I always find "funny" that most people in Warframe like to say its a nerfed when it was a bug or it was buffed when it also was a bug being fixed (the case being the zymos)
They nerfed gladiator set on sentinels as it was a bug but left the vigilante set working. Sorry but you can't trust DE. They call something a bug when it is convenient.
This pushed me to update my Infested Limbo setup. I always enjoyed spamming Larva however inside the rift completely untouchable and really want to keep it. Given the power Zymos offers, I suppose a Well of Life buddy isn't the most necessary thing. I'm also considering conjunction voltage as a reload bandaid while offering more multishot. The Electric procs coming from Mutalist Quanta bubbles and Arcane Precision making up the lack of Deadhead's raw damage.
If they ghostpatched it out once, I'm a little hesitant to go invest in a Zymos and just hope it sticks around. Still building my forms stash back up after the Incarnons after all.
The fact that the Zymos had this for a long time before and they bothered to patch it back in, means the Zymos is working as intended and that the loss of red crits was a mistake. I think we're safe when it comes to this weapon ^_^
It makes no Difference whether it's Intended or Not.... DE Nerdfs/Fixes things Based on Usage Alone. They can Remove the Red Crits whenever they Feel like it. Besides... I don't Have any Forma anyway so Il Pass on the Zymos 👀
@@NinjaSyao Old bugs pop back up all the time in WF. We don't know that they intentionally reverted this change. Fact is, we don't know anything about which version is bugged until DE says something about it. Which may never happen. I'm not saying it's supposed to be one way or the other, just that I won't be surprised whether it stays this way or gets nerfed in the next patch or a year from now.
@lookalike4805 mate I'd genuinely, 100%build, 5 forma it up & u'll destroy everything in sight, especially if used as shown with ensnare eg. So much red crit deaths, those wee bee's are fvckin mental!🐝💥🐝💥 Did I mention fun af too?😜
Oh hell yeah, my Zymos riven was waiting for this moment. Edit: just hopped on Warframe, noticed I have +200% Secondary Invigoration on Limbo. Shits about to go crazy.
I personally love Limbo, and have been using from day 1. If this Zymos mechanics is back, then, I shall follow your build guide as well. Thank you, teacher.
Oh god. I've beeeeeen waiting for someone to resurrect this weapon. Was even posting on any and all twitch posts hoping they'd add a zymos incarnon/kuva zymos with infested liches
4:09 whilst true, I'm pretty sure PT does work on the seeker spores so they can hit multiple targets. The seeker spores have a life time of 3s so PT + projectile speed makes for a weird alternative way to hit a larger crowd per shot. Also understanding that GunCO is multi on the direct hits from main and seeker projectiles, but is this really worth it assuming you're not priming targets beforehand? I'm genuinely curious. I'm using a Hemorrhage Viral build so perhaps I'm not noticing the difference as much
It matters significantly more if you’re shooting multiple times, but yes, it takes a little bit for the GunCO to get going. It also specifically is only multiplicative on seeker hits, and not the main hits. Main hits are additive.
Suprised you didn't mention Secondary Outburst or Cascadia Overcharge in the weapon arcane section. This seems like the perfect weapon for those arcanes
It's still buggy as hell but it's back. It still doesn't work correctly in multiplayer games. It is super strong but it's not a general use weapon and requires some sort of setup. Been playing since 2014 but when Zymos got released I almost never changed secondaries and it even became my most used secondary with 876k kills already with it...that is up until last year's Nerf, fortunately I kept my riven and also kept believing that it'll return and it returned. I was being discreet about it because it might get nerfed again. I've known about this for more than am month now. That Nerf last year was already weird because barely anybody was using it.
In multiplayer, poor to moderate network conditions can cause spores to never appear, despite landing headshots. Spore explosions also never occur regardless of network conditions. wiki....
I am confused how this work's. Galv crosshairs would add 320% to 5% OF 5%. so 5%+15.4%=20.4% Not huge... Arcane avenger meanwhile goes 5%->50% but the multipliers don't multiply avenger?
trying out the build atm and even if i kill an enemy inside afentis buff for some reason it still disappears and the enemy that is supposed to be floating due to well of life gets immediatly thrown down and only like half of the shoots count as headshots which shouldnt be. am i doing something wrong?
You have to be inside Afentis buff when killing enemy, not the enemy needing to be inside. Where the enemy is doesn't matter, so long as you are inside when you kill. Well of Life is the last thing to be casted, and you must already have Stasis active before you Banish something. The order is have Stasis up -> Banish -> Well of Life.
@@Aznvasions yah i did exactly that, should have been more specific sorry xD. killed the enemy with afentis on the ground while i was inside it and it disappeared (not sure about the buff but im like 60% sure it did not) and the enemy getting thrown to the ground and most of the shots (headshots) did not count. i was using the corrosive build u showed.
What a great time to have accidentally sold it, no joke, I was clearing old gear and didn't notice till a few days later. Just a series of unfortunate events this summer lol
@@VonAkeem "Making time" isn't always possible in the adult world. Jobs suck, and you can't put them off for a video game. Not everyone is gonna be able to just buy more slots.
A fun build, without a doubt, but unfortunately it requires a combination of setup, and a specific Primary/Melee weapon to get the most out of it. That means it's severely gimped in the Circuit, where the chances of getting that combo is practically impossible, and everywhere else, it has to contend with the current incarnon meta, where you don't have to jump through these hoops to delete entire tilesets. In other words, a classic case of "fun but impractical".
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0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:40 Zymos Overview
0:52 Afentis Utility
1:19 Amalgam Furax Body Count
MECHANICS
1:47 Zymos Mechanics
2:08 Multiplicative GunCO
2:36 Crit Scaling Double Dip
2:58 Zymos Crit Equation
3:36 Zymos Riven Options
3:42 Good Warframe Options
ZYMOS
4:07 Zymos Build Overview | Corrosive & Gas & Viral Hemorrhage
4:41 Elemental Flex Slots
5:20 Hemorrhage Setup Viral AoE
5:32 Weapon Arcane Options
WARFRAMES
6:06 Limbo Build
6:35 How To Use Limbo
7:05 Nidus' Parasitic Link Showcase
7:26 Xaku's Gaze Showcase
8:02 Harrow Build | Parasitic Armor
8:49 Harrow Build | Ensnare
9:17 Yareli Build
9:34 Merulina Guardian Mechanics
9:59 Merulina Guardian Proc Requirements
10:24 Conclusion
I always find "funny" that most people in Warframe like to say its a nerfed when it was a bug or it was buffed when it also was a bug being fixed (the case being the zymos)
Schroedinger's Cat Logic... Warframe is both Bugged and Not Bugged until DE says Otherwise.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lookalike4805 the code is soo weird that in every update fortuna for whatever reason gets bugged, like wtf is happening
They nerfed gladiator set on sentinels as it was a bug but left the vigilante set working. Sorry but you can't trust DE. They call something a bug when it is convenient.
people have a weird parasocial relationship with the video game company Digital Extremes and can't figure out what is actually worth complaining about
Shut up nerd
The first Zymos video is already 1.5 years old? I can't believe I have been watching you for such a long time already.
Genuinely one of my favorite weapons in the game, it's really fun to use and the effect is super satisfying (and nasty lol)
This pushed me to update my Infested Limbo setup. I always enjoyed spamming Larva however inside the rift completely untouchable and really want to keep it. Given the power Zymos offers, I suppose a Well of Life buddy isn't the most necessary thing. I'm also considering conjunction voltage as a reload bandaid while offering more multishot. The Electric procs coming from Mutalist Quanta bubbles and Arcane Precision making up the lack of Deadhead's raw damage.
If they ghostpatched it out once, I'm a little hesitant to go invest in a Zymos and just hope it sticks around. Still building my forms stash back up after the Incarnons after all.
been like this for a long ass time
The fact that the Zymos had this for a long time before and they bothered to patch it back in, means the Zymos is working as intended and that the loss of red crits was a mistake. I think we're safe when it comes to this weapon ^_^
It makes no Difference whether it's Intended or Not.... DE Nerdfs/Fixes things Based on Usage Alone. They can Remove the Red Crits whenever they Feel like it.
Besides... I don't Have any Forma anyway so Il Pass on the Zymos 👀
@@NinjaSyao Old bugs pop back up all the time in WF. We don't know that they intentionally reverted this change. Fact is, we don't know anything about which version is bugged until DE says something about it. Which may never happen. I'm not saying it's supposed to be one way or the other, just that I won't be surprised whether it stays this way or gets nerfed in the next patch or a year from now.
@lookalike4805 mate I'd genuinely, 100%build, 5 forma it up & u'll destroy everything in sight, especially if used as shown with ensnare eg. So much red crit deaths, those wee bee's are fvckin mental!🐝💥🐝💥
Did I mention fun af too?😜
Not what i was expecting but its a pleasant surprise. We will hope that the deimos arcanes are reverted next lol
Oh hell yeah, my Zymos riven was waiting for this moment. Edit: just hopped on Warframe, noticed I have +200% Secondary Invigoration on Limbo. Shits about to go crazy.
Just got a zymos riven so I hopped on TH-cam to get a feel for if it was good or not and lo and behold. I’m excited
While this may be powerful the MIGHTY SEER is always king
Omg this is the video I've needed for months.
I personally love Limbo, and have been using from day 1. If this Zymos mechanics is back, then, I shall follow your build guide as well. Thank you, teacher.
Just tried this, the mods cannot be squaring, barely hitting yellows. has it broke again?
Try again but keep shooting 😅
Glad I invested so much into this weapon when I got a riven for it a few months ago
Hemorrhage is so good on Zymos
🐝🐝Zymos' Killer Bee's on the swarm!🐝🐝
Oh god. I've beeeeeen waiting for someone to resurrect this weapon. Was even posting on any and all twitch posts hoping they'd add a zymos incarnon/kuva zymos with infested liches
zymos is too new for incarnon, and its been back for a long time
6:00 bro didn't realize that u are disarmed xD
4:09 whilst true, I'm pretty sure PT does work on the seeker spores so they can hit multiple targets. The seeker spores have a life time of 3s so PT + projectile speed makes for a weird alternative way to hit a larger crowd per shot.
Also understanding that GunCO is multi on the direct hits from main and seeker projectiles, but is this really worth it assuming you're not priming targets beforehand? I'm genuinely curious. I'm using a Hemorrhage Viral build so perhaps I'm not noticing the difference as much
It matters significantly more if you’re shooting multiple times, but yes, it takes a little bit for the GunCO to get going. It also specifically is only multiplicative on seeker hits, and not the main hits. Main hits are additive.
Ahh the cerebral bore of Warframe. Happy you found this out so we can use it too.
Strange, my red crits never left. Never knew this was a thing.
Got crit chance, crit damage and heat on my riven. I suppose that's pretty decent.
Suprised you didn't mention Secondary Outburst or Cascadia Overcharge in the weapon arcane section. This seems like the perfect weapon for those arcanes
Would Scourge work well with this if I don't really care about the reload speed?
It's still buggy as hell but it's back. It still doesn't work correctly in multiplayer games. It is super strong but it's not a general use weapon and requires some sort of setup. Been playing since 2014 but when Zymos got released I almost never changed secondaries and it even became my most used secondary with 876k kills already with it...that is up until last year's Nerf, fortunately I kept my riven and also kept believing that it'll return and it returned. I was being discreet about it because it might get nerfed again. I've known about this for more than am month now. That Nerf last year was already weird because barely anybody was using it.
I think you are missing one of the top performers. Try that set up with a high duration+strength Gyre.
Damn. I recently threw my zymos out. Gonna have to grind again
Isn't Ivara good with it as well? Bc of prowl bonus headshot dmg
Sure... Why not 👍
Mags reload bug still applies
And everything into the top of her bubble is a headshot
Never even thought to try crit with zyomos tho
Dam sexy
Its the Bee Gun!
Been using this on Yareli with combat disciple + arcane avenger + riven with +CC and +CD
and the best part was, that riven cost like 20 platinum
You can drop combat discipline if you're using merulina. Avenger still work as long as merulina is taking damage
how many re rolls though?
@@metalheadzaki what does reroll has anything to do with it?
@@cactus5615 the riven, im asking the poster how many rolls did he/she took?
@@metalheadzaki 0 rolls
the thing is, there is so many people who wanna free up their riven slot, so they sold it for extremely cheap
Babe, wake up. The New SE AFK farm just dropped.
Okay. How about a Nidus with Arcane Avenger and Airburst Rounds for chunky raw damage on every Zymos headshot and easy grouping for the seeking darts?
In multiplayer, poor to moderate network conditions can cause spores to never appear, despite landing headshots. Spore explosions also never occur regardless of network conditions.
wiki....
What do you think of ensnare voruna? Does her 1 give bonus CD to the projectile of zymos?
Why would Ensnare give Crit Damage ? 🤔
@@lookalike4805 my bad. What I meant to say is if her 1 give bonus CD on the projectiles
Pretty Sure All Shroud Of Dinner Buffs only work on Melee Weapons 👀
no her 1 is only for melee
I am confused how this work's. Galv crosshairs would add 320% to 5% OF 5%. so 5%+15.4%=20.4%
Not huge...
Arcane avenger meanwhile goes 5%->50% but the multipliers don't multiply avenger?
There is a timestamp in the video with the crit calc equation on Zymos
was wondering when you'd conver this, been using this for almost a year and it still would red crit
trying out the build atm and even if i kill an enemy inside afentis buff for some reason it still disappears and the enemy that is supposed to be floating due to well of life gets immediatly thrown down and only like half of the shoots count as headshots which shouldnt be.
am i doing something wrong?
You have to be inside Afentis buff when killing enemy, not the enemy needing to be inside. Where the enemy is doesn't matter, so long as you are inside when you kill. Well of Life is the last thing to be casted, and you must already have Stasis active before you Banish something. The order is have Stasis up -> Banish -> Well of Life.
@@Aznvasions yah i did exactly that, should have been more specific sorry xD.
killed the enemy with afentis on the ground while i was inside it and it disappeared (not sure about the buff but im like 60% sure it did not) and the enemy getting thrown to the ground and most of the shots (headshots) did not count. i was using the corrosive build u showed.
wait why unlisted?
I assume there was a copyright warning for a music track
zymos just shoots hornet hives
i do want a melee that shoots flying insects that mabye prime or stun enemys could be neat
Can it still red crit with kullervo update changing some of the incarnon stuff
what does incarnon have to do with zymos
Brekke Knolls
Waiting for death sprinkler prime
How does this work with Zephyr, both her passive and tornadoes?
well without 4 augment you cant hit the heads and passive works
How can you headshot enemy that caught in your tornado?
@@cactus5615 well 1 funnel clouds or by procing void on there head
Not so much the tornado itself, but the damage spreading maybe
Zephyr's Tornadoes already Distributed your Weapons Damage so what would be The Point of this Specific Combo?🤔
Diarrhea Gun Room Clear is back babyyyyy. Finally.
Unfortunately I do not own arcane avenger.
I have the exact same build but my crits are yellow instead of red
I’ve heard it’s buggy and doesn’t work as client
mark of the beast for pistols?
Such a weird weapon. No wonder I never gave it a chance
It Requires Aiming... So Of course I Skipped it 😎
@@lookalike4805 I like aiming and going for headshots. What I dislike is the whole infectious glob explosions on the screen. It's quite irritating.
@@lookalike4805 fr, the Warframe community really be scared of aiming.
My Mesa with 5 tau crimson secondary crits : 👀 🥵🫦
What a great time to have accidentally sold it, no joke, I was clearing old gear and didn't notice till a few days later. Just a series of unfortunate events this summer lol
Why didn't you just Buy more Slots ?
I still have my MK1-Paris and thanks to the Recent Update it's now also my 2nd Most Powerful Bow 👀
@@lookalike4805 not everyone has the time to farm plat, or the money to grab plat. that is simply how reality works.
@genamemmara Its called making time besides its 12p not hard to attain at all but i understand tho
@@VonAkeem "Making time" isn't always possible in the adult world. Jobs suck, and you can't put them off for a video game. Not everyone is gonna be able to just buy more slots.
Some can some cant I can u probably cant depends what job you work i get that
Orlly now
Feels like sobek is heavily nerfed.
what!!!!!!
You gotta math out years
Dam lol
Champlin Inlet
Kuvalis Springs
Claudie Cliffs
Bruh.. I just deleted my zymos trash riv 😢😂
A fun build, without a doubt, but unfortunately it requires a combination of setup, and a specific Primary/Melee weapon to get the most out of it. That means it's severely gimped in the Circuit, where the chances of getting that combo is practically impossible, and everywhere else, it has to contend with the current incarnon meta, where you don't have to jump through these hoops to delete entire tilesets.
In other words, a classic case of "fun but impractical".
Jovanny Trail
Kaylie Lodge
Lenore Light
Buckridge Square
Jay Pass
Gutkowski Union
Youre about to get it nerfed again lol
no its been known that it's good again
Exactly... DE Nerfs Good Things then calls them "Fixes" 👀
im here to say that no one cares and thats not how nerfs work
What the hell was that cringe emo music at the beginning?
Cool gun. I had to unveil a riven by killing 5 enemies with a headshot while in the arch wing. Only had to shoot once.
the weapon is nasty and war crime, gruesome way to kill enemy