The Longest Range EV I've Tested! Mercedes EQS 450+ (107.8kWh) 70-MPH Highway Range Test
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- Kyle is in Colorado with a 2022 Mercedes EQS 450+ and conducts our usual 70-mph highway range test. The vehicle is equipped with 21" wheels and winter tires which makes the results even more impressive. Join Kyle for the full test of this luxury electric sedan!
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I truly appreciate these range tests!
I have all season tires in CA. I could do about 350 miles out of my 400 mile road trip from a 100% charge at a cruising speed of around 80mph. Only needed one 20 minute charging stop which is perfect. I swear, you can feel it cut through the air when you’re going against a headwind.
That sounds very positive. I am hoping to get 280 miles out of it at an av of 70. Actually means 80-85 cruising.
@@nigelwilliams8792 you're gonna get close to 380. But looks of it are off not worth the 100k
@@shaheenshad5012 ill settle for 380 miles range although i think its going to be more like 330 at 20 deg. I will see.
Love the video Kyle , can’t resist myself so I went to bought a EQS 450+ after watch your video!!! I am
Also having a hard time trying to kill the range on the EQS, seems like battery drop a lot slower than my 2020 Tesla MS. You are my go to guy when it comes to research EV, keep up the great work. I live in Timnath, CO not very far from you so I know where you do the range test, Colorado does offer the best range test because of the weather condition lately.
Thank you. These reviews are fantastic.
I like that car but I have an Ioniq5 budget. Its great to see diversity of vehicles hitting the market covering more and more segments providing access to more buyers.
No reason to feel shortchanged, the Ionic seems to be a great vehicle!
I'm a messenger from the future. These cars depreciated like crazy and you can get a 450+ for around $60k depending on location. In a few more years, if it depreciates more, I'll trade in my Tesla Model 3
It was great dropping in and out of the live feed yesterday, especially when you crossed 300 miles.
Thank you, nice reviews 👏🏻👏🏻🥳
Luxury EV that actually seems luxurious
@shinybaldy Does Mercedes make any non-luxury vehicles?
@@gwarlow techically yes, the a and b class plus obviously the utility vehicles. Anything above is made for luxury
@@gwarlow a lot of them are not luxury vehicles. Below S class are premium but not luxury.
@CA Driver the e-class have the same features as s class had a few years ago. So you could say that even e-class is almost luxurious.
Love that car, very nice video, thankss and keep the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome review of this electric vehicle!
Great looking ride - would take over a plaid.
That interior is stunning
Its rwd and slower than the ioniq5.
@jpscharged ionic also has better charge speed. MB really dropped the ball, even canceling ing it now
That heads up display off the windshield should be the new standard for all cars… that’s so convenient
Thanks for your range test. Impressive. I am lucky enough to have one on order.Can you tell me what the total elevation gain was over the test?
thank you for this, bit out of our price range, and i really don't like the styling, but nice to see bigger and bigger ranges appearing
I mean… there’s always the eqe as well
Waiting for the 70 MPH test of the BMW iX 50 xDrive !!! Superb test Kyle !!
Count on 300 or less... Despite the even bigger battery, that brickier shape is not conducive to high numbers on the highway.
Phantastic car. But man - the ccs charge port cover... Come on Mercedes.
That far with Blizzaks is really impressive
Love this car. Awaiting the EQE.
This one is nice. I saw a video of it in Germany it was a self driving car. I think it was navigating on the highway. It was very nice.
Yup, that’s an optional extra in Germany
Imagine having Mercedes luxury and not having to worry about paying for premium gas.
137 k tho... with worse tech, performance and features.
but credit for the range and superior quality tho there is no need to compare these great ev's but don't kid yourself if it wasn't for tesla the eqs wouldn't have existed for decades.
The outside looks simple af tho, wouldn’t buy bc outside looks bad imo
Imagine in the future paying for premium...electricity😳
yea but you have to pay 140k + for the vehicle.
Imagine getting a premium luxury car for 70k and calculate how many years would it take to spend the remaining 70k on the gas or you could invest to get more money back... you know...
@@Unknown-zs9qv 225000 $ here
does the regen thing , degrades li ion batteries over time ?
like, while we use phones while its charging it weakens the battery ? similar to that ?
That’s a great looking Honda Civic
Wish I had the income to get one of those bad boys. They are, to ME the finest most luxurious EV out there within the $130k range. So comfortable and what a display
Only 60k now 1 year later
This is among the best EV range test I've ever seen.
When it's time to buy a new battery you'll be paying 50 Grand you can keep it
@@dobermanguy9437 Prices of batteries have been dropping. By the time I'll need a new battery they'll be cheaper. Plus I'll get a new car anyway.
@@TChalla007 its not about getting a new car. Its about whether you can sell the old one at all. Who's going to buy a car that need a new battery?
@@vinlondon8904 then lease. You buy used, lease new.
It's about 9 hours from my area in ohio to gettysburg.
Approximately 450 miles.
That's a lot of driving!
344 miles is pretty good. Have you had a chance to test a new-ish model S (405 EPA range) ?
According to thier podcast they have not been able to find a new dual motor Model S to test yet.
Given Tesla’s tendency to severely overestimate their range, and the fact that the range tests drive to 0% and not completely dead, I would expect the model S to do about the same.
@@ouch1011 But this car was tested with 21" Winter tires vs 19" Summer tires for the model S. I think the S will do slightly worse than the EQS
@@ouch1011 It's not Tesla that decides how range is tested, nor Mercedes.
@@MattCasters Yes it is Tesla and Mercedes that decides what testing standard to use.
Wait the EQS 450 + has hyper screen option in the US ?
That Mercedes interior is lovely. Imaging a Tesla with that kind of fit and finish?
Can't wait to see the reviews of Lightyear.... 1,000 touted miles on one charge.
Great test. I find it amusing though that people believe sub 400 miles is great range. My diesel BMW will get between 750 and 800 miles from a tank at these speeds. There is nothing to convince me to get into debt to buy an EV. Not when anything with reasonable range costs north of $100k.
The dash looks like the EQS 580, not the 450+. Can someone correct or explain?
When the world runs out of gas and everybody switches to electric vehicles..."they" will just raise the price of electricity lol. We truly wont be free until we can charge off the sun, alone lol.
The build a solar array. It’s cheaper than buying the car first.
...When we stop the breathing of those that gouge us...We will breathe easier...Narmer 21th century empath
Some of us have solar on our roofs bud
@@coronanick9293 Nice !!! I’m sure a lot of people do. And I’ve been hearing of a few car manufacturers are making better / newer solar cars, cool ! I’m all for it. I was just generally speaking / noting, that we’re not all there yet lol. The gas to electric craze alone is one thing, the electric to solar, will be another. In due time !
$40K in solar and $30k in a 100kwh power wall. 500 mile ranges at 70mph and charging for free at Hotels (running on solar). This is basically every city in the southwest now but the sorter ranges require some supercharging.
You might have gotten another 6 miles had you omitted the Doritos. Nice review.
ODD name for a charger station but hey it gets the people going
I enjoyed the review of the car and filming. Great job.
I bought a used 2010 I-Miev a number of years ago from a Mitsubishi dealer 47 miles away. Dealer told me that mixed city/freeway use it could go about 60 miles still. Figuring that was a high number and I had to take freeway all the way home (plus no recharge points in those days) I would just make it if I kept to 55mph or less. Sure enough I made it with 5 miles to spare as I took my Dad on a very short trip and got the flashing your about to run out symbol. So my point is, what good are range test videos for EVs anymore? The distance they go is ridiculous far and driving that far to prove it seems a little pointless? But please keep making videos, you do an excellent job, just not sure if range tests are useful anymore.
Because some people drive for longer and you lose a different amount of range driving on the highway for each car because of the designs and efficiency. Plus, not everywhere has an abundance of chargers. Good for you that it works well, but this is very good for people cross-shopping and who want the longest range/greatest efficiency. I mean, you realize Car and Driver does the same thing with ICE cars to measure MPG, right?
@@johnbuscher actually no I didn't know car and driver did that I assume that they simply use whatever they were given by the manufacturer. Being as every ride has so many variables in it from road conditions traffic style of driving weather ice or battery the drive distance is always going to be variable. Ballpark figures best you can ever do and I suppose somebody's got to test it but it seems a little pointless
I Thompsons it would look better with the faux grill wrapped to match the body. Still a great looking car imo
How much can the EQS take from Electrify America?
That turn indicator stalk bounce back clank is so cheap feeling. Rest looks great.
You sir are the reason for the current mess in my underpants.
They have 3 or 4 sound themes. I wonder if you can change that
I remember a few years back California had a blackout Tesla's were lined up for many many miles
Everyone hates the design haha. Aerodynamics are underrated!
I wonder if Tesla will make a model S plush, for the lux set. Seems many want a softer experience. Especially the older people positioned to afford them.
The charging station is named what??
How is that charger called "Kum & Go" 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
That's the name of the gas station convenience store.
The 315wh/mi is impressive for this type of vehicle at those speeds.
It's still a lot more than what Bjorn achieved in his test, which was ~15kwh/100km, i.e. 700 km range.
this car is so cool :)
eqs has proven to be a nightmare for accessory companies who make screen protection tampered glasses. lol
Piece of high tech
Did you say it could not take more than 90kw max charging??
Why would anyone say this? Watch Teslabjorn's vid for charging speeds. Goes over 200 kW
Dream car.
Much more classy than the Plaid.
340 at 70 mph with winter tires. Impressive indeed. Were you running in eco or comfort?
He was running in eco
@@kenbrand8972 Yep, I listened to the beginning of the vid after I posted.
@@Wised1000 yes but here is one thing he never mentioned,and that was when you supercharge the battery you should never charge to 100%,only to eighty percent and maybe ninety at home
@@kenbrand8972 Just for testing purposes. Never, is as big word, routinely is more appropriate. If you are going to drive far 100% charge is perfectly fine. You should also not routinely drive it to zero SOC. The battery's happy place is 20 to 80. In addition , it also "prefers" AC rather than DC. Again these are simply recommendations to maximize battery life and minimize degradation. This is true of any Li battery.
@@Wised1000 got it thanks
My new EQS580 claims 413 mi range at 90% SoC. Simple algebra concludes my range is about 459 mi at 100%. That’s in comfort, not economy mode, and with maximum regen (recuperation). Could that be true if I continue driving at moderate speeds from 40 - 70 mph and no Jack rabbit launches? Does the EQS have greater range than Tesla model S? This is very surprising because EPA range is near 348.
try that in 30 degree temps and see how far you go----150 miles top
@@chadhaire1711 Nope, over 350.
@@johnpoldo8817 There is no way you are getting 350 miles in temps less than 35 degrees..total bullcrap...
Imagine what you would have gotten without the blizzaks???
Does the mercedes-benz eqs have shades for the sun roof?
Yes
with all season tires + smaller wheels, i can see it goes over 420 miles / charge. Not lucid air range yet though, i just don't see its happening
and nobody is even close to aptera range yet
@@KingFinnch To be fair, that’s an outlandish design, and they still don’t have a production vehicle ready to show it’s actual range.
@@johnbuscher they do have a production vehicle, they're just tooling the factories rn
We also have that battery in Europe.
19" aero summer wheels will give 400 miles I assume.
The number of times these guys say "state of charge" is too damn high! 🤣
I myself just say "percent." But I'm a simple man.
Having a bit of deja Vu
Feels like deja vu
I’ll take one for $47k otherwise I can’t afford to sell an arm and a leg because I need all my limbs. Ha!
Pleas redo the test in summer with smaller tires. Would be very interesting to see what's possible when everything is optimal!
I’ve been getting 440-460 with the summer tires and aero-wheels on my 450+
tell me about gearbox or pedal shift plz
@@iannealcole i wasn't joking i was asking ,tnx for information
what do you do if you run out of power completely?
what do you do if you run out of gas completely? why is this so hard for some to figure out?
Do you have an estimate if the average speed was 60mph?
Closest thing - using the Inverse Square Law, you can see how much extra energy was used to push air out of the front of the car at 70mph compared to 60mph (as the front of the car is a constant shape that air has to flow over, it's like pushing a shape with a flat 2D face through the wind).
70 squared is 4900.
60 squared is 3600.
4900 / 3600 = 1.361111...
It takes just over 36% more power to push through the air at 70mph than 60mph.
HOWEVER - air resistance is not the only force. There's the force needed to move the constant mass of the vehicle, and the force to keep accelerating until it reaches its speed. That's the same amount for both masses when switching from rest to in motion (Newton's First Law) but the force to keep accelerating to 70 is more than to 60, because force equals mass times acceleration (Newton's Second Law - and there's more acceleration to get up to 70 than to 60).
But yes: doing 60 instead of 70 would have produced better mileage, but not exceeding 36.11111% more miles on the same road.
Impressive car, but I wonder if it will still be on the road in 20 years. Im thinking the battery degradation will total it, in that time. With the cost to replace the battery.
I have a feeling people buying this car wont keep it for that long. If you can afford a 150k car willy nilly today you can definetely afford another 150k car in 5 years or so.
You could replace the battery with a solid state pack in 10 years and have more range than new at 20 years age. This is still just beta EV tech for Mercedes. They already are beating the model S. Efficiency is the same but 107.8kwh usable vs 93kwh usable on the model S. There is your range difference. Benz fit and finish is superb but in 10 years these inital ev's will be a joke
Does it have a heat pump?
No.
Yes it does well at least my 580 does and web site says all eqs have a heat pump
No heat pump, check the video with MB chief engineer.
That woman with the Prius 😆
Think my mS-LR with 19” all season wheels has greater range at constant 70 mph. But wife has driven Benz for over 25 years, so we plan to get an EQE when announced. You can’t beat Mercedes luxury.
Its max charging is horrible, how long did it take you to get to 80,90 and 100%.
These plus efficiency are more important than just range IMHO.
I would rather have 260 miles of range and be able to charge to 250kw!!
You are aware the charger is slow, not the car?
It would be cool if you could implement metric "translations" for your viewers in Europe, like consumption (kwh/100km), range (kilometres) and temperatures (°C).
Totally!
The math is easy. Recognize that you are in a smaller market.
Still not long enough distance for me. I need a minimum of 450 miles/charge at Highway speeds. Battery tech just isn’t quite there yet.
How much $ to charge from zero to full ?
10$
@@clashingarena6934 ,what ? No way it cannt be isn’t it 31c a kWh ?
can we get a road trip with this car?☺
Fantastic car and price I think the build quality on this car is better than the Tesla model S
My brother's a Master Mechanic he's been working on cars for 35 years he tells me Mercedes are not the most reliable cars and are very expensive to repair 100 grand for an electric car you got to be kidding me even if I could afford it I would never buy this car
You would be mad to not take one of these over a Tesla Model S.
for the price of it it should be doing those sort of miles
"Kum and Go" 💀
That's what they should all do.
..........im........im googling that company,kum & go(pleeeease let it like a hooters)
For $200k I can build a house.
Will buy it when the EPA range crosses 1000 kms
I drive a 450+ here in Dallas with the “wind spec” as I call it.. aero star wheels and range-optimized summer tires.. match that with preconditioning and smart use of the adjustable recuperation and I’ve been averaging 450-460 miles at 100%!!
I'm thinking of lease or purchase...what did you do? I live in Los Angeles and it's hard to believe that you get that distance...when do you get less...
18" summer tires and a flat California freeway------Lucid Air range?
Nope they tested in the same highway as when they tested the lucid air
I think in the future, people will really cringe at the novelty appearance design, of most electric cars now. Like when the 80's tried to make everything futuristic.
So you’re telling me you can go from Chicago to Detroit in one charge
Bathroom breaks?
one of the most important bit of info is how long it takes to get full charge or half charge so you can be on your way. i don't think you mentioning that. i think that would be more important to viewers than what you are eating.
We’ll have a full video on the charging properties with this car!
Nice, but for that price I would go with the Lucid Air.
Dude the 500 mile Lucid is much more expensive than this one ..
@@vasilispoyiatzeas9137 2022 Mercedes EQS 450 base price starts at $102, 310. Lucid Pure starts at $77,400 with more range. Either way, my pick is Lucid over Benz anyway.
@@andyp.4205 Good luck with that 😄
44 miles longer than the '21 Model S is impressive, but still 156 miles less than the amazing Lucid Air.
We are honestly at a point, at least at the top end of the market, where 'range anxiety' is no longer a thing.
If you can afford this car, you fly anytime you need to go far.
@@majorchungus Yep. When my buddy was getting married in Virginia, I debated flying or driving (8 hours). We decided to drive, but left our new Edge home and rented a car instead. I don't want to be that far from home if something happened to our car, even cutting a tire or getting into a fender bender.. With a rental, I just call the rental company and they drop another car where ever we are if there's a problem.
@Bill Kerr There were 125 Lucid Air deliveries in 2021. For comparison, Tesla delivered over 300,000 (all models) this past quarter (2022 Q1). Lucid have a long road ahead of them. I hope they succeed as this will help accelerate EV sales in general. :-)
@@gwarlow Exactly. This is all new ground - even legacy automakers are on the steep side of the learning curve. It took Tesla almost 10 years to deliver a lot of cars. Ten years from now, we will be reminiscing about having to drive our cars to a fueling station instead of fueling at home.
really good interior and technology, but the look is just....
I’m gonna go ahead and say that nearly 350 miles of range without stopping is plenty. That’s 5 continuous hours of driving at 70mph. I’d be ready for a break by that time for sure.
That said, I was hoping for better efficiency given the shape of the car and the fact that it is only RWD. Tesla achieves better efficiency than this without making their cars look like a blob. Better efficiency would mean that they could use a smaller battery and still get the same range.
Then go buy a tesla
@@jeffsteyn7174 testla uses cheap light material for extra range
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Besides, these aren't comparable cars. The EQS is longer, taller, heavier and truly luxurious inside..
@@jeffsteyn7174 Beats the Model S by almost 30 miles
@@jeffsteyn7174 why would I choose a tesla? I can’t even floor the base version of the eqs without reaching and surpassing the speed limit in cities.
How is this impressive?
It’s about 130 miles less than Lucid Air and charges at 1/2 of the speed?
No and no. We have no idea how far a Lucid air would go on snow tires. Having a 800v system does not mean 50% faster. 800V is a peak power figure (which cannot be achieved at any existing charger FYI). The fact is, no car can charge from 10 to 80 any faster than EQS. The reason is that although the EQS has a lower peak charge it can bulk charge at the same or faster avg charging rate as any other 800V system. Its all about the curve. The peak is a useless statistic when bulk charging. The EQS can provide 180 miles or so in 15 minutes.
@@Wised1000
Wrong
Every one know 800V is peak power- the problem is that thru out the charge curve it can run higher voltage.
400V at least on model 3 get your about 220 kw on newest Tesla super charging infrastructure
Lucid has demonstrated and confirmed 300Kw charge power.
EQS has only shown getting up to 207kw about
That is why you are wrong. EQS doesn’t have the fastest charging. In fact it does no better than what model 3 can do.
Stop spreading rumors
@@Wised1000
Why lie?
When does 202-207 is better than 300-302 (as tested). Heck lucid is actually bounded by the charging infrastructure
Got it?
@@Wised1000
Btw every single test so far lucid has consistently beat EQS range by over 50-80 miles
It doesn’t hurt to google.
Plus EQS is much much slower than air. Slower car, worth charge power, worse range.
Are you eating hot dogs in that expensive car?!?
Save the turtles drive a Mercedes EQS
I saw this car in person, it looks nicer person but still is not a good looking car for the price.
Not even close to the Lucid Air. And the Lucid actually looks attractive
Lucid air has crappy tech, quality will forever be compromised
The audacity for you to compare a ludicrous prototype company with a legacy global automaker, who practically under calculates their own claimed range
Not impressed for the price looka a good leasing car though.
I wish you set the speed using a separate device speedometer. Some cars drive slower than shown
He always calibrates to GPS speed. He mentioned it in the video as well.
Side window parts looks like audi A6 , interior is realy overdone , tech. Ok , but will see during cold winter .
Lol.. so funny these hybrid drivers dont know they can't charge at these fast chargers... I saw a Chevy Volt owner once pull into an EVgo station and looked puzzled about how to charge and within a few minutes, gave up and drove away. Lol.