Pi400 but BETTER? - Orange Pi 800 First Look
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This is the Orange Pi 800. A competitor to the Raspberry Pi 400 which is an arm single board computer built into a keyboard form factor. These are great general use computers that are perfect for web browsing, email, text documents, and even some light game emulation.
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UPDATE: Since I got this video done, I've been having issues getting their operating system to update. Because of this. If you have any intention of buying this, expect to install Manjaro. ETA Prime has a great follow-up video in which he does this and runs some gaming tests.
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I contacted support on this and they just recommended me things that didn't work.
It's ugly to say "I told you so", but... y'know, I've bought several OPi products and none are still working, whereas the pi 3b keeps on going
If you're talking about Fedora, I'd recommend on continue to use the last kernel on the beta-version of 37. I've got it running on my rpi400 and ran into the same issue when it upgraded to the production release of 37.
What kind of issues with os updates did you have? That thing they ship under the name of "Orange Pi OS" is just a Debian with a custom wallpaper and nothing else. Orange Pi, as a manufacturer, do great and cheap devices. But they obviously don't have resources to develop their own OS.
@@alx8439 it was not related to the os. Either way that's irrelevant, if they can't offer stable software to ship along their hardware, what good is it?
@@TheWilldrick how come the os update is irrelevant to os? What was the issue? Something's shady here
This formfactor + a single Thunderbolt cable + thunderbolt dock or monitor would be a game changer.
My thoughts exactly. Everything is migrating to thunderbolt and usb C. If Orange Pi really wanted an edge on Raspberry, thunderbolt+C would make it a feature leader.
Yes, I have a new laptop with thunderbolt on it. It was not that much more for the option and I think it will be useful? Now for a cheap thunderbolt SBC family. Thanks.
if you do a followup on this system, please clarify that, even though there aren't separate, dedicated numpad keys, this is one of the few 75% with the foresight to insert the numpad into the rh keys, accessible via the function key.
Dude, that Linux Rabbit Hole video 🧨🤯 I want to know why there aren't more forks of Temple OS written and tested on Plan 9.
Thank YOU! You saved me a major headache!
I'm waiting for an affordable RISC-V singleboard computer to come out. Could prove fun to experiment with!
The new Pine64 SBC that's coming out (the $8 one is an SBC the $6 is an MCU) is RISC-V.
It's more underpowered like the Zero, but still
Pine64 expects to release the Star64 next month (November). You can also pre-order the VisionFive 2. Both are based on the same chip.
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Pogo pins have a spring mechanism, like what was used on the original GPi case. In this instance they’re just plain old pins. If you want to be more specific you could refer to them as GPIO pins.
I'm considering getting one of these Orange Pi 800s for my parents to replace the old dell pc they have, since it will most likely perform the same at a significantly lower power draw. Only issue is getting them shipped to South Africa.
Thank you for this video. Do you think this would handle running Octoprint to control two 3D printers and two webcams?
I kind of wish one of the popular custom keyboard makers would create a keeb that also had a Pi in it. No fancy IO but at least one USB-C capable of supporting an external display. An awesome keeb for my desktop as well as a portable computer in one device.
They make cool mechanical keyboard cases for pi400 I just don't remember where
Thanks for your great reviews, Tehhut. We are looking for a mobile Linux computer. We had the PinePhone but gave it up. Too complicated. The Rasperri Pi 4 or a similar device would be great. Did you see how it runs with Ubuntu Desktop? Really great, like on a laptop. It would be highly desirable that Fedora also runs like that. An advantage of Fedora is the support of the official Rpi display, we mentioned it before. It is 80 USD, but it makes the device portable and touchable. If it works sooner or later, then this is our favorite. Reviews about Raspberri Pi 4 with Ubuntu desktop and Fedora and a test witth the official 7 inch display would be great, and we miss these reviews from Techhut.
Vga out and internal storage instead of crappy sd card booting is a winner. There is a monitor coming out for it too, with a kickstand.
Question: Can these boot and operate from a USB flash key or a USB SSD drive? These is what I use on my RPi4 and RPi400 instead of SD cards for increased performance. All the videos and reviews say boot off internal eMMC or SDcard, but no mention of USB device boot.
wow very nice video. Would the Debian OS be closer to what the Raspberry Pi 4 default OS is? Since O-PI has such poor DIY examples, I would like to run some OpenCV examples on both systems to learn more about the Orange Pi capabilities. 😎 Also, any how to information would be very helpful. Thank you.
Now they need to make one that comes with blue switches
What monitor is that in the beginning of the video?
Hello, sir, can not having wifi working when it ran with armbian , do you know any solution for it ?
My question is how to boot from the SD card....With raspberry pi I always just put in a different SD card with a new image, how do you boot from SD if the orange pi has built in OS?
it would be nice to see a full sd card version with an on off switch so that you could plug your cameras storage on the side and then review your piictures. A cover for the pins wouldbe nice and a finger lock to open and close the bottom for quick utility
I'd like to see a vesion of one of these that is a module with the keyboard and a type A docking in just like a lenovo, recharging a battery and maybe some rgb
I like my Orange Pi 4 LTS. However, it gets hot so I have custom heat syncs on it that keeps is nice and cool and fast.
wow amazing
Is it good enough for cad, 3d printer cad and doing real looking animations for home use and HD video work? 🤔
Fits the pi 400 dock?
I'd give my left one for a 8 or better 16gb version of this. I have a 4gb Rpi400 and using an external disk drive it swaps a lot with what I'm doing. I can't leave a browser running. So, would love this but it needs 8gb minimum. Ideally the same processor as the Orange Pi5 and 32gb ram. Happy to spend 500$ on this and dump the RPi400. Calling this the OPi800 ..and not putting 8gb ram in it .. was a crappy move.
Aliexpress as 16gb pi5
Only 26-pin GPIO, not 40.
Sorry I can't count apparently, thanks 😅
Please make a video about salix os.
Would be nice if it would have at least 4 type c ports{one for power use) and 4 usb 4.0 standard ports and 2 hdmi ports and a couple m2 for internal storage expansion.
I noticed you failed to cover accessibility features of this computer. I'm legally blind, and was hoping you'd show that, so I could make an informed decision. Thanks.
Orange Pi have very poor Linux support for their boards. I have one of their older boards where I couldn't get any Linux image with GPU support. So, tl;dr - they are fine if you are looking for something to run a couple of docker containers for cheap, but don't expect to easily get things done compared to more established vendors.
Brandon I really like the linux newsletters, succinct and light toned. Is there anyway I can support you on that??
I'd like for us (if other people are interested) to make your work worthwhile so that you'd continue doing it.
It's not necessary, but those newsletters do have a paid option of around $5 a month. Once we have about 10 members it will basically be self-sufficient. 3 thus far. :)
I enjoy doing them so regardless of if it costs me a little bit every month I'll still keep making them.
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And do you have a patreon or something?
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I'm going to be removing the Patreon soon in favor for this. :)
can you install raspian on it
Could you install RetroPie on this SBC?
You would have to run Retro Arch with Android 12 on it when they get the bugs worked out.
No retropie build so far, but there are Batocera builds for this chip that might work.
Good for a cheap linux/android pc
maybe if it was a keyboard that could split from a module and had a sata laptop hdd and fan dock
It is more compact than the ancient Commodore 64 or the Commodore 128.
The OS seems like a customized version of Xubuntu 22.04LTS on ARM.
It's debian. Almost uncustomized, except for kernel
@@alx8439 Oh cool, it's just that I saw that there is a Debian, Ubuntu, and Manjaro version of the Orange Pi OS.
@@terminallyonline5296 Opi OS is just debian/ubuntu. They didin't even change the wallpaper on manjaro.
Apps, dude, apps? LibreOffice, FileZilla, Audacity, Gparted/gnome-disk-utility, stuff like that. And how well does it run Ubuntu? $21 shipping, no power supply, no mouse- hey, I got my Raspberry Pi 400 for that price!
damn. I too want an "eh" hundred dollar 60 da credit.
I would get one, but only if the software side is improved... No official Android version yet? That's a fail
It's available now and looking really crisp
Woow 😮
@@abbychen5932 thank you,, i already have 1 orange pi, its great product 👍
If they get android working as promised this will be fun to tinker with, without a hassle free android, I dont see anything to pull me away from raspberry
@@abbychen5932 still pending that back end tech support for Android that was promised :)
go test khadaas edge 2
Is your channel like Pizza Hut, because your channel’s name is TechHut. Do you sell tech instead of pizza? If so, where can I go? I need some new RAM.
Here's the real question. Can the Orange Pi 400 emulate Ps2 and/or Gamecube? If it can, and if it can emulate everything else perfectly, then it would be better than the RPi 400.
Short answer is no. The RK3399 is used in several handhelds, and it will do full Dreamcast and some PSP. But the vast majority of Gamecube and PS2 games are too much for it.
The most popular handheld that uses it is the Anbernic RG552. There are lot of reviews here on TH-cam.
4 gig of ram is the only spec I don't really like
Depending on what kind of tasks you're having on your mind. I have been using rk3399 as my main rig for month, it can handle a lot, if you tune linux a bit for more performance
"pogo pins", gpio pins i expect ...
Could you test the performance between debian and devuan?
Uhmm... can they make it look like C64 or Amiga?
Can it play games
Batocera has an RK3399 build for playing emulation. I'm not sure whether it works on this, but it probably will soon if it doesn't. The RK3399 should do Dreamcast, N64, PS1, and everything older than that.
I would wait for Android 12 on the thing to get the bugs worked out then do Retro Arch. So yes it will eventually play games at some point.
Yeah it can, I would like to see if their will be an Official Armbian build for this with Box86 and SoC Over clocking to run older games.
GPIO pins, not POGO pins.
6 cores pi 600
And it has 4gb of ram. Idk where they get the 800 from.
@@TechHut you can have more ram but something like this is limited by cpu performance and core count if we talk about performance so I feel like pi 600 would be more accurate
It would be nice to have this thing with 8gb. 4gb is suitable only for SSH/VNC/RDP
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4Gb RAM only design fail IMHO :( Are these people living on the 2010's?
@@abbychen5932 You should have done an 8Gb version.
no. it's not better.