What's so great? He talked to T.O. a few months ago on First Take. Max is more entertaining to listen than this clown Skip. He's contradicting himself by telling T.O. on FT that he will vouch for him as 2nd ballot
a show that's exactly the same thing talking about the same topics with the same format with Skip Bayless (again) made you forget about First Take? Huh? What?!?! Skip is the definition of a one trick pony...he said all this crap (with probably 99% of the same words) 5-10 years ago. Take Shannon Sharpe off this show and it's complete recycled garbage!
It's called karma man. But it won't matter T.O. is such a narcissist all he will do is bitch and complain instead of reflecting on what an asshole he was. T.O. will eventually get in. But they're going to make sure he gets a slap or 2 in the face of his ego first to make a point.
They Shot Malcom imo, TO would have won a superbowl with McNabb if it weren't for that asterisk on New England. Remember the whole scandal where they were trying everything to cheat, even by getting lip readers to translate over the mic?
To me it's very clear Shannon and Skip work better together. Shannon allows Skip to speak while Stephen A needs to dominate the convo all the time. I can't stomach Smith. I been stopped watching him months ago
T.O. is an all time great no question. The relationship he had with the media is what's keeping him out. The media should not be able to hold him from football immortality because of their feelings.
Who ever would take TO over Irvin values ego over somebody who never ever played the games for numbers (& could've led the league in receiving) and sacrificed his stats and body every game for the betterment of the team. There is a reason troy aikman praises Irvin over any other teammate and all of TOs quarterbacks hate him. This is the reason owens never won. Irvin 3 > Owens 0
@@nickgojc7905 Eli has 2 rings and I'd take Marino over Eli. Irvin can't carry TO's jock, it's not up for debate, it's a fact. Look at the numbers... Michael is the most overrated WR and possibly NFL player of all time. Just because he is a TV personality and has a big mouth does not make up for his abysmal career numbers.
TO fits the description of ppl Skip hates, guys like Mayweather, Chad J, LBJ, Russell Westbrook etc. I'm not surprised. TO is a 1st ballot HOF hands down
not only that but he was THE BEST EAGLE in that game..... i really don't think we wouldve made the playoffs that year without him. He made #5 a better QB. And what did McNabb do the rest of his career AFTER T.O. left... nothing. What the EAGLES done since then..... NOTHING! Put T.O. in the HOF and lets move on
Wtf does the locker room have to do with performance.Michael Jordan was the worst team mate to have but guess what, when it was time to play he played the hardest. Stupid debate over this topic. Everything skip said is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his career as a player
Jordan's attitude and competitiveness elevated his teammates to greatness in 6 NBA Championships. What did B.O's do? Nothing. A big old goose egg. And it got him run out of each city. His attitude hurt more than it helped. All his numbers did was keep inflating his already over inflated ego. No sir not a great comment. Comparing what Jordan did to the likes of Owens??? You sir know nothing about sports. Here is your dunce hat. Go to the corner and everybody else please point your fingers and laugh at this man.
U don't have to be a good basketball player or even a professional player. But when u average 1.4 points per game, u do not deserve to mention any athletes name in a negative way.
Skip's point is valid, if it is the hall of fame for character, granted, but this the hall of fame for "what you do on the football field" as Shannon stated, so he should be a first ballot. That he wasn't says that the judges broke the rules that they agreed to abide by!
If the hall of fame is for character then the only ones who would be in there is Vince L coach of the packers. You have OJ in there mike irving the coke head in there deion i had sex with over 100 woman in there and so on. Stop it skip.
if T.O. does not get on and McNabb does it will be a crime....T.O. went off on mcnabb cause he quit(mcnabb) mid 3rd quarter in the super bowl...go back and watch you see it in his eyes and body language. and that is what pissed off T.O. who came back early from a broken ankle to play for his team...I believe be was just very passionate about winning, sometimes to a fault...and it is sad one of the greatest ever will be remembered for that and not his talent
Owens was a complete and total beast at WR. I don't care what he did "off" the field. Skip is a perpetually frustrated "wanna be" athlete who never mounted to anything so he sits on his media thrown trying to knock others down. Complaining that T.O. led the league is drops is like complaining about Reggie Jackson in his prime leading the league in strikeouts. You accept it because the flip side is so productive you can live with the mistakes. I watched his entire career..and I NEVER saw him take a play off...or mail in a game. Shannon is so correct as are the people posting that Skip is bitter that T.O. didn't deliver his ring while in Dallas. What a complete and total fool.
Skip is so stubborn the numbers don’t lie Terrell owens is a hall of famer I can say that as a loyal niners fan and come on skip there is no way any logical way any nfl fan would rank Michael Irvin over jerry rice but what do you expect from a bais cowboys fan who clearly can’t be objective
If the HOF selection was solely based upon what happened off the field then it would be a very small group of people. However, since the HOF is based upon what you do on the field, then T.O should be in the HOF. I would take T.O over any receiver playing today because of what he can do on the field.
darren sharper couldve fucked a 1 day old baby in the ass but that doesnt change the fact that he deserve to be in the hall of fame. lets say there's a quarterback in the nfl that played in the league for 15 years but was never good enough to be a starter but he was the most generous and unselfish person off the field. do you think that would be enough to get him into the pro football hall of fame? the answer is no... so if someone cant get into the hall of fame for the positive things they do off the field why should someone be kept out because of the negative? i understand what darren sharper did was fucked up and people dont like when people who do fucked up shit get rewarded even when they deserve it. but if he gets inducted into the hall of fame its not because he's a rapist it's because he's one of the greats just like oj simpson.
Dwight Love michael vick is definitely a hall of famer. anyone who revolutionized the game deserve to be in there just like gale sayers. gale sayer only rushed for 4.9k yards and 39 tds yet he's in the hof and thats because he changed the way people ran the ball.
mritizwatitiz If that is the case then Randall Cunningham will be wearing a HOF Jacket before him just like Fran Tarkenton is in Canton already he was one of the first mobile QBs in the 60s.
He loves Michael Irvin which Irvin was great, but Skip doesn't wanna mentioned back in 97 or 98 when Irvin stabbed his teammate over a haircut if we're going to talk about locker room distractions . If you're not going to talk about that then Skip shouldn't be talking about T.O.s short comings off the field .
I'm a 49ers fan myself and so I can understand where Skip is coming from but still he's first ballot because of what he done on the field he played like beast mode in the WR position where ever he goes and a total package that can do it all.
I remember one play when romo had threw an interception at the goal line on the other side of the field (opposite of T. o.) and he ran him down and Made the tackle inside the other 5 yard line when everyone else gave up on the play. Say what you want, but t.o. NEVER gave up on a play.
Skip is perfect for entertainment on a debate show because he's so thick headed and stubborn. You cant convince this man of anything no matter how convincing your case is. He loves his Cowboys, Spurs, Tom Brady and Steph Curry, and hates Lebron. And no matter how right you are, he will never change his mind about any of those things
He ain't running for prom this isn't a popularity contest. T.O is arguably the third best receiver to play the game. I hate Owen's attitude but the guy was a straight up monster and stats back that up
I don't mean any disrespect but how was this a good debate? Skip has no point because his stance goes against what the HOF is to recognize. It's on the field production, not the locker room, etc. Maybe you can help me with that.
+Lone Because you can argue that his off the field issues hindered on the field possibilities. I'm not saying he isn't deserving, but to dismiss Skip's point just because it hurts your feelings isn't right either.
They Call Me Tatter Salad I'm not dismissing his point because of feelings. I'm going off of facts. Ironically, it's Skip who is going off of feelings while dismissing the opposing point. Again, it's supposed to be "on the field things" not "off the field". Even with what you just said, it still took place off the field while he still performed on the field. Sticking to the point at hand, Skip still has no good point because he's in his feelings.
TO is the 2nd best Wideout of all time... Yes above Randy Moss... TO is the Kobe Bryant of football.. He expected all his QBs to be just as good as he was. And they acted like Shaq and got tired of it.
T.O. wasn't no joke. Top 3 Wide Receiver in the history of the NFL. You have guys who are in the HOF who have done way worse. Drug addicts you name it..
Owens was bad ass. as a cowboys fan I hated playin him but I loved it when he came to dallas he was exciting to watch, every time he had the ball you knew he was bout to break away and score
In the four major team leagues (NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB), in their Halls-of-Fame, you would have no difficulty finding a large laundry list of pricks in either of them. Their personalities didn't disqualify them. Is Terrell Owens a prick? Yes. Was he a pain in the ass to put up with in the locker room and on the sidelines? Without question. However, with that being said, his numbers speak for themselves, and his numbers alone are Canton caliber. Even with his attitude, he would get my vote just based on the numbers he put up.
Producing on the field means nothing to skip. It's what goes in the locker room and in T.O.'s driveway that matters to Skip. What goes on on the football field means very little to Skip Bayliss.
Terrell Owens was defiantly a unstoppable player on the field. He should no doubt be a first ballot Hall Of Famer. He was a menus for certain reasons.. but that doesn't take away from how amazing he was on the field.
skip will never know what it's like to strive to be the best on the field and fight for victory, so much so that it destroys your emotional and rational thinking , he expects him to be a robot after going to war
i kind of miss those crazy wrs. he totally is hof worthy. could you imagine his numbers if he didnt drop those passes. the guy had so much passion for the game it became a fault sometimes but the guy did bring it every single game. idk i admire that passion
I can't stand Terrell Owens; he represents everything wrong with professional athletes...he's a hard core narcissist, he's a locker room cancer, he's not a team player, he's talked mad shit about almost every QB he's played with. That said... His numbers alone warrant HOF induction. Owens is second all time in receiving yards, third in Tds, sixth in catches, and he played in Super Bowl XXXIX on one leg and still had nine catches for 122 yards. Owens was a reprehensible human being while in the NFL but his numbers and dominance put him among the best receivers in NFL history. Only Jerry Rice and Randy Moss were demonstrably better.
Hi It's me ...Owens didn't quit, he always played his ass off. And Randy Moss didn't talk mad shit about every QB he played, Owens did. Moss took plays off and was by all accounts a team player and a good locker room influence. Owens worked tirelessly and was a toxic personality.
Sean Brennan Bro Roy Williams dragged him down which caused leg to bend backwards. Even if it wasn't broken, his injury should of kept him outta the game!
ANYONE DOUBTS T.O IS DESERVING OF ENTERING ARE WRONG...T.O CAME TO MY EAGLES SAME YEAR WE WENT TO A SUPERBOWL IN 2004 ......PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FOOT....WE LOST BY 3 PTS TO PATS.... Hall of Fame IS ABOUT #S.... NOT OFF FIELD ISSUES
Top 5 WR all time. No doubt. 2nd in yards. 3rd in touchdowns. HOF isn't about what happens off the field, it's about what happens on the field. Dude was a MONSTER.
I understand both side. Sometime what happens in the locker room can affect what happens on the field. But at the end of the day, play is what matters and TO is definitely a Hall of Famer.
This is a tough one because I get where both guys are coming from. I think Skip is right in that TO's off field issues hindered chances of 3 teams to win and should be weighed against him. But I also get Sharpe in the fact that it shouldn't be a bunch of dudes who don't play football deciding who gets into the fall of fame. It should be the players and coordinators who played against him that decide what caliber of a player TO was -- if they were able to be fair and objective.
As much as I hate Terrell Owen's and I'm a Giants fan, I think he should be in the Hall of fame. Now there probably gonna delay a couple of years because of his negatives or distractions whatever, but as much as I hate him because I admit I'm a giant fan he will be or should be in the hall of fame eventually in time.
this is a great topic to debate about, because TO has HOF talent and production, but would create trouble in the locker-room to hold the team back short of a championship
It's not even a question. TO is a HOFer. He'll get voted in. You cannot talk about football in the 1990s-2000s without mentioning TO. You certainly cannot discuss the wide receiver position without mentioning him either. He'll be in there.
H.O.F isn't about being a nice teammate its about being the best football player at his position in a given era . Cant dismiss the numbers!
TO has 90+ more TD's than Irving, why is this even a conversation?
Sometimes I wonder..........did T.O. bone Skips girl?
LMAO
i think he did and taped it
lol
him and Floyd ran a train on her...
You forgot LeBron and Aaron Rodgers...
We got rapists, murderers, and drug users in the HoF. But let's keep a guy out because he was an annoying teammate and showboat.
Enrique Godinez Hey idiot, I was just making the point that people have done worse and got inducted into the HoF.
Stephen Pamphile facts
*Yessssss*
Yup
False equivalency but ok
Shannon sharpe is legit as they come as far as analyst go
Yes sir
Best on football out of Undisputed and First Take. How will his basketball be though when the season starts?
Well said
do you feel skip and shannon have better chemistry than he and Stephen A. Smith
I agree. I love the insight Sharpe brings. Real talk about the game.
Skip is judging him in the locker room. Instead of judging him on the field.
Exactly. Its not the hall of fame for "good teammates", or "good locker room presence." All that should matter is what he did between the lines.
Shannon is wearing purple.
Skip is salty for TO telling to kick rocks and squeeze a butt cheeks
It's obvious,Skip never played connect four,for dam sure not football.
If he actually had team success on the field, you'd have a point.
This show made me forget about First take.
you right
weird right. But I'm sure coming NBA time first take will get more interesting. Basketball is SAS's thing.
What's so great? He talked to T.O. a few months ago on First Take. Max is more entertaining to listen than this clown Skip. He's contradicting himself by telling T.O. on FT that he will vouch for him as 2nd ballot
a show that's exactly the same thing talking about the same topics with the same format with Skip Bayless (again) made you forget about First Take?
Huh? What?!?!
Skip is the definition of a one trick pony...he said all this crap (with probably 99% of the same words) 5-10 years ago.
Take Shannon Sharpe off this show and it's complete recycled garbage!
Exactly. It's the same show. Skip doesn't evolve. I like Skip as well. However, his Tim Tebow praise and his Lebron hate is tired and boring.
Skip has no argument, but he insists on saying something. HOF is about the most talented that fulfilled it.
It's called karma man. But it won't matter T.O. is such a narcissist all he will do is bitch and complain instead of reflecting on what an asshole he was. T.O. will eventually get in. But they're going to make sure he gets a slap or 2 in the face of his ego first to make a point.
He fullfilled it for San Francisco with a major catch but is that enough?
Pretty much. Unless you commit a major crime
Skip is full of it. More than have the peeps in the Hall had issues worse than T.O.. Its about numbers and contribution to the game. THATS IT!
They Shot Malcom imo, TO would have won a superbowl with McNabb if it weren't for that asterisk on New England. Remember the whole scandal where they were trying everything to cheat, even by getting lip readers to translate over the mic?
I might actually like Shannon with Skip more than Stephen A
To me it's very clear Shannon and Skip work better together. Shannon allows Skip to speak while Stephen A needs to dominate the convo all the time. I can't stomach Smith. I been stopped watching him months ago
And when Shannon speaks I'm just more interested
Anthony El Exactly. He doesn't need to yell to make valid points as well.
I agree. shannon knows his shit
nice name
Skip is talking real nonsense.
Always has
+H1GHD3FF Hey can't dispute the numbers so he goes to the drama argument.
Yep. This is the Skip I know . He gets in his feelings and it takes over his ability to use logic .
let me explain when 1 of the greatest most decorated coach wants nothing to do with you and your a superstar like to you have to ask why
^^^WTF??
TO is second all time in receiving yards, third all time in TDs. Lead the league in TDs three times. How is he not first ballot?
Writers panties are in a bunch b/c TO gave them hell.
+H1GHD3FF "Football is not a popularity contest" Jack Lambert
+Dwight Love well that's bs
I'm wondering that myself
+Spencer Stone your stupid
Shannon and Skip are a great combination. Shannon is calm and speaks with candor and respectfully. Skip is almost a totally different person.
I'm not a T.O. fan but he is a Hall of Famer.
You are so right.
Stop replying to yourself you loser, typical Eagles fan
Spoken like a true Cowgirl. Go suck on a used tampon.
until Shannon can't take anymore nonsense & screams at him LOL
Michael Irvin was great but he’s no where near Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss
Add Calvin Johnson you got my Mt. Rushmore of WRs.
@@sabreeemneely idk you forgetting about Larry
I'll take Calvin Johnson over Terrel
and Irvin...
Add Marvin Harrison and Steve Smith or Ocho.
I totally agree.
T.O. is an all time great no question. The relationship he had with the media is what's keeping him out. The media should not be able to hold him from football immortality because of their feelings.
Skip sometimes gets too far away from logic and speaks from an emotional place. Reminds me of my bitch (pause).
That's funny as hell . Lol
She sounds like a lucky women. /sarcasm/
bitch = dick
haha lol yea
CTFU (PAUSE).........CTFU again
He's way better than Irvin
FR, I would take TO over Irvin any day
Who ever would take TO over Irvin values ego over somebody who never ever played the games for numbers (& could've led the league in receiving) and sacrificed his stats and body every game for the betterment of the team. There is a reason troy aikman praises Irvin over any other teammate and all of TOs quarterbacks hate him. This is the reason owens never won. Irvin 3 > Owens 0
@@nickgojc7905 Eli has 2 rings and I'd take Marino over Eli. Irvin can't carry TO's jock, it's not up for debate, it's a fact. Look at the numbers... Michael is the most overrated WR and possibly NFL player of all time. Just because he is a TV personality and has a big mouth does not make up for his abysmal career numbers.
*Big fact*
@@donsremodeling I wouldnt go that far with what you said about Irvin but TO is definitely way above Irvin
TO fits the description of ppl Skip hates, guys like Mayweather, Chad J, LBJ, Russell Westbrook etc. I'm not surprised. TO is a 1st ballot HOF hands down
he did play for the superbowl,,,with the eagles
yeah they said that. but he didnt get them there. he didnt play the two playoff games leading up to the SB
didn't he put them in position to play 2 home playoff games
Sylvester Jones ***** i never said he was bad, i just pointed out that the Eagles lost in the post season with him and won 2 without him.
not only that but he was THE BEST EAGLE in that game..... i really don't think we wouldve made the playoffs that year without him. He made #5 a better QB. And what did McNabb do the rest of his career AFTER T.O. left... nothing. What the EAGLES done since then.....
NOTHING!
Put T.O. in the HOF and lets move on
Keith Yo what about Dawkins...
Wtf does the locker room have to do with performance.Michael Jordan was the worst team mate to have but guess what, when it was time to play he played the hardest. Stupid debate over this topic. Everything skip said is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his career as a player
couldn't have put it better myself! No one has ever come out and argued that MJ was a good teammate or a friend. It doesn't matter.
Great comment
+Marcus Moore your right Horace Grant said that Bill Cartwright threatened to ruin his career if he yelled at him.
Jordan's attitude and competitiveness elevated his teammates to greatness in 6 NBA Championships. What did B.O's do? Nothing. A big old goose egg. And it got him run out of each city. His attitude hurt more than it helped. All his numbers did was keep inflating his already over inflated ego. No sir not a great comment. Comparing what Jordan did to the likes of Owens??? You sir know nothing about sports. Here is your dunce hat. Go to the corner and everybody else please point your fingers and laugh at this man.
+Michael Heath He did not see those 6 NBA crowns until Grant,Pippen came along with other ppl.
Skip still mad about what TO did to his Cowboys
U don't have to be a good basketball player or even a professional player. But when u average 1.4 points per game, u do not deserve to mention any athletes name in a negative way.
I don't agree with him but that's a low blow
skip is very sensitive about this subject
By that measure, you’re not a professional athlete, or journalist so you can’t say that about Skip. Hate this argument.
@@corndog4848 well I play college ball and his argument is terrible
"Water Pistol 🔫 Pete"! 😊
You think if Bayless was hooked to a lie detector would be telling the truth about TO not being a HOFer?..I do not.
TO should be in the HOF no doubt about it. No one cares what happens in the locker room or outside the field. its between the lines.
Skip's point is valid, if it is the hall of fame for character, granted, but this the hall of fame for "what you do on the football field" as Shannon stated, so he should be a first ballot. That he wasn't says that the judges broke the rules that they agreed to abide by!
You meant Skip's point is invalid* right?
It was a play on words. His point inevitably, in my opinion, is invalid
If the hall of fame is for character then the only ones who would be in there is Vince L coach of the packers. You have OJ in there mike irving the coke head in there deion i had sex with over 100 woman in there and so on. Stop it skip.
These "judges" are prolly all old school dudes who can't handle change in the game. I bet they were fuming when Cam and his Dab won the MVP.
Played in a super bowl with a broken leg, with incredible numbers through his whole career. He deserves it at this point.
Naw he was selfish for that according to skip
@@ChreamOhWheat yea but we all know skip is a bit on the dense side when it comes to bias and lacking true objectivity for the game.
Shannon killed that argument!! Skip gotta stop ignoring the facts in this one!!
if T.O. does not get on and McNabb does it will be a crime....T.O. went off on mcnabb cause he quit(mcnabb) mid 3rd quarter in the super bowl...go back and watch you see it in his eyes and body language. and that is what pissed off T.O. who came back early from a broken ankle to play for his team...I believe be was just very passionate about winning, sometimes to a fault...and it is sad one of the greatest ever will be remembered for that and not his talent
webshootah77 that super bowl loss was all McNabb everyone who actually watched the game should see that. no reason they should have lost that
webshootah77 You Exactly right Bruh!!!!
Gh0stxRider Exactly McNabb gave up. Simple as that!!!
I'd be shocked if McNabb gets in. He was very good, not great. Eli was very good, not great. Eli beat the GOAT twice in the SB=LOCK HOFer.
Owens was a complete and total beast at WR. I don't care what he did "off" the field.
Skip is a perpetually frustrated "wanna be" athlete who never mounted to anything so he sits on his media thrown trying to knock others down.
Complaining that T.O. led the league is drops is like complaining about Reggie Jackson in his prime leading the league in strikeouts. You accept it because the flip side is so productive you can live with the mistakes.
I watched his entire career..and I NEVER saw him take a play off...or mail in a game.
Shannon is so correct as are the people posting that Skip is bitter that T.O. didn't deliver his ring while in Dallas.
What a complete and total fool.
Skip is so stubborn the numbers don’t lie Terrell owens is a hall of famer I can say that as a loyal niners fan and come on skip there is no way any logical way any nfl fan would rank Michael Irvin over jerry rice but what do you expect from a bais cowboys fan who clearly can’t be objective
If the HOF selection was solely based upon what happened off the field then it would be a very small group of people. However, since the HOF is based upon what you do on the field, then T.O should be in the HOF. I would take T.O over any receiver playing today because of what he can do on the field.
I guess you also think Darren Sharper should go in too
darren sharper couldve fucked a 1 day old baby in the ass but that doesnt change the fact that he deserve to be in the hall of fame. lets say there's a quarterback in the nfl that played in the league for 15 years but was never good enough to be a starter but he was the most generous and unselfish person off the field. do you think that would be enough to get him into the pro football hall of fame? the answer is no... so if someone cant get into the hall of fame for the positive things they do off the field why should someone be kept out because of the negative? i understand what darren sharper did was fucked up and people dont like when people who do fucked up shit get rewarded even when they deserve it. but if he gets inducted into the hall of fame its not because he's a rapist it's because he's one of the greats just like oj simpson.
+mritizwatitiz What about Michael Vick!!!!!!
Dwight Love michael vick is definitely a hall of famer. anyone who revolutionized the game deserve to be in there just like gale sayers. gale sayer only rushed for 4.9k yards and 39 tds yet he's in the hof and thats because he changed the way people ran the ball.
mritizwatitiz If that is the case then Randall Cunningham will be wearing a HOF Jacket before him just like Fran Tarkenton is in Canton already he was one of the first mobile QBs in the 60s.
Come on Skip lets cut the bullshit now, "no ballot" come on man.
He loves Michael Irvin which Irvin was great, but Skip doesn't wanna mentioned back in 97 or 98 when Irvin stabbed his teammate over a haircut if we're going to talk about locker room distractions . If you're not going to talk about that then Skip shouldn't be talking about T.O.s short comings off the field .
And dont forget all the cocaine he got caught with too!!!!!!!!!
I'm a 49ers fan myself and so I can understand where Skip is coming from but still he's first ballot because of what he done on the field he played like beast mode in the WR position where ever he goes and a total package that can do it all.
I remember one play when romo had threw an interception at the goal line on the other side of the field (opposite of T. o.) and he ran him down and Made the tackle inside the other 5 yard line when everyone else gave up on the play. Say what you want, but t.o. NEVER gave up on a play.
Imagine being 2nd 3rd and 6th in all time stats and not getting in. Crazy
TO should be 1st ballot. Just the catch against the Packers alone.
Skips just mad that he didn't bring a championship to Americas team lol I think that's why he is hating
you know what? lol that actually makes sense. never thought of it that way
Everyone knows TO is a first ballet hall of famer.
He's always been bashing him I think T.O. did something to him in San Fran!
Yes, fuck a girl that would never fuck Skip.
iloveyoumadhuri triggered
Look up Michael Irvin stats compared to Terrell Owens Irvin not even in T.O. league.
TO is one of the best I've ever seen. I've never seen Jerry rice I saw TO and Mose I think TO is better.
Jerry Rice is the greatest pure football player ever, regardless of position. His statistics and records are all the proof you need.
Don King Terrell could've broken all of jerrys records if he was allowed to play as long as Jerry
Moss is better
Moss didn't block and he didn't like going over the middle...plus he quit on his team numerous times...I'll take TO any day
JodieJoe26 Then you'd lose
Shannon's last line was gold.. skip is ridiculous
Forget the locker room, its about what's happening on the field. Dude is a Hall of Famer, this shouldn't even be up for discussion...
same shit I was just sayin
So Skip honestly think Randy Moss is not going to the Hall of fame when it's his turn to be eligible because he turn against the Patriots and Raiders?
MrB0gart so did Terrell Owens with the eagles he played in the super bowl 4 weeks after breaking his ankle and have screws put in it
Good point Shannon at the end!_"He's destroying defenses once they got to the field!" Case Closed! Give that man his due! T.O. is Hall of Fame worthy!
Skip is just old fashioned. You need people like him, Ochocinco, Odell in the NFL not these boring Yes people with no personality
Skip is perfect for entertainment on a debate show because he's so thick headed and stubborn. You cant convince this man of anything no matter how convincing your case is. He loves his Cowboys, Spurs, Tom Brady and Steph Curry, and hates Lebron. And no matter how right you are, he will never change his mind about any of those things
He ain't running for prom this isn't a popularity contest. T.O is arguably the third best receiver to play the game. I hate Owen's attitude but the guy was a straight up monster and stats back that up
That's the whole story he had a broke ankle in the Super Bowl and was doing work .
Skip doesn't deserve to talk ever again T.O is the 3rd greatest receiver ever
This is one of those really good debates where they both keep making good points and in the end I'm stumped for who to side with
lol me too...great convo..💯
I don't mean any disrespect but how was this a good debate? Skip has no point because his stance goes against what the HOF is to recognize. It's on the field production, not the locker room, etc. Maybe you can help me with that.
Owens should be in. the hall
+Lone Because you can argue that his off the field issues hindered on the field possibilities. I'm not saying he isn't deserving, but to dismiss Skip's point just because it hurts your feelings isn't right either.
They Call Me Tatter Salad I'm not dismissing his point because of feelings. I'm going off of facts. Ironically, it's Skip who is going off of feelings while dismissing the opposing point. Again, it's supposed to be "on the field things" not "off the field". Even with what you just said, it still took place off the field while he still performed on the field. Sticking to the point at hand, Skip still has no good point because he's in his feelings.
Exactly what happens when you let a guy that couldn't catch a cold in his underwear in a snowstorm decide who gets into a sports hall of fame.
???? what are you talking about
You don't get a cold from standing outside.
Victor Hagan but he is top 5 WR
He ain't play with rage when Sean Taylor hit him
#RIP21
#TOFIRSTBALLOTHOF
Skip overrates Michael Irvin.
Shannons face in the thumbnail is great 😂😂😂
Skip.....go sit down!
He is sitting, brah.
Guess he gotta stand then
That the media chooses who gets in is actualy a disgrace to every player ...coz did any mediaguy ever played the game ?
TO is the 2nd best Wideout of all time... Yes above Randy Moss... TO is the Kobe Bryant of football.. He expected all his QBs to be just as good as he was. And they acted like Shaq and got tired of it.
Stupid
He wasn't better than moss. Moss was unstoppable in his prime.
growing up watching them TO was better to me. he did so much more on the field than moss.
+J you can make a good argument for both. I think moss had better hands and was taller but TO was stronger and could break away for big plays
T.O. wasn't no joke. Top 3 Wide Receiver in the history of the NFL. You have guys who are in the HOF who have done way worse. Drug addicts you name it..
shannon is so right on this one
Crazy how young Shannon and skip look just 6 years ago, compare to the recent videos
Hall of famer all day...skip bayless is such a hater just makes my skin crawl.
If we based it on off the field antics Lawrence Taylor wouldn’t be in the hall of fame Skip gotta stop this
it's about what he does on the field and he is the 2nd best wr I've ever seen
Third, bitch. No way he is above Rice or Moss. Get your shit straight.
+They Call Me Tatter Salad Moss was more exciting, TO was better.
They Call Me Tatter Salad better than moss way more complete as a wr
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
When T.O. argues with Skip face to face, oh man that was so good.
skip gets on my nerves!!!
i dont watch this show you lame...i came across this. you internet gangsta go swallow 1000 sleeping pills
I can hardly hear these guys sometimes, and I have the audio up fairly high.
Skip is off point once again
Owens was bad ass. as a cowboys fan I hated playin him but I loved it when he came to dallas he was exciting to watch, every time he had the ball you knew he was bout to break away and score
he should be a first ballet hall of famer. hands down. idk how he isnt.
So I'm on the east coast, what time this comes on? I am enjoying the clips so far
In the four major team leagues (NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB), in their Halls-of-Fame, you would have no difficulty finding a large laundry list of pricks in either of them. Their personalities didn't disqualify them. Is Terrell Owens a prick? Yes. Was he a pain in the ass to put up with in the locker room and on the sidelines? Without question. However, with that being said, his numbers speak for themselves, and his numbers alone are Canton caliber. Even with his attitude, he would get my vote just based on the numbers he put up.
What will Shannon do when basketball season stats? Just wondering.
t.o. did play for a Superbowl in the 2004-2005 season when he was with the eagles they lost to the patriots that yr
He might have meant won a super bowl.
if eagles won that Superbowl, Terrell Owens would of won MVP that game
Go back and listen to First Take's audio, it's really bad and noisy compared to this show. Fox is stepping in on ESPN.
I agree with skip that he wrecked Philadelphia but TO is a HoF
Actually he elevated the Eagles and came to the Super Bowl to play.
Carlos Jones They went to the SB without him bruh...
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
Producing on the field means nothing to skip. It's what goes in the locker room and in T.O.'s driveway that matters to Skip. What goes on on the football field means very little to Skip Bayliss.
skip bayless looks like the guy on the 20 dollar bill
The "guy" is Andrew Jackson
+NY Boricua Jackson is not very popular among the native Americans.
yeah i know, and i also think replacing skip with harriet tubman would leave viewers far better informed on the world of sports
+daedal Its true Andrew Jackson will be replaced by HARRIET TUBMAN very soon!!!!!!!
chewyismycopilot lol savage
T.O went into 1 SB and came back from an ankle injury. He still balled out with!! Let that sink in Skip
The ultimate hater returns
Terrell Owens was defiantly a unstoppable player on the field. He should no doubt be a first ballot Hall Of Famer. He was a menus for certain reasons.. but that doesn't take away from how amazing he was on the field.
skip is so wrong here
skip will never know what it's like to strive to be the best on the field and fight for victory, so much so that it destroys your emotional and rational thinking , he expects him to be a robot after going to war
Shannon should have his own show, skippy is holding him back.
#ThatsMyQuarterback
I love the hostess:She looks cute and let's the guys talk.
Romo was the reason TO failed in Dallas
i kind of miss those crazy wrs. he totally is hof worthy. could you imagine his numbers if he didnt drop those passes. the guy had so much passion for the game it became a fault sometimes but the guy did bring it every single game. idk i admire that passion
Like Charles Barkley said, 'Skip Bayless is a punk'.
This show has been great.. And being in studio helps with the chemistry and overall flow as opposed to both guys being on monitors.
I can't stand Terrell Owens; he represents everything wrong with professional athletes...he's a hard core narcissist, he's a locker room cancer, he's not a team player, he's talked mad shit about almost every QB he's played with.
That said...
His numbers alone warrant HOF induction. Owens is second all time in receiving yards, third in Tds, sixth in catches, and he played in Super Bowl XXXIX on one leg and still had nine catches for 122 yards.
Owens was a reprehensible human being while in the NFL but his numbers and dominance put him among the best receivers in NFL history. Only Jerry Rice and Randy Moss were demonstrably better.
he was an asshole not reprehensible you doorknob! killers, rapists, child molesters and thieves are reprehensible
Robert Daugherty ...Stop being all litigious and shit. Narcissists are not good people.
+SuperThumpasaurus I never seen T.O quit. Randy moss I seen him quit in Oakland and Minnesota.
Hi It's me ...Owens didn't quit, he always played his ass off. And Randy Moss didn't talk mad shit about every QB he played, Owens did. Moss took plays off and was by all accounts a team player and a good locker room influence. Owens worked tirelessly and was a toxic personality.
+SuperThumpasaurus and Owens has better stats Than moss. When nobody wanted him and everybody wanted moss.
Terrell Owens is top three if not top two
TO is the only player that played in the Superbowl on a broken leg. So skip can Gtfowtb!
wrong
Sean Brennan where's your evidence
It was an ankle, and it wasn't completely broken, it's literally impossible to play on a broken leg
Sean Brennan Bro Roy Williams dragged him down which caused leg to bend backwards. Even if it wasn't broken, his injury should of kept him outta the game!
Ok then say that and don't exaggerate, facts are more than enough as they are, nobody needs to sugarcoat them.
Numbers speak for itself!!! TO was one of the greatest in my books.
ANYONE DOUBTS T.O IS DESERVING OF ENTERING ARE WRONG...T.O CAME TO MY EAGLES SAME YEAR WE WENT TO A SUPERBOWL IN 2004 ......PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FOOT....WE LOST BY 3 PTS TO PATS.... Hall of Fame IS ABOUT #S.... NOT OFF FIELD ISSUES
Top 5 WR all time. No doubt.
2nd in yards.
3rd in touchdowns.
HOF isn't about what happens off the field, it's about what happens on the field. Dude was a MONSTER.
This show has been great so far, Sharpe has been doing a great job.
Shannon is Sharp.
I understand both side. Sometime what happens in the locker room can affect what happens on the field. But at the end of the day, play is what matters and TO is definitely a Hall of Famer.
This is a tough one because I get where both guys are coming from. I think Skip is right in that TO's off field issues hindered chances of 3 teams to win and should be weighed against him. But I also get Sharpe in the fact that it shouldn't be a bunch of dudes who don't play football deciding who gets into the fall of fame. It should be the players and coordinators who played against him that decide what caliber of a player TO was -- if they were able to be fair and objective.
What about Brett Farve off the field incidents
Sound went out around 12:xx mark
As much as I hate Terrell Owen's and I'm a Giants fan, I think he should be in the Hall of fame. Now there probably gonna delay a couple of years because of his negatives or distractions whatever, but as much as I hate him because I admit I'm a giant fan he will be or should be in the hall of fame eventually in time.
this is a great topic to debate about, because TO has HOF talent and production, but would create trouble in the locker-room to hold the team back short of a championship
It's not even a question. TO is a HOFer. He'll get voted in.
You cannot talk about football in the 1990s-2000s without mentioning TO. You certainly cannot discuss the wide receiver position without mentioning him either.
He'll be in there.
Dr.josh i notice you never commented on Bret Farv i wonder why ?
There’s no hall of fame without T.O he’s one of the best receivers ever bottom line . My goat when it comes to wide receivers 💯🐐❤️