I don't think dagoth feeling samey is necessarily because of her kit itself, rather I think it's because of her visuals and casting animations. visually her 1 and 2 look exactly like kullervo's 2 and 3.
I like them both and that they have a similar mark and kill playstyle (that I find super satisfying) but Kull does it as a melee fram and Dagath does it as a caster frame
That makes sense. As if those two frames are saying they both come from Duviri, and are happy to declare that link. Compare that to how Oberon and Titania are. They should both state they tap the same source for their abilities, namely the Silver Grove, to parallel their mythical counterparts, but do not.
So far, these are the only builds I've seen that actually consider her kit for what it CAN do and don't just half ass an "iunno, let's throw this on the pot" build. Big props for taking the time to think through some working builds.
Btw for those that want her prex card go into her dojo room and its above on the right over the first 2 pillars Also 102 thorns for dagath 80 for dorrclave So 15 meters per 1 second for her 4
2:52 34 Vainthorns per part for Dagath, 20 Vainthorns per part for Dorrclave. 182 total Vainthorns needed for all the crafting, plus 4 Argon total (2 each for her and the weapon). All other crafting materials are basic For newer players that join a clan she'll be accessible pretty early on which is nice
@@Mandingy24 I think I might've spent 6 whole hours just doing that mission with a friend on steel path just for dagath. At least I had fun with hydroid
After testing her for quite some time, I have understood that I like her most without subsumes. I take enough strength to strip with a single cast with cp (might replace with tauforged reds in the future) and heal with molt reconstruct. I shieldgate as best as I can without catalyzing shields with augur mods and ability spam. Efficiency is high, range and duration match, stragglers are dead to weapons.
I love the many complicated frames we have, but this recent trend of simple frames like Kullervo and Dagath has been refreshing. As for Dagath, I find her really fun to play. She's good, but not without a healthy amount of quirks that keep her from being overpowered (some of which make her more interesting, like her ult's mechanics).
I really like her and her gameplay loop with initially spreading doom with her 2 then 1 and then nuking all of them with your weapons or her 4 which feels extremely fun to use and her 3 is a welcome damage boost to crit weapons and the safety net is extremely useful
Just saw how holding melee button allows ghoul saw to permanently attack in front of you. sounds like the perfect weapon for reworked hydroid's massive status stacking and ability to shred armor quickly
Idk, the way I have her built her 1 wipes most mobs in one hit. To me until I go into higher steel path stuff, shes fine for all normal star chart stuff. I’m 4 forma in and liking her more and more. Just most enemies are too weak to use her other abilities. A melee and her 1 do work. Her 3 is the only other thing I use, and that’s basically just the start of s mission or activity. I think for people not in steel path or not planning on doing it, she’s more than capable imo.
can try subsuming her 1st ability with fractured blast which increase the energy and health orbs drop chance, synergize very well with her passive and equilibirum to provide her consistent energy. The rest is casting her 2nd for debuff and shieldgate and spam her 4th for nuking
The newest augment Spectral Spirit (on her 3 Grave Spirit) is timed immunity + crit dmg, you can have 27s damage immunity + 104% Crit Dmg only with 244% strength, making it one of the best augment ever. You can think of it as Iron Skin + Roar in a single mod.
I think this might be the second frame who genuinely is better without a helminth…Gauss be the first. Her abilities synergize REALLY nicely and her 2 is one of my favorite abilities. I can see helminth off her 4 for another big buff, but honestly, being able to smack acolytes with a massive aoe ability is really useful and gives the ability enough value to not get rid of it…save my laetum so incarnon ammo for the demos. She self primes viral, which is amazing if you are using her with slash weapons, but kinda mid if using her for a raw damage build as you already typically go viral on the dps weapon, but it will give the first couple shots higher damage (the laetum usually kills in the first couple shots anyway, so might be swapping to a different weapon as my go-to with her). Overall, the more i play Dagath, the more I like her. Initially my reaction was shes good but not great, then, after my first level cap (which was deathless cuz of her 3 being clutch), i immediately changed that to “ok, shes pretty great.” And the more i play with the build and tweak things like archon shards, the more and more I think she might be one of the top frames for disruption level cap, alongside Revenant, Octavia, and Ash. She’s a truly unique weapons platform as she relies on active casting to maintain her damage output, and has every tool you could ask for built in. I don’t yet know what archon shards are ideal, but I’ve been running 2 casting speed and 2 energy max so i dont need flow or natural talent, and slotted 1 tau strength shard to basically make reaching reasonably high strength easier. Really like this frame, even if I don’t like her 3 much, its still quite good
If you have a way to group enemies, marked for death is extremely busted on electric procs, and with her 4. I don't think it will have a big reliability in missions but seeing the high damage synergy with doom was cool. Basically keep her 3 active, group enemies with magus anomaly, cast doom. Spray the first enemy in front of you with something like quanta vandal for electric or a slash weapon like convectrix or tenet flux rifle with viral+slash, Build stacks and use her 1 on the enemy before the doom effect kicks in. Everything dies. The second damage tick from doom seems to deal true damage? It doesnt take very many stacks at all from eletrcicity to take out the whole group. And it will stack with the viral damage if you kept her 1. I just wanted to try it with her 4th. And with how much damage it was doing i didnt even need a viral primer, or armor strip.
There’s actually something weird about her 2 that makes the doom dot tick multiple times more than it’s supposed to…but we’re still trying to figure that one out
I actually never found the horses clunky. The actual issue I had was that it killed enemies too quickly for my leveling weapons to gain any reasonable affinity...
Imagine if we had a corrupted mod that gives longer casting time as its negative, and would be beneficial on some frames like Dagath that has I-frames dependent on casting animation.
As a person who doesn't have energise, I had to find a slight workaround for Dagath and I think I just found the sauciest of them all. Dethcube's energy generator with duplex bond and gas helstrum as it's weapon. Having that with ability spam frames solves a lot of energy problems, and if you have nourish, you can just forget of any other form of energy generation.
I swear somewhere in here you mention casting speed messing with how the initial spawn animation of her 4 strips. I can't seem to find that anymore. I'm wondering if maybe a saw it somewhere else. Do you know if that is the case? I personally love using her 4 as a close up nuke, so I don't want to mess with it's ability to strip.
@@dafall6450If you go to Dagath's dojo room there is a spot where you can hear Grandmother tell this warframes story. Spoiler During the tale, Grandmother claims being approached by the "Headless Warrior" in a Narberus night without an offering, so to avoid her own death, she offers her own name to her. Henceforth, the Warframe gained the name Dagath and Grandmother lost her name.
Her slow on her 1 is very very annoying for sp cascade/zariman content and conjunction and I just hope DE will fix thrax ghosts affected by slow at some point... Other than that, I really had the most fun with her playing her in disruption level caps. Her crazy damage output and comfy shieldgating makes it so much fun. For another thematic build, you can run kullervo's subsume on her 4 to take advantage of her 3 as a melee build. It puts out ridicoulus numbers with a 2->1 combo.
btw u can use precision intensify for 4dps builds now it's pretty easy to slot in although general power strength obviously goes a long way esp if you like red crits
Only problem i run into with dagath in my set up is the fact i use Smeeta Kavat. Energy/health orb generation is difficult to work around. Minor complaint, if not asinine. Just because i work a lot irl and appreciate charm's affinity buff. It actually helps me cap out my weeklies in teshins shop.
WTF! Its like you read my mind with these new frames feeling alike and my exact word to describe them is uninspired. Citrine is a gem though.😂 slept on her but didnt even forma the others. Some got fed to the helminth other I haven't even bother to farm like dagath.
Chain beams, split beams (vermisplicer kind, so torid/boar incarnon, ocucor), melee, aoe weapons to take advantage of doom/viral aoe from her 1 and 2, Plasmor-likes (Nataruk, Lex Incarnon, catchmoon, fulmin, Quellor, bow Incarnons, etc.), basically anything that isn’t a traditional single target bullet hose.
This is exactly why I’ve said years ago it wasn’t necessary for more Warframes or as Rio said Warframes aren’t content. Warframe has always needed more qol changes and actual content. At this point they’re just making Warframes just to justify a revenue stream I guess.
alright thanks for letting me know, I guess if I spam more cast speed shards I can get the 4 cast time down to ~0.33s to match the shield gate duration given from using 2 and 1
She's pretty strong but very boring. However some may be ok with that. I don't think she has anything going for her other then boosting cd and her 4 being able to kill pretty well on sp. You should do a tips and tricks video for the shield gate changes. That would be awesome
When is someone just gonna get the best overall frame , best subsume , best arcane for it ,best weapons etc and make that best overall broken synergized builds and loadouts
That entirely comes down to how fast you kill enemies tagged by your 2. If you mow down groups too fast, there is nothing left to spread your 2 with your 1. It is also faster to cast your 2 than your 1, so if there are only 1 or 2 stragglers that need tagging for some reason, your 2 will tag them faster.
@@AznvasionsI guess it’s just what you’re using then because I probably cast doom no more than 4 times for a 15 minute run and just keep hitting one. Doom was getting spread everywhere. I also was just using melee and only using her 4 for priority targets
@@ExcaliburGT It is entirely possible, since I just went braindead with Gunsen Prime since I wasn't interested in checking out weapon synergies at the time, and since that weapon in particular has full movement freedom while being tied #1 top light spam DPS besides Innodem, and top KPM even above Innodem, and basically oneshots everything with a single swing due to bleeds on SP, then I just didn't really get much a chance to. But yea, 1 spam is very important, and ever more so for utility crowd control in general, and obviously will become prominent if scaling into endurance due to failing to oneshot everything.
I wonder if you could abuse the horses hitting multiple times with the cast animation. There are probably ways to slow the cast animation down, that could create incredibly high dps during the cast animation for a single target (or grouped targets) in front of you.
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*TIMESTAMPS*
0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:27 Follow-ups are Coming & Overview
0:58 What is Dagath?
1:52 How to get Dagath?
2:26 Abyssal Beacon Farm
DAGATH KIT
3:02 Passive
3:24 Ability 01 | Wyrd Scythes & Helminths
4:11 Gloom Discussion
4:46 Ability 01 | Solid Trash Clear & Doom Synergy
5:31 Ability 02 | Doom
6:30 It DOES have funny interactions & requires testing
6:50 Ability 03 | Grave Spirit
7:43 No You Cannot, However...
8:07 Ability 04 | Rakhali's Cavalry
8:38 Horse Hitbox Mechanics
9:36 Horse Range (Duration) Scaling Mechanics
10:15 Duration Ticking Mechanics
DAGATH BUILDS
11:06 Builds Overview & Archon Shards Overview
11:40 Build 01 | Weapon Platform Health Tank
12:47 Build 01 & 2 | Helminth Options & Alternative Modding
13:32 Build 02 | Weapon Platform Shield Gate
14:02 Catalyzing Shields & Farm
14:23 Why Wyrd Scythes is Best for Shield Gating
15:26 Build 03 | Demolyst DPS Health Tank/Shield Gate
16:18 Demolysts Cannot Nullify Doom & Rakhali
16:47 Build 03 | Helminth Discussion
17:14 Build 03 | Damage Scaling vs Demolyst
17:41 Rakhali's Cavalry DPS Builds Overview & Energy Usage
18:26 Build 04 | Rakhali's Cavalry DPS - No Helminth
19:10 Paired Doom & Rakhali Hitbox Breakpoints
20:40 Build 04 | Energy Economy
21:12 Rakhali's Cavalry & Corrosive Projection
21:54 Build 05 | Rakhali's Cavalry DPS - Helminth
22:38 Build 05 | Improved Doom & Rakhali Hitbox
23:09 Conclusion
24:30 Outro
I don't think dagoth feeling samey is necessarily because of her kit itself, rather I think it's because of her visuals and casting animations. visually her 1 and 2 look exactly like kullervo's 2 and 3.
@@Ayzev I disagree the only similarity it shares with kullervos 3 is how its applied but in terms of what it applies its completely different.
Like I feel like this is just a preference Situation triburos mentioned between baruuk and Excalibur
I like them both and that they have a similar mark and kill playstyle (that I find super satisfying) but Kull does it as a melee fram and Dagath does it as a caster frame
That makes sense. As if those two frames are saying they both come from Duviri, and are happy to declare that link. Compare that to how Oberon and Titania are.
They should both state they tap the same source for their abilities, namely the Silver Grove, to parallel their mythical counterparts, but do not.
So far, these are the only builds I've seen that actually consider her kit for what it CAN do and don't just half ass an "iunno, let's throw this on the pot" build.
Big props for taking the time to think through some working builds.
Btw for those that want her prex card go into her dojo room and its above on the right over the first 2 pillars
Also 102 thorns for dagath 80 for dorrclave
So 15 meters per 1 second for her 4
Prex card?
2:52 34 Vainthorns per part for Dagath, 20 Vainthorns per part for Dorrclave. 182 total Vainthorns needed for all the crafting, plus 4 Argon total (2 each for her and the weapon). All other crafting materials are basic
For newer players that join a clan she'll be accessible pretty early on which is nice
you still need to do the mission though, a new player will probably get bored doing that
@@OrangeCreamsiclei got bored doing it even on steel path lol. And that was just for Dagath's parts, i still need to get them for Dorrblade 🙃
@@Mandingy24 I think I might've spent 6 whole hours just doing that mission with a friend on steel path just for dagath. At least I had fun with hydroid
@@OrangeCreamsicle Me and my friend spent like an hour at MOST for Dagoth. How slow were your runs,dude
After testing her for quite some time, I have understood that I like her most without subsumes. I take enough strength to strip with a single cast with cp (might replace with tauforged reds in the future) and heal with molt reconstruct. I shieldgate as best as I can without catalyzing shields with augur mods and ability spam. Efficiency is high, range and duration match, stragglers are dead to weapons.
I love the many complicated frames we have, but this recent trend of simple frames like Kullervo and Dagath has been refreshing.
As for Dagath, I find her really fun to play. She's good, but not without a healthy amount of quirks that keep her from being overpowered (some of which make her more interesting, like her ult's mechanics).
Like your style of Information dump! Straight to it, variations in your builds, timestamps. Gonna go and try some of those dagath builds now 😁👍
Was waiting patiently for your video about this. I absolutely love this frame
The most thorough warframe TH-camr. You actually care to research before putting up information
I really like her and her gameplay loop with initially spreading doom with her 2 then 1 and then nuking all of them with your weapons or her 4 which feels extremely fun to use and her 3 is a welcome damage boost to crit weapons and the safety net is extremely useful
Just saw how holding melee button allows ghoul saw to permanently attack in front of you. sounds like the perfect weapon for reworked hydroid's massive status stacking and ability to shred armor quickly
Funny how her Doom status is almost exactly like the version from, say, Hades. Except for the damage scaling thing.
Idk, the way I have her built her 1 wipes most mobs in one hit. To me until I go into higher steel path stuff, shes fine for all normal star chart stuff. I’m 4 forma in and liking her more and more. Just most enemies are too weak to use her other abilities. A melee and her 1 do work. Her 3 is the only other thing I use, and that’s basically just the start of s mission or activity. I think for people not in steel path or not planning on doing it, she’s more than capable imo.
can try subsuming her 1st ability with fractured blast which increase the energy and health orbs drop chance, synergize very well with her passive and equilibirum to provide her consistent energy. The rest is casting her 2nd for debuff and shieldgate and spam her 4th for nuking
The newest augment Spectral Spirit (on her 3 Grave Spirit) is timed immunity + crit dmg, you can have 27s damage immunity + 104% Crit Dmg only with 244% strength, making it one of the best augment ever. You can think of it as Iron Skin + Roar in a single mod.
I think this might be the second frame who genuinely is better without a helminth…Gauss be the first. Her abilities synergize REALLY nicely and her 2 is one of my favorite abilities. I can see helminth off her 4 for another big buff, but honestly, being able to smack acolytes with a massive aoe ability is really useful and gives the ability enough value to not get rid of it…save my laetum so incarnon ammo for the demos. She self primes viral, which is amazing if you are using her with slash weapons, but kinda mid if using her for a raw damage build as you already typically go viral on the dps weapon, but it will give the first couple shots higher damage (the laetum usually kills in the first couple shots anyway, so might be swapping to a different weapon as my go-to with her). Overall, the more i play Dagath, the more I like her. Initially my reaction was shes good but not great, then, after my first level cap (which was deathless cuz of her 3 being clutch), i immediately changed that to “ok, shes pretty great.” And the more i play with the build and tweak things like archon shards, the more and more I think she might be one of the top frames for disruption level cap, alongside Revenant, Octavia, and Ash. She’s a truly unique weapons platform as she relies on active casting to maintain her damage output, and has every tool you could ask for built in. I don’t yet know what archon shards are ideal, but I’ve been running 2 casting speed and 2 energy max so i dont need flow or natural talent, and slotted 1 tau strength shard to basically make reaching reasonably high strength easier. Really like this frame, even if I don’t like her 3 much, its still quite good
If you have a way to group enemies, marked for death is extremely busted on electric procs, and with her 4.
I don't think it will have a big reliability in missions but seeing the high damage synergy with doom was cool.
Basically keep her 3 active, group enemies with magus anomaly, cast doom. Spray the first enemy in front of you with something like quanta vandal for electric or a slash weapon like convectrix or tenet flux rifle with viral+slash, Build stacks and use her 1 on the enemy before the doom effect kicks in. Everything dies. The second damage tick from doom seems to deal true damage? It doesnt take very many stacks at all from eletrcicity to take out the whole group. And it will stack with the viral damage if you kept her 1. I just wanted to try it with her 4th. And with how much damage it was doing i didnt even need a viral primer, or armor strip.
The good thing about these samey frames is they're not littered with bugs
There’s actually something weird about her 2 that makes the doom dot tick multiple times more than it’s supposed to…but we’re still trying to figure that one out
I actually never found the horses clunky. The actual issue I had was that it killed enemies too quickly for my leveling weapons to gain any reasonable affinity...
Imagine if we had a corrupted mod that gives longer casting time as its negative, and would be beneficial on some frames like Dagath that has I-frames dependent on casting animation.
honestly she's fun and I love it when a frame have abilities that can combo well
Hoping to see an infinite damage loop soon lol.
I feel like kullervo and dagath could be really strong together
To be fair, Kullervo is already broken by himself.
As a person who doesn't have energise, I had to find a slight workaround for Dagath and I think I just found the sauciest of them all. Dethcube's energy generator with duplex bond and gas helstrum as it's weapon. Having that with ability spam frames solves a lot of energy problems, and if you have nourish, you can just forget of any other form of energy generation.
I was waiting for the first TH-camr to make a Doom n Gloom build
I swear somewhere in here you mention casting speed messing with how the initial spawn animation of her 4 strips. I can't seem to find that anymore. I'm wondering if maybe a saw it somewhere else. Do you know if that is the case? I personally love using her 4 as a close up nuke, so I don't want to mess with it's ability to strip.
Its just wild to know that we now know grandmothers name
Huh?
@@dafall6450listen to the story in dagath's dojo room
@@dafall6450If you go to Dagath's dojo room there is a spot where you can hear Grandmother tell this warframes story.
Spoiler
During the tale, Grandmother claims being approached by the "Headless Warrior" in a Narberus night without an offering, so to avoid her own death, she offers her own name to her. Henceforth, the Warframe gained the name Dagath and Grandmother lost her name.
I knoooww, but now I accidentally spoiled myself because I didn't get max at the Entrati.
Her slow on her 1 is very very annoying for sp cascade/zariman content and conjunction and I just hope DE will fix thrax ghosts affected by slow at some point...
Other than that, I really had the most fun with her playing her in disruption level caps. Her crazy damage output and comfy shieldgating makes it so much fun.
For another thematic build, you can run kullervo's subsume on her 4 to take advantage of her 3 as a melee build. It puts out ridicoulus numbers with a 2->1 combo.
btw u can use precision intensify for 4dps builds now it's pretty easy to slot in although general power strength obviously goes a long way esp if you like red crits
great video. us vets appreciate the detail
Only problem i run into with dagath in my set up is the fact i use Smeeta Kavat. Energy/health orb generation is difficult to work around. Minor complaint, if not asinine. Just because i work a lot irl and appreciate charm's affinity buff. It actually helps me cap out my weeklies in teshins shop.
Shes fine as an ability build been playing her steel path caster doing fine...
I love her she looks great with alt helmet and her kit is strong. 😊
Btw from my testing doom seems to double dip viral just like kullervo's links, after more testing she also double dips roar
What about nova 4
Ik kullervo it doesn't
@@noahedenborg4221kullervo does , u need viral on main target and on link otherwise it won't , idk what nova"s 4 would do to affect this
If roar double dips that means faction mods also double dip
Wish I could change the horses to like giant scythes instead. Otherwise, fun frame. 🎉
WTF! Its like you read my mind with these new frames feeling alike and my exact word to describe them is uninspired.
Citrine is a gem though.😂 slept on her but didnt even forma the others. Some got fed to the helminth other I haven't even bother to farm like dagath.
Was waiting on this video lol
Behold, the honse frame
Almost wondered if we could apply full horse damage if the enemies are pulled to the front ala Tidal Wave.
What weapons did you find she worked well with for the weapons platform build? Only melee?
Chain beams, split beams (vermisplicer kind, so torid/boar incarnon, ocucor), melee, aoe weapons to take advantage of doom/viral aoe from her 1 and 2, Plasmor-likes (Nataruk, Lex Incarnon, catchmoon, fulmin, Quellor, bow Incarnons, etc.), basically anything that isn’t a traditional single target bullet hose.
This is exactly why I’ve said years ago it wasn’t necessary for more Warframes or as Rio said Warframes aren’t content. Warframe has always needed more qol changes and actual content. At this point they’re just making Warframes just to justify a revenue stream I guess.
So the no helminth build should be really good if you don't mind casting 1 after the 2, or does this significantly lower the kpm ?
It will lower KPM by about 10 most likely, as well as minimal extra energy usage, but also that you won’t get full gate until you cast her 4.
alright thanks for letting me know, I guess if I spam more cast speed shards I can get the 4 cast time down to ~0.33s to match the shield gate duration given from using 2 and 1
She's pretty strong but very boring. However some may be ok with that. I don't think she has anything going for her other then boosting cd and her 4 being able to kill pretty well on sp. You should do a tips and tricks video for the shield gate changes. That would be awesome
i wonder if theres any shenanigens to have with dagaths/yarelis+ augment helminth
When is someone just gonna get the best overall frame , best subsume , best arcane for it ,best weapons etc and make that best overall broken synergized builds and loadouts
:) Thanks for this.
Im gonna pass on this one for now. Hopefully augments can give her a bit of utility and give her an identity.
HAAAANK
DO NOT abriviate crossive projection
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Lmao true
It took DE 2 years to break the edgy character design. Started with Kullervo and now they can’t stop
Really? I thought it started with Voruna. XD
@rllgr3356 I honestly forgot about voruna existing at all
@@har7649in what universe a headless horsemen/women isn’t edgy?lol
So….my issue is I just can’t figure out how to make her survivable. Because I’m used to having healing or shield regen through wisp or protea
In the beginning footage you’re using your 2 too much, just keep using your one so it keeps spreading.
That entirely comes down to how fast you kill enemies tagged by your 2. If you mow down groups too fast, there is nothing left to spread your 2 with your 1.
It is also faster to cast your 2 than your 1, so if there are only 1 or 2 stragglers that need tagging for some reason, your 2 will tag them faster.
@@AznvasionsI guess it’s just what you’re using then because I probably cast doom no more than 4 times for a 15 minute run and just keep hitting one. Doom was getting spread everywhere. I also was just using melee and only using her 4 for priority targets
@@ExcaliburGT It is entirely possible, since I just went braindead with Gunsen Prime since I wasn't interested in checking out weapon synergies at the time, and since that weapon in particular has full movement freedom while being tied #1 top light spam DPS besides Innodem, and top KPM even above Innodem, and basically oneshots everything with a single swing due to bleeds on SP, then I just didn't really get much a chance to. But yea, 1 spam is very important, and ever more so for utility crowd control in general, and obviously will become prominent if scaling into endurance due to failing to oneshot everything.
Honseframe real
Why are u only good with 3 syndicates?
He doesn’t gaf
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Owner of my clan last login was like 100 days ago... cant build shit ... why DE always design sth may out of control of normal players' reach?.
Just leave, s'why i built my own dojo with 100% research
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Please respond ASAP. Why is damage lower with everything in the game since the update???????
It's really not that great of a frame I'd give it a A+ maybe a S- the problem is it's really not that fun to play
I wonder if you could abuse the horses hitting multiple times with the cast animation. There are probably ways to slow the cast animation down, that could create incredibly high dps during the cast animation for a single target (or grouped targets) in front of you.