Anthony Jackson Interview - I won't let myself be outplayed by machines!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2015
- Very interesting 1992 interview of legendary bassist Anthony Jackson talking about how the machinery world is trying to take over.
I'm quoting some of his words in this video:
I'm old fashioned, and very idiolistic about that. My feeling is, I'll outplay anybody using the machine or i'll die. I don't care. The day that the machine outplays me they can plant me in the yard with a corn, and I mean it, I'm very serious. I will not permit myself to be outplayed by someone using the machine. I'm just not gonna permit that. - เพลง
And nobody using a machine has outplayed him.
well
Got that right
is true
He means that from the bottom of his motherfuckin heart
moonjazz5
Lmao!!
One of the greatest bass players breathing air.
Right there with Detroit's Ralph Armstrong.....Jackson's riff on the O'Jays 'For The Love of Money' is timeless, flat pickin' and all.
No question, AJ is one of the greatest of all time.
I love that AJ offers a fair assessment and perspective when discussing the advent of technology in music. In particular at around 1:52 when he says, 'Where you find a superior talent behind the machine, you can get superior performance out of the machine. Often the talent using the machine is inferior, so naturally what comes out of the machine is inferior'. Very telling...
What a gentleman. Also an absolute powerhouse on bass. Machines can't even do what he does.
A confident man is a scary thing, the best to ever do it.. Anthony Jackson = 🐐
AS OF 2017 HE'S STILL NOT OUTPLAYED BY A MACHINE.
As of 2021, he has not been outplayed; by a machine....
As of 2022, he has not been outplayed by a machine...
2023, still not outplayed.....!
"Till this day! "
As of 2024 he still has not been outplayed by a machine
Anthony is dead on man. He is so right.
WELL said, Anthony. And I agree with you that no one can even come close to your talent, on a machine or otherwise.
Abraham Laboriel would outplay him or any ridiculous machine...No question...no doubt about it...!
I wish I could see a bass battle between Anthony Jackson and Abraham Laboriel!
That statement started the dumb asses to compare iconic great players as if it's a sport. Man, TH-cam comments really show how bad of a shape mankind is in, lol...
Rhema DEA they’re both great players, why you gotta do that man?
@@LatinRhemaMusic15 Abe is great, but AJ's on another level
There are many pioneers in music. Anthony pioneered not only his style, and approach, but the modern six string bass guitar. It takes a level of genius to be a legend, and Anthony, is a legend. His body of work, especially with Michel Camillo and Hiromi Uehara is astounding. Machines can play things beyond what Humans can- but in the end, they're machines. I'll listen to Anthony play over anything by a machine- always.
If I could 'thumbs' this video up a thousand times, I would!
The Marlon Brando of bass!
when you find a superior talent behind the machine, you can get superior performances out the machine. this is the truth.
This is deeply motivating. I watch this sometimes when I need a kick of confidence for life in general. Although I've never met him I know Cliff Almond and Cliff did an exemplary and proper sit down with Anth. A must hear interview. I get that he inspires those he teaches and works with to accept, without being egotistical, credit for work done and dues paid and to accept being an expert as anyone in any craft would when they come through the process that makes them one. There's healthy humility in that confidence. Just listen to anything he does. No dysfunctional false modesty. He simply knows where he is at. And we get to listen to and learn from that.
AJ is a true bass warrior!!! #kingofthecontrabass
Man I Love this dude. So Intense and Intelligent
how eloquent. AJ inspires me like no other.
amen Anthony
not a dislike on this video! let's keep it that. don't give up on real music!
Thank you Mr Jackson! When I go to a concert, nothing upsets me more, than to see the machine in lieu of live musicians. Don't get me started on the lip syncers. Much respect to the musicians that love their craft.
Big Bands and an Orchestra... OMG! I'm in heaven
2:29 the biggest balls in music
I love Anthony's counterpoint and extension to Steve Khan's guitar melodies on Guy Lafleur off the Khan's "Eyewitness" album.
Such a bad ass! Love him 😊
Love this clip. Inspiring. Anthony is a genius.
He says this...and we all know that he is goddam right! Anthony Jackson, bass supremo!
Renaissance Man & Bass Icon, Mr Anthony Jackson. A gr8 post. Thx. pcHux.
This is why he is the teacher of teachers.
Reminds me of one of Prince's quotes: "I can't be played, whoever plays me plays himself"
Much respect for Anthony, wish the music industry would respect the music, sadly this era is long gone.
Anthony Jackson - Musician!
He's there on so many of the LPs I purchased. Sentimentally, on some of the very first. For me, musicians win out every time. It's a god given gift to be able to play like he does.
I mean, technically, the bass guitar is a machine too.
Ultimate level of self discipline at your craft... Good interview.
Thanks for this Anthony.
Later we find out that AJ is a robot equipped with self-learning AI, along with Victor Wooten, & Alain Caron.
😅😅😅😅
yes-oh! this man is DANGEROUS
Sad but so very true...It's a life of fights after fights to be true to yourself and keep on playing the instrument you fell in love with. Whatever the cost
I love this interview...."AJ" approaches that Bass like an athlete...The mental approach..."MJ" has said many times, he will not be outplayed on the court...."AJ" said: If I am outplayed, bury me in my Yard...That's some deep shyyt....
No machine ever played AJ! One of the greats...
Anthony is absolutely correct here.Hes saying they have thier uses but bigger than the machine is the person behind it.
Genial Bassist! btw, I discovered his brilliant basslines back in 1975 on the Michael Urbaniak Fusion III album, try listening to 'Metroliner', and with Urbie Green's 'The Fox' try listening to 'Mertensia'. I've always been in awe of Anthony Jackson's brilliance on bass.
Marvellous
and more than 20 years later he's the low end god of my favorite music trio ever (Hiromi trio)
("the machine are here" lol)
What a thing to watch/hear before you practice!😁
True words by Anthony Jackson. Legendary bass player.
he just imspired me again
He is THAT dude!!!
spoken like a BOSS!!!
I play bass (sometimes) I started off playing guitar. to play bass you have to think bass. bass can play a lot in music, or minimum notes. I was jamming with some friends once, playing bass. the drummer at end of our session started drumming, and for some reason I joined in playing 1 note (C). I was on the 1, and could not think of anything to add to that note. but everybody else joined in and we were jamming! Bass is Cool!
When Anthony Jackson was a little baby
Sitting on his daddy's knee
He picked up a bass
In his little right hand
Said computers gonna be the death of me
Lord Lord
Computers gonna be the death of me
a hymnal
Anthony Jackson is the Bass GOAT!!!
Does anyone know where can i find the full interview ?
Aint nobody does it better 👑 🎸
Anthony Jackson on DJs with a skill issue. Love it.
This man is such an inspiration, considering machines are now "writing" music- google "Aiva"
am I the only one getting goosebumps???
Times have changed
Good advice .
The Man, the Master.
Woooww, love that,
And he never has been.
What a musician.
Salute!!! AJ is the best player ever.
❤️❤️❤️
The worst thing about electronic music is although they have the tools to create unplayable complex music, they use it to make the most effortless crap possible
mrmogensen Not all of it. For example...th-cam.com/video/CPokRW4nlAc/w-d-xo.html
electronic music hit its peak in the 70s, where it was amazing, just like today there isn't much complex analog music, but theres still some good electronic music out there.
*cough* Aphex Twin *cough* Squarepusher *cough* Amon tobin *cough* the Flashbulb *cough* μ-Ziq *cough* Aleksi Perälä *cough* Luke Vibert *cough*... Jesus, must have caught the fl...*cough* *cough* Boards of Canada *cough* Autechre *cough* Rolando Simmons *cough*...
There are great talents in both worlds. This is exactly what people said about rockmusicians back in the day, gt over it. :)
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@@reubensolly2237 Sup. Where can I find like a whole album of some music like this? For electric stuff, it's pretty good. Lots of sounds happening, kept me interested.
Legend.
I gotta say though, Stevie Wonder's synthbass parts are pretty great.
That’s not a computer tho. He still played them manually and they have feel and soul
He's still outplaying every machine 😂
Well said, Sir....
We should ask him the question again today...
Why? The answer still hasn't changed. Can a machine respond to a drummer in real time in a way that's meaningful and musical? Maybe with AI this will change, but I doubt we'll see something like that in the near future
@@hugo2-jz4un actually, the more you give data to a machine, the more it can imitate human behaviour. Meaning, if you feed the machine with all the transcripts of Anthony Jackson of all those past years, the machine will know exactly how to respond to any musical pattern. For a given series of chords, it will know all possible combinations of improvised melody that would fit. Somehow, music can be compared to math. No Human can beat the machines in terms of math. Human play with their heart, but in the end this is a matter of calculation. Machine can already transcript music in seconds just by hearing. The day they will pay some musician to explain the machines the rules of music and improvisation, this will be the end of human domination in music. Some people think that machines cannot create, as they just copy what exist. But this exactly what human people do nowadays in all forms of art (music, movies, books). They just recreate what existed years ago with variations. Machines are perfectly able to do that, copying and creating variations while mixing styles.
@@hugo2-jz4un the only good thing is that human can learn music and progress faster than ever thanks to all those tools
@@bambouclat6580 I agree that all those things are possible in theory and that inevitably a program like that will come up, but I have yet to see something do all the things you describe in a single package. Even with all that in mind an AI still can't come up with anything unique. It may be able to mix styles like you said, but that's not what great musicians like Anthony Jackson does. The AI cannot distinguish between good and bad music. You feed it with shit and it will play shit. On the other hand, a human can train itself just from the intuition rooted in our genetics
@@hugo2-jz4un The AI will distinguish what is bad or good according to the data you give it. If Anthony tell it, this melody is good with that chord, this melody awful with that chord, this melody sounds with that chord as it add distorsion, etc, in the end, the AI can understand everything. I have been trained to music when younger, so I know how it works. I started learning programming a few months ago, and I see exactly how both can mix. Everything is possible in programmation, the reliability of the program just depends on WHO feeds the programm. I see it everyday as I currently feed AI for my own job. I am contributing to the end of my profession as I teach everyday the machines how to perform better. I have seen this coming since 10 years, and now I can swear to you that I am about to be useless in my profession. This can happens for anything than man can do I am afraid. Just seach for "Artificial Intelligence pianist plays: John Coltrane - Giant Steps 1960 (Hard Bop Jazz Piano)" in TH-cam. All has been made by AI within seconds (visual, transcript and playing)
Garry Kasparov didn't think machines would be better than humans at chess. He was wrong. The same had been said of the game of Go, which can't be won by pure processing power alone. The AlphaGo program proved them wrong. I'm certain Jackson is passionate and his belief heartfelt: that doesn't mean he isn't wrong. I believe computers will create music and even improvise in a way that will be indistinguishable from humans. Because the quality of music is subjective, there will always people that insist it isn't as "good", but computers will get so sophisticated that even experts won't be able to tell if music is from a human or computer. And, happy thought, a computer will be able to replace 99% of the people commenting here, including me, at their profession. I suggest we spend preparing for this instead of patting ourselves on the back for having qualities that machines won't replicate.
A computer learn or needs rules, the chess need creativity but they have defined rules. Can a machine have creativity, I mean also not following rules and input? You know, the history of music is full of innovation (also in harmony) by not following rules
Did you hear him on Eric Weinstein’s podcast? I highly recommend it if you haven’t heard it.
A machine will never have human conciousness thus never able to spontaneously "create" music out of nowhere like humans do. Also, your examples are about games, which have rules, music has no rules.
@@frankpetra Music absolutely has rules. Music has many sets of rules from different traditions developed over millennia, as well as looser rules as simple as tension and release or static and variation. Music is made of choices, not random magic. A machine can absolutely create music and be programmed to intentionally break musical rules. Whether or not it moves a human is a more important consideration.
That being said being outplayed technically by a machine is inevitable. At some point we all become irrelevant with generative AI coming online and near lifelike synthesizers. He is an absolute master for certain and a creator like Jaco and Victor. Without these guys the instrument and music wouldn’t progress.
That will never happen even after we are long gone
I want to hear his thoughts on AI generated music
He's so intense
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And no one has out played him!!
hear hear!
This is very serious 😬
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Never Anthony!
Even and especially in 2015 I say that this video needs to shown when and wherever possible
Anthony hasnt been outplayed by man or machine
Anthony Jackson was a little bity boy
He sat upon his daddys knee
He pointed his finger at that midi controller
Said these computer gonna be the death of me, lawd, lawd these computers gonna be the death of me
Who talks like that? He speaks perfectly crafted sentences as of it were music.
B R A V O
You think this is a game? This is real life. Let me convey the seriousness of the situation. lol
And they didn't.
Hes a monster of the bass, but his solo's are not pleasing to the ear. His virtuosity exceeds his good taste for creating them and I find that none of them are as good as he actually is...
Anthony Jackson is correct. I had a career in IT for almost 40 years. It was called data processing then, and IBM was king. Back then most companies wrote, tested and implemented their own applications. If they did not get it right, the company could go out of business. The only thing being purchased was hardware, programming tool (editors, compilers, link editors) and database applications. Over the years the bottom line became more important than quality. Companies don't rigorously test their applications anymore. That is why you get them very cheap or free. The public test them. Yes the new applications are very innovative, but the quality is very poor. Artificial Intelligence is a myth. You cannot program intuition, and creativity. Even if you could, companies would not pay that for that kind of quality.
I would have also thought 40 years experience would qualify you to say something, but I think the accumulated years of being jaded negates it. Did you also think Kennedy was full of it when he announced we would go to the moon? If computer scientists find enough military applications for algorithms that imitate human creativity, and that certainly applies to Russia and China as much as the US military, we will get it. As far as AI being a myth- here's an analogy: when scientists discovered dinosaurs weren't reptiles, that didn't mean they thought dinosaurs didn't exist, just that dinosaurs had been miscategorized. Just because many things are mislabelled "Artificial Intelligence" now, doesn't mean there won't be software that does things that today we might label "AI". In this case musical composition. There were attitudes like yours that predicted computers would never beat humans in chess, and after that, computers would not have the "creativity" to beat humans in Go. At least Jackson has the excuse that he is not a computer scientist. Did you work on Microsoft's "Bob", by any chance?
@@squirlmy I was nine years old when JFK made his famous speech in 1961. I believed anything was possible, and still do. But I am also a realist, or jaded if you prefer. In this world the bottom line comes first (read your own comment about military apps). If is doesn't produce a profit in the short term forget about it. Einstein defined Intelligence as creativity. We still don't know how the physical brain, and the mind work to make decisions or create. So how can we effectively write algorithms that imitate the creative process? There is a lot of marketing hype about AI to continue having money invested, but as a world we have not done the research to make it a reality. The chess software is a bad analogy. Programming a computer to select a predetermined action to take based on a set of finite criteria is based on a knowledge database, not creativity. Much maligned Microsoft "Bob". No I didn't work on it but Melinda Gates may be the real creative genius in the family. Although "Bob" only lasted a year, that concept has made and continues to make Microsoft billions of dollars through sales of its O/S and Office suite.
You'd be a brave man to try and replace AJ with a computerised bass track. Lol
I have nothing against computer music - as long as only computers listen to it.
sad to think that in 100 years time the idea of playing an instrument with your hands and/or breath will be obsolete
theycallmejpj You really expect that a large number of humans - if there is such a thing - are actually going to have electricity? Why?
stubhead population of humans has only ever increased. usage of energy has only ever increased. no mystery.
+theycallmejpj Glad i'll be dead by then
I think instruments will remain relevant for a long time, possibly longer than that, for performing improvised music. It's the only way. Until we figure out a way to transcode thoughts of music to actual sound, in real-time.
he's already playing an electric bass! and not an acoustic instrument. We may leave music playing to humans, just to have anything to do at all!
The interviewer is horrible.
Awkward but I enjoyed it 😂 I’m not interviewing anyone in English let alone German so who am I to judge