It's more alarming how few people are interested in watching this important vídeo and how low the subscription numbers are. Everyone should be watching these! Thank you for all the info.
Not sure of the circumstances but an EV in a garage caught fire overnight here in Perth (Applecross), completely destroying the garage and part of the home.
Very interesting. I noticed while doing some research, that your website states only 349 ev fires globally. However china claims 640 fires just in the first quarter of this 2022, while the UK have recorded 239 ev fires this financial year, and 130 the year before. (And not sure how accurate the 19,000 exploding in china is either so we will just leave that out) So just wondering where you are getting your data from, because from that it appears different to what I've read thus far. Also curious to know the source of fires on ice hybrid to ev, comparing the 3 ignition sources would paint a better picture in terms of relativity.
it depends on who you want to belive they say theres only been 4 EV fires in Australia where as i have seen at least 6 if not more on the news with video footage
@@ruffnut743 the issue I have is that all the pro ev people love their stats and use them widely. And for me that just doesn't sit right knowing that there have been so many fires just from the battery alone. Serpenza did an exposed just how many are catching fire, but this group seem to just don't even acknowledge any of it. Said they came back from a study over seas, and UK alone had so many fires and it's not even on their radar, not even a mention. I thought I would have got a response, but now it seems like I now know the answer. And like you I've seen a lot more than 4 fires, just news alone.
EV can include electric assist bicycles and e-scooters. These are a bit of a "wild west" at present. In the UK there are a lot more fires in these "personal transportation" systems than in Electric cars (BEV/PHEV).
Good coverage. Yes EV battery fires are not common but governments and bureaucrats need to be better informed and have policies in place to protect first responders, vehicle/house occupants and citizens who are close by. We do not want a recurrence of the permanent incapacity of the two Victorian firefighters.
Exactly what we're working on providing. Please note, we looked into the claim of two firefighters being incapacitated due to an EV battery fire, including emailing the union official who made the statement. We have been unable to verify this claim & suggest it has been confused with an incident at a battery recycling plant where an explosion caused a firefighter to lose footing on a ladder platform & fall. It's under-researched claims like these that are causing so much fear, uncertainty & doubt in the emergency community.
We really need the BCA and Australian Standards to be urgently updated to provide clarity for construction and buildings. This very remote risk is being totally overmanaged by insurers, strata managers, risk managers etc
Yeah, plenty of people will be concerned & it should be sorted? Especially people that don't take the time to actually find out what the real chances are? It is 20 times more likely that a Petrol/ Diesel engine will catch fire, maybe we should focus more on keeping backup generators out of buildings? I continue to drive a diesel vehicle & assess the risk every day & carry fire extinguishers? The whole EV fire beat up reminds me of a story about Henry Penny & the sky falling down?
You must be talking about the recent mass injection of the population with an untested substance to prevent a disease that came from a bat cave in a very old country that is known for lax safety standards.
if you're so scared of batteries, throw away your phone, smart watch and laptop. Go cry about it. Funny how anti ev nuts only care about EV cars and not their daily life that are powered by batteries
@@crxdelsolsir, most "ICE" car fires are caused by .............. an electrical fault. Think about how certain nefarious groups use mobile phones to cause a "rapid unscheduled dismantling" of motor vehicles around the world, ask yourself what would happen if using an ev battery instead. Would make Bin Laden look like an amatuer cracker enthusiast.
Wondering if the 6 EV battery fires whether the chemistry is Li-ion or LiFePO4 (LFP). My understanding is most Teslas and BYDs for at last the last several years have beeen LFP. And that LFP is supposed to much safer than Li-ion. Plenty of LFP battery drill test comparison videos now on YT.
I was looking through a report in Sweden on electric busses and there was one (1) case of fire involving a battery, it happened in the maintenance shop when one battery was dropped on another battery and the impact damage caused a thermal runaway. So, fires are rarely the fault of the battery.
Correct. As a fire investigator recently said to us 'there's always some kind of human involvement with these fires'. It's just a case of raising awareness as to when the risk is increased!
Well it's great to know you're firie, and your knowledge comes from experience in the industry. I look forward to the development of how we fight these fires in the decades to come.
So, the root cause of the garage burning down was? did battery thermal runaway assist in the burning down of the vehicles and structures? Can you provide some links to the investigation reports please
Great information and content as always! Thank you, Emma for all that you are doing to keep accurate EV Fire data clear and continuously updated. Great work!
And the cement truck in Victoria? I would suggest that most EVs are fairly new. Be interesting to see what the rate is in 10 years when the batteries are older.
Modern EVs have been around and available to the public since 2008 - thousands of them. But I suppose being as smart as you demonstrate, you will have already checked the data on this. What does it say?
when they say 640 ev fires are they counting all the burnt vechical , as i seen a row of electric busses 3 are well alight and a 4 is is about to go , say their is 10 busses and the all burn do they count that as 1 or 10 ,
Following up from this TH-cam video, re numbers of EV fires in Australia. I take it the fire at Sydney Airport was among you statistics, was this the “collision”? Otherwise the question that occurs to me (and I’m sure to you) is that the “battery that sparked the fire had been detached from the car and stored in the parking lot” What the hell were they doing??
Hey Shawn, no, the 6 talked about in this video are EV battery fires during normal operation. Currently preparing a second video about 'abnormal' circumstances, like the Sydney Airport fire, where an EV battery went into thermal runaway during testing, manufacture or being (essentially) abandoned, like the Airport incident. Standby! :)
Can we please have the stats for the number of petrol and diesel fires for the same time period for comparison. I understand it’s ten times more than EVs
depends on the comparison of the amount of ev's against the number of ICE cars but that also depends on who is collating the figures as many ICE cars fires are small and often extinguished without the authorities being informed
Let us know when that position paper is released. Suspect this will be like the recent ACCC report on Li-ion batteries - “more data needed”. They will have to look at data from overseas. I assume the 3 fires which involved houses were all primary house fires with secondary involvement of the cars. This is also a relative risk, there are on average 3,000 auto fires in NSW each year (see NSW fire and rescue website for stats) with some of those leading to secondary involvement. One could argue that replacing an ICE car with an EV should lead to a premium reduction. However the far more common causes of house fires are more mundane, fires in the kitchen and electrical equipment eg failure to clean the lint filter on the clothes dryer In the meantime, the recent guidelines from the Building Council (courtesy of EV Firesafe and Emma Sutcliffe) are an excellent start point
@@Neojhunyou do realise that an EV fire burning at 3000C and spewing unfathomably toxic gases ANYWHERE near your home or others is a ridiculously risky hazard, right?
@@petesig93 she didn’t actually say that was the reason for what started the fire. Was it the house caught fire for some reason and burnt the ev as a result or did the ev catch fire first and burnt the garage? Several people have asked this question and have had no clear answer. I’d be interested to know the ‘root cause’ of the fire. If it was a house fire then the evs burning should not be included in the stats. That would make them inaccurate.
Hi we host one of Australia's biggest solar podcasts. I'd like to invite you on to talk about ev fires, solar panel fires. Maybe around 15 -20 mins of your time?
Lets say we adopt evs totally its 2035 , and we have solar systems hooked up to massive batteries in most houses ... And a bushfire hits like it did in 2003 in canberra .... Batteries regardless of technology, when they get hot , are dangerous, think the flash that happened at luton airport carpark when there was sufficient heat ... That Will happen to entire suburbs, it will be hell , many will die, far too toxic and not fit for purpose....
I'm from Canberra too. Anything will burn in a bushfire. Batteries might burn a bit hotter - or a bit colder - than a bushfire. This does not affect the course of the fire. Bushfires are extremely hot. Hotter than battery fires often. Please show us how batteries would make bushfires worse. Sigh... eyes rolling...
2nd comment, they do allow ev s on the spirit of tasmania just no charging for them , have they done any fire drills should 1 catch fire or life boat drill ,,
@@petesig93 You got that from this vid? THIS SITE is all about promoting the need for fiery education, which they hope to provide. If the house is on fire, it would be the top priority, & pointless to even attempt to extinguish an EV experiencing a thermal runaway. Oh, that's right, those dumb things can't be moved when locked. 🙄
@@warrentaylor6230 Someone posts facts to contradict agenda driven bullshit. The classic responses are always either questioning the motive of the person, claiming fake or cherry picking i.e. standard human logical fallacies.
No matter how they soften the delivery on EV fires, there is still more spontaneous, hotter, violent and hard to put out EV fires than there are even spontaneously combating ICE fires. For an ICE to combust there is serious impact, damage or negligence.
The smoke is toxic, the water used to manage these fires becomes toxic. This is a very important matter you (and many others) have not mentioned. And we're not talking about a bad smell; there are some really very nasty chemicals being generated by these fires. Things that don't give you a second chance.
Lol...when you can't play the ball, play the man (or woman in this case). I think I will take the advice of a firie over your high IQ analysis of the facts
Just watched another video of EV fires Florida USA. Sample observation... 3 vehicles get caught in a flood zone. EV, diesel, petrol. Which vehicle has the highest probability of fire issues? Also... Not covered under warranty. Resold to unsuspecting buyer. Whilst it is CURRENTLY rare, wait until market penetration hits 50%. Waiting for the first EV to go up in a tunnel. That will be scary given the high burn temperatures.
Data from the US: ICE vehicles caught fire at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles. EV fires were 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles. Keep in mind batteries are getting better, yet, gas vehicles remain the same.
We are having EV;s forced on the motoring public ,those that can afford them, and although at the moment there aren't many fires they can start at anytime. This puts a huge burden on Fire Services and the safety of Firefighters ,which is only going to increase if government's and evangelist's have their way ,because of this we the public will have to suffer the cost as these vehicles become more numerous .What I would like to see is the manufacturers and EV owners paying the full costs ,to the fire services ,for the procedures and equipment required .To add to this maybe it would be beneficial to insurers to increase the prices onto owners rather than expect ICE drivers to cover the costs to
@@warrentaylor6230 have they found a solution ?are EV owners going to fund it or once again is it the government through tax payers money have to carry the can as we have to for all the subsidies ? it was a great idea in the last century but went to the wall because the infer structure and the tech was not right and its being proved again .Wonder if the new Ice engines sent battery power the same way as it did before .Once again tech is rolled out before its time
@@commonsense3222 The whole point of this is that problems with EVs catching fire (if that is to what your refer; your usage of "it" is a bit confusing) are absolutley minimal. Have you gone to the website and seen the data? Or just going to stay in your ivory tower? I would agree the tech is going to be substantially better even in 2 years but is very useable now.
@@warrentaylor6230 I have seen the research done at RAF Spadeham and my old brigade IN durham and have a good idea of the funding of the fire service and most of the research I have done was in my council house but that's by the by .my point was that the manufacture's have forged ahead with a technology that was ill thought out heavily polluting and with the help of an easily led governments and the whole issue of fire disregarded by said people and now the the Fire service and with that the tax and ratepayers money have to find a workable solution to the dangerous conditions these vehicles can cause .As for the solutions on offer according to that research that was done by said professor and fire service found no easily workable solutions
It seems that you did not become acquainted with the statistics. Were you drunk when you wrote this? I would also like to see EVs and their manufacturers pay their fair share of fire services. This would be a huge decrease in the amount they would have to pay. And talking about 'user pays', if combustion vehicles paid for the social and environmental cost of their emissions, they would be zillions of dollars in debt. It is only because of creative accounting that fossil fuels have been able to get away with what they have over the decades since humans understood the air pollution and greenhouse gases problem. EVs in no country are being 'forced' on anyone, but are being encouraged to mitigate the air pollution where humans breathe and greenhouse gas emissions which - whether you understand it or not - are setting our planet on a bad trajectory according to all the academies of science, NASA, NOAA, all the world governments, world militaries (which have to get things right regardless of what their grunts think). You know very little but you can know by embracing education and joining us. Local air pollution is an oft-forgotten issue that needs to be addressed as well. This is urgent and was urgent decades ago. Please look it up. Especially PM2.5. However, I suspect that you will remain true to your tribe and not consider any of this and continue in your trajectory.
It's more alarming how few people are interested in watching this important vídeo and how low the subscription numbers are. Everyone should be watching these! Thank you for all the info.
We don't quite have the pull of social media influencers just yet, but hopefully the message gets through to some!
Not sure of the circumstances but an EV in a garage caught fire overnight here in Perth (Applecross), completely destroying the garage and part of the home.
Very interesting. I noticed while doing some research, that your website states only 349 ev fires globally. However china claims 640 fires just in the first quarter of this 2022, while the UK have recorded 239 ev fires this financial year, and 130 the year before. (And not sure how accurate the 19,000 exploding in china is either so we will just leave that out)
So just wondering where you are getting your data from, because from that it appears different to what I've read thus far. Also curious to know the source of fires on ice hybrid to ev, comparing the 3 ignition sources would paint a better picture in terms of relativity.
it depends on who you want to belive they say theres only been 4 EV fires in Australia where as i have seen at least 6 if not more on the news with video footage
@@ruffnut743 the issue I have is that all the pro ev people love their stats and use them widely. And for me that just doesn't sit right knowing that there have been so many fires just from the battery alone. Serpenza did an exposed just how many are catching fire, but this group seem to just don't even acknowledge any of it. Said they came back from a study over seas, and UK alone had so many fires and it's not even on their radar, not even a mention. I thought I would have got a response, but now it seems like I now know the answer. And like you I've seen a lot more than 4 fires, just news alone.
Not acknowledged because this is a serious site not the clickbait TH-cam channels with fake news.
The western governments are pushing ev's of course they are going to cover up how many ev li fires have actually occurred
EV can include electric assist bicycles and e-scooters.
These are a bit of a "wild west" at present.
In the UK there are a lot more fires in these "personal transportation" systems than in Electric cars (BEV/PHEV).
Good coverage. Yes EV battery fires are not common but governments and bureaucrats need to be better informed and have policies in place to protect first responders, vehicle/house occupants and citizens who are close by. We do not want a recurrence of the permanent incapacity of the two Victorian firefighters.
Exactly what we're working on providing. Please note, we looked into the claim of two firefighters being incapacitated due to an EV battery fire, including emailing the union official who made the statement. We have been unable to verify this claim & suggest it has been confused with an incident at a battery recycling plant where an explosion caused a firefighter to lose footing on a ladder platform & fall.
It's under-researched claims like these that are causing so much fear, uncertainty & doubt in the emergency community.
Great website with useful information. Thanks!
We really need the BCA and Australian Standards to be urgently updated to provide clarity for construction and buildings. This very remote risk is being totally overmanaged by insurers, strata managers, risk managers etc
Yeah, plenty of people will be concerned & it should be sorted? Especially people that don't take the time to actually find out what the real chances are? It is 20 times more likely that a Petrol/ Diesel engine will catch fire, maybe we should focus more on keeping backup generators out of buildings? I continue to drive a diesel vehicle & assess the risk every day & carry fire extinguishers? The whole EV fire beat up reminds me of a story about Henry Penny & the sky falling down?
I wonder where we’ve heard that before…. “side effects are very very rare”
You must be talking about the recent mass injection of the population with an untested substance to prevent a disease that came from a bat cave in a very old country that is known for lax safety standards.
Safe and effective
Just like nuclear power.
if you're so scared of batteries, throw away your phone, smart watch and laptop. Go cry about it. Funny how anti ev nuts only care about EV cars and not their daily life that are powered by batteries
Same department that signed the official document allowing that, writes her cheques. The term defence is being incorrectly applied.
Thanks Emma for providing the perspective. EV fires are very rare statistically, Australia seems to be in rough alignment with data from overseas
Thanks the your support Shawn, & agree. It'll be interesting to see how things develop.
Your joking right. UK had 240 fires just last year. How is that rare?
But what is " rare " exactly and how does it compare to rare ICE fires exactly?
Ratios please.
@@crxdelsolsir, most "ICE" car fires are caused by .............. an electrical fault. Think about how certain nefarious groups use mobile phones to cause a "rapid unscheduled dismantling" of motor vehicles around the world, ask yourself what would happen if using an ev battery instead. Would make Bin Laden look like an amatuer cracker enthusiast.
@@ALLOFTHEBOOST You should read more and more widely and not just cartoons.
Wondering if the 6 EV battery fires whether the chemistry is Li-ion or LiFePO4 (LFP). My understanding is most Teslas and BYDs for at last the last several years have beeen LFP. And that LFP is supposed to much safer than Li-ion. Plenty of LFP battery drill test comparison videos now on YT.
Where can I find these numbers on your website? the information seems to be a bit different.
I was looking through a report in Sweden on electric busses and there was one (1) case of fire involving a battery, it happened in the maintenance shop when one battery was dropped on another battery and the impact damage caused a thermal runaway. So, fires are rarely the fault of the battery.
Correct. As a fire investigator recently said to us 'there's always some kind of human involvement with these fires'. It's just a case of raising awareness as to when the risk is increased!
Well it's great to know you're firie, and your knowledge comes from experience in the industry. I look forward to the development of how we fight these fires in the decades to come.
So do we!
So, the root cause of the garage burning down was?
did battery thermal runaway assist in the burning down of the vehicles and structures?
Can you provide some links to the investigation reports please
Great information and content as always! Thank you, Emma for all that you are doing to keep accurate EV Fire data clear and continuously updated. Great work!
And the cement truck in Victoria? I would suggest that most EVs are fairly new. Be interesting to see what the rate is in 10 years when the batteries are older.
Modern EVs have been around and available to the public since 2008 - thousands of them. But I suppose being as smart as you demonstrate, you will have already checked the data on this. What does it say?
when they say 640 ev fires are they counting all the burnt vechical , as i seen a row of electric busses 3 are well alight and a 4 is is about to go , say their is 10 busses and the all burn do they count that as 1 or 10 ,
Following up from this TH-cam video, re numbers of EV fires in Australia.
I take it the fire at Sydney Airport was among you statistics, was this the “collision”?
Otherwise the question that occurs to me (and I’m sure to you) is that the “battery that sparked the fire had been detached from the car and stored in the parking lot”
What the hell were they doing??
Hey Shawn, no, the 6 talked about in this video are EV battery fires during normal operation. Currently preparing a second video about 'abnormal' circumstances, like the Sydney Airport fire, where an EV battery went into thermal runaway during testing, manufacture or being (essentially) abandoned, like the Airport incident. Standby! :)
Can we please have the stats for the number of petrol and diesel fires for the same time period for comparison. I understand it’s ten times more than EVs
Eighty times more.
depends on the comparison of the amount of ev's against the number of ICE cars but that also depends on who is collating the figures as many ICE cars fires are small and often extinguished without the authorities being informed
Only 40% ? are you all mad, just ask your insurance company if they will insure your home while the e,v is in your garage?
The Australian Insurance Council release a position paper this month, so we'll have an answer to that question then.
Let us know when that position paper is released. Suspect this will be like the recent ACCC report on Li-ion batteries - “more data needed”. They will have to look at data from overseas. I assume the 3 fires which involved houses were all primary house fires with secondary involvement of the cars. This is also a relative risk, there are on average 3,000 auto fires in NSW each year (see NSW fire and rescue website for stats) with some of those leading to secondary involvement. One could argue that replacing an ICE car with an EV should lead to a premium reduction. However the far more common causes of house fires are more mundane, fires in the kitchen and electrical equipment eg failure to clean the lint filter on the clothes dryer
In the meantime, the recent guidelines from the Building Council (courtesy of EV Firesafe and Emma Sutcliffe) are an excellent start point
You do realize EVs don't require to be in a garage to charge? My EV Charger is in an open air car port.
@@Neojhunyou do realise that an EV fire burning at 3000C and spewing unfathomably toxic gases ANYWHERE near your home or others is a ridiculously risky hazard, right?
Presumably you did ask - so what was the answer?
so the 3 in garages... that burnt down... that weren't on charge... ok....
Nope. Unless you have other information?
@@evfiresafe So they weren't charging, yet still caught fire.
Isn't that even more reason not to have EVs?
@@CNile-se9xw because the HOUSE caught fire, then the car got burned as a result. This would would happen to any ICE car as well.
@@petesig93 she didn’t actually say that was the reason for what started the fire. Was it the house caught fire for some reason and burnt the ev as a result or did the ev catch fire first and burnt the garage? Several people have asked this question and have had no clear answer. I’d be interested to know the ‘root cause’ of the fire. If it was a house fire then the evs burning should not be included in the stats. That would make them inaccurate.
@@evfiresafe He doesn't.
There is a growing hyteria by the Facebook anti EV cooker types. It's good to know the facts but that probably not make much difference to them.
Cooker is the lamest insult and racist towards women.
Hi we host one of Australia's biggest solar podcasts.
I'd like to invite you on to talk about ev fires, solar panel fires.
Maybe around 15 -20 mins of your time?
I think you should add how many ICE cars have caught fire out of the numbers of them out there. Great video and nice information.
Just wait till these car batteries start to age and you’ll see a lot more battery fires.
Whats the evidence an old battery always goes on fire? Don't see that with phones/laptops that have the same chemistry
Idle speculation. Find something useful to do.
Said he who knows more than any other human.
@@Fomites Incorrect, just know more than you. Because I have been to the above website andothers and resd the real world data. Give it a go. Learn!
@@warrentaylor6230 Hang on Warren! My comment was to 'Shadowshow701'. 😎
Lets say we adopt evs totally its 2035 , and we have solar systems hooked up to massive batteries in most houses ... And a bushfire hits like it did in 2003 in canberra .... Batteries regardless of technology, when they get hot , are dangerous, think the flash that happened at luton airport carpark when there was sufficient heat ... That Will happen to entire suburbs, it will be hell , many will die, far too toxic and not fit for purpose....
75% or more ice car fires are arson, people setting cars on fire... A car fire can be put out with a fire extinguisher, not a EV in thermal runaway.
Luton car park was set off by a diesel. Like similar earlier incidents in Liverpool UK and Stavanger Norway.
I'm from Canberra too. Anything will burn in a bushfire. Batteries might burn a bit hotter - or a bit colder - than a bushfire. This does not affect the course of the fire. Bushfires are extremely hot. Hotter than battery fires often. Please show us how batteries would make bushfires worse. Sigh... eyes rolling...
2nd comment, they do allow ev s on the spirit of tasmania just no charging for them , have they done any fire drills should 1 catch fire or life boat drill ,,
@evfiresafe7330 So the 3 in the garage weren't charging, yet still caught fire.
Isn't that even more reason not to have EVs?
The HOUSE caught fire, then the car got burned as a result. Not dissimilar to what would happen to any ICE car as well.
@@petesig93 You got that from this vid?
THIS SITE is all about promoting the need for fiery education, which they hope to provide.
If the house is on fire, it would be the top priority, & pointless to even attempt to extinguish an EV experiencing a thermal runaway. Oh, that's right, those dumb things can't be moved when locked. 🙄
how much remuneration did you receive to make this video?
LOL. how much did you recieve to drink the coolade with ICE in it?
She is a professional; ie she knows what she is talking about.
Yours is the reply we might expect from an insect. Be a human adult. Sigh...
@@warrentaylor6230 Someone posts facts to contradict agenda driven bullshit. The classic responses are always either questioning the motive of the person, claiming fake or cherry picking i.e. standard human logical fallacies.
@@adamlea6339 I call it prejudice fuelled by deliberate ignorance. Sigh.
No matter how they soften the delivery on EV fires, there is still more spontaneous, hotter, violent and hard to put out EV fires than there are even spontaneously combating ICE fires.
For an ICE to combust there is serious impact, damage or negligence.
This statement is just untrue.
Yet combustion vehicles on a pro rata basis still catch fire more. Do you deny this?
The smoke is toxic, the water used to manage these fires becomes toxic. This is a very important matter you (and many others) have not mentioned. And we're not talking about a bad smell; there are some really very nasty chemicals being generated by these fires. Things that don't give you a second chance.
Go to the website for exhaustive ifo on these and other matters not covered in this short video.
Of course, fires caused by anything other than batteries is perfectly pure to breathe.
Best get rid of all our laptops and smartphones then, or perhaps we could try using logic in place of emotion to make better decisions.
I think Emma works for a propaganda unit for electric utopia
Lol...when you can't play the ball, play the man (or woman in this case). I think I will take the advice of a firie over your high IQ analysis of the facts
Nice way to cope with conspiracy theories based on your feelings.
Another intellectual with conspiracy theories. Try to get less information from comic books.
👍
Just watched another video of EV fires Florida USA.
Sample observation...
3 vehicles get caught in a flood zone.
EV, diesel, petrol.
Which vehicle has the highest probability of fire issues?
Also...
Not covered under warranty.
Resold to unsuspecting buyer.
Whilst it is CURRENTLY rare, wait until market penetration hits 50%.
Waiting for the first EV to go up in a tunnel.
That will be scary given the high burn temperatures.
The rates will always be rare on a percentage basis.
Yep - watching videos is the best way to assess relative risk of different vehicle technologies. Videos from Fox? Breitbart?
External combustion vehicles.
Ok when it start to smoke in high motorways speed, and then explode suddenly, who want to have this safe cars?
quick sell your petrol one!! 20 000 to 1 chance.
Data from the US:
ICE vehicles caught fire at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
EV fires were 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles.
Keep in mind batteries are getting better, yet, gas vehicles remain the same.
@@BioniqBob Most ICE vehicle fires are arson, which should be in the breakdown of the statistic you just provided.
@@LantanaLiz LOL "Most" LOL Where do you live in Low-Life Land. Go lie down.
As discussed in the video, it's very rare for an EV to spontaneously combust.
We are having EV;s forced on the motoring public ,those that can afford them, and although at the moment there aren't many fires they can start at anytime. This puts a huge burden on Fire Services and the safety of Firefighters ,which is only going to increase if government's and evangelist's have their way ,because of this we the public will have to suffer the cost as these vehicles become more numerous .What I would like to see is the manufacturers and EV owners paying the full costs ,to the fire services ,for the procedures and equipment required .To add to this maybe it would be beneficial to insurers to increase the prices onto owners rather than expect ICE drivers to cover the costs to
You do know that this is just the job she and colleagues at EV Fire Safe are doing? Way in front of you. Goto the website and see.
@@warrentaylor6230 have they found a solution ?are EV owners going to fund it or once again is it the government through tax payers money have to carry the can as we have to for all the subsidies ? it was a great idea in the last century but went to the wall because the infer structure and the tech was not right and its being proved again .Wonder if the new Ice engines sent battery power the same way as it did before .Once again tech is rolled out before its time
@@commonsense3222 The whole point of this is that problems with EVs catching fire (if that is to what your refer; your usage of "it" is a bit confusing) are absolutley minimal. Have you gone to the website and seen the data? Or just going to stay in your ivory tower? I would agree the tech is going to be substantially better even in 2 years but is very useable now.
@@warrentaylor6230 I have seen the research done at RAF Spadeham and my old brigade IN durham and have a good idea of the funding of the fire service and most of the research I have done was in my council house but that's by the by .my point was that the manufacture's have forged ahead with a technology that was ill thought out heavily polluting and with the help of an easily led governments and the whole issue of fire disregarded by said people and now the the Fire service and with that the tax and ratepayers money have to find a workable solution to the dangerous conditions these vehicles can cause .As for the solutions on offer according to that research that was done by said professor and fire service found no easily workable solutions
It seems that you did not become acquainted with the statistics. Were you drunk when you wrote this? I would also like to see EVs and their manufacturers pay their fair share of fire services. This would be a huge decrease in the amount they would have to pay. And talking about 'user pays', if combustion vehicles paid for the social and environmental cost of their emissions, they would be zillions of dollars in debt. It is only because of creative accounting that fossil fuels have been able to get away with what they have over the decades since humans understood the air pollution and greenhouse gases problem. EVs in no country are being 'forced' on anyone, but are being encouraged to mitigate the air pollution where humans breathe and greenhouse gas emissions which - whether you understand it or not - are setting our planet on a bad trajectory according to all the academies of science, NASA, NOAA, all the world governments, world militaries (which have to get things right regardless of what their grunts think). You know very little but you can know by embracing education and joining us. Local air pollution is an oft-forgotten issue that needs to be addressed as well. This is urgent and was urgent decades ago. Please look it up. Especially PM2.5. However, I suspect that you will remain true to your tribe and not consider any of this and continue in your trajectory.
Such a great technology… Half the range, twice the child labour and it may burn down your house!
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No cobalt in mine. Your gasoline car uses more cobalt, you child labour supporter!