Please please please review the PHILIPS EVNIA 49 qd-oled as well! This is the only panel that offers the full 240Hz besides the samsung G9 oled and there are barely any reviews on the model!
Yeah yeah. I'm sat here with my IPS not giving a shit about your burn in. Come back to me 2 weeks after your warranty has expired years when your monitor looks like shit and you can't even use it as a secondary monitor Just chuck it on the ever growing big bag of waste. Who gives a fuck
@@snowwsquire I could be wrong but IIRC displayport supports chaining so in theory it is possible to do it with one cable without needing any software hacks
All these models with 144hz are a slap in the face at that price point. If samsung is selling theirs for $1200 regularly for 240hz im not recommending 144hz for $1100, thats insane. At $900, they would make more sense and would sell pretty well. Having 1st place price tag with 2nd place features is a no-go.
@@MakeSh00t Refresh rates aren't free. They take more powerful and more in-demand chips in the monitors. For the type of people that buy 49" ultrawides, 144Hz is more than adequate. Personally, I'd prefer 240Hz+ 16:9 but that's just my preference.
144 hz is very good for single player games, it's more than needed. 100$ discount is fair enough, maybe 150$ would be better but to pay for 100 hz 100$ isn't that reasonable for not using them afterward plus burn-in coverage is quite important and it's not for free.
Only 144HZ? That's disappointing. I want to get an OLED G9 but I find too many Samsung Electronics Quality Control horror stories and bad customer service reviews. Especially in Canada.
There is a big sale on the oled g9 going on I also heard about the issues but I only heard about them in the neo g9 54" not the oled Not sure if the oled have the same problems
@@med7at10I bought the first gen of the VA panel G9 in 2020, but that monitor couldn't work in 240 HZ, which is the feature that Samsung claimed it supported until 4 or 5 months later, trust me, it was a struggle time, so I won't buy Samsung’s monitor unless I don't have other choices
For the Canada question, it depends on the division of Samsung. Samsung SSD have literally no warranty in Canada, and that's not hyperbole. They tell you to go to the retailer because they changed their warranty to be through the retailer in Canada a few years ago. But this isn't the EU, where the retailer is legally in charge of warranties, and they made no agreement with their retailers, so when Samsung tell you to go to the retailer, and you go, the retailer tells you to go to Samsung. On and on in an infinite loop until you give up.
What a waste of this for factor Why not 5120X 2160 At least it would advantage of the whole canvas instead of a stretched out 1440p display with a curve
Monitors Unboxed and the person in the video are my favourite channel and content creator lately. Fairly new to the channel, but it's so informative and the presentation is so well. Monitors make much more of a visual difference than gaming PC's. That's why it's more fun for me to watch these monitor reviews.
Came back to this video to watch because I just returned my THIRD Samsung G9 with issues. All 3 with various issues. I know this will have a lower refresh rate. But this is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. A working monitor, is much better than a non-working monitor. Look up issues people are having with their G9 monitors. These issues are all valid and Samsung customer service (even for in-warranty support) doesn't make the G9 worth the hassle fighting them for months when a monitor needs resolved. This will be my first MSI purchase and I'm looking forward to it. I wish Samsung would do better.
But it’s still a nice to have for the future. And the 144hz ASUS and MSI monitors are more expensive than there 240hz competitors. So you are mainly paying for the brand and better software.
in your opinion, i love my 49 incher for every game i play. elden ring, mw3, bf2042, dying light 2, horizon forbidden west etc... the only game requiring the flawless widescreen app is elden ring
I’m thinking about buying this monitor or possibly a cheaper one but with the same size and resolution. I play a variety of games but my primary reason for getting a monitor like this is for sim racing. I have a gaming PC with Ryzen 5600X and RTX 3070 OC. I’m a little worried that my system won’t be able to push so many pixels. I’d be happy to lower the graphics settings but I don’t wanna go down to potato quality. I can generally get 165hz at 1440p with ultra/high settings so I’m hoping that even with double the resolution, I can still push medium settings. What GPU did you use when testing the monitor and did you have any issues with getting decent framerates? Also if I am playing a game that doesn’t necessitate the Super UW aspect ratio, can I have the game play in the middle at 2550x1440 with black bars at the left and right?
These are likely panels that failed the 240hz certification and can only reach 144hz. It’s a fantastic display regardless and comes with a 3 year burn in warranty. I still ended up with the G9 OLED on sale for $1099. It’s an amazing display.
@@Relex_92 It also makes no sense for pricing. When the G9 OLED goes on sale for so "cheap", relatively speaking, why pay the same price for a completely inferior product?
Im interested as a buyer in upgrading from a AW3423DWF to the newer larger 45" 240hz 21:9 OLED ultrawides. Are you planning to review any of these soon?
It really sucks that the HDR Peak 1000 seems to be underperforming on most QD-OLED monitors. It's a shame because I like the nice bright highlights, but I find higher APL scenes too dim. Have to stick with the True Black 400 mode for now on my AW3225QF, and hopefully the Peak 1000 mode be fixed someday via a firmware update like was the case with the AW3423DW
Is it possible to plug in a DP cable with locking mechanism, like the "Club3D CAC-1091"? At Alienware monitors this is a real pain, have to press the mechanism so hard to be able to push it into the port, cause the case of the monitor has not enough clearance to use such a cable.
at $1100 i think this beats out the MSI 342C I've had my eye on. I get the Samsung Odyssey is slightly better, but I've just heard nothing good about that line from user reviews. Monitor issues, customer support issues, etc.
Here's a hot take - I think OLED monitors will quickly become...boring, kind of like phones have become nowadays. "Performance is basically identical", handle HDR well, "not great for productivity", "matte or clear depends on your use case". Eventually brighter panels and higher resolutions will clear out the brightness and text clarity issues and then...there we are. Just pick your size/format.
@5ean5ean22 100%. I went from a relatively new fast IPS to the G9 OLED, and I'd never buy any other kind of panel if burn in resistance and text fringing is improved. Motion clarity is absurd, HDR is stunning, true blacks are phenomenal.
I was never excited about monitors until my partner got an OLED. I thought it was a ripoff until saw it. The image comes alive, absolutely beautiful. So I got an OLED too, and one by one our friends bought OLEDs too. It’ll be decade or two before everyone else catches up with the technology. I fear for their wallets!
Don't get me wrong, I have an OLED, and I love it. I also agree that there's no going back once you've made the jump from an LCD to OLED. I just meant the comparison within the group of OLED displays - more specifically computer monitors. I just think that they will soon be so similar that the choice will almost always be down to other features than picture quality (apart from price, of course).
Could we see a review of the Koorui GN10, the only 240 Hz VA mini-LED other than Neo G8/9? It's been very cheap and appealing in Europe, where HDR monitors have been overpriced recently, but there is very little professional review data on it. I bought one for 300 € recently, while its competitors KTC M27T20 and AOC Q27G3XMN have been costing 400€ here. But I don't really have the means to test it other than say it looks nice and has some small issues that aren't dealbreaking.
Ultrawide fast refresh rate OLED is my next jump once I get my current OLED sold (if I do, debating still). I hope competition pushes prices down thou, they are a bit expensive.
@@pedro4205 It's a 32:9 monitor, no one's buying a TV in that aspect ratio. It's basically a pair of 32" UHD monitors stapled together, similar to how the previous G9 was a pair of 27" 1440p monitors stapled together.
If I wasn't so worried about burn in I would want one of these. I actually have the 49-in Odyssey and it is a production monster for work. I game on it too, but I also use it mostly for work because I work from home all the time now.
For me its actually the opposite. Ive had multiple OLED phones and TVs this far and I'll tell you if no one would've ever told me burn in is an actual thing, I would've believed that it simply doesn't exist. Thats why I really dont care at all about it
@@JanM2 yeah I have two OLED TVs and I love them! But because my TV shows diverse content, I don't worry about burn in on them. My concern is more or less the static imagery that you would have on a day-to-day basis on an OLED monitor with work apps and task bars.
The QDOLED raised blacks is a thing, however, I see it only if my overhead lights are mid to full bright. At my cozy dimmed brightness even with another light at the corner I see basically pure blacks. If your room has dimmed lights it is a non issue.
I still say that almost all of the issues with burn-in would be practically eliminated with 5-10% pixel over-provisioning and pixel shift. 10% is a lot yes but with static elements on an orbit 10% of the size of the screen burn in would be almost impossible to see even if it did happen.
In Europe this is 1700€... for 144hz gaming that´s way overpriced, even for a screen this big. The Samsung G9 is 1250€ here, so you would pay way more for less performance going with MSI.
Loving the series of OLED monitor reviews! With the 49" 32:9 form factor becoming more available, would you guys be able to test/demonstrate the performance differences between, say, 1440p monitors in 16:9, 21:9 and 32:9? I'm curious to know if and how much of a frame rate drop I could expect if I trade up to a wider format but stay at 1440p and the same GPU.
Agreed I’m in the same situation. I have a 165hz 1440p screen and thinking about upgrading to one of these 1440p super ultra wide monitors for sim racing but hoping my 3070 can push that many pixels without needing to drop my settings too low.
I'm a dumb. Can someone explain to me how this is the same size as 2 27inch 1440P monitors? 2 * 27" = 54" not 49". On top of that the screen real estate on these3 49"ultra wides is narrower horizontally than a standard 27" 1440P monitor. It's like you are looking through a narrow letterbox. I've actually measured these in a PC shop and no matter how you cut it these 49" ultra wide 1440P monitors at the same text size % offer less screen space than 2 * 27" 1440P's. I keep hearing it's the same but I don't see it. Can someone explain it to me? Also if you are going to choose this kind of monitor thinking it is the same as 2 * 27" 1440P's I'd strongly recommend going into a PC store and testing them. That is what turned me off this size when I was considering it, just too narrow. There is also a very good test online from a sim racer where he compares 3 * 27" monitors to one of these ultra wides and show how much detail across the sides gets cut off in sim racing games compared to having a 3 monitor setup which is superior. Just saying.
The ongoing problem that nobody is talking about is DSC. Unfortunately, these high refresh rate/resolution displays are not compatible with Nvidia DSR, NIS, or DLDSR. This is partly the fault of Nvidia, but in a lot of cases the monitor manufacturer does not offer any workaround like lowering refresh rate to 120hz or even just an option to turn off DSC in the monitor settings.
i used to have a G9 for 1 year before putting it back in the storage and get a 42 C2. It's great for gaming/creative work but for me who consumes a lot 4k media all day, even more than gaming , it really wasn't suitable.
@@ryanthompson7919 I don't think i can go back to 32:9 as monitor . On the LG C2 42 my experience with watching Movies/other media + gaming/work has been too good and the 42 inch is just the perfect size as well. It's like i found my perfect Niche monitor and I was looking at upgrading to LG C4 42 but a mere extra 24hz on refresh rate and alil more brightness doesn't justify the steep 1500$ price tag !
Just some feedback - I don't think 19:08 should be called the "HUB Essentials Checklist" - "Essentials" implies that everything on the list is 'essential' -- that they are expected, necessary things -- that any red boxes are 'bad'. But there are so many 'optionals' and 'would be nice not required' and even 'who cares' entries -- for example, "Built In Speakers"? 480hz? USB hub? There are lots of things that are far from essential and moreso luxuries. And there shouldn't be multiple tiers of things on a "essential checklist" (e.g. 120hz, 240hz, 480hz), thats not what an essentials checklist is! I'd suggest changing the name of that bigger list to the "HUB Full Checklist" or something like that as it would be less likely to be misunderstood by a typical viewer. Have the "HUB Essentials Checklist" be separate, and only include things that are considered minimum levels to be considered 'good' or 'worth buying'. Since I'm late to the party here and this probably won't be seen, I'll try to remember to post this comment again early on in the next review.
The 144hz really do sting at that price point. With Frame generation becoming much more prevalent I feel like my 144hz monitor is really starting to limit my gaming experience. You have such a narrow framerate window where it's actually useful. You don't want to be much lower than 60fps base framerate when you enable FG, but at the same time if you're much higher than 72fps you don't want to enable it either. Before FG I thought 240hz+ was something a single player gamer didn't need at all, because most current games won't run at 140fps even on top of the line hardware. With FG howerver a 240hz monitor suddenly allows you to enable the feature at 90 or 100fps and suddenly experience the smoothness of 200fps. Maybe that's worth mentioning in reviews of 144hz monitors?
hoping you guys get to review Gigabyte's GS27QX, 300 USD monitor for 240hz 1440p monitor! It's the same price as the M27Q and MSI G274QPF-QD in my region (350 usd)
Does this come with a big power brick like samsung g9 oled? I actually prefer it because having power brick built on the back of the monitor usually give coil whines
Have you gotten a look at the Asus XG259QN? It's a lot cheaper than the Zowie 360Hz in my country but I can't seem to find much in the way of reviews online
I really wish you guys would publish all this to a website so I could do a better comparison instead of having to pause your video whenever you show a chart.
This msi version is fanless, so there will never be a coil whining when spinning. Do the other super ultrawide screens also have a fanless heating solution ?
Any serious long term burn in tests anywhere for productivity so far? I know Tim has started his own test, but it's way too short yet. Rtings seems to just do the same test as on their TVs.
I really don't see the point of that one. I have 2 stacked 27" monitors (one of top of each other) and it a lot better to have verticality rather than horizontal screen estate.
@@Im_Behind_You Im saying 21:9 not 32:9, that's too big for my desk lmao, something like the odyssey oled g8 but with a newer panel and high refresh rate
@@synraxxMSI have told TFT Central that they are gonna release a 240hz, 21:9, 34". It was supposed to be announced this month. Also it's based on gen 2 QD Oled.
@@FrowningTaco Was planning on just getting an odyssey g8 but yeah, now I'm considering waiting for the that MSI one instead, sounds really good, just hope it's not too expensive
Pass on all 32:9's, ya they look cool but the more you use it the more you will feel squished and craving more vertical. I been using one for 3 years and its about to be gone. 45in 21:9 is next. 21:9 is the perfect aspect ratio, your videos will fit and compatible with every game and just fills your view better especially when curved.
I think it's safe to say that unless there is some kind of weird behavior with a specific OLED monitor it's okay to just skip the response time part in monitor reviews as all OLEDs are basically identical.
0:47 LOL. Welp time to stop this video. No like button or dislike button smash here. Just MSI lying and not delivering. The second I hear that, video is over.
Not all of us gamers can use OLEDs because we also use our gaming rigs as workstations. It sucks seeing LCDs being thrown under the bus by the manufacturers when they're clearly still the more versatile technology.
@@Im_Behind_You how so? LCDs are inarguably more versatile because they don't have burn-in issues. Fewer high-end LCD monitors suitable for gaming are being released now. Those that do get released always have major compromises, such as shitty HDR, HDR not working with FreeSync, only an excessively curved version of the display, etc.
@@tekelupharsin4426 There's too many things wrong in your comment to address every one of them, but mostly you need to learn that burn-in issues aren't a thing any more
Just pointing out: a 49" 32:9 monitor is the same area as a ~38" 16:9 monitor. If you're comparing against regular widescreen monitors, that's what you should look at for the same price. Also, 1800R is far too large. Nobody sits 1.8 m from their monitor. The entire point of a curved screen is to make all parts of the screen the same distance from your eyes so everything's the same size and so you don't need to keep refocusing. There is zero distortion only when the radius of curvature matches the distance between the screen and the center of your head (assuming that's the point you pivot around). 1800R is just curved enough for marketing purposes for people who actually want a flat screen but have money to burn.
@@GrainGrown I did not say OLED was a joke, I own an OLED TV. Having to babysit your PC monitor just to avoid burn in is indeed a joke. You'll see in 10 years when a better technology replaces OLED.
He tends to reviews monitors that he professionally recommends or monitors that draw interest or requests. So if LCDs are not getting many reviews these days, it’s probably because they’re not being recommended anymore and they’re not generating interest anymore. It’s probably something to do with having outdated technology. There’s no way it could be that right?
@@npaul5962 why are you making excuses for poor coverage? Do you understand the market is more than OLED? miniLED isn't outdated technology and there's quite a few decent options out there. Even more options are releasing this year with HDR 1400 certification. I enjoy my OLED, but I bought a miniLED TV afterwards and I'm not going back to OLED anytime soon. The HDR is much better on the miniLED displays.
I don't understand, who the hell needs something like that, it's harmful to have such a huge monitor in front of your eyes, like having a smartphone right in front of your nose...
These tech companies really need to up their game when it comes to naming their monitors They are worse than the rainbow flag crowd with their alphabetti spaghetti.
I've been asking myself that same question. The display can communicate it's specs and model to the computer. Windows should have clear type settings for these new pixel layouts
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Please please please review the PHILIPS EVNIA 49 qd-oled as well! This is the only panel that offers the full 240Hz besides the samsung G9 oled and there are barely any reviews on the model!
But do they have a burnin warranty though?
I’m selling my Alienware Qd oled as soon I see it
Red magic also has 240hz
@@Tike22 3 year burn in warranty!
@@ajmatt from Phillips? Damn that pretty damn good then if true gonna have to switch
samsung odyssey oled g9
philips evnia 49m2c8900
redmagic realm
aoc agon pro pd49
acer predator x49 x
Any news on 24" OLED Displays?
Shut up
@@Relex_92 27" is too big
There probably won't be any 24" OLED monitors available any time soon.
Yeah yeah.
I'm sat here with my IPS not giving a shit about your burn in.
Come back to me 2 weeks after your warranty has expired years when your monitor looks like shit and you can't even use it as a secondary monitor
Just chuck it on the ever growing big bag of waste.
Who gives a fuck
Try not being a poor and you can get one of these oleds instead of jealousy using that trash ips monitor you have.
All 32:9 monitors should have hardware split screen so you can use it as two normal monitors when needed
You can do this with about every of these monitors. This one included. 😉
@@nKrandomwithout plugging in 2 display cables to the same PC??
@@duncethedoctor9054 what do you think hardware splitscreen would be??? ofc you need 2 cables or else you'd have to do software emulation
@@duncethedoctor9054 As this one only has 1x DP u would need to plug in HDMi für the 2nd one, but yeah - y not?
@@snowwsquire I could be wrong but IIRC displayport supports chaining so in theory it is possible to do it with one cable without needing any software hacks
All these models with 144hz are a slap in the face at that price point. If samsung is selling theirs for $1200 regularly for 240hz im not recommending 144hz for $1100, thats insane.
At $900, they would make more sense and would sell pretty well. Having 1st place price tag with 2nd place features is a no-go.
samsung goes on discounts 910-1000$USD pretty often
why to have 144hz... 7 years ago was ultrawide monitors 144hz... no reason to go in 2024... Minimum should be 200hz.
@@MakeSh00t Refresh rates aren't free. They take more powerful and more in-demand chips in the monitors. For the type of people that buy 49" ultrawides, 144Hz is more than adequate. Personally, I'd prefer 240Hz+ 16:9 but that's just my preference.
144 hz is very good for single player games, it's more than needed. 100$ discount is fair enough, maybe 150$ would be better but to pay for 100 hz 100$ isn't that reasonable for not using them afterward plus burn-in coverage is quite important and it's not for free.
@damientech88 I would hope the majority of people buying this type of monitor have the gpu power to use it or plan to have a gpu to use it to its max.
Only 144HZ? That's disappointing. I want to get an OLED G9 but I find too many Samsung Electronics Quality Control horror stories and bad customer service reviews. Especially in Canada.
There is a big sale on the oled g9 going on
I also heard about the issues but I only heard about them in the neo g9 54" not the oled
Not sure if the oled have the same problems
1099$ for the g9 oled is a very good price
144hz on Oled!
@@med7at10I bought the first gen of the VA panel G9 in 2020, but that monitor couldn't work in 240 HZ, which is the feature that Samsung claimed it supported until 4 or 5 months later, trust me, it was a struggle time, so I won't buy Samsung’s monitor unless I don't have other choices
For the Canada question, it depends on the division of Samsung. Samsung SSD have literally no warranty in Canada, and that's not hyperbole. They tell you to go to the retailer because they changed their warranty to be through the retailer in Canada a few years ago. But this isn't the EU, where the retailer is legally in charge of warranties, and they made no agreement with their retailers, so when Samsung tell you to go to the retailer, and you go, the retailer tells you to go to Samsung. On and on in an infinite loop until you give up.
What a waste of this for factor
Why not 5120X 2160
At least it would advantage of the whole canvas instead of a stretched out 1440p display with a curve
Monitors Unboxed and the person in the video are my favourite channel and content creator lately. Fairly new to the channel, but it's so informative and the presentation is so well. Monitors make much more of a visual difference than gaming PC's. That's why it's more fun for me to watch these monitor reviews.
His name is Tim
his name is Tim
Came back to this video to watch because I just returned my THIRD Samsung G9 with issues. All 3 with various issues.
I know this will have a lower refresh rate. But this is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. A working monitor, is much better than a non-working monitor.
Look up issues people are having with their G9 monitors. These issues are all valid and Samsung customer service (even for in-warranty support) doesn't make the G9 worth the hassle fighting them for months when a monitor needs resolved.
This will be my first MSI purchase and I'm looking forward to it.
I wish Samsung would do better.
You're not getting 240fps at 4K playing single player games. 144Hz allows you to max out your monitor.
But it’s still a nice to have for the future. And the 144hz ASUS and MSI monitors are more expensive than there 240hz competitors. So you are mainly paying for the brand and better software.
These are good for sim racers but not a great choice for typical gamers.
in your opinion, i love my 49 incher for every game i play. elden ring, mw3, bf2042, dying light 2, horizon forbidden west etc... the only game requiring the flawless widescreen app is elden ring
I’m thinking about buying this monitor or possibly a cheaper one but with the same size and resolution. I play a variety of games but my primary reason for getting a monitor like this is for sim racing. I have a gaming PC with Ryzen 5600X and RTX 3070 OC. I’m a little worried that my system won’t be able to push so many pixels. I’d be happy to lower the graphics settings but I don’t wanna go down to potato quality. I can generally get 165hz at 1440p with ultra/high settings so I’m hoping that even with double the resolution, I can still push medium settings. What GPU did you use when testing the monitor and did you have any issues with getting decent framerates? Also if I am playing a game that doesn’t necessitate the Super UW aspect ratio, can I have the game play in the middle at 2550x1440 with black bars at the left and right?
These are likely panels that failed the 240hz certification and can only reach 144hz. It’s a fantastic display regardless and comes with a 3 year burn in warranty. I still ended up with the G9 OLED on sale for $1099. It’s an amazing display.
@@Relex_92 It also makes no sense for pricing. When the G9 OLED goes on sale for so "cheap", relatively speaking, why pay the same price for a completely inferior product?
Im interested as a buyer in upgrading from a AW3423DWF to the newer larger 45" 240hz 21:9 OLED ultrawides. Are you planning to review any of these soon?
144 hz is enough for single player games, I never use more than 120 FPS on my G9 Neo.
It’s just not enough pixel density
I agree. With nearly all oleds except the 32" models, you get amazing picture quality, but text looks like crap because of the low ppi.
Thanks for your great Review.
Du you prefer the MSI or the Samsung with 240Hz?
I am wavering between the two models
Thanks😊
It really sucks that the HDR Peak 1000 seems to be underperforming on most QD-OLED monitors. It's a shame because I like the nice bright highlights, but I find higher APL scenes too dim. Have to stick with the True Black 400 mode for now on my AW3225QF, and hopefully the Peak 1000 mode be fixed someday via a firmware update like was the case with the AW3423DW
Is it possible to plug in a DP cable with locking mechanism, like the "Club3D CAC-1091"? At Alienware monitors this is a real pain, have to press the mechanism so hard to be able to push it into the port, cause the case of the monitor has not enough clearance to use such a cable.
at $1100 i think this beats out the MSI 342C I've had my eye on. I get the Samsung Odyssey is slightly better, but I've just heard nothing good about that line from user reviews. Monitor issues, customer support issues, etc.
Here's a hot take - I think OLED monitors will quickly become...boring, kind of like phones have become nowadays. "Performance is basically identical", handle HDR well, "not great for productivity", "matte or clear depends on your use case". Eventually brighter panels and higher resolutions will clear out the brightness and text clarity issues and then...there we are. Just pick your size/format.
Whats better than it. No one who has an OLED will want to go back to LCD.
@@5ean5ean22I literally went to miniLED after OLED. So..
@5ean5ean22 100%. I went from a relatively new fast IPS to the G9 OLED, and I'd never buy any other kind of panel if burn in resistance and text fringing is improved. Motion clarity is absurd, HDR is stunning, true blacks are phenomenal.
I was never excited about monitors until my partner got an OLED. I thought it was a ripoff until saw it. The image comes alive, absolutely beautiful. So I got an OLED too, and one by one our friends bought OLEDs too.
It’ll be decade or two before everyone else catches up with the technology. I fear for their wallets!
Don't get me wrong, I have an OLED, and I love it. I also agree that there's no going back once you've made the jump from an LCD to OLED. I just meant the comparison within the group of OLED displays - more specifically computer monitors. I just think that they will soon be so similar that the choice will almost always be down to other features than picture quality (apart from price, of course).
any plans for testing Dell Ultrasharp U4025QW? "productivity first, gaming second" monitor
16 inches of venom
Could we see a review of the Koorui GN10, the only 240 Hz VA mini-LED other than Neo G8/9? It's been very cheap and appealing in Europe, where HDR monitors have been overpriced recently, but there is very little professional review data on it. I bought one for 300 € recently, while its competitors KTC M27T20 and AOC Q27G3XMN have been costing 400€ here. But I don't really have the means to test it other than say it looks nice and has some small issues that aren't dealbreaking.
It's not OLED so we'll probably never see OLEDs unboxed cover it.
Ultrawide fast refresh rate OLED is my next jump once I get my current OLED sold (if I do, debating still).
I hope competition pushes prices down thou, they are a bit expensive.
Just save your money for next year’s models
NVIDIA Launch ‘G-sync Pulsar’ Allowing ULMB at the Same Time as Variable Refresh Rates... better to wait and 480hz at 1440p most fun u can have.
just give me dual monitor with 1440p 360hz and 4k 240hz version. All other monitors are mediocre
This is the size and form factor I want on a secondary monitor placed above a 43" 4K monitor.
Are you guys going to review the 57 inch monitor from Samsung
This is called "a TV"
@@pedro4205 It's a 32:9 monitor, no one's buying a TV in that aspect ratio. It's basically a pair of 32" UHD monitors stapled together, similar to how the previous G9 was a pair of 27" 1440p monitors stapled together.
If I wasn't so worried about burn in I would want one of these. I actually have the 49-in Odyssey and it is a production monster for work. I game on it too, but I also use it mostly for work because I work from home all the time now.
Yeah same I am paranoid about burn in. That is the reason when I had to buy a new monitor I didn't even consider oled monitors
Same burninophobia here
For me its actually the opposite.
Ive had multiple OLED phones and TVs this far and I'll tell you if no one would've ever told me burn in is an actual thing, I would've believed that it simply doesn't exist.
Thats why I really dont care at all about it
@@JanM2 I have a oled phone as well and while I don't have burn in it keeps nagging me in the back of my head.
@@JanM2 yeah I have two OLED TVs and I love them! But because my TV shows diverse content, I don't worry about burn in on them. My concern is more or less the static imagery that you would have on a day-to-day basis on an OLED monitor with work apps and task bars.
Size at the expense of performance and quality. It's not for me. Specialy at that price range.
I am still waiting for 2160p wide screens, not this wide but lg’s 45”s aspect ration is better in my opinion.
When you guys reviewed this last year it had 240hz, what happened? th-cam.com/video/TX6gaT0fz_M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8CnhSfAaMt3OCjda
Waiting review of AORUS CO49DQ
HDR
The QDOLED raised blacks is a thing, however, I see it only if my overhead lights are mid to full bright. At my cozy dimmed brightness even with another light at the corner I see basically pure blacks.
If your room has dimmed lights it is a non issue.
I wonder if you guys can review MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2, the successor of the original.
I still say that almost all of the issues with burn-in would be practically eliminated with 5-10% pixel over-provisioning and pixel shift.
10% is a lot yes but with static elements on an orbit 10% of the size of the screen burn in would be almost impossible to see even if it did happen.
Nobody review PiP 😥
Good thing I was awake @ 4am to see this.
Bro it is 13:00 in Europe
@@chocholatemilkshake4799 5am GMT-6 didnt sleep to watch this...
6am for me.
In Europe this is 1700€... for 144hz gaming that´s way overpriced, even for a screen this big. The Samsung G9 is 1250€ here, so you would pay way more for less performance going with MSI.
I Pay 1400€ For the c2 since 1 year and its 65 "😂 yes that monitor it's overpriced
True, even Philips evnia 240hz is cheaper.
Those borders :(
Was hoping this would be my next monitor but not enough USB ports for the hub and the lack of split screen options ruins it at that price point
Review the gigabyte, aoc, acer and phillips 49" models
Loving the series of OLED monitor reviews!
With the 49" 32:9 form factor becoming more available, would you guys be able to test/demonstrate the performance differences between, say, 1440p monitors in 16:9, 21:9 and 32:9? I'm curious to know if and how much of a frame rate drop I could expect if I trade up to a wider format but stay at 1440p and the same GPU.
Some basic math could tell you that, the % difference in pixels should roughly equate to % difference in performance
@@cenciende9401 theoretically, maybe. But I really don't think it's that's simple and some real-world testing would be useful.
Agreed I’m in the same situation. I have a 165hz 1440p screen and thinking about upgrading to one of these 1440p super ultra wide monitors for sim racing but hoping my 3070 can push that many pixels without needing to drop my settings too low.
49 inches of what?!?!!!
Ultrawide meme
Do MSI and Asus not want to sell these? I can’t think of any good reason why Samsung gets 240Hz, but MSI and Asus choose 144Hz.
These are last years failed panels.
This 1440p garbage is garbage. Give us 2160p 240hz
There is a such thing as TOO wide, and this it is.
Please reviww the MSI 34" MAG 341CQP
I'm a dumb. Can someone explain to me how this is the same size as 2 27inch 1440P monitors? 2 * 27" = 54" not 49". On top of that the screen real estate on these3 49"ultra wides is narrower horizontally than a standard 27" 1440P monitor. It's like you are looking through a narrow letterbox. I've actually measured these in a PC shop and no matter how you cut it these 49" ultra wide 1440P monitors at the same text size % offer less screen space than 2 * 27" 1440P's. I keep hearing it's the same but I don't see it. Can someone explain it to me?
Also if you are going to choose this kind of monitor thinking it is the same as 2 * 27" 1440P's I'd strongly recommend going into a PC store and testing them. That is what turned me off this size when I was considering it, just too narrow.
There is also a very good test online from a sim racer where he compares 3 * 27" monitors to one of these ultra wides and show how much detail across the sides gets cut off in sim racing games compared to having a 3 monitor setup which is superior. Just saying.
2560 x 2 = 5120 🤯
Me when 5120 / 2 = 2560
finally another 49 :), thhanks for the update, I just want a ultra Monitor with 4k or better with HDR, am I asking too much
So many of those exist
I'm not a gambling person so, no. That burn in is gonna bite me in the ass if I get one of these.
The ongoing problem that nobody is talking about is DSC. Unfortunately, these high refresh rate/resolution displays are not compatible with Nvidia DSR, NIS, or DLDSR. This is partly the fault of Nvidia, but in a lot of cases the monitor manufacturer does not offer any workaround like lowering refresh rate to 120hz or even just an option to turn off DSC in the monitor settings.
i used to have a G9 for 1 year before putting it back in the storage and get a 42 C2. It's great for gaming/creative work but for me who consumes a lot 4k media all day, even more than gaming , it really wasn't suitable.
I actually have an lg c2 right now as my main monitor. I was going to buy a 32:9 oled as my main monitor and then use the lg c2 as a bedroom tv
@@ryanthompson7919 I don't think i can go back to 32:9 as monitor . On the LG C2 42 my experience with watching Movies/other media + gaming/work has been too good and the 42 inch is just the perfect size as well. It's like i found my perfect Niche monitor and I was looking at upgrading to LG C4 42 but a mere extra 24hz on refresh rate and alil more brightness doesn't justify the steep 1500$ price tag !
Awesome, another doa monitor.
Just some feedback - I don't think 19:08 should be called the "HUB Essentials Checklist" - "Essentials" implies that everything on the list is 'essential' -- that they are expected, necessary things -- that any red boxes are 'bad'.
But there are so many 'optionals' and 'would be nice not required' and even 'who cares' entries -- for example, "Built In Speakers"? 480hz? USB hub? There are lots of things that are far from essential and moreso luxuries. And there shouldn't be multiple tiers of things on a "essential checklist" (e.g. 120hz, 240hz, 480hz), thats not what an essentials checklist is!
I'd suggest changing the name of that bigger list to the "HUB Full Checklist" or something like that as it would be less likely to be misunderstood by a typical viewer.
Have the "HUB Essentials Checklist" be separate, and only include things that are considered minimum levels to be considered 'good' or 'worth buying'.
Since I'm late to the party here and this probably won't be seen, I'll try to remember to post this comment again early on in the next review.
The 144hz really do sting at that price point. With Frame generation becoming much more prevalent I feel like my 144hz monitor is really starting to limit my gaming experience. You have such a narrow framerate window where it's actually useful. You don't want to be much lower than 60fps base framerate when you enable FG, but at the same time if you're much higher than 72fps you don't want to enable it either.
Before FG I thought 240hz+ was something a single player gamer didn't need at all, because most current games won't run at 140fps even on top of the line hardware. With FG howerver a 240hz monitor suddenly allows you to enable the feature at 90 or 100fps and suddenly experience the smoothness of 200fps.
Maybe that's worth mentioning in reviews of 144hz monitors?
hoping you guys get to review Gigabyte's GS27QX, 300 USD monitor for 240hz 1440p monitor! It's the same price as the M27Q and MSI G274QPF-QD in my region (350 usd)
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Does this come with a big power brick like samsung g9 oled? I actually prefer it because having power brick built on the back of the monitor usually give coil whines
Have you gotten a look at the Asus XG259QN? It's a lot cheaper than the Zowie 360Hz in my country but I can't seem to find much in the way of reviews online
I really wish you guys would publish all this to a website so I could do a better comparison instead of having to pause your video whenever you show a chart.
5120x1440 for a monitor that huge is a no. DPI is way too low.
Not big enough that's why I rather get 3 32 inch 4k monitors that should be about 213 cm so few cm longer than a 77 inch
It's not big enough maybe a 77 inch with Same aspect ratio would be big enough just maybe
This msi version is fanless, so there will never be a coil whining when spinning. Do the other super ultrawide screens also have a fanless heating solution ?
hello, have you tested the aoc q27g4xn monitor? is the ips one, not the mini led g3xmn.
Any serious long term burn in tests anywhere for productivity so far? I know Tim has started his own test, but it's way too short yet. Rtings seems to just do the same test as on their TVs.
So it's coming in late and now 144Hz so disappointing MSI!
38" WUHD OLED is the best choice for monitor. Waiting for this
i have a 21:9 oled but where's the cheap 16:9 24" oleds. Would love to have one on the side
The monitor you need for Kevin MacLeod's newest video, lol
I really don't see the point of that one.
I have 2 stacked 27" monitors (one of top of each other) and it a lot better to have verticality rather than horizontal screen estate.
Widescreen gaming.
@@paulcox2447 still don't really see the point but for racing sim.
I need them to release a second gen 21:9 oled monitor😭
this the second gen lol
@@Im_Behind_You Im saying 21:9 not 32:9, that's too big for my desk lmao, something like the odyssey oled g8 but with a newer panel and high refresh rate
@@synraxxMSI have told TFT Central that they are gonna release a 240hz, 21:9, 34". It was supposed to be announced this month. Also it's based on gen 2 QD Oled.
@@FrowningTaco Was planning on just getting an odyssey g8 but yeah, now I'm considering waiting for the that MSI one instead, sounds really good, just hope it's not too expensive
Nothing new on the new line, think I’ll stick to my OLED G8
is it possible to change the aspect radio to 21:9?
will there be any non oled review planned or there are all oled currently?
I think for a large monitor like will need a controller
Pass on all 32:9's, ya they look cool but the more you use it the more you will feel squished and craving more vertical. I been using one for 3 years and its about to be gone. 45in 21:9 is next. 21:9 is the perfect aspect ratio, your videos will fit and compatible with every game and just fills your view better especially when curved.
I'm the opposite, been using a 21:9 and I'm bored with it. Yeah it's practical but doesn't feel much different than 16:9.
@@deviantbuildsfirst word problems. "I'm bored with it." Lol. Unreal.
@DrakonR yeah funny how I went from 3rd world problems to 1st world problems
I think the problem might be the size itself that's the annoyance, not aspect ratio
Is there any OLED ok for productivity use 🤔
you mean aside from all of them? None of them.
I want an ultra wide but I want 4k
Has this channel become exclusively an OLED monitor review channel? I miss the reviews of more affordable non-OLED monitors.
1440p is unacceptable, the DPI is horrible
I think it's safe to say that unless there is some kind of weird behavior with a specific OLED monitor it's okay to just skip the response time part in monitor reviews as all OLEDs are basically identical.
Exactly. They are essentially the fastest things on the market way faster than every LCD and all about the same to each other
1440p. Naaa
0:47 LOL. Welp time to stop this video. No like button or dislike button smash here. Just MSI lying and not delivering. The second I hear that, video is over.
he continues to shit on Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 4K 240hz and doesnt include it in stats . He is a true hater of the monitor
You're coping, coping and seething. 🎶
@@DrakonR I am very upset because the monitor is so good... at least he inlcudes in HDR stats
@DrakonR 🤡
@@HumbleDude46995 so good at scanlines. Now you're coping, coping and seething. 🎶
Not all of us gamers can use OLEDs because we also use our gaming rigs as workstations. It sucks seeing LCDs being thrown under the bus by the manufacturers when they're clearly still the more versatile technology.
incorrect
@@Im_Behind_You how so? LCDs are inarguably more versatile because they don't have burn-in issues. Fewer high-end LCD monitors suitable for gaming are being released now. Those that do get released always have major compromises, such as shitty HDR, HDR not working with FreeSync, only an excessively curved version of the display, etc.
@@tekelupharsin4426 There's too many things wrong in your comment to address every one of them, but mostly you need to learn that burn-in issues aren't a thing any more
@@Im_Behind_Youthat's 100% a lie.
miniLED is the up and coming for displays. There's already some decent options on the market and they're only going to improve.
Just pointing out: a 49" 32:9 monitor is the same area as a ~38" 16:9 monitor. If you're comparing against regular widescreen monitors, that's what you should look at for the same price.
Also, 1800R is far too large. Nobody sits 1.8 m from their monitor. The entire point of a curved screen is to make all parts of the screen the same distance from your eyes so everything's the same size and so you don't need to keep refocusing. There is zero distortion only when the radius of curvature matches the distance between the screen and the center of your head (assuming that's the point you pivot around). 1800R is just curved enough for marketing purposes for people who actually want a flat screen but have money to burn.
7:34 So basically if you use your pc for work, don't buy it. Oled monitors are a joke unfortunately
This comment is a joke. They’re excellent for productivity.
Yeah... It's not worth it. For work any cheap monitor for 100-200 bucks can do the job
@@rickgear2579 I was not talking about that, I was talking about the burn in risk when you use it for long working hours with many static elements
*PC
*OLED
You buy hardware depending on your usecase. You saying OLED is a joke, makes you a joke.
@@GrainGrown I did not say OLED was a joke, I own an OLED TV.
Having to babysit your PC monitor just to avoid burn in is indeed a joke. You'll see in 10 years when a better technology replaces OLED.
Another OLED review? Oh thank god. Wouldn't want to see any other displays out there other than OLED on a monitor review channel.
Nope! I draw the line at 21:9. This is just obscene!
Why? I have 3 monitors and I'd like to replace them with a super duper ultra wide but they don't make 48:9.
Should change the name of the channel to OLEDs unboxed at this point. What a joke.
He reviews LCD too. Maybe you should not get emotional over panel technology?
@@paulcox2447 sure, he's covered one LCD in the past year. Congratulations, you're not "technically" wrong. Just a goof.
He tends to reviews monitors that he professionally recommends or monitors that draw interest or requests.
So if LCDs are not getting many reviews these days, it’s probably because they’re not being recommended anymore and they’re not generating interest anymore. It’s probably something to do with having outdated technology. There’s no way it could be that right?
@@npaul5962 why are you making excuses for poor coverage? Do you understand the market is more than OLED? miniLED isn't outdated technology and there's quite a few decent options out there. Even more options are releasing this year with HDR 1400 certification.
I enjoy my OLED, but I bought a miniLED TV afterwards and I'm not going back to OLED anytime soon. The HDR is much better on the miniLED displays.
I don't understand, who the hell needs something like that, it's harmful to have such a huge monitor in front of your eyes, like having a smartphone right in front of your nose...
F1 Racing or Microsoft Flight Simulator
@@chocholatemilkshake4799
You don't care about your eyes, do you want to have eyes like those of 70 when you're 30?
Do you have any evidence to support your "theory" that using a large monitor is harmful to the eyes? Or are you just spreading misinformation?
Lol, try it out.
For the game that support this aspect ratio they're super immersive.
21:9 in comparison are a joke
@@Trololo_n1ce4mesauce?
These tech companies really need to up their game when it comes to naming their monitors
They are worse than the rainbow flag crowd with their alphabetti spaghetti.
Why is Microsofts Monitor / Color Calibrating team not adressing their Font issues after severals years now?
I've been asking myself that same question. The display can communicate it's specs and model to the computer. Windows should have clear type settings for these new pixel layouts
This may come as a shock, but the overwhelming majority don't use OLEDs so the need isn't there.
@@DrakonRoled has picked up a lot of marketshare over the past 3-5 years in the PC space
It's only going one direction, away from LCD.
@@paulcox2447 it literally hasn't. But keep coping.
It has@@DrakonR