Worth noting the Amalgam mod is absolutely fantastic for two reasons: the radial stagger stacks with slow effects for a 15m forever stun, and the fire rate buff is great with certain incarnons, I use it for synergy with my Furis at the moment. I don't even have the Incarnon form and I've been using it on Gloomruda and Gloom Grendel to great effect. Excited to grab the incarnon adapter next rotation... in 6 weeks... pain.
I am relieved that people are out there who are, in lack of better words, smarter than I am. I messed around with these for hours and got nothing even close. Thank you. ❤
It should be noted that Amalgam Furax Body Count is also a primer mod -- on kill, you radiate Blast procs, which you aren't going to mod onto anything else let's be honest, so it's just a free extra element for CO.
Well I'll be damned, finally someone acknowledges how busted Seismic Palm is. Tied for 4th most powerful among the neutral combo giants (Crossing Snakes, Sovereign Outcast, Votive Onslaught, Pointed Wind, and Siesmic Palm) and feels nice to use too. Now if only someone would talk about how absurd Votive Onslaught is, since it's the only stance that makes top 3 neutral & moving combos (3rd place neutral, 2nd place moving).
Appreciate the review! I picked this day 1 before seeing the other options, good to see it's not useful as a stat stick so I can use it fully on my Wrath version without FOMO.
I just kind of feel like incarnon melee overall is wasted potential. It would be way cooler if the incarnon form was an entirely new weapon based on the original. Like the void energies fusing the furax's together with a handle to make a hammer, or a flail, allowing for a unique stance and attack animations. These animations could be elegant yet unnatural, taking notes from Void Angels and Xaku. The Bo Incarnon could've put a portal down the middle which splits it into two for a dual blades-esqu design, sending different portions down the portal to artificially extend reach. Dark Split Sword stuff, essentially
I was kind of hoping I could pull an arca titron setup type scenario with the furax, but no, it doesnt seem to scale off of slam damage from what ive tested either. It seems like its separately calculated from the heavy slam itself entirely, hence the issue.
Does heat inherit work with the slam attack gimmick? If you primed enemies with a viral/heat Epitaph first and then slammed all the enemies, is the damage still fixed at that tiny amount or does it inherit properly?
I just fully modded my furax wraith incarnon, and with the range perk and primed reach it really does feel like baruuk at home when you spam the neutral combo lol
Don't know if you read this, but could you please do the math on Incarnon Magistar for both versions? strictly from the Incarnon bonuses the based version appears straight up better than the sancti version if you pick Critical Parallel as your 4th evolution(310/260 damage, 36%/42% crit chance 3,0x/2,2x critmulti), but i don't trust my math.
Here's the point: incarnon activation has 1s buff for 90% heavy efficiency, it Does a pathetic heat AoE that doesnt scale, but it has 0.9 follow through and the stats + slash convert perk to be meta for crowd killing.
Some content creators are calling the Furax Incarnon a disappointment while others are saying its good. Guess I'll have to wait 6 weeks to judge for myself.
psst, if you picked up the incarnon skana from last week the base crit chance applies to pseudo exalteds, meaning atlas gains a flat 25cc buff edit: they also recently nerfed the prisma skana incarnon upgrades, so base skana will be your best choice for the adaptor if you’re using it as a stat stick (khora with the sc upgrade can guarantee slash procs with no riven, atlas gains insane cc)
I like furax and i was ready to throw it to incarnon trash, but 5:15 changes it. Why DE didn't put that in description, like wtf, they put info about making small candle fire insted of 90% heavy attack efficiency on slam attack for one sec.
I guess all melee Incarnons feel kinda underwhelming when compared to that sheer annihilation power of gun variants. Anyway, we still have a lot more ahead, looking forward to Dual Ichor and Hate among the melees.
Super high status pure heat klamora/Athodai altfire style beam. High hit frequency, 30s+ duration on Incarnon. Sounds really good but I didn’t pick it up
They were designed to be short-range weapons, so them swapping the ability to hit everything in the room for better dps made sense - right up until DE changed the way range works from being multiplicative to additive which massively buffed the AoE potential of short-range melee. Now the Furax wraith can have a nearly 10m range with the incarnon perk, spring-loaded blade, primed reach and a range riven (over 11m range with the stance) - something which was not accounted for when the stats were decided.
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0:00 Intro & Context
0:23 Furax Incarnon vs Meta
0:47 But Single Target?
1:10 How To Acquire
1:31 Incarnon Genesis Adaptors
2:00 Furax Incarnon Mechanics
2:15 It is still a MELEE Incarnon
INCARNON PERK BREAKDOWN
2:46 Perk 1
3:26 Perk 2
3:56 Perk 3
4:31 Perk 4
SYNERGIES
4:50 Weapon Gimmick
5:12 Heavy Efficiency Hidden Buff
5:35 This is Why Heavy Efficiency Incarnon Perk is Useless
6:05 Slide Attack 4x CD Perk Mechanics
STANCE
6:53 Only Seismic Palm is worth it.
7:23 0.9 Follow Through is crazy
7:53 Furax Incarnon is Similar to Innodem
8:12 How to DPS: Slash DPS
8:39 How to DPS: Slide DPS
FURAX INCARNON
9:01 Build 01 | Slash DPS
9:16 Build 01 | Slash Frequency
9:55 Build 01 | Attack Speed
10:10 Build 01 | Flex Slot Options
10:32 Build 01 | Combo Duration
10:42 Build 02 | Slide DPS
11:08 Build 02 | Lifted Status
11:19 Build 02 | Damage Scaling & Helminths
11:40 Summary
12:08 Verdict
12:32 Conclusion
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Week 1: Braton, Lato, Skana, Paris, Kunai
Week 2: Bo, Latron, Furis, Furax, Strun
Week 3: Lex, Magistar, Boltor, Bronco, Ceramic Dagger
Week 4: Torid, Dual Toxocyst, Dual Ichor, Miter, Atomos
Week 5: Ack & Brunt, Soma, Vasto, Nami Solo, Burston
Week 6: Zylok, Sibear, Dread, Despair, Hate
Worth noting the Amalgam mod is absolutely fantastic for two reasons: the radial stagger stacks with slow effects for a 15m forever stun, and the fire rate buff is great with certain incarnons, I use it for synergy with my Furis at the moment.
I don't even have the Incarnon form and I've been using it on Gloomruda and Gloom Grendel to great effect. Excited to grab the incarnon adapter next rotation... in 6 weeks... pain.
Dont know what Furax is but here supporting :)
Tergooo, thanks man!
Used to be my Atlas, Gara and Khora stat stick, before it was nerfed
Incarnon Bo was a disapointment, but the 7m base range and 90' parry angle is quite hilarious
Was watching you test this live and was decently surprised by its performance
I am relieved that people are out there who are, in lack of better words, smarter than I am.
I messed around with these for hours and got nothing even close.
Thank you. ❤
It should be noted that Amalgam Furax Body Count is also a primer mod -- on kill, you radiate Blast procs, which you aren't going to mod onto anything else let's be honest, so it's just a free extra element for CO.
Well I'll be damned, finally someone acknowledges how busted Seismic Palm is. Tied for 4th most powerful among the neutral combo giants (Crossing Snakes, Sovereign Outcast, Votive Onslaught, Pointed Wind, and Siesmic Palm) and feels nice to use too. Now if only someone would talk about how absurd Votive Onslaught is, since it's the only stance that makes top 3 neutral & moving combos (3rd place neutral, 2nd place moving).
yea votive is nuts. we need incarnon gunsen
@@jellyunicorn8347 Gunsen Prime drops with Wisp. People are gonna understand how good votive is real soon.
@@AziSlays wait is this confirmed? fr?
@@jellyunicorn8347 hell yeah my man
@@AziSlays wait where
Appreciate the review! I picked this day 1 before seeing the other options, good to see it's not useful as a stat stick so I can use it fully on my Wrath version without FOMO.
I use this WITH baruuk prime. A solid "powered down" baruuk when I have trouble eroding restraint.
Week 4 seems to be the most interesting with Miter, Atomos, Toroid and others
I agree, but I am worried about the Torid, since incarnon mode requires headshot to be charged, but with Torid this will be kind of annoying 😂
@@kajita2048 Lmao hopefully it has another charge mode than other incarnon
I am waiting for Boltor and Soma
Week 6 with stalker stuff>
@@kajita2048it has body shot charging.:)
It says it charges on a direct hit, it doesn’t have to be a headshot. It’s nuts.
Mans out here playing TF2 heavy with brass knuckles
we choose the same incarnons this week.... it's like we are soul(frame)mates
I just kind of feel like incarnon melee overall is wasted potential. It would be way cooler if the incarnon form was an entirely new weapon based on the original. Like the void energies fusing the furax's together with a handle to make a hammer, or a flail, allowing for a unique stance and attack animations. These animations could be elegant yet unnatural, taking notes from Void Angels and Xaku. The Bo Incarnon could've put a portal down the middle which splits it into two for a dual blades-esqu design, sending different portions down the portal to artificially extend reach. Dark Split Sword stuff, essentially
I'm just sad that Furax incarnon mode doesn't let you throw hands at the enemy. I mean it's right there and they missed it!
@@Neion8yeah man some like big void fists or something. Hell I’d be cool with some green lantern fists type stuff
The incarnon tree should of had a vaccum strike to drag all enemies in on heavy slam for all melee incarnons
Very cool builds. Really hoping the torid incarnon is good next week 😬
Sup mike_ox here lol. One of the best warframe and elden ring 🗿streamer.
Good to know one of the melee's are actually decent! I haven't heard much good about the Skana or Bo
Skana is only good as a stat stick and bo....bo is really bad just watch Brozime's video on it it's actually depressing
@@scorpiowarrior7841 I feel like Skana stat stick will get nerfed...
@@AuthorityCat it will
@@scorpiowarrior7841 Brozimes builds were also total dogwater….
Bo Incarnon may actually be the longest melee in the game. It looked hilarious on a build that wasn't trash and worked just fine.
I was kind of hoping I could pull an arca titron setup type scenario with the furax, but no, it doesnt seem to scale off of slam damage from what ive tested either. It seems like its separately calculated from the heavy slam itself entirely, hence the issue.
Holy mother of chapters
Does heat inherit work with the slam attack gimmick? If you primed enemies with a viral/heat Epitaph first and then slammed all the enemies, is the damage still fixed at that tiny amount or does it inherit properly?
Something to note the Amalgam Furax mod blast proc is actually impact
The combo pausing perk works with voruna Ulfrum Stance btw, just save the big punches and jump for the big ones and kill the trash with ufrun.
what does that have to do with combo pasuing
@@noahedenborg4221 Entering in ulfrun mode pauses the combo decay on your furax If using this perk
@@Alectroxx so a niche thing
Is Amalgam Furax Body Count not worth it? It does "a lot" but is it worth it?
damn, i guess i have to start doing Duviri Circuit...
TIL follow through is diminishing damage on enemies behind each other
Furax Wraith Incarnon is great for my Crazy Diamond inspired Citrine.
So you are telling me I get a second desert wind, SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
i just go this 2 hours ago, good timing.
5:13 Does the heavy slam incarnon activate apply to all incarnon melees?
I just fully modded my furax wraith incarnon, and with the range perk and primed reach it really does feel like baruuk at home when you spam the neutral combo lol
Is primed smite corrupted the best to use in duviri circuits?
pretty much
Don't know if you read this, but could you please do the math on Incarnon Magistar for both versions? strictly from the Incarnon bonuses the based version appears straight up better than the sancti version if you pick Critical Parallel as your 4th evolution(310/260 damage, 36%/42% crit chance 3,0x/2,2x critmulti), but i don't trust my math.
well it seems one does more dmg and crit dmg but less cc
Here's the point: incarnon activation has 1s buff for 90% heavy efficiency, it Does a pathetic heat AoE that doesnt scale, but it has 0.9 follow through and the stats + slash convert perk to be meta for crowd killing.
Now i just gotta wait 6 weeks to grab this weapon :). cant wait
Some content creators are calling the Furax Incarnon a disappointment while others are saying its good.
Guess I'll have to wait 6 weeks to judge for myself.
Awesome to see a fist weapon crushing it! I will have to pick this one up. I wonder how incarnon weapons work with atlas punch. Probably not at all.
correct
psst, if you picked up the incarnon skana from last week the base crit chance applies to pseudo exalteds, meaning atlas gains a flat 25cc buff
edit: they also recently nerfed the prisma skana incarnon upgrades, so base skana will be your best choice for the adaptor if you’re using it as a stat stick (khora with the sc upgrade can guarantee slash procs with no riven, atlas gains insane cc)
Nice, couldn't find any in-depth videos about this weapon. Pretty sad that the heavy slam mechanic deals no damage.
Question, would the combo count pause synergize with Baruuk?
Does not work, casting serene storm wipes all furax combo if you have that perk selected
mom can we have baruuk
We already have baruuk at home
Baruuk at home:
So it's combo pause doesn't work with baruuk 4th? Feel like I waste my limited adapters on trash de always finds a way to force meta picks
I'd prefer to use the incanon MIGHTY SEER melee mode
Glad I picked thgis and the latron.
Bo Prime has the impact slash perk too.
Is it possible to embodied all and the weapons of warframe I also have for now only a few weapons?
what u mean?
@@noahedenborg4221 If possible to embody all the weapons I have si some
@@marco91rei you mean adapters on other weapons we will have to see so far 30 but they have said more will get them
@@noahedenborg4221 ahh okk 👍😎
The combo pause stoped working after a recent hotfix
Idk why but hearing him say it’s shit makes me giggle
My question is does the saxum set have any unique interaction with the slash on impact evo?
prob not
Okay, I think DE fixed something about this incarnon, because it only had the slam before and only put some fire where you hitted the ground.
is the heavy slam retaining combo interaction unique to the furax incarnon or all melee incarnon?
Unique to Furax Incarnon
I like furax and i was ready to throw it to incarnon trash, but 5:15 changes it. Why DE didn't put that in description, like wtf, they put info about making small candle fire insted of 90% heavy attack efficiency on slam attack for one sec.
What do you think about shattering impact with such high attack speed?
Can work but you will have the bleed from impact perk like 99% of the time
I guess all melee Incarnons feel kinda underwhelming when compared to that sheer annihilation power of gun variants. Anyway, we still have a lot more ahead, looking forward to Dual Ichor and Hate among the melees.
What is your intro music?
maaaan I saw that some incarnon bonuses were better in base furax rather than wraith, guess I'll remake it in six weeks then
always need to compare final stats, not just the bonuses
Hey, have you done a test on the incarnon furis, is it good?
Az didn't pick it
Super high status pure heat klamora/Athodai altfire style beam. High hit frequency, 30s+ duration on Incarnon. Sounds really good but I didn’t pick it up
Thank you for the reply, ill probably invest into it and try it.
after seeing what these incarnon melees can do compared to the guns, im never picking any melee again
i didnt know that furax wraith was a thing before i incarnon’d so i’ll just pretend that it doesnt exist
but it literally says its one of the options if you hover over the furax when you go to choose it?
@@pizzacarl6955 I already chose furax and put it on the adapter
I doubt it’d change it being shit though, lmfao
It do what it be. I was not going to expect to be "meta" but at least, based on AZN testing, not trash.
Well he literally calls it "at top of the meta" but doesn't find it interesting for whatever reason.
@@yomanwtfisthisshit its just another good melee, we have like a dozen of those
@@Lorenzo-bo7id yeah those are all meta, with no really signifcant differences in performance, and this one joined the heap up top.
I still dont get why a FIST AND DAGGER has better follow through THEN A FRIGGIN SWORD
range i guess
They were designed to be short-range weapons, so them swapping the ability to hit everything in the room for better dps made sense - right up until DE changed the way range works from being multiplicative to additive which massively buffed the AoE potential of short-range melee. Now the Furax wraith can have a nearly 10m range with the incarnon perk, spring-loaded blade, primed reach and a range riven (over 11m range with the stance) - something which was not accounted for when the stats were decided.
Would a - impact riven ruin perk four choice?
yes
Whats your settings?
looks like a fun melee at least
This is an example of how math tells you something is "the best" but feels like ass to use
Isn't bers fury better than prime?
depends on densitiy and kpm
I'm so mad I picked both staff
I chose incarnon Bo...
Is Incarnon like Twitch Prime?
I wish bo was good too 🗿
Is his voice AI generated?
no
:3
Melees in general aren't interesting
lol rip those who didnt choose furax because 99% of u chose literally anything else
Or because we can only grab two at a time and we've seen that both Latron and Strun are busted
Wow its so strong it should be nerfed
Too many words
Better than kronen, more like hyping up furax while being sad you didnt pick up latron xd
I actually just put out a latron video 2 days ago