medal for jumping on this one
Ruger uses "polymer" in their grip frame for their LCR . Just saying.
My gunsmith used to say that if you buy a Charter Arms gun, don't expect to shoot more then 1,000 rounds thru it before having to retire it. I have always looked at them, but have never purchased one. The two reasons you pointed out in this video were excellent examples. thanks...
I can't talk about the new ones, and I never owned a charco or a charter arms 2000, but the 1st generation charter arms are sweet little guns, but they are there own little creatures, and once you understand this they function quite well, one exception to this is when someone feeds a lot of got loads through there gun, yes they will takes some of it, but for tge most part they were designed for standard pressure ammo, and if you stick with standard ammo they can last a very long time, I've owned 4 undercover,s 2 pathfinder,s and a 44 bulldog, all 1st generation and all shot very well, I can't talk to much on how well the bulldog would hold up long term because I only shot a couple hundred rounds through it before I gave it to my nephew as a wedding gift, 15 years later he still has it, but it's his nightstand gun, but I have put a lot of ammo through the undercover and pathfinder models, and they hold up just fine, most often, people complain because they don't understand the guns design,
Your gunsmith is mistaken.
Some of you may not be aware of this company but there is a gun company called Glock that comes out of Austria that have been using polymer frames for a long time now with major success. Also there are all types of other firearms manufactures that use polymer frames in there guns. So let me ask you this what exactly makes you think polymer frames cant be used on revolvers too?
Its polymer.. its not hidden , being the grip frame on a Charter includes the trigger guard ... .. I have several Charters with POLYMER grip frames .. they work...
My LCR357 seems to work well ..
I bought the Pathfinder in stainless. It is steel with a brushed stainless finish.
At the time I didn't know it had a poly trigger frame. After reading the informed
comments I'm ok with it. Glad I didn't spend $500 on a new Walther PPKS and
then find out it's made of ZAMAK die cast pot metal 94% zinc, 6% aluminum.
My Dad used to tell me that, some things are made to be used and some things are made just to sell.
I am looking at potentially the stainless version of this. All the Ruger LCR's at my local stores are sold up, but they have this in the real stainless version.
These can work. But when you get one, make sure to run your fingernail along the triggerguard. You can tell right then and there if its a plastic or steel grip frame. If it is plastic, i would still walk away. You aren't able to find an online deal or is Michigan a bitch about that?
With the exception of being a magnum this gun looks very much like my good old High Standard Sentinel 9 shot...
Thanks for filling us in on the plastic frame because I really do want a mag, but will steer clear from this model!
Before you express your personal evaluation I believe you should do a little research. The plastic used is much more durable than the aluminum frame. The aluminum has a tendency to crack when bumped or dropped and have a tendency to crack in extreme cold. The plastic frame is more pliable and therefore more durable than the aluminum even when dropped or in extreme cold.
aluminum cracking when bumped? lol....ok Keep thinking that
Ted, Where did you get your materials engineering degree ?
My LCR and Glock seem fine to me. I might just get me a charter arms
Ruger lcr has a plastic grip frame, why is this a problem?
prove it
Just google it - its on there.
@@kuntvomit4507 that's literally a selling point of the LCR, partial polymer construction. Don't be dense.
It's amazing to me with TH-cam how people can make videos & have no idea what they're talking about. The "plastic" grip frame is same material used by other gun companies as in upper end water softener valves that last for over 30 years under pressure. It's good stuff. Pound for pound, it's stronger than steel & keep weight down. Don't worry about it failing. The comments he made about the rest of the frame where the aluminum panels are screwed together is standard for the industry-don't worry about that either. It's a great little piece.
I see a lot of comments about “cheesy plastic” and the OP condemned this revolver with no mention or apparent knowledge of what polymer was used. Modern polymers and more than up to the task
I'm twelve seconds into this video and this guy has pointed the muzzle at his face twice, I'm going to consider this content "For entertainment purposes only" from here on out. Stay safe folks.
Ruger has been using a polymer (plastic) fire control housing (grip frame) on all their LCR guns with no failures...S&W on their Bodyguard 38 as well
They have and they are much more substantial than this.
@@professorpewpuew thanks...guess I'll go with the LCR then
Never dry fire a rim fire cartridge pistol. That's a quick way to ruin the gun as well. Always have some empty shells in there when dry firing for practice.
Depends on the age of the rimfire pistol/revolver in question since nearly all modern ones should be able to be dry fired safely without damaging the gun, anything maybe 25 years old then you might need to be careful.
@@henrynorth6558 Thank you for sharing that. I am new to the world of 22 Magnum, so can you tell me why dry firing on new rem fires is ok?
@@kb6069 Generally speaking, the manufacturing has gotten better and is it a higher quality than in the past, like with all technology, not just firearms things are made with better metallurgy and since computer design and fitting of parts is better.
@@henrynorth6558 Not so
Probably why it's misfiring the rounds and it doesn't matter who or when it's made, NEVER DRY FIRE A 22 OR 22 MAG RIMFIRE PISTOL OR RIFLE!
i have the Pathfinder (regular) .22WMR snubby - it also had the glass-filled nylon frame... my solution was to buy a used stainless Charter Undercover frame ('trigger guard') on that evil Internet auction site... about 5 minutes of work, and voila: an all-stainless Pathfinder! mine is a great shooter and i *highly* recommend it...
I have a "regular" Pathfinder 22 mag, and it's frame is steel.
I own one. Great revolver.
I was wondering since you pointed out that the polymer frame might fail have you ever seen or heard of a case where the polymer actually failed. It looks to me like there is plenty of support on the reverse side. If it was my revolver and I was worry about the polymer failing I would extend the metal bridge the entire length of the opening and that would strengthen it considerably at minimal cost.
I just bought one of these today for my grandaughter with the Raspberry and stainless finish.Out of the box it was bone dry,no oil what so ever.And very stiff.I gave it a good coat of Ballistol and a little Rem Oil.Then I fired 100 round through it.50 CCI HP+V 30 grain JHP rounds,then 50 Winchester 45 grain Dynapoint rounds.No misfires.I also found I needed to use the 12 O'clock aim at 10 yards but I'm not complaining.It is what it is.The only time this revolver will be used is when my grandaughter comes to visit and she wants to shoot.Taurus now has a 22 wmr revolver that'll be in the stores by early summer,I'm anxious to give that one a try.I think it's called the 942 with 22LR & 22wmr 8 round versions.But I've yet to find out if the grip frame is plastic or aluminum.Good video here.
Rem Oil is just mineral oil.
Does this guy know which end of the gun the bullet comes out of
Why are you dry firing a rim fire ?😱😱😱
It isn't a hard and fast rule with newer guns.
In your Charter Arms box there is literally a yellow flyer that says DO NOT DRY FIRE!
I'll come back for your thousand round video. In my opinion the plastic is probably fine as it's pretty obvious that you don't know how these are engineered or built.
Did you consider contacting CA customer service or tech line for an answer to your question about the material being plastic or glass-filled nylon ?
They actually answer their phones right away!
There was no reason Charter Arms couldn't have made the triggerguard/grip frame out of aluminum. You're right, for the money they're asking for one of these, that should be made better.
I think I would run with a standard all-steel model, but once you get that heavy, there are better 22 caliber options.
@@professorpewpuew there is no 'all-steel' Pathfinder... even the heavier ones use non-steel 'trigger guards'
I'm glad it's noryl. It's a tough polymer and it's lighter and pound for pound stronger than steel.
Most frames on modern pistols these days are polymer dont forget.
Never dry fire a rimfire gun. Does not make a difference how old or new it is.
Nothing wrong with a plastic grip frame.
Can you feel anything just before the hammer falls ??? I shot a Colt Python with an excellent pre hammer drop
Just as a reference ,in the old days (1950-1960 ) ,we never had misfires with rimfire auto . At least my buddy and everyone else I knew didn't.
I think mine is a older version of this exact one in the vid cause mine has a chrome charter arms logo on both sides of the handle and the handle frame isn't plastic it's solid steel plus my spring for the hammer Is green
Plastic ?? Like a KeTec ?? tigger guard ok but not the grip with main frame spring... Question: why is it Key Holding ???? be well.
I want a longer barrel 5" plus ,???
I bought one if these POS in .22 WMR. New, out of the box, could not eject spent brass and 3/8 bullets went throught the target 180 degrees sideways, with others showing a degree of "tumbling".
AFTER being "repaired" by Charter, extraction is marginally better, but still not smooth, and the keyholing is no different. It is back for further repair work....
The gun is garbage, and customer service from Charter Arms is even worse than garbage.
thanks for the info I just bought a new undercover 38 and the same part is plastic glad it has a lifetime warranty
I was wondering if these did come on the larger caliber guns. Maybe its only in their "ultralight series." If yours works reliably, I wouldn't dismiss it. But I wouldn't run many heavy +P loads through it. It is lightly constructed compared to say a Ruger LCRs polymer grip frame.
Just bought a used one. Shot 50 rounds. 1 misfire
Durring your missfires if you watch closely your hammer is not cocking fully.
lol, he said cocking
Do they give the specific specs,?
Good points, wonder why they used such cheap plastic there on the grip frame.
Surprised you are listening to this one. There isn't any smoke ;)
@@professorpewpuew Lol!
You stated that it was plastic and you didnt notice it because it was hid by the grips but yet the grip frame also includes the portion that surrounds the trigger which is the same part so you should have known it was plastic.
Not really. The grip obscures where the trigger guard meets the grip frame. A plastic trigger guard doesn't have to mean a plastic frame. I know if I were holding it there's NO WAY I'd assume the grip frame was plastic, especially the inside taking all the stress from the mainspring.
Yeah. The "metal" behind the back of the hammer spur before it enters the grip should have been a tell if the trigger guard isn't obvious.
Marc rubio???
Glass filled nylon, not plastic. Ruger uses this material on some firearms. Have never read of a frame failure on a Charter Arms revolver.
Pathfinder is a good value.
I have a couple of concerns. .22 magnum duds are rare but in that gun they were regular. I also would want Charter Arms to state what material that grip frame is made from: glass filled Polymer like a Glock or some sort of cheap plastic like it looks?
I would have been okay if it was out in the open that the grip frame is plastic. The fact that its unmentioned is what pisses me off. I know Ruger LCRs have a polymer grip frame too, but we know the track record of their stuff and its construction. This plastic looks like a toy truck you would get for X-Mas.
Toy plastic is a bit of an exaggeration don't you think?! I took off the grips on mine to put a concealed hammer and it looked pretty durable. I carry it near my back pocket sitting on it all day and it's totally fine. People are running 38 +p loads through those same mechanics but you never read about that part of the gun breaking down.
There's a flaw in the slaw.
The same flaw in the slaw in the Henry Single Shot rifle I am working on...
Been considering an Charter Arms 22lr and a 38spl. Because if this video I won't purchase a Charter Arms and can't see how they charge what they do. Right now I'll stay with Colt, S&W and Ruger.
Maybe check them out in person at a local store. I had good luck with some older Charters but made the mistake of ordering this variant sight unseen. You might consider a Taurus revolver instead.
@@JLong-kn4us I am really sorry to hear that and I am shocked that more reviewers don't point out that the Charters arent all steel or aluminum. A good polymer frame can work but at these dimensions, Charter Arms are looking like toys my kid will play with than something thick enough that a self-defender can believe in.
For 20 years or so, H&R revolvers had a plastic tip to their hammer strut! Literally, the top of the hammer strut was plastic where it bore against the hammer. This is almost criminally bad design.
Some car parts should never be made of plastic... yet they are. Because they are cheap to make... but sure as hell not cheap to buy...
True. I bought an old 925 defender, and after just a few shots, the plastic tip broke. I bought a replacement one made of steel.
Glock does plastic all the time.
Aluminum . S.S. 22 mag . Arizona . Maybe .
ThanX
also comes with a lifetime warranty.
Thank you.
If you look back in time these were mainly used to shoot someone in the back of the head and chuck in a river after u were done. I wouldn't bet my life on one and I certainly wouldn't buy 1 for plinking
Thanks for the video. Well done expose on the poor construction.
All Outdoors is cool !
Damn! You saved me some money!
I have an older pathfinder in 22wmr all steel, great gun over all. I also had an ultralight .38 snubbie, that one was some sort of alloy frame and was almost too light, but super tough. I would get the $30 aluminum frame
toasties burned I have a few single action 22 magnums but a double action 22 mag would be nice for the collection
Not really supposed to dry fire rimfire firearms
I was always told growing up to never dryfire any firearm.
I hate to see Charter Arms take sneaky shortcuts like this. I had an older, first edition "Off-Duty" .38 that my old department issued to me as a BUG/OD gun (we had a huge inventory of guns so any serviceable ones got condemned for department use). I hated turning that thing in before I retired as my former partner had it before me and turned it in when she retired. It was a great little gun. Not as smooth as a S&W, of course, but about half the price and solid as a rock. Over the time I had it, the gun stood up to a lot of +P .38 special rounds and seemed none the worse for wear. I know the company went through bad times during their "Charco" years and those should be avoided, but I hate they would sneak something like this in now.
I don't have an issue with the use of plastic, but the material quality of that plastic is not good. Ruger's LCR uses a polymer grip frame, but it uses glass filled nylon, not that cheap stuff.
I do like Charters. I have an ancient video on the Bulldog 44, one of the first on TH-cam. Still love the gun. But I think I will stick to their all-steel guns. They aren't Smiths, but they are generally solid. An Undercover model would probably be my next venture.
nothing sneaky about calling it lite that's why the composite just buy the stainless if you don't like it they are still good guns
I don’t see them “sneaking “ the polymer grip frame on consumers .. I have 9 Charter Arm revolvers some are from different eras..
I have owned dozen + in the past.. I have sent 3 back for repairs... Charter Arms has the BEST customer service...
Polymer is OK for me ... I know it may surprise some people.... but I heard of a company that is considering building a polymer framed semi- auto pistol!!!!
Oh wait thats old news ... I own 36 semi-auto pistols.... 34 of them are polymer framed ... I don’t think they sneaked that on me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Interesting
can’t hear?
Thanks for showing that cheesy plastic to us. Charter better change that. New sub and notify keep up the good work.
Good job on your review
Great info.
Wow. I'm glad I watched this video and learned about the plastic (!) handle part of the frame. My wife likes her CA .38, and it's all aluminum and steel so I assumed this one would be too. Never makes assumptions, eh? The store owner selling one didn't mention this either. This should not be allowed, imo. Thanks!
You might want to take a good at the Taurus 942 line although not easy to find. I finally got a 942 22lr 8 shot. Very pleased with it. This revolver comes in lite versions in both 22lr and 22 mag.
@@tulsavol6653 I did and they're a nice pistol. The door's been slammed shut on buyers of pistols with >10 rounds in Oregon since Dec. 8. Thanks to the Democrats in the state legislature. SCOTUS had better rule soon on this or the doors will keep shutting - one state at a time.
Good eye. It just looks poorly designed. But on another note, what kind of velocities can you expect from a gun like this and how effective do you think it could be against a brown bear or a junky?
Nice video, hw can I contact you? Thanks.
Great information!!
Good info.
cant hear a word your saying
the answer is it gonna hold up, is no
Great Video!
Glocks are 90% plastic there's nothing wrong with that gun
Yeah, but the stress bearing areas are reinforced with steel. This ain't.
Its a 22mag not a 44mag, there is literally no stress, cmon man
@@BubbahotepEagle Exactly
Most automatics sold today are plastic…
Plastic grips!!! Holy piss! That shouldn't even be legal!
Well that's how they make it 12 ounces, it isn't a target model that is designed to fire all day every week few weeks. It is a pocket ultra light weight personal protection gun. As with any revolver you really should remove the grips and give it a careful inspection every time you clean it. Good to know what you have shown about this model 52370 Charter Pathfinder. Thanks
Last few years I have had many more 22WMR misfires than ever before, and more than usual 22LR misfires also with my Ruger's, S&W's and even my Henry rifle. I guess maybe they are trying to save on primer paste. It sure seems to be the ammo and from all the big manufacturers (except CCI has been the best of them so far).
Nope no plastic guns The GLOCK I am buying All steel will be a maybe I want a Ruger semi auto ... Name scrapers me
Thanks for your advice. I agree. Charter", Dont go plastic to get light weight bragging rights!
SOUND.....!volume
Not a fan of the two tone look.
you get what you pay for with everything in life.
Thanks
Send me that piece of junk and I will get rid of it for you.
Too cheap for their own good.
Worst firearm I've ever purchased
Absolutely untrustworthy sent back in for repair because would not fire which is almost unheard of on a revolver,been almost 3 months still no revolver. ( waiting on parts ) Wait, how are they making firearms if they don't have parts in. Cylinders. Save your time and money buy from a real firearm company
So what ever happened with your Charter arms ?