When I turned 21 and wanted to buy my concealed carry handgun I did tons of research and decided that a DA/SA gun was what I wanted (A USP compact 9mm), the salesman at the gun store talked me into a glock 23, because “.40 is way better than 9, and DA/SA is outdated”. 6 years later I find out that .40 is going out of style, and DA/SA is starting to see a small revival. My takeaway lesson: don’t listen to the guy at the gun store.
+Brett Lewis What kind of conversation did you have with the salesman? I mean, you said you researched a bit, did you try to broach out comparisons. I'm just curious about how/why he turned you around. And did you eventually go back for what you wanted?
+DainBramaged 4Life It was my first gun purchase, and it didn't take much for me to feel like everything I read online was negated by the employee's cockiness and "life experience". I eventually got a 9mm, but that wasn't until 2013 when the 9mm counter-push was in full swing. I've also got two DA/SA guns now, but neither are guns that I carry regularly.
+Brett Lewis I"kinda"know the feeling. Not to gloat, but my luck was a little better only because I got my pistol after I paid for it. My first pistol purchase and I mean first was a Springfield 1911 Mil-spec, and after waiting fifteen days to walk back into the store, I fork over my cash to the sales guy, take my pistol out of the box, looking it over(fondling it as publicly legally as possible)and this girl who was also working behind the counter looks at my pistol and says:"That's an OLDE gun."She actually shook her head with pity at my cumulative choice of twenty five years study of weaponry the Glock toting little so and so! She had a job I'd sell my brother's most prized possession to get, and this girl comes along and steps on my choice of pistol like it was some bug to be squashed. There is no justice. : (
I don't know about concealed weapon permits but you only have to be 18 to own a handgun, in California all you have to do is have a parent buy one and fill out a intra-family transfer, no ffl required.
@@harryann1069 I guess you're not really wrong, I feel it can also ironically be the exact opposite. These days, a lot of people use DA/SA pistols to be "different" from the striker-fired crowd.
Always remember - you have all the time in the world to reholster .... dont rush it. Pulling it out of the holster has to be quick - putting it back in can be as slow and methodic as you want ...
stopglobalswarming ummmm.... yeah cause that doesn’t look shady at all trying to stash something in your waist line as a shower 😅 I think I’d just put it on the ground and back up. So as to not tamper with evidence or have to be searched and have a firearm on me.... then have to answer the officers questions about why I used my firearm and now it’s back in my waist line. That just sounds like bad advice 🤔
Joshua Randolph a friend and i came back from Duncan donuts once, and found a door open, so we went to clear rooms. The cops showed up fast bc the silent alarm had been triggered. We stuffed our guns before they came up, showed id, and we figured one of us had ledt the door unlocked and the draft set it open when we left. So we dismissed the police and nothing happened.
Excellent video and I agree with you 100%. I started my handgun experience with double action revolvers and, when my police organization transitioned to semi-automatic pistols, mostly DA/SA pistols. Over the decades, I've shot and carried all types of handguns, but I always come back to the DA/SA platform. My two favorite pistols are the Sig Sauer P226 and the CZ P-09. Yeah, I'm kind of stuck on full-size pistols, too!
I'm 24 and I prefer da/sa. The first handgun I shot was a 96fs surprisingly I didn't find the da trigger that hard to get used to and love the way it shoots. It just takes practice. You have common sense. We need more people in the gun community like you.
I'm also 24 and only own 1911s, a browning hi power, a px4 compact carry, and a couple beretta 92s haha. Most of my buddies ask why I dont buy a glock, i imagine it's the same reason everyone doesnt own a Toyota Camry. Itll get the job done, but itll never be what you want ;)
I remember this video. It was around thanks giving of 2016 and I was stuck in a hard place with deciding between the G19 and P07. This very video convinced me to purchase the P07. I have never looked back! :) thank you Lucky Gunner
I've never felt better about a decision after rejecting the striker fired Sig I had picked out and buying a CZ P-01 instead. This video sums it up perfectly.
I have a 92FS I bought in the 1980's. It's a sacred cow now in my gun safe. Now I carry an Elite LTT or a PX4 Compact Carry. There's just something about a Beretta that feels right in my hand.
I own a Beretta 92 FS Brigadier Inox w/ laser grips and a Glock 34 RMR, and I can tell you right now that I shoot the 92 far better than the 34, and the 34 is considered one of the better striker fired pistols out there. I also feel safer having a docker/safety that allows me to decock and make the gun safe, thumb over the hammer, and holster, and then take the safety back off. And heck, I shouldn't say that it feels safer, it IS safer and far more idiot proof than holstering my glock.
It was so pleasing to see your comments regarding DA/SA vs striker guns, and the logic you employed. I am in my sixties now and have been shooting all my life including competitively. I have never carried on my person a partially or fully cocked firearm with one in the pipe, ever. I find the many H&K, SIG, Walther and Baretta to name a few DA/SA guns to be excellent firearms in all respects. I am not the least bit concerned of an AD with any of them. I also find a J-Frame S&W revolver to be one of the safest, accurate and reliable EDC firearms available anywhere. But then I cut my teeth on revolvers and I can shoot a DA firearm accurately. So can all the naysayers and striker fanboys it just takes practice, practice, practice. And this is the important part, you can practice without ammo using a laser with a DA/SA firearm, revolver or auto. And this is by far the #1 way, as proven by the USMC to teach trigger control for putting the first round on target consistently. Keep up the great reviews, very well done.
My first gun ever for concealed carry was a striker fire semi-auto, but I decided to go with DA/SA because its the only way I could get myself to carry with a bullet in the chamber. With the striker fire I was very uneasy carrying that way; the long harder 1st pull of the DA/SA gave me the confidence I needed.
Great video! As a military veteran and experienced shooter, i can definitely relate to the point that ALL people (myself included) make bonehead mistakes! I personally prefer the DA/SA pistols for all the reasons you mentioned.
Excellent review and suggestions. I have been carrying concealed since 1973 when I became a police officer and now as a licensed individual. I started with small J frame S&W revolvers and preferred the Model 40 Centennial. There wasn't a huge selection of CC guns in the early 70s. I added the 640 and now a 642 (which is my primary carry gun, I'm old, I appreciate the light weight) I also have a S&W .380 Bodyguard for deep concealment. That gun is a concealed hammer fired DA ONLY semi auto. Yes, I have striker fired 9mms, single stack and double stack and single action .45s and larger revolvers, but 99% of my carry use is either a DA ONLY M642 revolver or the DA ONLY .380 Semi-auto. I have no issue with DA/SA guns, I just don't currently own one. The "trigger pull" debate is mostly nonsense for CC defense handguns. These are NOT range guns or target guns. The DA trigger is for SAFETY which is very important when carrying a gun a LOT and shooting it a LITTLE. I had a Model 92 FS. Nice gun, it was the gun we switched to from revolvers in 1988, but very large and heavy for CC, IMO, and it was not any better as a range gun than the Browning Hi-Power, Colt M1911s or Colt Officers Model Match .38 I already owned. So I traded it off. If you have no problem with carrying it...enjoy! It was, and is, a fine police duty handgun. IMO, persons wanting a gun for CC need to stop all this nonsense about trigger pulls and sights and focus on PRACTICE. IF the time comes you actually need the gun for defense you are NOT going to notice the trigger pull and probably won't even see the sights.
Wow, lot of great information in this response. Didn't know the Berettas were in those films b/c they were actually a big deal in the real world at that time. Thanks for posting!
You have given the best advice of all! Safety first! My sentiments exactly. And you brought up what no one else has mentioned -A BACKUP in case of a malfunction, jam, run out of ammo, or any other of the endless possibilities of unforeseen dilemmas that you don't want in a life or death situation. I carry a 9 mm and a revolver (.357, .38, or .44 special) depending on the situation and weather.
The way I was originally taught and still the best way I've seen to learn to control the double action trigger pull was practicing at the range and dry firing a double action revolver...it helped me greatly.
I'll often dry fire my DA S&W .357 a few dozen times, absentmindedly, with each hand, while sitting on the couch watching a movie. Great for building wrist strength and control.
I have mountains of respect for a practiced and experienced shooter who admits he can and does make mistakes. There are far too many wannabe gun Jesuses out there (and especially on TH-cam) who in their minds walk on water and never commit a gun sin. BS! Just one example of this: appendix carry. Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. AC means you're walking around all day in that condition. Hey, I sometimes AC, so I get why people do. Just please, everyone, stop claiming to be gun safety flawless. You're not. The more convinced you are that you're too good to make a mistake, the more likely you will. As for DA/SA carry, I support that if it that's what works for a given shooter. I'm in my late fifties and came to RKBA world later in life than probably most people who might read this. My first firearm purchase, while I was still on active duty, was a S&W 642, a DA only revolver. It's still a good carry choice for some scenarios. I would never try to convince a student or a friend to carry a Glock or some other SF pistol just because I do. In fact, I own DA/SA pistols and am increasing my training with them. Maybe my preferred carry choice will evolve.
@@BrassicaRappa Thank you! This guy's breaking the commandments. "You shall have no other Jesus but Ian". Please forgive him Gun Jesus for he knows not what he does.
I am always amazed when people say "The only thing you need to be safe is to follow the rules of gun handling...." seriously? in what other aspect of life are we sure we follow rules 100% with 0 errors? Brain farts happen... and in gun handling one mistake can be fatal....
+kauxkaux It happens to professionals too. One of the often said phrases in the military when it comes to firearms is this: a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/244598/450/350/3_21_complacency_kills_450.jpg
Because they will have more hours training with their firearms in their career than most of us will in a lifetime. Honestly it's whatever they want. They want a Glock, they get a Glock. That being said, I love my Glock 19, and will probably not carry anything other than that, but I also can't beat my P226 when it comes down to shooting accurately.
I can't imagine carrying a striker fired pistol. Only DAOs or DA/SA for me. I too, love the extra security of the long trigger pull. And being able to ride the hammer, when re-holstering to prevent any interference with the trigger by clothing, and causing a negligent discharge.
As far as lint goes, if lint builds up in the hammer like that, the owner is most likely neglecting to clean the gun properly and routinely. I carry appendix, so a gun will jab me in the belly whether it has a hammer or not. I don't now how it is for hip carry. I do agree with the exposed hammer possibly snagging. I guess if someone chooses to carry an exposed hammer, they must train to properly remove the garment to prevent snagging. Some hammers are probably more likely to snag than others like revolver spurs are than the rounded hammers like those on Berettas.
This is why I carry a XD Mod 2 and why I may buy a XDS. I am going back and forth between the Shield and XDS the back-strap safety allows one to take their hand off the grip safety when holstering.
@@lamarphill1715 hey i have both....i like how the xdm shoots but i feel better carrying the shield with the manual saftey. But my fave is the DAO bodyguard 380
Same here. Shot a lot of different firearms but started with a CZ75B in the 90's. Been through the G21, G17, G19, G26. Now I'm back with the CZ75 Compact using an early model M&P Shield as backup. Doesnt matter how much training you have, a safety is still a good idea.
@@Patriot7476 Yep, can't blame you-- I went from my DA/SA de-cocker Ruger P-95 to a striker PPS. And while I really do like my PPS (it's infinitely more carryable than my Ruger is) I have begun a search for a thin, DA/SA to carry again... fwiw
I like DA pistols too, my CZ 75 Compact is my favorite. I like my striker guns as well but the look & feel of a metal gun that's DA/SA is my preference.
I’m a few years late, but this video, and others like it, were the catalyst for my switch to DA/SA pistols for daily carry. Thanks for putting these videos online!
I have been a shooter MANY years , I retired from the USMC with 22 years " 18 years ago ". I have carried everything from cocked and locked 1911s to you name it in combat and as a civilian. As I get a little older " and a lot wiser " I decided carrying a cocked striker fire pistol with no safety other than the "trigger safety" to be un necessary and risky. I have read many reports of accidental shooting with these pistol by both novices AND combat vets who later became law enforcement.I "and the wife" now carry the Sig- P250 D.A.O. pistols. I feel much more comfortable with a round in the chamber. With minimal practice I am able to draw and fire accurately the DAO just as fast as I can my Glock or XDS . While I never had the occasion to use a pistol in Iraq , twice since I have been retired , the possession of a handgun has save my life . On both occasions I did draw " but did not point the pistol at the assailants , I kept the muzzle to ground " the mere presence of the gun and the look in my eye's was enough to stop the attack. This verified an old saying that a Master Gunny had " When the .45 comes out All The Bullshit Stops ! "
TheFew TheProud Brandishing?? Bad idea! Really bad idea. That can be jail time here, or it can be a slab in the county morgue's refrigerated storage lockers. By the time I have a sight picture, I have that trigger 95-98% pulled back, and am ready to break that shot. With me, at the very least, if comes to the point the gun actually has to come out of the holster, a round is coming out the muzzle, and, at the very least, it's going very close to somebody's foot, and unless we are dancing, it won't be my foot. If it's not immediate assholes and elbows the next 4 or 5 will be center of torso and head. If there is any another gun(s) involved it will be 4 or 5 rounds per threat, for maximum expedient threat elimination. You, I, or anyone else can go to jail for brandishing a weapon, even in Arizona. (It's a far better situation when the person you threatened with a weapon is either dead, or {second best} your assailant has very obviously already broken the law, and you have absolute proof, that will stand up in court.) Other states call it menacing with a weapon (Arizona's term), threatening with a firearm, or some other fancy legal term, with a very loose definition, that can be implemented with something as innocuous as open carrying, in a state where open carry is 100% legal. What, you don't think the other guy won't lie, and laugh as you go to jail, and your guns get impounded? You damn well know that will happen. The last time I had to put one in the dirt was to separate a meth head metal thief and one of his friends from my dog, on my fenced, posted, and monitored property. Within 8 weeks the idiot was back in prison again. He just got out again. Hopefully he will go back very soon, without me ever seeing him again. If I can walk or run away, and I am not on my property, that is preferable to the legal hassles involved with a shooting or even a menacing with a weapon charge. I got halfassed forced into the Glock hype very early on, before the DEA's "Frisbee Testing" rounds, and Glock pistols were total garbage. Wrestle with an unarmed assailant, fall on your Glock and your Glock was broken. Slip on some ice, fall on the Glock, and break the Glock. Better yet, chamber a round and shoot a hole in your floor, with your new plastic fantastic pistol from hell. Still better yet, shoot the Glock and watch the slide twirling back into your face. Oh good, I still had my own front teeth before I shot a Glock. Glock carefully, and quietly rounded up over half a million pistols, and replaced them with various "upgraded models", of varying reliability. Some of them would short cycle, and would stop working. After 10 years they FINALLY made a pretty darn good gun, but 10 years of selling junk, 5 1/2 years of exporting junk to the USA, and calling it "perfection"? Perfidious is as perfidious does. Glock's marketing department is a large tank of very slippery eels.
My first Handgun experience was with the P8 (millitary version of the USP) a gun with an exceptionally tough double action mechanism. In my time in the military I learned the benefits of double action and why its worthwhile to learn to work with the inherent difficulties of that mechanism. Anywys, great video!
I carry and shout exclusively p228/p226DA/SA. I switched to this platforms few years ago for every reason you said in this video. It's nice to finally hear someone say what I have found to be a better choice for many of the stated reasons. Well said sir.
I started with revolvers, and spent most my adult life with them, so this was natural for me. My first DA/SA semi was a Ruger P89. Loved the design, and the extra margin of safety it afforded, but it never shot well for me. Went the same route as you, with striker pistols. Now I mostly own Sigs: 250 Compact to carry, 226 for the home, 2022 for the range. I think of the 250 as my ultra high-capacity revolver. Both 250 and 2022 underrated.
I've basically thought this for years and I'm nowhere near a gun expert. My gun nut friend would always defend Glocks but when it came time for me to buy a gun I ended up getting an HK USP and I don't regret making that choice.
Perfect example is the FBI agent (2018-I think) that dropped/ fell out of his backside holster.His Glock on the dance floor. Hurriedly picking it up got his finger tangled in the trigger guard and BOOM BANG went off and bullet fragments hit someone in the club he was at. Bad choice of weapon for being in public off duty.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! You seem to be one of the only gun media guys out there who is firing on all cylinders!!! I am a career Marine who was on active duty during the switch from the 1911 to the M9...Extremely good choice by our military, giving us many more options for conditions of weapon readiness versus safety!!! I always ask the Glock only mafia: Do you really think that it would be a good thing if hundreds of Marines or soldiers in a bivouac or assembly environment, in the field, digging fighting positions, building structures, unloading supply trucks, conducting training, participating in physical fitness ALL THE WHILE, carrying a Glock 17, with one in the chamber? How about a 1911 cocked and locked? Maybe for a cop or security guard…that makes sense. But for the gaggle of infantrymen, wouldn’t it make a hell of a lot more sense if there was a manual safety and double action pull between an accidental discharge and the death or injury to one of your men??? In the infantry, we generally know when we are “crossing the line of departure”, or “going outside the wire”, and we set our weapons to the appropriate condition of readiness. Manual safeties and double action pulls are outstanding tools to give military leaders and trigger pullers “options”, with regard to safety, on one end, and rapid initiation or return of fire on the other.
Glocks are good because they are reliable. Talk shit all you want. Trigger is fine if you practice with it. If your scared of not being competent enough to handle it, carry condition 3, and train racking on your draw stroke. If you go through life making excuses for yourself youll find in the end you could have done so much more. Armchair warriors can prove me wrong all they want, it makes no difference. Pay attention to life, stay vigilant 24/7. Its not hard to do, it sounds like it but once you make it a way of life you wont go back to the slumber you woke from. And whenever you are dealing with a gun, pay very close attention to the condition it is in. No. Matter. What. FiTe mE KidDos
Gieszkanne Sure in normal operating conditions. Every modern pistol is reliable after it's been cleaned and lubed. In more extreme conditions Glock has the edge.
I laughed at your comments because I've said the same thing ever since they introduced the Glock. Yeah, I'm that old, and as a long time cop and trainer in law enforcement, I have always strongly advocated against striker fired weapons for uniformed law enforcement, or any personnel who have the portential to present their weapons on a day to day basis. If you look at what departments are hiring in terms of life experience, stature, and physical abilities, I understand why. Yes shooting scores have gone up at the range, but no matter how you slice it, these guns shoot way to easy under stress, and in my opinion have never been suited for anyone but specialized units who train regularly with their weapons.
Gieszkanne you don't get to shoot yourself twice, it's the very first long trigger pull what represents an extra layer of safety and makes a significant difference in gun handling.
These are good points. I'd like to add a few more. 1. I think all DA pistols will allow a second trigger pull and strike on a hard primer without the need to rack the slide. I've never had a round that didn't fire with domestic ammunition, but I've used some lower cost practice ammunition that needs two strikes sometimes. With a good DA gun, I can just pull the trigger again. Doing so allows me to take the second pull while still pointing the gun at the target. I don't think anyone really waits thirty seconds to clear a round that is potentially having a hang fire, so DA gives a better chance to deal with a hang fire more safely. 2. In an encounter at very close distance, the chances of missing are small, and adrenaline will be flowing hard. No one in that situation is going to notice the longer, heavier pull of a DA trigger. Furthermore, no one needs SA trigger pull precision to hit a target at that distance. 3. At anything other than very close distance, most people would be better served by moving and seeking cover than by trying to do a fast draw and winning a "high noon style" gunfight. During the process of moving and seeking cover, someone who really needs the light pull of SA can just cock the hammer with his/her thumb. 4. Just as the DA trigger pull of the first shot can require some practice to master, some striker-fire triggers just don't seem to be in the right position for a shooter to pull the trigger safety so that the trigger will move. I've had problems with my finger not engaging the trigger safety very well and as a result I couldn't pull the trigger. I've adjusted to the trigger safety on the gun where I had problems, but I had to adjust. I don't put quite as much weight into the overall safety benefits of the DA system as you do. I like the idea of holstering the gun with a thumb on the hammer, but I suspect that the day one forgets to take a finger off the trigger will be the day that he/she forgets to put the thumb on the hammer. In a stressful situation, I also suspect that the longer, heavier DA pull won't seem any longer or heavier in making a mistake than it would be in firing a shot under high adrenaline. The adrenaline will make pushing the gun into a holster with a strap caught on a trigger no safer than doing the same with a SA trigger.
Interesting point 1 there, a DA semi-auto is actually more capable than a revolver in this regard. With a revolver you don't want to just pull the trigger again because if it's a hangfire now it will fire with the cylinder hole partially blocked.
Glad there are some other double-action people out there. We are a rare breed today. My first handgun was the CZ-75. I don't know why, but I've never had a problem with the long heavy pull. In fact, my heavy double-action shots are always more accurate than my single-action shots.
Thanks. It was nice to hear good arguments in favor of DA/SA amidst the very many sites urging us all to a consistent trigger pull. I guess that explains the mix in my collection -- striker fired pistols (Glock, M&P, XDM), long striker fired (Kahr) and DA/SA (yup, CZ of which I have a few).
This is one of the best TH-cam video's on triggers I have seen. I also returned to DAO and never looked back. So tired of internet jerks on gun forums putting down these triggers. The new gun culture of every one thinking a light striker fired trigger is what the pro's use therefore all DAO are terrible. In fact how many times do you hear some internet forum poster say when referring to a nice DAO gun as "It has a terrible trigger". Lol, of course to them, it is terrible because they never shot one, or took the time to learn the DAO. And the gun they are referring to actually has a splendid Trigger. Smooth, controlled all the way through, and deliberate. Great video. When some internet poster gives me a hard time, from now on, I will just refer him to this video. Thanks for the great info for others.
Thank you. I was able to forward your video to a family member buying his first firearm. I share your views and I am grateful that your excellent presentation has explained what I was trying to say.
California Edc just slide your gun in and out of the holster when you buy it to see if anything makes contact w the trigger. After that, practice re-holstering with your holster on. That's what I do at least.
Happens more than you think on police ranges. Heard of a few instances where reholstering was attempted just to have Glock fire because Mr. Officer had his finger on the trigger when reholstering.
An excellent point. A lot of gun handling in general and self defense in particular is based on “what are the chances that...?”. The chances may be as good or better that a civilian could be injured in a gun safety incident, self inflicted or otherwise, than by an armed criminal. Obviously this could be mitigated by practicing safety, but what fun is that ?
Exactly!!! So I 'm not the only one that thinks that way. Sorry for the little bit of sarcasm, but it is good to hear this message articulated so well. Good job and thank you.
Great video , I’ve searched for someone to break it down like this and finally found your video . It’s every common sense I have thought to myself (I’m a new shooter) so it’s great to hear it repeated back to me . I’m about to buy a new handgun and have been struggling with this decision for quite some time since it’s a fairly expensive gun (sig legion vs legion SOA). This video really reinforced my instinctive thoughts and has lead to me making up my mind! Thank you for great content.
I got into law enforcement in 1982. I started with a revolver so firing double action is like 2nd nature for me. All my semi auto pistols have been double action with a safety/decocker. I’d never carry anything else!
You should go with an American made DA/SA if you are a true American Patriot, LEO, or Military. Sig is the best option that meets those requirements IMHO.
I bought a Beretta 92fs in 1995 and I still carry it daily, to me it's the AK47 of the pistol world, it fires every time and I know where the bullets are going
@@CountryKyle007 guess it depends how much training you have with the weapon. I've trained since the 80s with multiple weapons platforms and to say the AK is garbage is a bit naive unless you bought a garbage ak to begin with. Just like you can buy a garbage AR, or a garbage FAL.
Thanks for the video. Just got through watching an active self protection video about the Glock and after seeing John berate one of his viewers comments , I truly appreciate the way you speak to your audience, and the way you answer comments. Thanks 😊
Thank you for your insight. This helped me greatly. I like your comment about the first shot of a DA/SA pistol giving you a little more time to think about whether you really want to fire the gun. There are many videos stating the extra time it takes to fire the first round of a DA/SA pistol could get you killed. in my opinion the extra time could keep you from killing someone you didn't intend to. You don't get a do over. I think in a threatening situation I could get my trigger pulled no matter how far it had to move or how hard it was to pull. These are just my thoughts. Thank you.
Well said! I've come to the same conclusion recently and its not only a good thing for reasons stated, its a great excuse to shop and buy more pistols!
Thanks man. I was already sold on a P30SK for AIWB but this just solidified it. I first came across you via your awesome ballistic test of defensive carry ammo. Great, honest presentation👍🏼
Get yourself a CZ-75 I've been carrying them for over 25 years & they are a great DA/SA pistol. Good advice to those who are not sure of themselves when holstering a DA/SA firearm. Train with it a lot also, good tips people all should listen to him.
I love this video and feel pretty much the same in regards to DA/SA guns for carry and Duty. I have owned all types and primarily have carried Glocks, but these days I am leaning more towards my Sig 229 Legion and my CZ P07 for EDC. We all practice a bunch and feel the muscle memory from repetition is likely adequate to avoid accidental discharge, but like the video states, life threatening encounters are hard to practice in regards to our actual response. That custom Glock trigger system I put on my gun just might be the cause of a potentially fatal mistake. Also, once you have decided to open fire, the follow up shots in single action with a hammer fired pistol are undoubtedly going to be smoother and faster. Still love my Glocks though, I’m starting to think they are best when carried stock with some sight upgrades.
Thank you for making those very good points about layered safety features. I think the point becomes increasingly relevant this week with the shooting of Daunte Wright. If the officer who had 26 years of experience on the force was able not to notice that she had was pulling on the trigger of her glock and not her taser, what does that say for the rest of us?
Phillip King shit I made a mistake yesterday shooting with a sniper rifle I was aiming down at a target and right before I pull the trigger ... boom!!!!!! Little did know the gun had a light weight trigger 2lbs guy apologized about it but still I wish I would’ve known before hand
The safety factor of a double / single action trigger gun is tremendous, especially for the novice. That is why I recommend the Beretta 92 series to anyone thinking of getting a handgun. Mistakes with any gun can be fatal. Thank you for explaining the safety benefits of the double / single action gun.
Excellent video. I myself am a living example of how easy it is to make one of the mistakes. you spoke of. I also am at the range weekly, have taken many hours of training courses, and practice a high level of safely but in a moment of being unsafe in March had a negligent discharge re holstering a "modified trigger" striker fired pistol and put a 9 mm round through my thigh. I got REALLY lucky based on my stance and it went in and out through about 10 inches of my lateral thigh without causing major damage...other than my pride. The scary thing is I've carried that pistol appendix and can only imagine that scenario not turning out so well. I have, and love, many DA/SA pistols and my experience has changed how I carry. The funny thing is I'm just as quick and accurate with the DA/SA and even with DAO ! Its all in the training. THANKS for the video confidence.
"Excellent video. I myself am a living example of how easy it is to make one of the mistakes." That does not need you need idiot proof gear, just gear that is safe enough. Otherwise you shouldn't nowhere near firearms in the first place.
Aside from mag capasity, you have sound points for the civilian use of revolvers as personal defense weapons. As Elmer Keith may of put it decades ago, there will always be a place for revolvers.
I’ve been carrying concealed for 48 years. For a LONG time my carry gun was a Walther PPK 32. That gun has a great feel and I always liked the DA pull being so long and tough. You had to consciously fire that first round. Later I switched my carry gun to a S&W model 36. Again DA with SA capability. Again I like the tougher DA pull as my defense against sloppy gun handling and hurting myself. Recently a man I knew went to his tire shop early one morning to open up. The video camera caught the incident. He stepped out of his truck and headed for shop door and realized his shop key was in glove box. He reached into his glove box and his loaded Glock was in there. That striker fired trigger hung up on something - maybe the shop keys? - and BOOM he killed himself right there. How sad an ending for a great guy. My response was to begin carrying again my Sig M11-A1. I too like to carry AIWB and I feel as safe with the Sig as I do with a S&W Model 36 or my old Walther PPK. It’s up to each of us. I’m old and wise and very experienced now. And I have screwed up in my life with gun handling just enough to know that that extra layer of protection of a DA/SA gun is my favorite insurance against inadvertent mishap.
As for your friend that had a Glock in his glove box, why wasn't it in a holster that completely covered the trigger and trigger guard? That is a must. The problem wasn't the Glock. The problem was the idiot that had a Glock sitting in a glove box without a holster. I assume he also put it in his pants pocket without a holster as well.
Very good, balanced presentation. I moved from striker, to revolver, to striker, then to DA/SA. My favorite is the polymer frame Sig Sauer SP2022, sort of a "best kept secret" with Sig heft, size, and quality, at about half the price of a Sig 226. I installed a Galloway Precision Hannibal trigger in my SP2022 to provide overtravel adjustment, and the gun shoots like a dream. I still shoot striker and revolver, but always end up back at the SP2022. And that first shot can be SA simply by cocking the hammer.
This X 1000. I got an H&K P30L V3 (DA/SA) for this reason, among others. I love the flexibility and extra safety it provides. The vast majority of the Negligent Discharge videos on TH-cam are with striker-fires guns (mostly Glocks).
Quality Video, as usual for you guys. You have given me something to ponder. Recently a local guy was re-holstering his Glock as he was fixing to leave a restaurant and he put a .40 through a woman in the next booth. Ouch.
Just bought another one, but chambered in .40 S&W. With the decline in popularity of the .40 they almost giving them used .40 guns away, and surplus cop ammo is hitting the market now too. It's like me with the 9mm 20-25 years ago, when everyone defected from 9mm for the .40 S&W. Same deal with 7mm Mag for hunting. I was buying really nice old .30-06s every week, for stupid cheap prices. I can load a mean .30-06 round. I still really like .300 Win Mag too. Fads, trends, and brand loyalty are all kinda lost on me. I play Vantage guitars, that will hunt down, and stomp a Gibson costing 12-200x more into the dirt. CZ 75s just feel SO nice in the hand. Not overly heavy, just the right amount of heft, to make it shoot like a dream, even in .40.
I picked a P07 Duty b-series one of the few guns I've put in my hand and just fell in love. Despite some initial teething problems she had common with the Duty series she now runs flawlessly.
I received a S&W 908 as a gift. It's 25 years old, and runs really well. I quickly became comfortable with using the DA mode as the safety. The decocker is used to drop the hammer but immediately moved back to DA mode once in the holster. I decided I really wanted a higher capacity gun for some uses, and decided a Canik suited my needs and budget. They made a DA/SA version of the TP9. I found a clean one with 3 18 rnd mags for only $250. Having a gun that runs 90% the same as my S&W has made getting going with the Canik much easier. I find myself in full agreement with your take on the choices.
You said it! The 92f & the 5906 are the classics from the 80’s. I started my LEO career in L.A, in the late 80’s, with a S&W revolver; then went to a 5906; then a 92f; then a Sig P228 (W. German) as you know, all DA/SA’s. Towards the later part of my career I carried a Glock 22, which changed my whole pistol carrying paradigm. Now that I’m retired, I mostly carry snub nose revolvers. Cheers! 👍🏽
Thanks for making this video. I almost wrote an all-caps response to the last video until I watched this one! This video is exactly why I think my striker fire pistols are so much more dangerous to carry than my DA/SA ones, especially if I want to start using a holster. A chambered striker pistol is super easy to accidentally discharge if your finger gets into the wrong place. I'd rather learn the trigger discipline of the DA, especially since I love revolvers so much, and don't mind a heavier trigger pull. I love my M&P9 at the range, but it is definitely not my first choice for home-defense. I can even eject an empty magazine and the side will rack itself closed when the new magazine slides into place - without touching the slide or slide release. That may be a good mod if you're in combat, but not for the home.
You like strikers? You like double action & single action? You like good triggers? You like polymer frames? Walther P99 AS. BOOM. Your mind is blown, glock boyz.
+viperstarbuck Not Walther really? Wow that's odd. Mines superb, can't beat German engineering when it comes to handgun they're known for some of the best designs ever. I'd include Austria in that collaboration
James Fischer but there’s so many better guns than the M9. My reasons: It’s so blocky, the safety is in the stupidest place ever, it has a safety, and it’s a beretta.
Wesley Baird sure, I just think there’s a lot of much better carry options. I’ve carried an M9 for 10 years now; granted not by choice. I can shoot it well but at the end of the day I can name a dozen that I think everyone should try over the blocky m9.
Rusty Shackleford it was a gun designed in the 1980s it’s blocky. The fnx-9 is the exact opposite of the same gun. It’s sleek, light, handles well, and has a 17 round magazine. And that’s assuming you’re not interested in the more modern, and in my opinion, better striker fired pistols.
I really enjoy your videos on this topic. I've always been drawn to the beretta pistols as well, so I'm glad there is someone to give a solid review and tips etc to carrying this type of firearm.
Lots of good food for thought in this video. I have been concerned about the extremely light striker pull on my Ruger LC9 since the day I bought it. It is my CCW (IWB front) and has been for almost 2 years now. I’ve often thought about an unintentional fire in a tense situation as I have had a few ‘early’ releases at the range with it. Your video on revolvers also got me thinking about the same thing. I do own a Ruger LCR in 38 S&W and am now leaning toward putting that back into service. Thanks for the top notch discussion LGA, you provide a great service to our community. I subscribed recently and will be purchasing some bulk ammo from your company soon.
For a lot of the same reasons mentioned in the video, I decided to start giving DA pistols a look, and then purchased my own. Upon visiting the range for some "new weapon break-in", a fellow shooter, who also carried in the appendix position, had a negligent discharge while re-holstering. Fortunately for us both (and especially for him!) he did not shoot anything to serious. He did, however, blast a significant amount of kydex into both thighs and the experience nearly sent him into shock. After all the emergency and police personnel left the scene, I sat quietly and affirmed the wisdom of this video and that of my decision to carry a DA weapon. Thanks for the great coverage of the topic. We look forward to seeing more great videos.
I have a Walther PPS and PPQ, everything else I own has the DA/SA action. I call it having a brain fart, the DA/SA gives me a bit better chance of not shooting myself. Amazing the numbers carrying Glocks, etc that are highly modified to have pulls under 4 pounds, IMO just asking to shoot a hole in something not intended
Pracitcing the DA is great practice. Also practice a two shot drill. First shot DA, the second SA. I believe this will better teach you the transition. Eventually you can practice this drill from the draw. Don't worry about speed, you are trying to learn the transition. Later on, you can start working on speed, and on moving. It will get to a point where you no longer notice the DA to SA thing, nor will it matter.
I currently own a glock 40 cal, stepping down to a 9mm and was on the fence about this. But this video convinced me on the extra layers of safety. I long for a Smith and Wesson 5906 3rd gen stainless steel, but was concerned about learning on a glock. Now I'm looking forward to adapting to the double action, thank you for the reasoning, personal experience & clarity you've provided. Sincerely and respectfully, Jeremy
Chris, thank you for the succinct video and points on a topic that really does require scenario thinking. Would love to see more thoughts, with supporting data. I’m sure many of us know people who have had surprises w/striker fired, and less w/DA/SA or DAO. Buy Lucky Gunner ammo and support these videos! Thanks again.
I really sympathize with your logic, but what are some good concealable DA/SA options out there? The sig p365 just has so much capacity, so easy to conceal. Anything even slightly comparable?
The "do all" of modern DA/SA polimer handguns listen carefully: CZ P-07 Tactical, it just has everything you would want, great Omega trigger 8 pounds double action 3 pounds single action, litewheigth, concealeble (size of a Glock 19), 17 round capacity, threaded barrel, supressor ready high nigth sights, picatinny rail, optics ready, low bore acces, exelent grip, etc. Man it's just awsome and for a price of around 500 bucks in no rona times, man is unbeateble.
Thank you! Really enjoyed the accurate if somewhat tongue-in-cheek genuine description of the people you drew on for citations. I’m actually quite positive that both they and you shoot better than me.
When I turned 21 and wanted to buy my concealed carry handgun I did tons of research and decided that a DA/SA gun was what I wanted (A USP compact 9mm), the salesman at the gun store talked me into a glock 23, because “.40 is way better than 9, and DA/SA is outdated”. 6 years later I find out that .40 is going out of style, and DA/SA is starting to see a small revival. My takeaway lesson: don’t listen to the guy at the gun store.
+Brett Lewis Yep.
+Brett Lewis What kind of conversation did you have with the salesman? I mean, you said you researched a bit, did you try to broach out comparisons. I'm just curious about how/why he turned you around. And did you eventually go back for what you wanted?
+DainBramaged 4Life It was my first gun purchase, and it didn't take much for me to feel like everything I read online was negated by the employee's cockiness and "life experience". I eventually got a 9mm, but that wasn't until 2013 when the 9mm counter-push was in full swing. I've also got two DA/SA guns now, but neither are guns that I carry regularly.
+Brett Lewis I"kinda"know the feeling. Not to gloat, but my luck was a little better only because I got my pistol after I paid for it. My first pistol purchase and I mean first was a Springfield 1911 Mil-spec, and after waiting fifteen days to walk back into the store, I fork over my cash to the sales guy, take my pistol out of the box, looking it over(fondling it as publicly legally as possible)and this girl who was also working behind the counter looks at my pistol and says:"That's an OLDE gun."She actually shook her head with pity at my cumulative choice of twenty five years study of weaponry the Glock toting little so and so! She had a job I'd sell my brother's most prized possession to get, and this girl comes along and steps on my choice of pistol like it was some bug to be squashed. There is no justice. : (
I don't know about concealed weapon permits but you only have to be 18 to own a handgun, in California all you have to do is have a parent buy one and fill out a intra-family transfer, no ffl required.
The answer to this is simple. We are just obscenely more cultured than the striker plebians.
this is a very fuddy answer
@@harryann1069 I guess you're not really wrong, I feel it can also ironically be the exact opposite.
These days, a lot of people use DA/SA pistols to be "different" from the striker-fired crowd.
@@stevenbobbybills , I carry a DA/SA pistol because it just makes more sense to me, just like carrying a 40. I don't care what anyone else thinks.
@@harryann1069 real men use hammer guns pansies use striker guns YUCK
@@tacticalbt1023 you a beta
Always remember - you have all the time in the world to reholster .... dont rush it. Pulling it out of the holster has to be quick - putting it back in can be as slow and methodic as you want ...
Unless the cops show up and you’re trying to get it out of sight
stopglobalswarming ummmm.... yeah cause that doesn’t look shady at all trying to stash something in your waist line as a shower 😅 I think I’d just put it on the ground and back up. So as to not tamper with evidence or have to be searched and have a firearm on me.... then have to answer the officers questions about why I used my firearm and now it’s back in my waist line. That just sounds like bad advice 🤔
Joshua Randolph suit yourself. It’s a good idea to have a holster you can put something back into without looking.
Joshua Randolph cops are nosy all the time.
Joshua Randolph a friend and i came back from Duncan donuts once, and found a door open, so we went to clear rooms. The cops showed up fast bc the silent alarm had been triggered. We stuffed our guns before they came up, showed id, and we figured one of us had ledt the door unlocked and the draft set it open when we left. So we dismissed the police and nothing happened.
I'm a year too late but the logic still makes perfect sense to me. For me, da/sa is the preferable way to roll . . .
It's ok,
You are a very good presenter. Facts quickly delivered, excess verbiage omitted, and well organized and logical comments. Thanks for posting
Excellent video and I agree with you 100%. I started my handgun experience with double action revolvers and, when my police organization transitioned to semi-automatic pistols, mostly DA/SA pistols. Over the decades, I've shot and carried all types of handguns, but I always come back to the DA/SA platform. My two favorite pistols are the Sig Sauer P226 and the CZ P-09. Yeah, I'm kind of stuck on full-size pistols, too!
Really cant go wrong with a P226. One of my first loves.
I have been carrying a P-01 for the last 3 years and find it exceptional
One of the best gun channels on youtube hands down. Intelligent, well thought out points explained in an articulate manner. Kudos.
Honestly he deserves more subs
well said!
Yes sir, agreed!
indeed, other person with the same name as me 😂
Whenever I am at the range, I pray someone like you is in the next stall. The sloppy gun handling I have witnessed makes me very nervous.
I'm 24 and I prefer da/sa. The first handgun I shot was a 96fs surprisingly I didn't find the da trigger that hard to get used to and love the way it shoots. It just takes practice. You have common sense. We need more people in the gun community like you.
I'm also 24 and only own 1911s, a browning hi power, a px4 compact carry, and a couple beretta 92s haha. Most of my buddies ask why I dont buy a glock, i imagine it's the same reason everyone doesnt own a Toyota Camry. Itll get the job done, but itll never be what you want ;)
@@Puddin127 BINGO! I am "car guy", and have also become a "pistol guy" in recent years, and your analogy is perfect!
I remember this video. It was around thanks giving of 2016 and I was stuck in a hard place with deciding between the G19 and P07. This very video convinced me to purchase the P07. I have never looked back! :) thank you Lucky Gunner
I've never felt better about a decision after rejecting the striker fired Sig I had picked out and buying a CZ P-01 instead. This video sums it up perfectly.
Long live the Beretta 92
92G
except military duty ones, they are trashed lol
I have a 92FS I bought in the 1980's. It's a sacred cow now in my gun safe. Now I carry an Elite LTT or a PX4 Compact Carry. There's just something about a Beretta that feels right in my hand.
I own a Beretta 92 FS Brigadier Inox w/ laser grips and a Glock 34 RMR, and I can tell you right now that I shoot the 92 far better than the 34, and the 34 is considered one of the better striker fired pistols out there. I also feel safer having a docker/safety that allows me to decock and make the gun safe, thumb over the hammer, and holster, and then take the safety back off. And heck, I shouldn't say that it feels safer, it IS safer and far more idiot proof than holstering my glock.
@@BoopSnoot I just picked up the Beretta Wilson Combat Tactical... Oh man... What a beauty...... And shoots like a dream.
It was so pleasing to see your comments regarding DA/SA vs striker guns, and the logic you employed. I am in my sixties now and have been shooting all my life including competitively. I have never carried on my person a partially or fully cocked firearm with one in the pipe, ever. I find the many H&K, SIG, Walther and Baretta to name a few DA/SA guns to be excellent firearms in all respects. I am not the least bit concerned of an AD with any of them. I also find a J-Frame S&W revolver to be one of the safest, accurate and reliable EDC firearms available anywhere. But then I cut my teeth on revolvers and I can shoot a DA firearm accurately. So can all the naysayers and striker fanboys it just takes practice, practice, practice. And this is the important part, you can practice without ammo using a laser with a DA/SA firearm, revolver or auto. And this is by far the #1 way, as proven by the USMC to teach trigger control for putting the first round on target consistently. Keep up the great reviews, very well done.
Chris just kills it on these videos. Super high quality, just the right length and great content. Good stuff!
Thanks!
Yeah - a 5 minute vid I’ll watch without thinking about it too much.
My first gun ever for concealed carry was a striker fire semi-auto, but I decided to go with DA/SA because its the only way I could get myself to carry with a bullet in the chamber. With the striker fire I was very uneasy carrying that way; the long harder 1st pull of the DA/SA gave me the confidence I needed.
Great video! As a military veteran and experienced shooter, i can definitely relate to the point that ALL people (myself included) make bonehead mistakes! I personally prefer the DA/SA pistols for all the reasons you mentioned.
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Excellent review and suggestions. I have been carrying concealed since 1973 when I became a police officer and now as a licensed individual. I started with small J frame S&W revolvers and preferred the Model 40 Centennial. There wasn't a huge selection of CC guns in the early 70s. I added the 640 and now a 642 (which is my primary carry gun, I'm old, I appreciate the light weight) I also have a S&W .380 Bodyguard for deep concealment. That gun is a concealed hammer fired DA ONLY semi auto. Yes, I have striker fired 9mms, single stack and double stack and single action .45s and larger revolvers, but 99% of my carry use is either a DA ONLY M642 revolver or the DA ONLY .380 Semi-auto. I have no issue with DA/SA guns, I just don't currently own one. The "trigger pull" debate is mostly nonsense for CC defense handguns. These are NOT range guns or target guns. The DA trigger is for SAFETY which is very important when carrying a gun a LOT and shooting it a LITTLE.
I had a Model 92 FS. Nice gun, it was the gun we switched to from revolvers in 1988, but very large and heavy for CC, IMO, and it was not any better as a range gun than the Browning Hi-Power, Colt M1911s or Colt Officers Model Match .38 I already owned. So I traded it off. If you have no problem with carrying it...enjoy! It was, and is, a fine police duty handgun.
IMO, persons wanting a gun for CC need to stop all this nonsense about trigger pulls and sights and focus on PRACTICE. IF the time comes you actually need the gun for defense you are NOT going to notice the trigger pull and probably won't even see the sights.
I started as a LEO in 1978 and retired in 2014 and I totally agree with you. Enjoy retirement 😊
Wow, lot of great information in this response. Didn't know the Berettas were in those films b/c they were actually a big deal in the real world at that time. Thanks for posting!
I also CCa S&W airweight 442. So easy to conceal and so light you barely notice it is there!
You have given the best advice of all! Safety first! My sentiments exactly. And you brought up what no one else has mentioned -A BACKUP in case of a malfunction, jam, run out of ammo, or any other of the endless possibilities of unforeseen dilemmas that you don't want in a life or death situation. I carry a 9 mm and a revolver (.357, .38, or .44 special) depending on the situation and weather.
Being a WheelGun Lover. I always shoot my Revolvers in Double Action.
My Beretta 92FS is not a problem with the double single trigger.
I love the Gun.
I carry a sig 229 da/sa every day! I installed a short reset kit and it's my pistol of choice.
I was looking at a 229 as well. How do you carry?
I carry p229 dak I love it
The way I was originally taught and still the best way I've seen to learn to control the double action trigger pull was practicing at the range and dry firing a double action revolver...it helped me greatly.
I'll often dry fire my DA S&W .357 a few dozen times, absentmindedly, with each hand, while sitting on the couch watching a movie. Great for building wrist strength and control.
I have mountains of respect for a practiced and experienced shooter who admits he can and does make mistakes. There are far too many wannabe gun Jesuses out there (and especially on TH-cam) who in their minds walk on water and never commit a gun sin. BS! Just one example of this: appendix carry. Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. AC means you're walking around all day in that condition. Hey, I sometimes AC, so I get why people do. Just please, everyone, stop claiming to be gun safety flawless. You're not. The more convinced you are that you're too good to make a mistake, the more likely you will.
As for DA/SA carry, I support that if it that's what works for a given shooter. I'm in my late fifties and came to RKBA world later in life than probably most people who might read this. My first firearm purchase, while I was still on active duty, was a S&W 642, a DA only revolver. It's still a good carry choice for some scenarios. I would never try to convince a student or a friend to carry a Glock or some other SF pistol just because I do. In fact, I own DA/SA pistols and am increasing my training with them. Maybe my preferred carry choice will evolve.
There is only one Gun Jesus hallelujah praise his name!
And he probably carries an Mle 1892 revolver or some bull****.
Rebecca Dax there is nothing wrong with ac as long as you have a holster
A holstered gun isn’t pointed so no AC carry isn’t pointing at anything. Also if you AC correctly the firearm never should be facing your body.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with appendix carry
@@BrassicaRappa Thank you! This guy's breaking the commandments. "You shall have no other Jesus but Ian". Please forgive him Gun Jesus for he knows not what he does.
Solid second video, I recently went back to DA/SA and I have found that the much maligned first DA trigger pull is not that hard to train through.
I am always amazed when people say "The only thing you need to be safe is to follow the rules of gun handling...." seriously? in what other aspect of life are we sure we follow rules 100% with 0 errors? Brain farts happen... and in gun handling one mistake can be fatal....
+kauxkaux Hear hear!
+kauxkaux It happens to professionals too.
One of the often said phrases in the military when it comes to firearms is this:
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***** Wow... all of this is what impressed me the most about navy seals changing to a striker fired pistol,
Because they will have more hours training with their firearms in their career than most of us will in a lifetime. Honestly it's whatever they want. They want a Glock, they get a Glock. That being said, I love my Glock 19, and will probably not carry anything other than that, but I also can't beat my P226 when it comes down to shooting accurately.
You are so right about the P226 accuracy! It is a tack driving pistol.
I can't imagine carrying a striker fired pistol. Only DAOs or DA/SA for me. I too, love the extra security of the long trigger pull. And being able to ride the hammer, when re-holstering to prevent any interference with the trigger by clothing, and causing a negligent discharge.
As far as lint goes, if lint builds up in the hammer like that, the owner is most likely neglecting to clean the gun properly and routinely. I carry appendix, so a gun will jab me in the belly whether it has a hammer or not. I don't now how it is for hip carry. I do agree with the exposed hammer possibly snagging. I guess if someone chooses to carry an exposed hammer, they must train to properly remove the garment to prevent snagging. Some hammers are probably more likely to snag than others like revolver spurs are than the rounded hammers like those on Berettas.
This is why I carry a XD Mod 2 and why I may buy a XDS. I am going back and forth between the Shield and XDS the back-strap safety allows one to take their hand off the grip safety when holstering.
@@lamarphill1715 hey i have both....i like how the xdm shoots but i feel better carrying the shield with the manual saftey. But my fave is the DAO bodyguard 380
Over the past 20 years I've gone from CZ75s to Glocks back to CZ75s.
Same here. Shot a lot of different firearms but started with a CZ75B in the 90's. Been through the G21, G17, G19, G26. Now I'm back with the CZ75 Compact using an early model M&P Shield as backup. Doesnt matter how much training you have, a safety is still a good idea.
@@Patriot7476 Yep, can't blame you-- I went from my DA/SA de-cocker Ruger P-95 to a striker PPS. And while I really do like my PPS (it's infinitely more carryable than my Ruger is) I have begun a search for a thin, DA/SA to carry again... fwiw
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CZ P07 with night sights for me
@@John-zv1hy The reason they buy a Block is the fact they have never shot a good pistol.
Everything you just said made a lot of sense. I intend to reconsider my choice of carry gun as well. Thank you for the analysis.
Double single action is very underrated, it's my preferred action for the same reasons covered here. Great video!
I like DA pistols too, my CZ 75 Compact is my favorite. I like my striker guns as well but the look & feel of a metal gun that's DA/SA is my preference.
CZ is love, CZ is life
Your first reason is the same reason I carry a DA/SA CZ75 Compact PCR, even though I own and shoot several striker-fired pistols.
I’m a few years late, but this video, and others like it, were the catalyst for my switch to DA/SA pistols for daily carry. Thanks for putting these videos online!
Such a balanced, unbiased outlook is so rare ...well.. almost anywhere these days!
Yep I'll keep to my Beretta M9/FS and variants as I feel they are the best.
I have been a shooter MANY years , I retired from the USMC with 22 years " 18 years ago ". I have carried everything from cocked and locked 1911s to you name it in combat and as a civilian. As I get a little older " and a lot wiser " I decided carrying a cocked striker fire pistol with no safety other than the "trigger safety" to be un necessary and risky. I have read many reports of accidental shooting with these pistol by both novices AND combat vets who later became law enforcement.I "and the wife" now carry the Sig- P250 D.A.O. pistols. I feel much more comfortable with a round in the chamber. With minimal practice I am able to draw and fire accurately the DAO just as fast as I can my Glock or XDS . While I never had the occasion to use a pistol in Iraq , twice since I have been retired , the possession of a handgun has save my life . On both occasions I did draw " but did not point the pistol at the assailants , I kept the muzzle to ground " the mere presence of the gun and the look in my eye's was enough to stop the attack. This verified an old saying that a Master Gunny had " When the .45 comes out All The Bullshit Stops ! "
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TheFew TheProud Brandishing?? Bad idea! Really bad idea. That can be jail time here, or it can be a slab in the county morgue's refrigerated storage lockers. By the time I have a sight picture, I have that trigger 95-98% pulled back, and am ready to break that shot. With me, at the very least, if comes to the point the gun actually has to come out of the holster, a round is coming out the muzzle, and, at the very least, it's going very close to somebody's foot, and unless we are dancing, it won't be my foot. If it's not immediate assholes and elbows the next 4 or 5 will be center of torso and head. If there is any another gun(s) involved it will be 4 or 5 rounds per threat, for maximum expedient threat elimination. You, I, or anyone else can go to jail for brandishing a weapon, even in Arizona. (It's a far better situation when the person you threatened with a weapon is either dead, or {second best} your assailant has very obviously already broken the law, and you have absolute proof, that will stand up in court.) Other states call it menacing with a weapon (Arizona's term), threatening with a firearm, or some other fancy legal term, with a very loose definition, that can be implemented with something as innocuous as open carrying, in a state where open carry is 100% legal. What, you don't think the other guy won't lie, and laugh as you go to jail, and your guns get impounded? You damn well know that will happen. The last time I had to put one in the dirt was to separate a meth head metal thief and one of his friends from my dog, on my fenced, posted, and monitored property. Within 8 weeks the idiot was back in prison again. He just got out again. Hopefully he will go back very soon, without me ever seeing him again. If I can walk or run away, and I am not on my property, that is preferable to the legal hassles involved with a shooting or even a menacing with a weapon charge. I got halfassed forced into the Glock hype very early on, before the DEA's "Frisbee Testing" rounds, and Glock pistols were total garbage. Wrestle with an unarmed assailant, fall on your Glock and your Glock was broken. Slip on some ice, fall on the Glock, and break the Glock. Better yet, chamber a round and shoot a hole in your floor, with your new plastic fantastic pistol from hell. Still better yet, shoot the Glock and watch the slide twirling back into your face. Oh good, I still had my own front teeth before I shot a Glock. Glock carefully, and quietly rounded up over half a million pistols, and replaced them with various "upgraded models", of varying reliability. Some of them would short cycle, and would stop working. After 10 years they FINALLY made a pretty darn good gun, but 10 years of selling junk, 5 1/2 years of exporting junk to the USA, and calling it "perfection"? Perfidious is as perfidious does. Glock's marketing department is a large tank of very slippery eels.
Roha Waha yep, ask Michael Strickland
100% right. So glad to see someone step up and say this!!!!
Always appreciate it when a thoughtful video has actual thought behind it. Some of the best gun related content on Ytube. Thanks.
My first Handgun experience was with the P8 (millitary version of the USP) a gun with an exceptionally tough double action mechanism.
In my time in the military I learned the benefits of double action and why its worthwhile to learn to work with the inherent difficulties of that mechanism.
Anywys, great video!
I carry and shout exclusively p228/p226DA/SA. I switched to this platforms few years ago for every reason you said in this video. It's nice to finally hear someone say what I have found to be a better choice for many of the stated reasons. Well said sir.
You're the easiest guy on TH-cam for a military instructor to listen to.
You should watch paul harrel
Paul Harrell > LuckyGunnerAmmo > Hickok45. Those are the top 3 gun channels,in my opinion, in that order.
@@kj-marslander Nah John Lovell is miles above Paul.
@@kj-marslander lucky gunner > TFB > Paul harrel (his videos are pretty long bit if they were shorter he would be #1)
@@musicman1eanda fuck John. Why no one mentioning Yankee Marshal among the greats?
I started with revolvers, and spent most my adult life with them, so this was natural for me. My first DA/SA semi was a Ruger P89. Loved the design, and the extra margin of safety it afforded, but it never shot well for me.
Went the same route as you, with striker pistols. Now I mostly own Sigs: 250 Compact to carry, 226 for the home, 2022 for the range. I think of the 250 as my ultra high-capacity revolver. Both 250 and 2022 underrated.
I've basically thought this for years and I'm nowhere near a gun expert. My gun nut friend would always defend Glocks but when it came time for me to buy a gun I ended up getting an HK USP and I don't regret making that choice.
Perfect example is the FBI agent (2018-I think) that dropped/ fell out of his backside holster.His Glock on the dance floor. Hurriedly picking it up got his finger tangled in the trigger guard and BOOM BANG went off and bullet fragments hit someone in the club he was at. Bad choice of weapon for being in public off duty.
THANK YOU SO
MUCH!!! You seem to be one of the only gun media guys out there who is firing on all cylinders!!! I am a career Marine who was on active duty during the switch from the 1911 to the M9...Extremely good choice by our military, giving us many more options for conditions of weapon readiness versus safety!!!
I always ask the Glock only mafia:
Do you really think that it would be a good thing if hundreds of Marines or soldiers in a bivouac or assembly environment, in the field, digging fighting positions, building structures, unloading supply trucks, conducting training, participating in physical fitness ALL THE WHILE, carrying a Glock 17, with one in the chamber? How about a 1911 cocked and locked?
Maybe for a cop or security guard…that makes sense. But for the gaggle of infantrymen, wouldn’t it make a hell of a lot more sense if there was a manual safety and double action pull between an accidental discharge and the death or injury to one of your men???
In the infantry, we generally know when we are “crossing the line of departure”, or “going outside the wire”, and we set our weapons to the appropriate condition of readiness. Manual safeties and double action pulls are outstanding tools to give military leaders and trigger pullers “options”, with regard to safety, on one end, and rapid initiation or return of fire on the other.
The regular soldiers carried their 1911 decocked, without safety on empty chamber.
Glocks are good because they are reliable. Talk shit all you want. Trigger is fine if you practice with it. If your scared of not being competent enough to handle it, carry condition 3, and train racking on your draw stroke. If you go through life making excuses for yourself youll find in the end you could have done so much more. Armchair warriors can prove me wrong all they want, it makes no difference. Pay attention to life, stay vigilant 24/7. Its not hard to do, it sounds like it but once you make it a way of life you wont go back to the slumber you woke from. And whenever you are dealing with a gun, pay very close attention to the condition it is in. No. Matter. What.
FiTe mE KidDos
"Glocks are good because they are reliable. " like the most pistols today!
Gieszkanne Sure in normal operating conditions. Every modern pistol is reliable after it's been cleaned and lubed. In more extreme conditions Glock has the edge.
Glock tard alarm! As if other pistols dont work in extreme conditions!
I laughed at your comments because I've said the same thing ever since they introduced the Glock. Yeah, I'm that old, and as a long time cop and trainer in law enforcement, I have always strongly advocated against striker fired weapons for uniformed law enforcement, or any personnel who have the portential to present their weapons on a day to day basis. If you look at what departments are hiring in terms of life experience, stature, and physical abilities, I understand why. Yes shooting scores have gone up at the range, but no matter how you slice it, these guns shoot way to easy under stress, and in my opinion have never been suited for anyone but specialized units who train regularly with their weapons.
I think the safety issue with the very light SA trigger after the first shoot is much bigger.
Gieszkanne you don't get to shoot yourself twice, it's the very first long trigger pull what represents an extra layer of safety and makes a significant difference in gun handling.
Just git gud, whatever you do and there is no need for being paranoid about safety.
LineRat 86 I like that you called out his spelling when "git gut" is an intentional misspelling of the phrase.
So you're saying non-specialized LE personnel AREN'T training regularly with their weapons; there's the real problem, don't ya think?
These are good points. I'd like to add a few more.
1. I think all DA pistols will allow a second trigger pull and strike on a hard primer without the need to rack the slide. I've never had a round that didn't fire with domestic ammunition, but I've used some lower cost practice ammunition that needs two strikes sometimes. With a good DA gun, I can just pull the trigger again. Doing so allows me to take the second pull while still pointing the gun at the target. I don't think anyone really waits thirty seconds to clear a round that is potentially having a hang fire, so DA gives a better chance to deal with a hang fire more safely.
2. In an encounter at very close distance, the chances of missing are small, and adrenaline will be flowing hard. No one in that situation is going to notice the longer, heavier pull of a DA trigger. Furthermore, no one needs SA trigger pull precision to hit a target at that distance.
3. At anything other than very close distance, most people would be better served by moving and seeking cover than by trying to do a fast draw and winning a "high noon style" gunfight. During the process of moving and seeking cover, someone who really needs the light pull of SA can just cock the hammer with his/her thumb.
4. Just as the DA trigger pull of the first shot can require some practice to master, some striker-fire triggers just don't seem to be in the right position for a shooter to pull the trigger safety so that the trigger will move. I've had problems with my finger not engaging the trigger safety very well and as a result I couldn't pull the trigger. I've adjusted to the trigger safety on the gun where I had problems, but I had to adjust.
I don't put quite as much weight into the overall safety benefits of the DA system as you do. I like the idea of holstering the gun with a thumb on the hammer, but I suspect that the day one forgets to take a finger off the trigger will be the day that he/she forgets to put the thumb on the hammer. In a stressful situation, I also suspect that the longer, heavier DA pull won't seem any longer or heavier in making a mistake than it would be in firing a shot under high adrenaline. The adrenaline will make pushing the gun into a holster with a strap caught on a trigger no safer than doing the same with a SA trigger.
Interesting point 1 there, a DA semi-auto is actually more capable than a revolver in this regard. With a revolver you don't want to just pull the trigger again because if it's a hangfire now it will fire with the cylinder hole partially blocked.
"Ernest Langdon: shoots better than you" Classic!
Glad there are some other double-action people out there. We are a rare breed today. My first handgun was the CZ-75. I don't know why, but I've never had a problem with the long heavy pull. In fact, my heavy double-action shots are always more accurate than my single-action shots.
Thanks. It was nice to hear good arguments in favor of DA/SA amidst the very many sites urging us all to a consistent trigger pull. I guess that explains the mix in my collection -- striker fired pistols (Glock, M&P, XDM), long striker fired (Kahr) and DA/SA (yup, CZ of which I have a few).
Yes! I am an ardent DA/SA (w/manual safety) advocate. You summarized my feelings on the matter perfectly.
This is one of the best TH-cam video's on triggers I have seen. I also returned to DAO and never looked back. So tired of internet jerks on gun forums putting down these triggers. The new gun culture of every one thinking a light striker fired trigger is what the pro's use therefore all DAO are terrible. In fact how many times do you hear some internet forum poster say when referring to a nice DAO gun as "It has a terrible trigger". Lol, of course to them, it is terrible because they never shot one, or took the time to learn the DAO. And the gun they are referring to actually has a splendid Trigger. Smooth, controlled all the way through, and deliberate.
Great video. When some internet poster gives me a hard time, from now on, I will just refer him to this video. Thanks for the great info for others.
Thank you. I was able to forward your video to a family member buying his first firearm. I share your views and I am grateful that your excellent presentation has explained what I was trying to say.
Reasoned, thoughtful commentary. I appreciate everyone’s care. Good thoughts.
Reholstering one of the many reasons I changed to a da/sa sig cuz I'm afraid I have more of a chance shooting myself than a bad guy in my life
California Edc just slide your gun in and out of the holster when you buy it to see if anything makes contact w the trigger. After that, practice re-holstering with your holster on. That's what I do at least.
Happens more than you think on police ranges. Heard of a few instances where reholstering was attempted just to have Glock fire because Mr. Officer had his finger on the trigger when reholstering.
An excellent point. A lot of gun handling in general and self defense in particular is based on “what are the chances that...?”. The chances may be as good or better that a civilian could be injured in a gun safety incident, self inflicted or otherwise, than by an armed criminal. Obviously this could be mitigated by practicing safety, but what fun is that ?
They make a striker control device that is just like holding your thumb on an external hammer
So true. All these dudes are in fantasy land dreaming of themselves as Rambo. Accidents hurt loads of people, innocent people too
Exactly!!! So I 'm not the only one that thinks that way. Sorry for the little bit of sarcasm, but it is good to hear this message articulated so well. Good job and thank you.
Great video , I’ve searched for someone to break it down like this and finally found your video . It’s every common sense I have thought to myself (I’m a new shooter) so it’s great to hear it repeated back to me . I’m about to buy a new handgun and have been struggling with this decision for quite some time since it’s a fairly expensive gun (sig legion vs legion SOA). This video really reinforced my instinctive thoughts and has lead to me making up my mind! Thank you for great content.
I ve only seen 3 or 4 of your vids, but your reasoning has been impeccable so far. Excellent bro
This is my favorite firearms channel. Always awesome material, thx for the uploads
I got into law enforcement in 1982. I started with a revolver so firing double action is like 2nd nature for me. All my semi auto pistols have been double action with a safety/decocker. I’d never carry anything else!
exactly why I chose a cz p07
My GF and I are right there with ya!
same
Cz p07 hard to beat awesome gun.
You should go with an American made DA/SA if you are a true American Patriot, LEO, or Military. Sig is the best option that meets those requirements IMHO.
@@jrowinski82 Sig isn't even an American company LOL
I bought a Beretta 92fs in 1995 and I still carry it daily, to me it's the AK47 of the pistol world, it fires every time and I know where the bullets are going
Ak47 are gabarge and cannot hit anything
@@CountryKyle007 guess it depends how much training you have with the weapon. I've trained since the 80s with multiple weapons platforms and to say the AK is garbage is a bit naive unless you bought a garbage ak to begin with. Just like you can buy a garbage AR, or a garbage FAL.
I like the Beretta too, but why do you think AK's are known for their accuracy?
Glocks are the ak-47 of the pistol world. Berettas are the Ar-15 of the pistol world.
Thanks for the video. Just got through watching an active self protection video about the Glock and after seeing John berate one of his viewers comments , I truly appreciate the way you speak to your audience, and the way you answer comments. Thanks 😊
Thanks, though to be fair, John has to deal with a lot more idiots and a-holes than I do.
Really, really like this guy. Articulate, comprehensive, non-pretentious - facts and conclusions are all spot on. Wish I could train with him.
Thank you for your insight. This helped me greatly. I like your comment about the first shot of a DA/SA pistol giving you a little more time to think about whether you really want to fire the gun. There are many videos stating the extra time it takes to fire the first round of a DA/SA pistol could get you killed. in my opinion the extra time could keep you from killing someone you didn't intend to. You don't get a do over. I think in a threatening situation I could get my trigger pulled no matter how far it had to move or how hard it was to pull. These are just my thoughts. Thank you.
Well said! I've come to the same conclusion recently and its not only a good thing for reasons stated, its a great excuse to shop and buy more pistols!
H&K P30 LEM IN 9 mm. Not cheap but a great 2x only long but light precise pull and accurate as heck!
Thanks man. I was already sold on a P30SK for AIWB but this just solidified it. I first came across you via your awesome ballistic test of defensive carry ammo. Great, honest presentation👍🏼
Get yourself a CZ-75 I've been carrying them for over 25 years &
they are a great DA/SA pistol. Good advice to those who are not sure of themselves when holstering a DA/SA firearm. Train with it a lot also, good tips people all should listen to him.
I love this video and feel pretty much the same in regards to DA/SA guns for carry and Duty. I have owned all types and primarily have carried Glocks, but these days I am leaning more towards my Sig 229 Legion and my CZ P07 for EDC. We all practice a bunch and feel the muscle memory from repetition is likely adequate to avoid accidental discharge, but like the video states, life threatening encounters are hard to practice in regards to our actual response. That custom Glock trigger system I put on my gun just might be the cause of a potentially fatal mistake. Also, once you have decided to open fire, the follow up shots in single action with a hammer fired pistol are undoubtedly going to be smoother and faster. Still love my Glocks though, I’m starting to think they are best when carried stock with some sight upgrades.
Mas Ayoob has a whole video on the potential legal consequences of modifying your trigger as well. Interesting.
Thank you for making those very good points about layered safety features. I think the point becomes increasingly relevant this week with the shooting of Daunte Wright. If the officer who had 26 years of experience on the force was able not to notice that she had was pulling on the trigger of her glock and not her taser, what does that say for the rest of us?
I’ve had 2 ND’s in my life and I always follow the safety rules...sometimes people just make mistakes.
Phillip King shit I made a mistake yesterday shooting with a sniper rifle I was aiming down at a target and right before I pull the trigger ... boom!!!!!! Little did know the gun had a light weight trigger 2lbs guy apologized about it but still I wish I would’ve known before hand
The safety factor of a double / single action trigger gun is tremendous, especially for the novice. That is why I recommend the Beretta 92 series to anyone thinking of getting a handgun. Mistakes with any gun can be fatal. Thank you for explaining the safety benefits of the double / single action gun.
I'm with you on this subject, Brother.
Excellent video. I myself am a living example of how easy it is to make one of the mistakes. you spoke of. I also am at the range weekly, have taken many hours of training courses, and practice a high level of safely but in a moment of being unsafe in March had a negligent discharge re holstering a "modified trigger" striker fired pistol and put a 9 mm round through my thigh. I got REALLY lucky based on my stance and it went in and out through about 10 inches of my lateral thigh without causing major damage...other than my pride. The scary thing is I've carried that pistol appendix and can only imagine that scenario not turning out so well. I have, and love, many DA/SA pistols and my experience has changed how I carry. The funny thing is I'm just as quick and accurate with the DA/SA and even with DAO ! Its all in the training. THANKS for the video confidence.
+Jeff Philibert Thanks for sharing your story, Jeff. Glad you made it through okay!
"Excellent video. I myself am a living example of how easy it is to make one of the mistakes." That does not need you need idiot proof gear, just gear that is safe enough. Otherwise you shouldn't nowhere near firearms in the first place.
More mistakes are made with striker fired pistols thank god you didnt get killed
Aside from mag capasity, you have sound points for the civilian use of revolvers as personal defense weapons. As Elmer Keith may of put it decades ago, there will always be a place for revolvers.
I’ve been carrying concealed for 48 years. For a LONG time my carry gun was a Walther PPK 32. That gun has a great feel and I always liked the DA pull being so long and tough. You had to consciously fire that first round. Later I switched my carry gun to a S&W model 36. Again DA with SA capability. Again I like the tougher DA pull as my defense against sloppy gun handling and hurting myself. Recently a man I knew went to his tire shop early one morning to open up. The video camera caught the incident. He stepped out of his truck and headed for shop door and realized his shop key was in glove box. He reached into his glove box and his loaded Glock was in there. That striker fired trigger hung up on something - maybe the shop keys? - and BOOM he killed himself right there. How sad an ending for a great guy. My response was to begin carrying again my Sig M11-A1. I too like to carry AIWB and I feel as safe with the Sig as I do with a S&W Model 36 or my old Walther PPK. It’s up to each of us. I’m old and wise and very experienced now. And I have screwed up in my life with gun handling just enough to know that that extra layer of protection of a DA/SA gun is my favorite insurance against inadvertent mishap.
As for your friend that had a Glock in his glove box, why wasn't it in a holster that completely covered the trigger and trigger guard? That is a must. The problem wasn't the Glock. The problem was the idiot that had a Glock sitting in a glove box without a holster. I assume he also put it in his pants pocket without a holster as well.
@@BillSmith-rx9rm people get too comfortable. No sense in calling him an idiot.
Very good, balanced presentation. I moved from striker, to revolver, to striker, then to DA/SA. My favorite is the polymer frame Sig Sauer SP2022, sort of a "best kept secret" with Sig heft, size, and quality, at about half the price of a Sig 226. I installed a Galloway Precision Hannibal trigger in my SP2022 to provide overtravel adjustment, and the gun shoots like a dream. I still shoot striker and revolver, but always end up back at the SP2022. And that first shot can be SA simply by cocking the hammer.
This X 1000. I got an H&K P30L V3 (DA/SA) for this reason, among others. I love the flexibility and extra safety it provides. The vast majority of the Negligent Discharge videos on TH-cam are with striker-fires guns (mostly Glocks).
Quality Video, as usual for you guys. You have given me something to ponder. Recently a local guy was re-holstering his Glock as he was fixing to leave a restaurant and he put a .40 through a woman in the next booth. Ouch.
“How dare you, you have stolen my dreams and my childhood“ nah, great video 👍 And many good points
You're not in..Skeeyool ..anymore kid😎
CZ-75.........nuff said.
Just bought another one, but chambered in .40 S&W. With the decline in popularity of the .40 they almost giving them used .40 guns away, and surplus cop ammo is hitting the market now too. It's like me with the 9mm 20-25 years ago, when everyone defected from 9mm for the .40 S&W. Same deal with 7mm Mag for hunting. I was buying really nice old .30-06s every week, for stupid cheap prices. I can load a mean .30-06 round. I still really like .300 Win Mag too. Fads, trends, and brand loyalty are all kinda lost on me. I play Vantage guitars, that will hunt down, and stomp a Gibson costing 12-200x more into the dirt. CZ 75s just feel SO nice in the hand. Not overly heavy, just the right amount of heft, to make it shoot like a dream, even in .40.
P-07. 75 is next
I picked a P07 Duty b-series one of the few guns I've put in my hand and just fell in love. Despite some initial teething problems she had common with the Duty series she now runs flawlessly.
I agree, the 75 has the sweetest DA trigger of any DA/SA pistol out there in my opinion.
Yep, I got me a P-07. Carry round in chamber, decocked and always thumb on hammer when reholstering.
I received a S&W 908 as a gift. It's 25 years old, and runs really well. I quickly became comfortable with using the DA mode as the safety. The decocker is used to drop the hammer but immediately moved back to DA mode once in the holster. I decided I really wanted a higher capacity gun for some uses, and decided a Canik suited my needs and budget. They made a DA/SA version of the TP9. I found a clean one with 3 18 rnd mags for only $250. Having a gun that runs 90% the same as my S&W has made getting going with the Canik much easier. I find myself in full agreement with your take on the choices.
I still have (and love) my 92FS, 20 years later.
92sf and the S&W 5906 classic 80s pistols
You said it! The 92f & the 5906 are the classics from the 80’s. I started my LEO career in L.A, in the late 80’s, with a S&W revolver; then went to a 5906; then a 92f; then a Sig P228 (W. German) as you know, all DA/SA’s. Towards the later part of my career I carried a Glock 22, which changed my whole pistol carrying paradigm. Now that I’m retired, I mostly carry snub nose revolvers. Cheers! 👍🏽
Still have my Ruger P95. Won't be selling it.
Me too. Good gun
I used to have a P89. That thing was a tank
I still shoot two of the OLD P85 Rugers. But P95 Rugers are much lighter to carry.
I wish Ruger would bring them back. Great trigger, reliable, built like a tank, and great ergonomics!
A P95 was my first semi auto. Great guns.
This video just made me subscribe. I agree wholeheartedly.
Thanks for making this video. I almost wrote an all-caps response to the last video until I watched this one!
This video is exactly why I think my striker fire pistols are so much more dangerous to carry than my DA/SA ones, especially if I want to start using a holster. A chambered striker pistol is super easy to accidentally discharge if your finger gets into the wrong place. I'd rather learn the trigger discipline of the DA, especially since I love revolvers so much, and don't mind a heavier trigger pull.
I love my M&P9 at the range, but it is definitely not my first choice for home-defense. I can even eject an empty magazine and the side will rack itself closed when the new magazine slides into place - without touching the slide or slide release. That may be a good mod if you're in combat, but not for the home.
Once again I must comment on the excellent delivery great information by Mr. Baker.
Unmatched by most other presenters. Thank you sir!!
You like strikers? You like double action & single action? You like good triggers? You like polymer frames? Walther P99 AS. BOOM. Your mind is blown, glock boyz.
I came to the same conclusion. Bought a SW99 because Walther isn't on my approved manufacturer list for duty carry. Also 400 for like new? sold
+viperstarbuck Not Walther really? Wow that's odd. Mines superb, can't beat German engineering when it comes to handgun they're known for some of the best designs ever. I'd include Austria in that collaboration
+Relentlessv2
yeah they are great. Love Sig and Walther
The Canik P99 clone is not too bad either, and the Elite makes Glock look like, well, Glock. The Bic lighter of guns.
Ha ha ha bic lighter of guns I like that one.
Having used the M9 in the Marine Corps I absolutely love the Beretta and really miss it's safety factor you describe.
The M11 was the same for me and why I ended up getting a CZ P-07.
My 4 reasons:
1. The M9A3 is just cool.
2. Berettas are just cool.
3. Has a safety.
4. M9A3 is just friggen cool
James Fischer but there’s so many better guns than the M9. My reasons: It’s so blocky, the safety is in the stupidest place ever, it has a safety, and it’s a beretta.
@@trentwhitney3046 The gun you should carry is the one you are the most comfortable with. Period.
Wesley Baird sure, I just think there’s a lot of much better carry options. I’ve carried an M9 for 10 years now; granted not by choice. I can shoot it well but at the end of the day I can name a dozen that I think everyone should try over the blocky m9.
Rusty Shackleford it was a gun designed in the 1980s it’s blocky. The fnx-9 is the exact opposite of the same gun. It’s sleek, light, handles well, and has a 17 round magazine. And that’s assuming you’re not interested in the more modern, and in my opinion, better striker fired pistols.
Trent White this is a G Model so no it doesn’t have a safety.
I really enjoy your videos on this topic. I've always been drawn to the beretta pistols as well, so I'm glad there is someone to give a solid review and tips etc to carrying this type of firearm.
Lots of good food for thought in this video. I have been concerned about the extremely light striker pull on my Ruger LC9 since the day I bought it. It is my CCW (IWB front) and has been for almost 2 years now. I’ve often thought about an unintentional fire in a tense situation as I have had a few ‘early’ releases at the range with it. Your video on revolvers also got me thinking about the same thing. I do own a Ruger LCR in 38 S&W and am now leaning toward putting that back into service. Thanks for the top notch discussion LGA, you provide a great service to our community. I subscribed recently and will be purchasing some bulk ammo from your company soon.
For a lot of the same reasons mentioned in the video, I decided to start giving DA pistols a look, and then purchased my own. Upon visiting the range for some "new weapon break-in", a fellow shooter, who also carried in the appendix position, had a negligent discharge while re-holstering. Fortunately for us both (and especially for him!) he did not shoot anything to serious. He did, however, blast a significant amount of kydex into both thighs and the experience nearly sent him into shock. After all the emergency and police personnel left the scene, I sat quietly and affirmed the wisdom of this video and that of my decision to carry a DA weapon. Thanks for the great coverage of the topic. We look forward to seeing more great videos.
I have a Walther PPS and PPQ, everything else I own has the DA/SA action. I call it having a brain fart, the DA/SA gives me a bit better chance of not shooting myself. Amazing the numbers carrying Glocks, etc that are highly modified to have pulls under 4 pounds, IMO just asking to shoot a hole in something not intended
Hmm, I should try practicing with my Beretta 96 decocking between shots
Pracitcing the DA is great practice. Also practice a two shot drill. First shot DA, the second SA. I believe this will better teach you the transition. Eventually you can practice this drill from the draw. Don't worry about speed, you are trying to learn the transition. Later on, you can start working on speed, and on moving. It will get to a point where you no longer notice the DA to SA thing, nor will it matter.
I currently own a glock 40 cal, stepping down to a 9mm and was on the fence about this. But this video convinced me on the extra layers of safety. I long for a Smith and Wesson 5906 3rd gen stainless steel, but was concerned about learning on a glock. Now I'm looking forward to adapting to the double action, thank you for the reasoning, personal experience & clarity you've provided.
Sincerely and respectfully,
Jeremy
Chris, thank you for the succinct video and points on a topic that really does require scenario thinking. Would love to see more thoughts, with supporting data. I’m sure many of us know people who have had surprises w/striker fired, and less w/DA/SA or DAO. Buy Lucky Gunner ammo and support these videos! Thanks again.
Sure the first trigger pull is harder, but subsequent pulls are much crisper than a striker pistol and that does it for me.
Or you can buy the Walther P99AS and carry it in Anti-Stress mode. Now you get the best of all worlds
I really sympathize with your logic, but what are some good concealable DA/SA options out there?
The sig p365 just has so much capacity, so easy to conceal. Anything even slightly comparable?
Px4
92x compact
CZ 2075 RAMI
My favorite, if you can find one is my Walther P99c AS. Actually a 10 rd 9mm striker fired DA/SA with decocker. Only about 20oz. 👍
The "do all" of modern DA/SA polimer handguns listen carefully:
CZ P-07 Tactical, it just has everything you would want, great Omega trigger 8 pounds double action 3 pounds single action, litewheigth, concealeble (size of a Glock 19), 17 round capacity, threaded barrel, supressor ready high nigth sights, picatinny rail, optics ready, low bore acces, exelent grip, etc. Man it's just awsome and for a price of around 500 bucks in no rona times, man is unbeateble.
I'm skinny and I carry the sig P2022 it's a DA/SA pistol
Thank you! Really enjoyed the accurate if somewhat tongue-in-cheek genuine description of the people you drew on for citations. I’m actually quite positive that both they and you shoot better than me.
Excellent video - exactly why I only carry TDA