People in the Mitsubishi 3000GT community put APR GTC300s onto the factory rear active aero assembly and it actually works amazingly well. This is a really good idea no doubt
You could easily fix the rear view being blocked with a digital rear view camera. This is sick! I love it! Currently trying to think how to replicate this but with a smaller system so it’s not as noticeable
Can I ask how you wired them up and would it be possible to wire to brake lights so flips up under braking then returns to normal position when brakes off
What about a window in the center of the wing to see through? You could cut a square hole and use plexiglass or something similar, to see rearword. Just a quick thought for what it's worth. I like the way you think. I think it's an outstanding idea!!!
They're Miata headlight motors from a 1990-97 Miata. We never tested their maximum power but they're pretty strong. They can lift that wing at 120 mph.
Well, as a Miata shop with lots of Miata parts cars, the Miata headlight motor was a pretty easy choice. You'll have to look into the Pontiac part to see if it has the same built-in control mechanism and is strong enough.
Could you please show how you wired your relay, I’m currently looking at implementing a similar version on my car as I hate how light the back end of my car goes under hard braking.
It's a SPDT relay triggered by the brake lights. Provides 12v to one of the motor wires when the lights are off, 12v to the other when they're on. The logic inside the motors takes care of the rest.
Flyin' Miata thank you from what I can see the red/white wire is power, black earth, yellow and red are up and down on the motor and brake light wire will be the trigger.I will wire a 5pin solenoid off a 30amp fuse with an in-line switch to the dash so I can turn it off when not being driven spiritedly.
bit ;ate top the party here, but I would have run the motors the other way. Seems to be quicker to reset, vs pop up. I'd have thought that a quicker 'up' response would have been more ideal? Awesome idea tho
Honestly I think you could've mounted the motors inside the trunk. Then drilled 2 holes for the rods to go through, and just use a longer thin pipe as a custom rod. That's what I wouldve done.
They guy in the video said I used these spare windshield wiper motors. 👀 you know those are the headlight motors right lol. Either way really cool idea
That's the fun of live videos, you get stuck with the errors. Yes, they're headlight motors - but they're also very closely related to wiper motors, so at least there's that...
@@FlyinMiataVideo a higher wing will be more effective due to more dense air compressed by roof. It can extend the roofline for more straight line speed. Moving it forward closer to cg will help w cornering w/o change in cg . W no equal wing on front this setup actually reduces front cornering power as it is behind the rear axle. The above comment is counter intuitive as adding weight means the tires will have to deal w 1 more g of load x weight throughout the entire friction circle. The drag from the motors is probably negligible and i would extend the wing width to match the car width. Great start and these are simple but substantial improvements
@@dereksomeda4198 Normally the car runs a higher wing, but this prototype setup was built out of old spare parts so it's a bit lower. The front of the car has a heavily vented hood, a significant splitter and dive planes to balance out the wing. Aerodynamic balance is set up a little further back than the static weight distribution so the car's handling balance shifts forward with speed for more stability in fast corners and so I can set it up looser in tight corners to help with rotation. The wing width was chosen because that's the width these carbon fiber "Car Of Tomorrow" wings came in.
Super cool, want to see more modern experiments and hopefully products like this!
People in the Mitsubishi 3000GT community put APR GTC300s onto the factory rear active aero assembly and it actually works amazingly well. This is a really good idea no doubt
Thanks for watching!
Funny Enough I'm doing research rn for a Vr4 time attack build lol just came upon a thread about miats using active aero
Cool use of pop-up headlight motors
You could easily fix the rear view being blocked with a digital rear view camera.
This is sick! I love it!
Currently trying to think how to replicate this but with a smaller system so it’s not as noticeable
This is actually pretty badass.
Very cool! How about doing full perimeter skirts and a sucker motor!😉
Can I ask how you wired them up and would it be possible to wire to brake lights so flips up under braking then returns to normal position when brakes off
That's exactly how they were wired - when the brake lights came on, the wing went into air brake mode. All it took was a relay.
What about a window in the center of the wing to see through? You could cut a square hole and use plexiglass or something similar, to see rearword. Just a quick thought for what it's worth. I like the way you think. I think it's an outstanding idea!!!
I wasn't really keen on chopping up my carbon wing, but it's an interesting idea!
Any chance you could provide the part numbers for the motors you used. Also any idea of the weight/pressure they will support?
They're Miata headlight motors from a 1990-97 Miata. We never tested their maximum power but they're pretty strong. They can lift that wing at 120 mph.
does it have to be miata headlight motor? What about Headlamp Motor for Pontiac Firebird 1993-1997 which is only $48 on Amazon.
Well, as a Miata shop with lots of Miata parts cars, the Miata headlight motor was a pretty easy choice. You'll have to look into the Pontiac part to see if it has the same built-in control mechanism and is strong enough.
You done it don't care what people say cleaver way to do it
Hi what’s the wiring diagram for this thanks
That's top secret😉 I bet there's a relay to control the motors that has a signal from the brake switch. You should have it fused and Key On only.
Think the guy talking about cables means window regulator style on gears
Could you please show how you wired your relay, I’m currently looking at implementing a similar version on my car as I hate how light the back end of my car goes under hard braking.
It's a SPDT relay triggered by the brake lights. Provides 12v to one of the motor wires when the lights are off, 12v to the other when they're on. The logic inside the motors takes care of the rest.
Flyin' Miata thank you from what I can see the red/white wire is power, black earth, yellow and red are up and down on the motor and brake light wire will be the trigger.I will wire a 5pin solenoid off a 30amp fuse with an in-line switch to the dash so I can turn it off when not being driven spiritedly.
bit ;ate top the party here, but I would have run the motors the other way. Seems to be quicker to reset, vs pop up. I'd have thought that a quicker 'up' response would have been more ideal? Awesome idea tho
Honestly I think you could've mounted the motors inside the trunk. Then drilled 2 holes for the rods to go through, and just use a longer thin pipe as a custom rod. That's what I wouldve done.
That’s been suggested many, many times. This was a proof of concept, so drilling holes in the trunk wasn’t part of the plan.
@@TargaMiata ahh.
They guy in the video said I used these spare windshield wiper motors. 👀 you know those are the headlight motors right lol. Either way really cool idea
That's the fun of live videos, you get stuck with the errors. Yes, they're headlight motors - but they're also very closely related to wiper motors, so at least there's that...
I’m gonna do this just wait
Check out this active aero on another Mazda: th-cam.com/video/d2P4gK-bszA/w-d-xo.html
so what happens if you hit it just right and accidentally make it "wink"...
Nothing good, probably. Do that with a cheaper wing if you want to try.
I want a Professor Batshit lab coat....
this adds traction only by weight alone....
The static wing was worth 2 seconds/lap on a track with an average speed of less than 50 mph.
@@FlyinMiataVideo a higher wing will be more effective due to more dense air compressed by roof. It can extend the roofline for more straight line speed. Moving it forward closer to cg will help w cornering w/o change in cg . W no equal wing on front this setup actually reduces front cornering power as it is behind the rear axle. The above comment is counter intuitive as adding weight means the tires will have to deal w 1 more g of load x weight throughout the entire friction circle. The drag from the motors is probably negligible and i would extend the wing width to match the car width. Great start and these are simple but substantial improvements
@@dereksomeda4198 Normally the car runs a higher wing, but this prototype setup was built out of old spare parts so it's a bit lower. The front of the car has a heavily vented hood, a significant splitter and dive planes to balance out the wing. Aerodynamic balance is set up a little further back than the static weight distribution so the car's handling balance shifts forward with speed for more stability in fast corners and so I can set it up looser in tight corners to help with rotation. The wing width was chosen because that's the width these carbon fiber "Car Of Tomorrow" wings came in.