It's open-source because its FROM [correction: all the open-source AI models that already exist] There is no 'slap in the face' and now you're sneering and slapping the face of anyone.
@@theasianjaywalker4455 Open AI is literally closed AI . They are proprietary model . Meta AI is open source . You can literally call Open AI as CLOSE AI
@@peterwilliamson1so pathetic of your soul, look at the barbaric white scums has done on the American continent, in Africa, Jesus you need some moral guidance.
@@peterwilliamson1 From what I read from wi key. Leeks Contrary to popular belief the cl Ashes happened outside in the streets leading up to the square Near the end as their Government sent in po lice/sold iers with non lee thal whe pons In an attempt to end the pro test Where some were bee ten to de ath or bur ned alive in their vehicles by mostly stri king workers Where the po lice/sold iers came back later that night with lee thal whe pons I don’t know what country you are from but where I’m from if you take part in a “peaceful” pro test And police are bee ten to de ath or bur ned alive in their vehicles? You don’t stick around to see what they will do when they come back later that night In the end we know when the po lice/sold iers finally made it to the square… they actually let the students leave but…. they did eventually go after the student leaders in the aftermath Where our western narrative was the Chinese Government caused the demise of students for no reason.
@@peterwilliamson1 To me it looks like the USA just offshored its dan ger ous path o gen /Gain-Of-Function research to China like they did everything else What we do know for sure is Obama put a moratorium on Gain-Of-Function research in 2014 Where the Republicans were blaming Fauci for lifting that moratorium in 2017 under Trump The narrative the western Mainstream Media finally gave to us, that it was wet markets Then trump for the first few days blamed it on this BSL4 Biolab the first of its level in China Where it was promoted as some some secret d ark site/military site by the Mainstream Media that the Chinese were using to make some bio logical wea pons But then trump and Mainstream Media stopped That’s because most of the worlds… world renowned virologists had access to this Biolab or collaborated with this Biolab And as well as with 40 plus American scientists embedded their Chinese CDC It was the America who came up with the partial funding for this Biolab. The French who built it And it was America, France, UK, and Canada who trained the scientists working at this Biolab Yes America financed that Gain-Of-Function Research If you asked me how embarrassing for these world renowned virologists to be telling us it was wet markets When just 2 miles away in a hospital outside the most secure Biolab in the country was where they found the earliest patient zero Spending millions a year working on trying to make more de ad lier vi rus es … when none of these guys thought to test the wet market 7 miles away or hospital 2 miles away… just outside their doors Especially since now we know a few of the Covid strains hit us until it morphed into Covid 19 👇 State Department cables warned of safety issues at Wuhan lab studying batcoronaviruses By Josh Rogin April 14, 2020 at 5:0 * In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. *During interactions with scientists at the WIVlaboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” states the Jan. 19, 2018, cable, which was drafted by two officials from the embassy’s environment, science and health sections who met with the WIV scientists. (The State Department declined to comment on this and other details of the story.) The Chinese researchers at WIV were receiving assistance from the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and other U.S. organizations, but the Chinese requested additional help. The cables argued that the United States should give the Wuhan lab further support, mainly because its research on bat coronaviruses was important but also dangerous. WAPO
They have their business model.. never are they going to 180. BTW if you don't know what their business model is.. it's study what the competition did good and bad and then make something similar but with all the fixes to the other people's downside. Also I don't think they're going to drive prices up. What they're doing I believe is to undercut the competition continuously until there's no longer any competition. The future is going cheaper instead of expensive.
Chinese in China vs Chinese Ameircans? No. This is wrong. You know why? 1st - this isn't our idea, but White Americans idea. We Chinese Americans don't care and are just work to make a living. 2 - many of us are proud, praise, and are happy with China's accomplishments since it is good to see our own fellow brothers and sisters doing well. Especially those who have family memebers in China. This is White Americans idea and they wanted to piggyback off Chinese Americans and Asian Americans in general, who are smart and then claim the credit. We Chinese Americans knows we get nothing out of this because anything done will mean more money in the White man's pocket. Now, why should we really care? All this means is wealthy white men piggy backing off others just so they can make more money. I think what we should do as Chinese Americans, is just hijack the whole system and install tons of malware into them and then let the white Americans fix them.
this is why i respect chinese a lot. they don't talk, they don't brag, they don't tell you what they are doing. and when the whole world think they are left behind, they shock everybody with result.
They did what they knew they could do… art of war. Beautifully executed chess move. They will push this republican party to the breaking point. War or submit? The people will ultimately have the final say but it will not be pretty.
@@brianye964 nah bro. the "talented" wyte mbas are the ones hiring the indian "talented engineers". i love how wyte people always blame minorities when they are the ones who keep hiring and bringing them in lmao.
Is really a slap in the face of illiberal chinese culture. deepseek just latent space parameterized western corpus components which are largely doing the heavy lifting in terms of innovative reasoning given the lingua franca of modernity is english in the major domains. . *me asking deepseek::* _"given english is the lingua franca of many domains then surely you bias toward english chain of thought?"_ *deepseek's reply:* _"You're absolutely right to point out that English, as a global lingua franca, plays a significant role in shaping my training data and, by extension, my responses. This does introduce a bias toward English-based patterns of thought, especially in domains where English dominates, such as science, technology, and international discourse."_
@@blengi not sure what you think your point is? Just sounds like you whining about them doing it better for free and fraction of the costs cus you tribal about corporations and can’t accept other territories doing stuff
@ ? Like all you trying to do is western supremacy, act like China or other cultures didn’t have thinking or reasoning and not recognise you can easily exploit a culture for targeted reasons? Western world was clearly the focus because it was to undermine western AI and China has its own ancient well cultured history, you just a weirdo that can think intelligence or thinking exists outside western which is smart and layered? It was targeted at westerners not because west is superior by universe but to knee cap western AI bubble
China is graduating 8x as many STEM grads as the US. So is it a surprise China is passing the US in tech. The US probably has a lot more MBAs which is great for building stock bubbles.
That's hilarious n true that UAss is big big big burble of economy wealth weapon nuke intelligence power GPD democracy development technology soon we'll find out that lot American wealth millionaire n billionaire reduce to 1/10 what it brag about it.
People in the Global South are also smiling, given China advances. But they have to do it silently because they're afraid of getting attention from the West (thus, risk sanctions).
The point that they glossed over wasn't about "software", but hardware. Deepseek found a way to train a very good AI model that requires far less hardware than expected.
They also prolonged the lifecycle and pricing for older Nvidia hardware. Nvidia will expand its customer base beyond big tech which will keep buying Blackwell.
I run DeepSeek R1 and Qwen2.5 locally on my computer. I actually like Qwen which is more likely to be wrong, but it is faster and could run at the same speed as GPT on a standard PC at home. most of my question and request is just basic info and Qwen is good enough for summarizing stuff. if I need to solve problem, I switch to DeepSeek. as impressive as DeepSeek is, it is not the only Chinese model that is impressive, Alibaba's Qwen are quite useful too.
dont think it ever was. ibm and mac story repeating. unaffordable both were replaced by cheaper compatible machines within couple of years and holds till today.
No it wasn't. They were all about taking and plundering and living off cheap labor and free slave labor while making tons of money and this was since ever. This is why USA cannot even accomplish half of what China has accomplished in the last 250 years. China on the other hand have accomplished ALOT in 15 years than USA ever did in 250 years. I don't just mean tech, but poverty, advancement and many others. They done so much for the world that USA would never dare to do and you call it champion of free and open source? When was this? I grew up with RACISM and we Asians in general were told to S*CK IT UP. Did you do anything to help us? No you profited off our hard work ethic AND our knowledge like you did with the Rail roads and gold mines. We Chinese were used to help the white man get rich. You call it Champions? WHEN AND WHERE?
Don't "Tonya Harding" the competition. Compete on a level playing field. Cheaters only cheat themselves. OTOH, China has taken (i.e. stolen) more tech than it has given.
Believe me we Asians don't care anymore. After Asian hate, I rather see USAgo down in history as the biggest clowns the world has ever seen at this point. The level of BS and Racism that i dealt with through my grand parents, parents, friends, other family memebers and me makes me want to laugh and spit in the white man's face.
If China can do it with USD6 million, just imagine if China just pump in a billion dollars. By then, there is no way all the US AI companies combined can win the AI war.🤣
True, these billions being poured into AI in US by the govt is also just corruption. OpenAI who has open in its name has closed source models. The US just doesn't want china to succeed thats all, because china doesn't run according to degenerate western ideology, US doesn't want china to access tech
The US companies are swimming on money/funding, so they're tempted to just use it as much as possible. China doesn't have this luxury, so they have to be efficient.
@@q5go84q not true, loads of US ai are start-ups, and how start-ups work in the US favours this kind of inefficiency. there's too much of a speculation bubble inflating what the companies are actually worth. most start-ups in the US are not going to then release it as open source, they have investors to answer to. plus, the cost of living for quality of life is extremely high, it affects numerous factors in efficiency and innovation (basically everything that is a core industry in the US is privatised, which just means the government gives big pay outs to these companies to run but it only benefits the companies and no one else). think boeing, the pharmaceutical industry - the absolute extortionate prices these guys can add to make everything more expensive cause they're a monopoly, but they still have the state funding them as they're too big to fall... in china, these companies aren't bailed out or people in charge get arrested for corruption if they're responsible for excessive price gouging nowadays. meanwhile i'm from the uk that basically has NO tech innovation in the past 20 years lol.
China is number 1, not number 2! The metrics explicitly show this. And they open sourced it! And compacted it to 7B and even 1.5B (though not as effective). Thank you China. You are the real world leader.
@@thetipsymankey Its not the Governments money..... Why are so many people getting this confused. The US hasn't spent 500 billion innovating so far, its a plan for the future, they are going to use a nuclear power plant. China just takes what it can when it can and then everyone eats up their propaganda with no questions whatsoever. I have alot of issues with the way OpenAI has acted but come on the US is literally leading the way through, China """catching up""" is the same as it has ever been. Oh and the nice touch of over censorship of their flagship model not the distilled llama models makes any reasonable person still use American AI.
@@gmsson9781 as if global south is rising, lol. Even after the decline, the USA will still be among the top two superpowers. Meanwhile, global south, especially India will still have to worry about China for decades to come.
@gmsson9781 As if the global south is rising, lol. Even after the decline, the USA will still be among the top two superpowers. Meanwhile, the global south, especially India will still have to worry about China along with its billion problems for decades to come.
In the 2004 Stephen Chow's movie "Kung Fu Hustle", in the final fight, after tackling all the dirty ticks and attacks of the Beast, the Beast was finally defeated and stunned, asking "what kind of move was that?". Sing responded sincerely and said, "you want to learn that? I'll teach you." That's the same mindset why DeepSeek open sourced its AI algorithm.
Yeah. China did it on the day of Trump's inauguration and they did it intentionally to say "Hey, USA Surprise!!" and we Chinese Americans were like "Nice!!! " because many of us don't see this as Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China. This is really Wealthy white man's idea of competition and they want it because they want money, power and control. We Chinese Americans are like "Meh I show up to work and do my thing and then make a living. Why should I care just to help a bunch wealthy white men get rich?"
Only countries classified as Tier 1 by the US are allowed full access to American AI technology. Basically, just the West and a few US-occupied nations in the east. In contrast, China is simply sharing it with all countries, a profound gift to the world.
The three non-West countries, Japan, South Korea & Taiwan were only included as they are needed to make the AI chips. The rest of the world were in Tier 2 with restricted access to AI chips.
@@cheekeongchan6605 15 countries in tier 1, most probably white countries and few servants, in tier 2 all neutral countries and tier 3 china...they have strong jealosy to china
OpenAI and the likes (Microsoft/Google)'s models may have a slight advantage here and there, in LLM/AI. But their models can't justify a huge cost imposed on end-users. Let alone the "blackbox" of their LLM.
I like this stark exposition of how bloated and inefficient US corporate practices are. Hundreds of millions for R&D work that China can replicate (actually do better in instances) with less resources
I told you, only China buy expensive Nvidia ai chips Once they can break 3nm with Ascend chip, Huawei will be the most valuable tech company in the world
It's true. So China have the most spending power out of any nation and if we measure it by that, then China is actually #1 in the economy by a huge margin. There are tons and tons of legacy wealthy Chinese in China and I am saying this because many will think Chinese Americans are like that but we aren't. Majority of the Chinese Americans came from a poor family who wanted a better life out here, so we have to work our way up. The legacy Chinese in China have wealth ingrained in their bloodline and these are the Chinese that were mentioned in Crazy Rich Asians movie.
@@Alexpktang its just mater of time if chinese could pull the trick with limited hardware they absolutly could optimize the softarware (since all code work with the same principle,they could make their own standarization)
The “despite” in the title is wrong. Because of sanction, China is more and more focusing on its own research and manufacturing of chips, thus accelerating the innovation.
Yep. Me and my friends were talking about it too. Originally, Chinese were ok with doing business overseas to get these things, but when sanction happened, that drove Chinese to want focus on its own research. This is because they need it and since they cannot access it anywhere, they decided to do their own.
America is also moving away from free trade, capitalism, sharing tech and science, education. This discourages many of the best scientists who live to share.
1)Its so funny that US tried to block chips to China and now They have 10mm and below tech closer than before 2)Blocked Software tech, and they made their own OS 3) Now an open source LLM which performs better than anything else. lmao
I wonder how OpenAI will account for the $500 billion they raised, since what they are working on now is already obsolete by what Deepseek launched. Wouldn't it be funny (and tragic) if OpenAI launched a newest version for $500 billion but with performance below that of Deepseek which cost $5.5 million? I'm worried that Sam Altman has been having a severe migraine for the past week.
The AI bit is an excuse for stealing the world's intellectual property. That has enduring value. "If you don't relax your IPR and let us take everything royalty-free, then you will miss the AI boat"
Well this isn't Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China. This is really USA(Specifically Wealthy white men) vs China and they wanted to enforce this on us to help them get richer and more powerful.
Yeah the thing is China have really good algorithm that I feel like Americans don't understand. They tried to learn about it from tiktok, but I don't think many Americans understands it well to know how it works, but I believe China is going to be the ones who will drive AI
This was how Nikola Tesla wanted, but greedy Americans took it away from him and gave him no proper credit in history. He was really ahead of his time too! Apparently rumors mentioned that he figured how to time travel but he wasn't able to finish. The FBI and the CIA apparently have all his blueprints, notes and diary on how to but they still cannot figure it out. It's sad to waste such talent because Nikola's goals does not align with the American Elites.
@@VonGoldfinger The US has fallen behind in almost all areas. Chinese companies are making very effective cheap products. I’ve been considering a BYD car for my next car and a Chinese branded phone. US companies are not offering products for a similar price point or having as many features.
Ive extensively tested deep seek and it's seriously mind-blowing. It out performs several models available currently and i recon everyone using llama, gpt 3.5/gpt 4/, mistral will just replace it with deep seek. Its thinking process helps you diagnose and fix bugs, what used to take a month or two for prompt engineering will now take days
Imagine if there weren't export controls for NVidia GPUs, China will be far ahead of the US. I wouldn't be surprise if the US is going to stop NVidia from even selling the low end chips to China, which is going to hurt NVidia financially.
The amount of cope I've seen from US tech bros😭😭 For us non-Americans, the fact that we can get similar performance to o1 which cost $200 per month for free with DeepSeek, is simply amazing. And they also released distilled versions which you can run locally and fine tune as much as you want.
China has one of the best education systems in the world, the most important thing is that it is free. In the US, traditionally, all science was done at the expense of immigrants bribed with printed money based on oil trade in dollars. Let's hope that the world will rub its eyes and refuse the dollar.
If u exploit the ppl for too long, one day it will definitely backfire, like the bubble in your beer or the ever so high stock with speculation purpose and not real growth.
Open source. Incredible and a gift to the world! What a coup for emerging economics with limited resources but with talented scientists and engineers such as Iran and Egypt as 2 examples. This is part of China's philosophy of "seeding the developing world" with tech and infrasture. With initiatives such as the Belt & Road (150+ countries), and BRICS. Countries that would otherwise be BLOCKED by US Hegemony and other Western Anglo Neocolonial powers. Don't forget the incredible energy savings. BTW, don't expect Trumps AI initiative to be very successful. Why? It's the US throwing money at the problem without any industrial or strategic policy and planning. And we KNOW the money will not be equably distributed. Much will be laundered to their "buddies" just like the Biden Admin did. Why do you think the big tech firms, deserted the Dem's and were in "Power Ranger" mode at Trumps inauguration? Americans are morons to believe they can harness AI brainpower and keep it within their borders, or - unethically - only distribute it to slected partners, countries who kowtow to them. Underestimating China, like they have with Russia, is a grave, almost unrecoverable strategic mistake. It guarantees that China will eventually take leadership as they already have with the majority of critical tech. China's Education and Talent is a Grounding Force. China graduates more PhD Scientists and Engineers, and grads in ALL STEM fields than the US and G7 countries combined! China's University System is now ranked #1, most comprehensive, and their universities lead in many of the core critical technologies required of the "4th Industrial Revolution" which they also lead. Unless the US can pull its head out of the "Zero-Sum Rabbit Hole" and discover "Win-Win" collaboration and equality with countries of color, America's tech future will be on the descending spiral. And "This is the Way" to America's decline...
A significant portion of AI researchers in the US are of Chinese origin because China has heavily invested in AI education, producing a large pool of talented researchers who often migrate to the US for further studies and career opportunities, making them a prominent presence in the American AI research landscape; this is further fueled by the strong emphasis on STEM fields in Chinese education, leading to a high number of qualified candidates in the field.
This is a market correction, maybe they are just looking for someone to blame The question is did it really cost billions to train or not, in a way they might be scamming their investors and customers
The rate at which these technologies are outperforming each other, makes it illogical to invest billions into them.. Seems to me, they are going to eliminate each other.
us doesn't even have an anti corruption initiatives lol, we celebrate corruption via political lobbying, we love it being legal 🤣🤣. we'd rather play left vs right games rather than protesting lobbying 🤣
USA even, its not in our pockets. They wanted to make this seem like Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China, but it is really Wealthy white oligarchs of Silicon valley vs Chinese in China.
@@shaikhhar6911 ChatGpt took 150 over millions to develop. Deepseek took 5.9 millions to develop. so near 4%. ChatGPT hires full time people to develop the system. Deepseek is a small fraction of a Hedge Fund company project and is developed part time. I just make a straightforward calculation.
When dollar is world trade currency, everyone wants to sell products to the US to get dollar. When they're full of dollar in their pocket, what do they do? They invest in other things. They don't feel appealed in projects in Turkey (thus, sell dollar to get lira), or projects in South Africa (thus, sell dollar to get Rand). And the US financial market becomes lucrative because of being more convenient: use dollar to invest dollar-asset. If the whole world does like this, the US financial market is swamped with dollar. The investors have to compete to buy stocks in US Stock exchange, boosting the value of each stock. You can clearly see the bubble...
Much more. There are alot of stuff in China that isn't open to the public yet, but China already have been able to produce anything that TSMC have especially the most advance stuff. I know this because my friend who is taiwanese is from Taiwan and it was like 3 years ago when he said "China already can produce anything that TSMC have. Everything that is going to be available in Arizona will be the older tech."
Indians and India do not have any AI companies, AI products, AI services that are worth mentioning but you see them bragging all day 24/7. 😅That is the difference between Indian ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts versus Chinese ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts. Chinese believe that their achievements speak louder than words whereas Indians believe that their words speak louder than their achievements (if any🤭). And that is why Indian ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts were scripted to be very intelligent and capable on the internet, but in the real world/reality, none of them could not make any app to compete with the Chinese TikTok or the China's DeepSeek AI. Overpaid and over-hyped and over-rated.😆Indians said that Indians rule the tech AI/IT world? 🤔 Are these companies 1) founded by Indians? No Are these companies 2) made/created by Indians? No Are these companies 3) owned (ownership) by Indians? No Indians should constantly ask themselves, what happened to Indian CEO, Parag Agrawal? 🤭
Robert seems like he is to cry . He is thinking how can I ever charge my customer Mt Everest price now if these peasant farmer keep on ploughing the field!😅
Forget about the USA: it’s expensive, old school, closed mind, win-loose strategy; here comes China, it’s affordable or free, new kid on the block, win-win strategy.
The chip restrictions are actually helping them look for efficient ways to deliver AI solutions, the lesson here is sometimes when you think you are blocking an opponent you are actually helping them think better than they would have without the restrictions... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
non-tech people view it as China against US, tech people view it as open-source against closed source.
Politics is the last but unfortunately the only angle most people can discuss a topic
china is not against US, china just tell US that they took the wrong & expensive way in developing AI. and in AI, the more open is better.
not totally correct，it is a battle between Chinese and Chinese in US
Your view is so binary.
Everyone else view it as Chinese-Americans vs Chinese-Chinese.
Making it open source is a big slap in the face of US. US's sanction on chips now becomes a joke.
It's open-source because its FROM [correction: all the open-source AI models that already exist]
There is no 'slap in the face' and now you're sneering and slapping the face of anyone.
Blackwell spending from hpyerscaler becoming a joke, too.
@@theasianjaywalker4455 No, R1 is based off of DeepSeek V3, not Openai o1. Please read the documentation!
@@theasianjaywalker4455 Open AI is literally closed AI . They are proprietary model . Meta AI is open source . You can literally call Open AI as CLOSE AI
@@theasianjaywalker4455OpenAI also got a lot of aka. It’s not like they are original and novel 😅
US bullying didn't work. and kudos to DeepSeek for making their tech open source!
@@peterwilliamson1so pathetic of your soul, look at the barbaric white scums has done on the American continent, in Africa, Jesus you need some moral guidance.
@@peterwilliamson1 cry about it
@@peterwilliamson1
From what I read from wi key. Leeks
Contrary to popular belief the cl Ashes happened outside in the streets leading up to the square
Near the end as their Government sent in po lice/sold iers with non lee thal whe pons In an attempt to end the pro test
Where some were bee ten to de ath or bur ned alive in their vehicles by mostly stri king workers
Where the po lice/sold iers came back later that night with lee thal whe pons
I don’t know what country you are from but where I’m from
if you take part in a “peaceful” pro test And police are bee ten to de ath or bur ned alive in their vehicles?
You don’t stick around to see what they will do when they come back later that night
In the end we know when the po lice/sold iers finally made it to the square…
they actually let the students leave but….
they did eventually go after the student leaders in the aftermath
Where our western narrative was the Chinese Government caused the demise of students for no reason.
@@peterwilliamson1
To me it looks like the USA just offshored its dan ger ous path o gen /Gain-Of-Function research to China like they did everything else
What we do know for sure is Obama put a moratorium on Gain-Of-Function research in 2014
Where the Republicans were blaming Fauci for lifting that moratorium in 2017 under Trump
The narrative the western Mainstream Media finally gave to us, that it was wet markets
Then trump for the first few days blamed it on this BSL4 Biolab the first of its level in China
Where it was promoted as some some secret d ark site/military site by the Mainstream Media that the Chinese were using to make some bio logical wea pons
But then trump and Mainstream Media stopped
That’s because most of the worlds…
world renowned virologists had access to this Biolab or collaborated with this Biolab
And as well as with 40 plus American scientists embedded their Chinese CDC
It was the America who came up with the partial funding for this Biolab. The French who built it
And it was America, France, UK, and Canada who trained the scientists working at this Biolab
Yes America financed that Gain-Of-Function Research
If you asked me how embarrassing for these world renowned virologists to be telling us it was wet markets
When just 2 miles away in a hospital outside the most secure Biolab in the country
was where they found the earliest patient zero
Spending millions a year working on trying to make more de ad lier vi rus es … when none of these guys thought to test the wet market 7 miles away or hospital 2 miles away… just outside their doors
Especially since now we know a few of the Covid strains hit us until it morphed into Covid 19
👇
State Department cables warned of safety
issues at Wuhan lab studying batcoronaviruses
By Josh Rogin
April 14, 2020 at 5:0
* In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018.
*During interactions with scientists at the WIVlaboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” states the Jan. 19, 2018, cable, which was drafted by two officials from the embassy’s environment, science and health sections who met with the WIV scientists. (The State Department declined to comment on this and other details of the story.)
The Chinese researchers at WIV were receiving assistance from the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and other U.S. organizations, but the Chinese requested additional help. The cables argued that the United States should give the Wuhan lab further support, mainly because its research on bat coronaviruses was important but also dangerous.
WAPO
@@peterwilliamson1 small-minded & stuck in the past
USA to China. "here is a nice juicy Tariff"
China to USA.. "how about we sink your tech bubble "
Lmao they cooking for real
And I highly doubt that this is China's most recent AI model... They're just giving us free stuff
@vivr670 They got better AI but still developing...
USA to China: Quit stealing out IP, get back to us when you have MS, Google, Apple, etc.
The US is gonna ban the GPU used to train Deepseek soon... 💀💀💀
Don't worry. In a few years, they will kick ass in hardware too and make it inexpensive for all other countries to buy.
You are right. China plans to replace Intel and AMD CPUs in govt offices by 2027. One of the developing brands is Loongson CPU.
Not for US consumers. The goverment will make sure they are keeping American billionaires rich lol. That's why their propaganda is China is evil.
They have their business model.. never are they going to 180. BTW if you don't know what their business model is.. it's study what the competition did good and bad and then make something similar but with all the fixes to the other people's downside. Also I don't think they're going to drive prices up. What they're doing I believe is to undercut the competition continuously until there's no longer any competition. The future is going cheaper instead of expensive.
That's a good thing for the world cheap cpus and gpus and they don't put export restrictions
@@cheekeongchan6605 long live USA🇺🇸🇺🇸
Can I conclude as three completions: China vs America, open vs close, Chinese in China vs Chinese in America
Proletariat vs Capital
oligarch vs working class
China supports Cyber Sovereignty. This open source nature definitely helps this concept.
US Chinese will think twice against Chinese...... not worth it
Chinese in China vs Chinese Ameircans? No. This is wrong. You know why?
1st - this isn't our idea, but White Americans idea. We Chinese Americans don't care and are just work to make a living.
2 - many of us are proud, praise, and are happy with China's accomplishments since it is good to see our own fellow brothers and sisters doing well. Especially those who have family memebers in China.
This is White Americans idea and they wanted to piggyback off Chinese Americans and Asian Americans in general, who are smart and then claim the credit. We Chinese Americans knows we get nothing out of this because anything done will mean more money in the White man's pocket. Now, why should we really care? All this means is wealthy white men piggy backing off others just so they can make more money. I think what we should do as Chinese Americans, is just hijack the whole system and install tons of malware into them and then let the white Americans fix them.
this is why i respect chinese a lot. they don't talk, they don't brag, they don't tell you what they are doing. and when the whole world think they are left behind, they shock everybody with result.
It's true. We just do our thing and that is why we get more done because we don't do all that and just work.
Time to burst the US AI bubble.
How? with a OpenAI clone??
They did what they knew they could do… art of war. Beautifully executed chess move. They will push this republican party to the breaking point. War or submit? The people will ultimately have the final say but it will not be pretty.
@ What are you even talking about?
@@theasianjaywalker4455 By making OpenAI (ClosedAI) an OpenAI lol
@@theasianjaywalker4455Nasdaq index tells
Tech companies should be run by engineers and not MBAs.
They are run by Indian "talented engineers".
America government should not run by Oligarchy....
@@brianye964 nah bro. the "talented" wyte mbas are the ones hiring the indian "talented engineers". i love how wyte people always blame minorities when they are the ones who keep hiring and bringing them in lmao.
@@brianye964
Lead by lesbian swimming dei manager
@@brianye964and Starbucks??
Deepseek is better, free and open-source
Have 2 deep seek ,one is open source one is close source, you are silly
read the Terms of Service of the closed source model
This also allows EU to be more independent (out of the US). But I guess EU doesn't publicly appreciate this because it comes from China.
@@oceanwave4502 it is importance, deep seek free
Have you used it? It's not better
Bravo China 🇨🇳 for giving free to the world…..amazing 👏👍🎊🎉
Is really a slap in the face of illiberal chinese culture.
deepseek just latent space parameterized western corpus components which are largely doing the heavy lifting in terms of innovative reasoning given the lingua franca of modernity is english in the major domains.
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*me asking deepseek::* _"given english is the lingua franca of many domains then surely you bias toward english chain of thought?"_
*deepseek's reply:* _"You're absolutely right to point out that English, as a global lingua franca, plays a significant role in shaping my training data and, by extension, my responses. This does introduce a bias toward English-based patterns of thought, especially in domains where English dominates, such as science, technology, and international discourse."_
@@blengi Cope.
@@blengi not sure what you think your point is? Just sounds like you whining about them doing it better for free and fraction of the costs cus you tribal about corporations and can’t accept other territories doing stuff
@@blengi ' illiberal chinese culture' looks like your mind is brainwashed pretty good, a good result from western media.
@ ? Like all you trying to do is western supremacy, act like China or other cultures didn’t have thinking or reasoning and not recognise you can easily exploit a culture for targeted reasons? Western world was clearly the focus because it was to undermine western AI and China has its own ancient well cultured history, you just a weirdo that can think intelligence or thinking exists outside western which is smart and layered? It was targeted at westerners not because west is superior by universe but to knee cap western AI bubble
China is graduating 8x as many STEM grads as the US. So is it a surprise China is passing the US in tech. The US probably has a lot more MBAs which is great for building stock bubbles.
But China will never catch up with the US in gender studies/research.
That's hilarious n true that UAss is big big big burble of economy wealth weapon nuke intelligence power GPD democracy development technology soon we'll find out that lot American wealth millionaire n billionaire reduce to 1/10 what it brag about it.
8x as many STEM grads that are only good at one thing.. copying! Only American STEM grads can make new stuff :)
Whenever I see China advances, I smile.
I think a lot of people do, it is always nice to see the "underdog" perform to the annoyance of the top dog.
may i know where you are from?
@@Peter-649 Americans are just being so comfortable for too long. No one likes that but stays silent but we Chinese want change
@@shawnjaded1539 you are form china?
People in the Global South are also smiling, given China advances. But they have to do it silently because they're afraid of getting attention from the West (thus, risk sanctions).
Open Source is the way forward for AI. That way all of Earth can benefit.
OpenAI invited CIA agent to be in its leadership board. I don't want to believe in conspiracy, but...
The point that they glossed over wasn't about "software", but hardware. Deepseek found a way to train a very good AI model that requires far less hardware than expected.
I wonder what its benchmark would be with the latest nVidia hardware.
They also prolonged the lifecycle and pricing for older Nvidia hardware. Nvidia will expand its customer base beyond big tech which will keep buying Blackwell.
I am currently using DeepSeek R1 and it is as competitive and doing better ❤❤
I run DeepSeek R1 and Qwen2.5 locally on my computer. I actually like Qwen which is more likely to be wrong, but it is faster and could run at the same speed as GPT on a standard PC at home. most of my question and request is just basic info and Qwen is good enough for summarizing stuff. if I need to solve problem, I switch to DeepSeek. as impressive as DeepSeek is, it is not the only Chinese model that is impressive, Alibaba's Qwen are quite useful too.
Yes I tested it and it's performing way better than ChatGPT
America used to be the champion of free and open source but greed changed everything
Correct.
when was this?
dont think it ever was. ibm and mac story repeating. unaffordable both were replaced by cheaper compatible machines within couple of years and holds till today.
No it’s about security
No it wasn't. They were all about taking and plundering and living off cheap labor and free slave labor while making tons of money and this was since ever. This is why USA cannot even accomplish half of what China has accomplished in the last 250 years. China on the other hand have accomplished ALOT in 15 years than USA ever did in 250 years. I don't just mean tech, but poverty, advancement and many others. They done so much for the world that USA would never dare to do and you call it champion of free and open source? When was this? I grew up with RACISM and we Asians in general were told to S*CK IT UP. Did you do anything to help us? No you profited off our hard work ethic AND our knowledge like you did with the Rail roads and gold mines. We Chinese were used to help the white man get rich. You call it Champions? WHEN AND WHERE?
Don't spend money trying to stop China. Improve, be better.
Exactly. Stop being haters.
Don't "Tonya Harding" the competition. Compete on a level playing field. Cheaters only cheat themselves. OTOH, China has taken (i.e. stolen) more tech than it has given.
in short, don't be a loser.
Hush now, don’t correct them
Believe me we Asians don't care anymore. After Asian hate, I rather see USAgo down in history as the biggest clowns the world has ever seen at this point. The level of BS and Racism that i dealt with through my grand parents, parents, friends, other family memebers and me makes me want to laugh and spit in the white man's face.
China : Deepseek
Us : deepshit
India : deepshock
😂True.
India: Sukhdeep
@@ReallyJustAnotherDay Haha, one of Admin on at work place has the same last night, I can't stop laughing inside lol.
😂
@@greedyinvader9462 buy the dip
If China can do it with USD6 million, just imagine if China just pump in a billion dollars. By then, there is no way all the US AI companies combined can win the AI war.🤣
True, these billions being poured into AI in US by the govt is also just corruption. OpenAI who has open in its name has closed source models. The US just doesn't want china to succeed thats all, because china doesn't run according to degenerate western ideology, US doesn't want china to access tech
The US companies are swimming on money/funding, so they're tempted to just use it as much as possible. China doesn't have this luxury, so they have to be efficient.
It's not China/USA, it's startup vs big corp
@@q5go84q American capital owns the United States.
@@q5go84q not true, loads of US ai are start-ups, and how start-ups work in the US favours this kind of inefficiency. there's too much of a speculation bubble inflating what the companies are actually worth. most start-ups in the US are not going to then release it as open source, they have investors to answer to. plus, the cost of living for quality of life is extremely high, it affects numerous factors in efficiency and innovation (basically everything that is a core industry in the US is privatised, which just means the government gives big pay outs to these companies to run but it only benefits the companies and no one else).
think boeing, the pharmaceutical industry - the absolute extortionate prices these guys can add to make everything more expensive cause they're a monopoly, but they still have the state funding them as they're too big to fall... in china, these companies aren't bailed out or people in charge get arrested for corruption if they're responsible for excessive price gouging nowadays. meanwhile i'm from the uk that basically has NO tech innovation in the past 20 years lol.
China is number 1, not number 2! The metrics explicitly show this. And they open sourced it! And compacted it to 7B and even 1.5B (though not as effective). Thank you China. You are the real world leader.
They spent about 7m usd only for deepseek😅
@@LouiseChong-xk5xp but us is about to spend $500 billions to advance their research
@@thetipsymankey Talk about overpriced price tag for a no show
@@thetipsymankey they can print money all they want
@@thetipsymankey Its not the Governments money..... Why are so many people getting this confused. The US hasn't spent 500 billion innovating so far, its a plan for the future, they are going to use a nuclear power plant. China just takes what it can when it can and then everyone eats up their propaganda with no questions whatsoever. I have alot of issues with the way OpenAI has acted but come on the US is literally leading the way through, China """catching up""" is the same as it has ever been. Oh and the nice touch of over censorship of their flagship model not the distilled llama models makes any reasonable person still use American AI.
The US throwing daily tantrums is a symptom of it's eventual decline. And we in the Global South are loving it
@@gmsson9781 as if global south is rising, lol.
Even after the decline, the USA will still be among the top two superpowers.
Meanwhile, global south, especially India will still have to worry about China for decades to come.
@gmsson9781 As if the global south is rising, lol.
Even after the decline, the USA will still be among the top two superpowers.
Meanwhile, the global south, especially India will still have to worry about China along with its billion problems for decades to come.
Yeah because you are butthurt 😂
@@cathode5115 USA is butthurt, and oh boy it hurts
@@cathode5115A declining empire is most dangerous
AI is for the people, not for the select few capitalist & oligarchs.
no no no, the title should be"China's tech advances because of US curb"
In the 2004 Stephen Chow's movie "Kung Fu Hustle", in the final fight, after tackling all the dirty ticks and attacks of the Beast, the Beast was finally defeated and stunned, asking "what kind of move was that?". Sing responded sincerely and said, "you want to learn that? I'll teach you." That's the same mindset why DeepSeek open sourced its AI algorithm.
Yeah. China did it on the day of Trump's inauguration and they did it intentionally to say "Hey, USA Surprise!!" and we Chinese Americans were like "Nice!!! " because many of us don't see this as Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China. This is really Wealthy white man's idea of competition and they want it because they want money, power and control. We Chinese Americans are like "Meh I show up to work and do my thing and then make a living. Why should I care just to help a bunch wealthy white men get rich?"
At least we all know that we don't need that many GPUs to get major improvement in AIs
Time to sell NVIDIA Stocks
@@rexmanigsaca398Yes
if it optimize for AMD/ARC/ARM it would be no brainer to take advantage
Only countries classified as Tier 1 by the US are allowed full access to American AI technology. Basically, just the West and a few US-occupied nations in the east. In contrast, China is simply sharing it with all countries, a profound gift to the world.
The three non-West countries, Japan, South Korea & Taiwan were only included as they are needed to make the AI chips. The rest of the world were in Tier 2 with restricted access to AI chips.
@@cheekeongchan6605 15 countries in tier 1, most probably white countries and few servants, in tier 2 all neutral countries and tier 3 china...they have strong jealosy to china
There's also a Tier 3, which is entirely barred from receiving advanced US AI technology. China is on this list.
The West treats every economics and technological development outside of Western sphere as a threat to their hegemony
Yeah. Along with others, China has done wonders that the USA would never dare to do.
It's a side project. Crazy.
😊😊😊
its a "side" project? damn
It's a hoppy. HOPPY 😂
It's not tho
they failed badly in their main project, a quant fund of China's A share market. then they took a less challenging project, deepseek😂
Deepseek is awesome
DeepSeek the black swan.
For American billionaires but a godsend for the rest of humanity!
another Sputnik moment
OpenAI and the likes (Microsoft/Google)'s models may have a slight advantage here and there, in LLM/AI. But their models can't justify a huge cost imposed on end-users. Let alone the "blackbox" of their LLM.
Bloomberg Monday Wednesday Friday: China is a threat
Bloomberg Tuesday Thursday Saturday: China is collapsing
Sunday: take a break
Haha 😂😂
It's serious threat to American empire and it's collapsing at the same time 😂
A dying empire says anything out of desperation 😂
The worst thing about all this is them speaking freely and not having any shame that they are trying hard to stop china from innovating
Big slap 👋🏽 a very tight one. Appreciate China for making this open source. China staying true to the original principles of Open Source.
Didn’t hear them say it was copied, stolen or a treat …… yet!
what was used to train it??
@@manonamission2000Why dont u ask ur chatgpt, genius.
Most progress is made building on the work of others.
@@sunrizenTrash progress
@@sunrizenwhat others ?
I like this stark exposition of how bloated and inefficient US corporate practices are. Hundreds of millions for R&D work that China can replicate (actually do better in instances) with less resources
It is about time they got into the race.
I told you, only China buy expensive Nvidia ai chips
Once they can break 3nm with Ascend chip, Huawei will be the most valuable tech company in the world
It's true. So China have the most spending power out of any nation and if we measure it by that, then China is actually #1 in the economy by a huge margin. There are tons and tons of legacy wealthy Chinese in China and I am saying this because many will think Chinese Americans are like that but we aren't. Majority of the Chinese Americans came from a poor family who wanted a better life out here, so we have to work our way up. The legacy Chinese in China have wealth ingrained in their bloodline and these are the Chinese that were mentioned in Crazy Rich Asians movie.
You can try to limit hardware but you can't limit software
Not really , but US forbidden American citizen or queen can’t Holder to work in Chinese AI related technology company.
@@Alexpktang
its just mater of time
if chinese could pull the trick with limited hardware
they absolutly could optimize the softarware
(since all code work with the same principle,they could make their own standarization)
The “despite” in the title is wrong. Because of sanction, China is more and more focusing on its own research and manufacturing of chips, thus accelerating the innovation.
Yep. Me and my friends were talking about it too. Originally, Chinese were ok with doing business overseas to get these things, but when sanction happened, that drove Chinese to want focus on its own research. This is because they need it and since they cannot access it anywhere, they decided to do their own.
America is also moving away from free trade, capitalism, sharing tech and science, education. This discourages many of the best scientists who live to share.
don't forget that the cost to run deepseek is only the 1/30th.
1)Its so funny that US tried to block chips to China and now They have 10mm and below tech closer than before
2)Blocked Software tech, and they made their own OS
3) Now an open source LLM which performs better than anything else. lmao
USA: We block China from the latest tech.
China: Ok, then we'll just do it ourselves.
Top of the 10 not Top 10
I wonder how OpenAI will account for the $500 billion they raised, since what they are working on now is already obsolete by what Deepseek launched.
Wouldn't it be funny (and tragic) if OpenAI launched a newest version for $500 billion but with performance below that of Deepseek which cost $5.5 million?
I'm worried that Sam Altman has been having a severe migraine for the past week.
The AI bit is an excuse for stealing the world's intellectual property. That has enduring value. "If you don't relax your IPR and let us take everything royalty-free, then you will miss the AI boat"
Well this isn't Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China. This is really USA(Specifically Wealthy white men) vs China and they wanted to enforce this on us to help them get richer and more powerful.
I've used DeepSeek and found it very good. Not perfect but better than the alternatives.
Yeah the thing is China have really good algorithm that I feel like Americans don't understand. They tried to learn about it from tiktok, but I don't think many Americans understands it well to know how it works, but I believe China is going to be the ones who will drive AI
That Bloomberg Intelligence senior analyst was completely clueless. Tel Aviv is definitely not getting its moneys worth.
Karma
Jensen hyping up his expensive chips for AI is now dead LOL
That's good. So hopefully I can get an RTX 5090 when it is released.
Imagine all new innovations being open sourced to benefit humanity. If China leads it's easy to imagine
This was how Nikola Tesla wanted, but greedy Americans took it away from him and gave him no proper credit in history. He was really ahead of his time too! Apparently rumors mentioned that he figured how to time travel but he wasn't able to finish. The FBI and the CIA apparently have all his blueprints, notes and diary on how to but they still cannot figure it out. It's sad to waste such talent because Nikola's goals does not align with the American Elites.
What is the name of the new AI JV (Oracle, Open AI and Softbank) announced by Trump? Deep Shit?
😂
Trump just cried rape again. Deepseek has gone deep. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
musk said they themselves don't really have that kind of money, it's more like a scam using Trump's presidencial fame to attract investors.
500 billion for Stargate but the national debt is 36.4 trillion right now. It looks like the US doesn't even attempt to reduce their debt.
The US still thinks that they are the most advanced country in the world. Lmfao
They've branwashed themselves with their propaganda
@@VonGoldfinger The US has fallen behind in almost all areas. Chinese companies are making very effective cheap products. I’ve been considering a BYD car for my next car and a Chinese branded phone. US companies are not offering products for a similar price point or having as many features.
Especially with their 5G. When USA rolled out 5G, it was really 4G with a 5G label on it. China on the other hand actually have 5G.
@leeman1525 full of spying. More list goes on without you noticed and congratulations. 🤦♂️
Ive extensively tested deep seek and it's seriously mind-blowing. It out performs several models available currently and i recon everyone using llama, gpt 3.5/gpt 4/, mistral will just replace it with deep seek. Its thinking process helps you diagnose and fix bugs, what used to take a month or two for prompt engineering will now take days
Imagine if there weren't export controls for NVidia GPUs, China will be far ahead of the US. I wouldn't be surprise if the US is going to stop NVidia from even selling the low end chips to China, which is going to hurt NVidia financially.
The amount of cope I've seen from US tech bros😭😭
For us non-Americans, the fact that we can get similar performance to o1 which cost $200 per month for free with DeepSeek, is simply amazing. And they also released distilled versions which you can run locally and fine tune as much as you want.
China has one of the best education systems in the world, the most important thing is that it is free. In the US, traditionally, all science was done at the expense of immigrants bribed with printed money based on oil trade in dollars. Let's hope that the world will rub its eyes and refuse the dollar.
@@Sideritis re-education too for those that get lost ;)
If u exploit the ppl for too long, one day it will definitely backfire, like the bubble in your beer or the ever so high stock with speculation purpose and not real growth.
And they made it with scraps.
IN A CAVE!!!
Using Commadore64s.
"im sorry mr trump....im not chinese"
Open source. Incredible and a gift to the world! What a coup for emerging economics with limited resources but with talented scientists and engineers such as Iran and Egypt as 2 examples.
This is part of China's philosophy of "seeding the developing world" with tech and infrasture. With initiatives such as the Belt & Road (150+ countries), and BRICS. Countries that would otherwise be BLOCKED by US Hegemony and other Western Anglo Neocolonial powers.
Don't forget the incredible energy savings.
BTW, don't expect Trumps AI initiative to be very successful. Why? It's the US throwing money at the problem without any industrial or strategic policy and planning. And we KNOW the money will not be equably distributed. Much will be laundered to their "buddies" just like the Biden Admin did. Why do you think the big tech firms, deserted the Dem's and were in "Power Ranger" mode at Trumps inauguration?
Americans are morons to believe they can harness AI brainpower and keep it within their borders, or - unethically - only distribute it to slected partners, countries who kowtow to them.
Underestimating China, like they have with Russia, is a grave, almost unrecoverable strategic mistake. It guarantees that China will eventually take leadership as they already have with the majority of critical tech.
China's Education and Talent is a Grounding Force.
China graduates more PhD Scientists and Engineers, and grads in ALL STEM fields than the US and G7 countries combined!
China's University System is now ranked #1, most comprehensive, and their universities lead in many of the core critical technologies required of the "4th Industrial Revolution" which they also lead.
Unless the US can pull its head out of the "Zero-Sum Rabbit Hole" and discover "Win-Win" collaboration and equality with countries of color, America's tech future will be on the descending spiral.
And "This is the Way" to America's decline...
Wow. The ultimate flex.
Bravo China.
💪
Most AI team in Emerica is 40% Chinese, 30% Indian, 30% European, mostly German, some Italian and 0% Emericans.
Emerica prefer finance and lawyer
American tech companies paid their CEOs more money than Deepseek spent on developing this AI
It's true. So this isn't really about Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China, but more about American Oligarchs vs Chinese in China.
A significant portion of AI researchers in the US are of Chinese origin because China has heavily invested in AI education, producing a large pool of talented researchers who often migrate to the US for further studies and career opportunities, making them a prominent presence in the American AI research landscape; this is further fueled by the strong emphasis on STEM fields in Chinese education, leading to a high number of qualified candidates in the field.
I thought the Chinese couldn't innovate?
Of course they copied from chatgpt and other existing ai models. Even the ui looks chatgpt clone
@@shaikhhar6911poor and jealous Indian😂
@@shaikhhar6911 everyone is using paper Ancient Chinse invented, what is wrong with using others' invention?
The smartest minds in the world are all in China
Cope harder 😂😂@@shaikhhar6911
it's good to see anyone challenging USA. I hope more countries could join this AI game
OPEN AI => CLOSED AI
DEEPSEEK => OPEN AI
This is a market correction, maybe they are just looking for someone to blame
The question is did it really cost billions to train or not, in a way they might be scamming their investors and customers
One US tech company executive's salary is higher than what took DeepSeek to achieve what it does today.
Now that is a very good question.
Slap a 1000% tariff to Deepseek R1 token fee, problem solved.
The rate at which these technologies are outperforming each other, makes it illogical to invest billions into them.. Seems to me, they are going to eliminate each other.
if these Chinese tech guys could get most advanced chips they will offer better products for free. US has become the barrier for tech innovation.
习近平领导下的经济、社会和人口挑战
习近平的领导风格以其不懈的努力来稳定中国的经济、打击腐败，并解决深层次的社会和人口问题。没有任何其他中国领导人像他一样在如此广泛且具有挑战性的领域进行应对。尽管面临来自权力斗争的压力，以及县级和地方官员滥用权力、破坏法律的顽强抵抗，习近平依然坚持将中国建设成一个繁荣、公平、具有全球影响力的国家。以下是对习近平领导下的挑战、重大案例和应对方案的全面分析。
经济挑战与反腐运动
习近平的反腐运动在规模和深度上无与伦比，不仅打击了高层的“老虎”，也清除了低层的“苍蝇”，这些人利用自己的权力进行腐败。尽管面临来自既得利益者的激烈抵抗，他的政府依然致力于解决政治、军事和商业领域的腐败问题。
重大腐败案件
政治与军事腐败
1. 周永康：前政治局常委、国家安全部部长，因受贿和滥用职权被判终身监禁。
2. 薄熙来：曾是重庆市委书记，因腐败被判终身监禁。
3. 孙政才：高级官员、习近平潜在对手，因受贿被判终身监禁。
4. 徐才厚和郭伯雄：前中央军委副主席，因腐败被免职，为军改铺平道路。
经济与金融丑闻
银行与金融
1. 中国华融资产管理（2021）：超过150亿美元的损失，前董事长赖小民因腐败被执行死刑。
2. 宝商银行倒闭（2019）：超过200亿美元的不良贷款，标志着20年内首次国有商业银行被接管。
3. 民生银行丑闻：虚假金融产品导致超过20亿美元的损失。
4. P2P借贷平台丑闻：
• e租宝（2015）：虚假投资导致76亿美元损失，90万投资者受害。
• 前宝（2018）：虚假“任务”诈骗导致90亿美元损失。
• 团贷网（2019）：35亿美元违约，影响22万投资者。
• 河南农村银行危机（2022）：通过虚假运营冻结了60亿美元的存款。
5. 吴小晖（安邦保险）：因诈骗和挪用资金被判18年，揭示了金融行业的不稳定。
企业失败
1. 恒大危机：负债高达3000亿美元，暴露了房地产市场的系统性风险。
2. 安邦保险（2018）：因过度扩张和1000亿美元高风险收购被国有化。
3. 海航集团破产（2021）：负债1700亿美元，因过度扩张而陷入财务困境。
4. 瑞幸咖啡诈骗（2020）：虚报5亿美元的收入，最终被纳斯达克退市。
房地产危机
1. 碧桂园危机（2023）：负债2000亿美元。公司未能按期支付部分债务，突显流动性危机。
2. 碧桂园在马来西亚的失败项目：在马来西亚投资1000亿美元建设的森林城市项目，旨在吸引中国买家。然而，由于中国资本管制政策和全球房地产需求下降，该项目未能达到预期，成为国际房地产投资的警示案例。
3. 佳兆业集团（2021）：负债128亿美元，佳兆业，作为中国最大的房地产开发商之一，未能偿还其债务。该公司的财务困境引发了人们对中国房地产行业稳定性的担忧。
4. 万科危机（2017）：万科是中国最大的房地产开发商之一，当时因宝能集团试图发起敌意收购而爆发管理危机。内部动荡影响了公司股价和市场稳定，揭示了中国房地产行业在公司治理和股东激进主义方面的弱点。
5. 正荣集团（2017）：中国房地产行业的主要参与者之一，正荣集团违约了超过15亿美元的债务，导致公司进行重组。此案突显了由于过度扩张和高负债，部分房地产开发商面临的财务不稳定。
跨境犯罪与诈骗中心
• 打击缅甸诈骗中心（2023）：中国政府关闭了在缅甸的大规模诈骗中心，这些诈骗中心通过虚假投资、网络赌博和电信诈骗等方式，骗取全球受害者。多名嫌疑人被逮捕并被遣返回中国进行审判。这一打击行动彰显了习近平在应对跨境犯罪时的决心。
中央纪委的挑战与治理问题
尽管中央纪律检查委员会（中央纪委）在习近平的反腐运动中发挥了关键作用，但它本身也面临着内部腐败问题。
中央纪委的腐败案例
1. 刘建军（2015）：一名高级纪委监察员因接受贿赂和未能调查所分配案件而被判刑。
2. 肖培（2016）：另一名纪委官员利用职务保护腐败同伙，换取金钱利益。
3. 张华伟（2021）：前中央纪委副主任因接受贿赂和滥用职权被判刑。
解决中央纪委问题
• 招聘新鲜人才：
• 需要招聘具有数字取证、财务审计和法律专业背景的年轻毕业生，以现代化纪委的运作。
• 新的招聘者能够带来创新的方法和独立性，避免与旧有的腐败网络沆瀣一气。
• 加强培训计划：
• 为中央纪委人员提供反腐调查技巧、人工智能应用和反腐法律的全面培训。
• 透明的监督机制：
• 实施第三方审核机制，确保纪委调查的公正性，防止内部掩盖腐败案件。
应对经济与社会挑战的提议
1. 投资可再生能源：
• 扩大太阳能、风能和水电项目，减少每年1万亿美元的能源进口成本。
• 开发关键项目，如在戈壁沙漠建设太阳能发电厂，在四川和西藏进行水电开发，以转化沙漠地区并可持续利用水资源。
2. 工业和交通电气化：
• 建设全国充电基础设施，推动电动汽车普及。
• 将工业机械由石油驱动替代为电力驱动。
3. 就业创造与创新：
• 为大型基础设施和能源项目招聘年轻毕业生，解决失业问题。
• 重点支持人工智能、生物技术和清洁能源的研发。
• 将政府资助的创新技术授权给私营企业，推动工业增长。
4. 治理改革：
• 招聘年轻高学历人才，通过替换年长官员，现代化公共行政管理。
• 建立全国性培训计划，培养未来领导人。
• 加强中央纪委的监督，确保政策执行，重建公众信任。
习近平的独特领导
习近平接手了前所未有的任务，从打击各级政府的腐败到改革根深蒂固的经济和社会体制。即使面对来自权力派系的激烈反抗，以及地方官员滥用职权、破坏法律，他依然展现出坚定的决心，推动中国朝着更加繁荣和公正的方向发展。
在应对新冠疫情期间，习近平的领导面临了内外巨大的压力。中国共产党内部，一些群体，包括部分共青团成员，曾利用其平台批评习近平，质疑政府的抗疫策略，并通过传播不实信息煽动社会不满。部分人通过社交媒体和其他渠道，借机激化社会矛盾，增加了疫情防控期间的复杂性和困扰。这一批评行动不仅增加了政府面临的压力，也让社会更加分裂，尤其是在疫情防控措施和公共卫生问题上的争议。
这些内部的反对力量，尤其是来自共青团的部分成员，在党内会议中提出了对习近平领导方式的批评，最终促使了胡锦涛在一次重要会议上的突然被免职。胡锦涛的离席被认为是这一反对声音的表现之一，标志着党内部分力量试图阻挠习近平在反腐败、经济改革等方面的推进。这一事件突显了习近平在内外压力下依然能够坚定推动中国朝着现代化的目标前进。
尽管面临巨大的挑战，习近平在解决腐败问题上展现了不屈不挠的精神。他在彻底改革政府机构时，表现出对全面治理和透明度的强烈承诺。通过处理腐败、推动经济增长、应对人口问题和改革治理，习近平的领导为中国的可持续发展奠定了基础，并增强了社会的稳定性。
us doesn't even have an anti corruption initiatives lol, we celebrate corruption via political lobbying, we love it being legal 🤣🤣. we'd rather play left vs right games rather than protesting lobbying 🤣
我爷爷2型糖尿病，开了一个月的二甲双胍 和阿卡波糖 结算才4块人民币。让我真的感动❤
是的，越发觉得他是一位伟大的领导人。
welp, they caught us. time to resume money printing!
LMAO
Fortunately this time AI is in the hands of civilization.😀
5:05 Abit of coping and self boosting there at the final part. How is 30 times more efficient and performing the same or better a number 2 globally?
They have the best minds and engineers in the world, the Chinese
@@passby8070 it proves someone was cheating on this
Where all the money invested in AI goes? As a software engineer it's not in our pockets 😂
USA even, its not in our pockets. They wanted to make this seem like Chinese Americans vs Chinese in China, but it is really Wealthy white oligarchs of Silicon valley vs Chinese in China.
And they worry about TikTok security 😂
Pop pop pop burst Ai bubble
The US tech stock value should be 3% of the existing value.
Exactly
Not 3%.. but definitely around 20% of actual value reflects true value
Totally agree with you
@@shaikhhar6911
ChatGpt took 150 over millions to develop.
Deepseek took 5.9 millions to develop.
so near 4%.
ChatGPT hires full time people to develop the system.
Deepseek is a small fraction of a Hedge Fund company project and is developed part time.
I just make a straightforward calculation.
When dollar is world trade currency, everyone wants to sell products to the US to get dollar. When they're full of dollar in their pocket, what do they do? They invest in other things. They don't feel appealed in projects in Turkey (thus, sell dollar to get lira), or projects in South Africa (thus, sell dollar to get Rand). And the US financial market becomes lucrative because of being more convenient: use dollar to invest dollar-asset. If the whole world does like this, the US financial market is swamped with dollar. The investors have to compete to buy stocks in US Stock exchange, boosting the value of each stock. You can clearly see the bubble...
Thank you China. The world is grateful for such a gift.
Let me be brutally honest, we are always ahead until we are not.
TikTok, RedNote, Deepseek, more to come!
Much more. There are alot of stuff in China that isn't open to the public yet, but China already have been able to produce anything that TSMC have especially the most advance stuff.
I know this because my friend who is taiwanese is from Taiwan and it was like 3 years ago when he said "China already can produce anything that TSMC have. Everything that is going to be available in Arizona will be the older tech."
lets ban deepseek😆
lets ban opensource
What an irony!
OpenAI: closed source and confined.
DeepSeek: open source and public.
Don't compete with Chinese on Math and derivatively on AI, LOL.
Scarcity + Necessity = Creativity.
They say, the Chinese cannot innovate 😂😂
Deepseek token prices for 1 million tokens way cheaper than OpenAI too its not even close
So, im running Deepseek R1 8b with 32k context window and the context quantized to 8bit, on 6GB Vram....insane
You're not running Deepseek R1. It requires 100s of GBs of VRAM. You are running a normal model trained on Deepseek replies.
@@isekaidev7803share the source to support your statement, please
@isekaidev7803 wrong, I'm running distilled quantized R1.
Indians and India do not have any AI companies, AI products, AI services that are worth mentioning but you see them bragging all day 24/7. 😅That is the difference between Indian ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts versus Chinese ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts. Chinese believe that their achievements speak louder than words whereas Indians believe that their words speak louder than their achievements (if any🤭). And that is why Indian ceos/techies/tech gurus/IT experts were scripted to be very intelligent and capable on the internet, but in the real world/reality, none of them could not make any app to compete with the Chinese TikTok or the China's DeepSeek AI. Overpaid and over-hyped and over-rated.😆Indians said that Indians rule the tech AI/IT world? 🤔
Are these companies 1) founded by Indians? No
Are these companies 2) made/created by Indians? No
Are these companies 3) owned (ownership) by Indians? No
Indians should constantly ask themselves, what happened to Indian CEO, Parag Agrawal? 🤭
DeepSeek is so amazing 😻
Americans will also reverse Engineer Deepseek, and make a better model
Jai Hind. God father of AI is Geoffery Hinton, but the god of AI is Liang Wen Feng.
No. China is number 1 competitor. Congratulations.
That's why China instead of USA is 5he biggest challenger of India
Yeah. If you been to Shenzhen, you will be amazed
China know how to do it….kings of innovation….
Robert seems like he is to cry . He is thinking how can I ever charge my customer Mt Everest price now if these peasant farmer keep on ploughing the field!😅
Forget about the USA: it’s expensive, old school, closed mind, win-loose strategy; here comes China, it’s affordable or free, new kid on the block, win-win strategy.
Deepseek success implies less GPU demand acceleration . So evaluation of AI comes into ?
DeepSeek is so fun to use. It litarlly feels like having Jarvis as a best friend. Game changer
Everything Made in China Even Peace IYKYK 🐉☎️.
Competition and progress 👍🏾
If they can make Tiktok algorithm. Ai is jo different
it's so hilarious, several 5 massive trillion dollar social media companies and none of them can replicate tiktok's algo success lmao.
Yeah. Americans still don't understand tiktok algorithm completely, but Chinese have the best people to make the AI right now.
The chip restrictions are actually helping them look for efficient ways to deliver AI solutions, the lesson here is sometimes when you think you are blocking an opponent you are actually helping them think better than they would have without the restrictions... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽