Top Performers' Rejections From NYC's Top Art School Spark Outrage | NBC New York I-Team
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- At the city’s top performing arts high school - Fiorello H. LaGuardia - auditions have traditionally mattered most. But numerous insiders said new, tougher academic standards at the Lincoln Center area school are causing some of the city’s most talented performers to be rejected.
The new policies are sparking a debate among staff, students and alumni: Should and do audition scores now play second fiddle to academics?
Nataly Santiago is a talented dancer. At age 19, she now performs with pop-star Janet Jackson. Her mission as a child was to get into LaGuardia.
“I had my heart set on it. I just kept training,” Santiago said.
But when she got that crucial letter from LaGuardia, there was bad news.
“I was denied at LaGuardia and my heart sank to my stomach. Like it was like a god-awful feeling,” Santiago said.
Sources inside LaGuardia tell the I-Team that in 2014, Santiago scored a “100” in her audition - a perfect score. Several students and faculty said a middle school student getting a perfect audition score is like winning a medal at the Olympics - a tremendous accomplishment and a sign of potential greatness.
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Why did they group asian and white together? I RARELY see Asian representation in the arts Id love to see their statistical breakdown
Classic racism at the academic level.
@@renangel
Other than that, in the drama departments, when a play is supposed to be Asian, Arabic, etc., it mostly stars white actors and singers.
It's a huge pet peeve we LaGuardia students have yet the faculty doesn't really address it.
When I was involved in making a poster for a Cinderelle (Hammerstein and Rogers) play, the faculty wanted Cinderella (who happened to be POC) to run away from something.
Don't blame me, I was told what I was supposed to do, but yet that poster caused outrage among African-American students.
And there are a lot of other posters; that particular one was sadly chosen by the faculty.
Some faculty members are racist. Some students too. There was an Instagram page that posts POC's experience here in LaGuardia, from any year, that peaked during the BLM movement.
Bc it's wights/Aejans versus POC. Affermadive akshion is very clear about that.
omfg Natalie went to my middle school, my drama teacher and dance teacher at our school always talked about her. i mean from what i heard she was super good now she got to world of dance and works with JLO congrats to her
So she didn’t really need to go to this school for success.
Lmaoo well she resigned as principal so now people can get into the school
so are they prioritizing auditions now?
@@sketchysketch9422 Our new principal, Yeou-Jay Vasconcelos, had been making changes. One of them is lowering the academic requirement to 75.
@@conniedoesexist1807 OMG WAIT RLLY?!
@@milascomet yup
@@conniedoesexist1807 I HAVE A CHANCE
Wow that's crazy how it is an performing arts school& music and they accept u on your grades 1st other then your talent smh 🙀
Dr. Lisa Mars resigned. Let's hope for a more effective principal!
Well I do agree with the attendance part
Well I’m a dancer and I’m trying to figure out how to prepare but I understand. For me, academics outweighs dance because with an education, when I get too old to dance I can still get a good job
Well you want dumb performers or talented performers who can think
Smh
I get that their grades are important but one c is a ridiculous reason to not accept someone
It's a delicate balance. College football players are admitted with low grades and scores. And then they don't learn anything. And they their career fizzles in college. And then that's all she wrote.
At that rate, the school will soon be VACANT
Lol nah
How disgusting! To cut someone because of their ELEMENTARY scores! So gross!
I really hope this changes. I start High School next year (2021) and I have pretty good grades but my absences are not that great. Going to this school has always been my dream and I'm so committed to getting into this school. I'm literally moving with my grandmother so I can audition and hopefully attend this school.
wow good luck! let us know how it goes :)
Lais Souza thank you so much! I'll definitely keep you updated 😊
Lais Souza I would love to go to the school, but I live in Argentina ;(
@@translatorwannabe7099 that's so cool! I live in Brazil so I know how you feel but just don't lose hope cause It's always a possibility u never know :)
Im in 8th this year. So i will also go to high school in 2021
Wait that means 7th grade when they said middle school right
Jazlynn Mack yep
seventh and eighth
@@co1520 wait they only look at seventh and eight grade grades? not sixth grade?
@@flowey6677 yup. Only upper school grades, I suppose. No use in looking at grades from when you were younger.
That's life, it's only 50% fair. At least the principle didn't violate any law. It's her standard to push students to do better in middle school to get into her high school. No excuses for 10 absents? If it were a family thing or sickness, she could of got the absents erase beforehand. There are other schools for art if you don't get into LaGuardia. So if you want it, you better meet the standard.
I Auditioned for LaGuardia and i didn’t get in, my heart BROKE when i found out i didn’t get in💔
baby facexo omg same!!!
I graduated as a dance major in 2000. That was never an issue. However, I have always kept in contact with a teacher there who told me how much these audition process has changed... Probably around 2015... I remember my late dance teacher talked about the young man who she thought was too talented to let go along with other teachers. I remember telling my late teachers how upsetting the new system is because as a student of the performing arts, you will have to miss days if you have performances or rehearsals, or just life. That's just being human.
It's all about how funding. All about money. Fame school ideals are long gone.
That principal is just jealous of all the talent that 'she doesn't have'. Shame on her!!!
Alumni are also Jennifer Anniston and timothée chalamet
And Tim was originally rejected for the same reasons. With a really high audition score. The teachers fought for his entrance.
what’s wild is timmy almost didn’t get in because of ... not sure what reasons exactly.... grades or absences idk.... despite the teacher saying it was one of the best auditions he had ever seen. he then went to the mat and fought to get him in. clearly a good decision (and considering he got accepted to ivy league schools like columbia and northwestern, he obviously was not a dummie) ...
There is a very big wall to scale when it comes to breaking through and being highly successful in your craft. The competition is very tough. However, until you get that break, you have to get accepted to college or earn a living. When I went, you had to have an 85 average and pass 2 tests to be accepted...on top of your audition (class of '93). It's being realistic. Education was placed equal to your craft...and I think it should continue to be that way so that kids can find success either way.
It’s a myth that the old way didn’t expect students to keep their grades. That’s not the case at all but it didn’t stop people from getting into the school that have the talent once you were in the school though you had to maintain a certain average in your academics so that’s absolute bullshit. There’s no way that somebody who has more artistic ability should not get into the school where as somebody who has less artistic ability gets in due to high grades. For some people that may be the only thing that they’re really good at and they’ve missed that opportunity that principal needs to go to Stuyvesant or Brooklyn Tech and be a principal in an academic school.
One "c" in elementary school should never stop you from getting into a school. This principal abused the purpose of this school. This schools purpose was the arts instead it became about grades. I understand that you need great grades. Which she had, there needs to be a balance. Even in college support is given to those in sports so that they can maintain their grades.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Thank you. Everyone is not going to be successful in your dreams. Better for you to have a plan B, than settle for low scores. If you don't achieve your dreams, you can fall back on your academic skills and become a lawyer, doctor, etc.
Class of 2002- didn't have good grades and got in. Thank god I got to go- some of us are different learners and do not fit into the school system and laguardia nurtured that! Working on my craft helped me learn how to teach myself and Ihave been very successful!
Just because it's an art school doesn't mean you don't have to work hard on academic subjects. I go to this school and I'm a Hispanic with a lower social status. It's very competitive I know that. I have many friends that didn't get into this school. You can have a lot of talent but you're not the only one. Let's say if you, a talented musician or dancer or actor, auditioned and got in, chances are you took the place of another talented musician, dancer, or actor.
The old PA Had a standard of maintaining a 75 grade average is what my brothers told me but it didn’t effect your ability to audition and get in if you had talent and it shouldn’t this is an arts school and there are many people who are not “traditionally smart” but art geniuses in art and they serve their communities with their talents. It’s unacceptable for a student with a great gift to be turned away from this chance to succeed as is shown in the interviews with graduates.
This school rejected me six years ago.... it’s scary how I got into art college easier than into this school
As sad as that is, forget that school. You got the dream even if you took a detour. Let's build skills and character.
The arts help build skill and character. It builds creativity.
Do you even go to LaGuardia and know what it's like? LMAO.
骑士黑暗 wrong ! Blacks have also of skill and character . Of course not all of them do but some work hard
@@conniedoesexist1807 You are right but it can also be done outside of the classroom. Also, school doesn't teach you how to sell your art or profit from your art or manage it as a business.
@@aliviablue9085 You're right.
@骑士黑暗 You are.
One-third of LaGuardia high school's population is African-American, Latino, and Hispanic.
I’m gonna apply this year and this truly discourages me. I hope I get in but obviously nobody can promise me anything.
I'm 37 now but I auditioned for them in 7th grade and in 8th grade and I didn't get in. At that time I played the alto saxophone, clarinet, and piano. I was reading and writing music notes, and composing. At the time Thomas Semanski (RIP) was my mentor and teacher in junior high school and he was stunned I didn't make it in. In junior high school I was in a sub honor class, meaning I was a A and B student but math was my C grade that kept me out of the honor course and that's when Laguardia passed on me. Since then, I went on to Arts and Business High School. Went to trade school to get my associates degree, and then went on to get my B.A in political Science, and a Masters in Social Science. Had I went to that school, I would have continued a career in music but it was so discouraging for me at the time, but now I could sit back and laugh about it lol.
I went in to audition for this school in 1982. When my turn came up, I asked if I could play “Rise” by Herb Alpert. Instead she asked me to hum to her finger taps. Because I wasn’t a hummer, I was an alto saxophone player. My teacher at JHS 162 didn’t teach us how to hum. He taught us how to play our assigned instruments. We practiced diligently before each variety show. Anyway, I wasn’t accepted because of my inability to HUM. I played in the JHS 162 Willoughby Stings Band for four years. I played congas on and off since 1984. Then I played with two different bands from 2011-2014. I can ‘t help but wonder, “What could have been?”. I could’ve been a contender… unfortunately, I didn’t understand the assignment.
Thats insane..
@@kailani_o “in the membrane”.
@@kailani_o It is not insane at all. They ask you to sing back pitches or hum back pitches- a good musician and someone with raw talent should know how to do this. They also ask you to tap back rhythms. Same concept.
I know this isn't a popular response, but not everyone who goes into the performing arts is going to succeed, no matter how talented. So this principle is making sure the students also have an academic education to fall back on.
@Ariel Klay, Some of these people in the comment section are imbeciles. If you want an example of stupidity, take a look at beyonce.
The girl has No High school Diploma. SO what she's rich. If you cannot read, write, or perform properly in arithmetic, anyone can take advantage of you. Better get educated as well as develop your talent.
Thats a valid point honestly I don’t know who to agree with 😭
Yes but it is easy to fall back on this later...and people have many strengths. So many do not fit into the school system. School system does not address different types of learning!
I want to go to LaGuardia High School. My grades are okay but I’m scared that they won’t even consider accepting me because of one grade that I had in Middle School..
same..
They have a new principal now so go for it
I’m currently in 7th grade and LaGuardia is my dream school but because of online school my grades have been really bad like I got an F for the first semester I’m gonna try my best for the rest of the semesters and 8th because I really wanna go to this school 🥲
Ok I'm auditioning this year its final grades so dw try hard for last semester!
@@ma1garet104 THANK YOUU
@@blood6973 what are you audition for ? :v
@@ma1garet104 art :))
@@blood6973 ok me too! I recommend you practice everyday! Especially figure, and try to have a certain foundation of skill! Hmm and try to work on some realism but with a twist!!!
I’m 12 and since I was 11 I also want to go to LaGuardia and this is helping to know that I need to push myself.
Why would someone wear glasses with out lenses in them 🤔
That’s been a Hip Hop trend since the 80’s or maybe even earlier. They’re called Cazels.
ladybeast11 wasn't it used to be called Hip Pop !?
I audition for the school back in 1986. I didn't get in but audition for Talent Unlimited HS which was a part of the then Julia Richman HS. I loved my time at TU. I'm my senior year at Talent Unlimited we had a senior dance program at LA Guardia I danced prepresenting Talent Unlimited. After the program the danc teachers from La Guardia came back stage and said why didn't I audition for them? I said I did but I wasn't excepted. they said "our lost was Talent Unlimited gain."
what a nice reconciliation.....
I auditioned, and those people were rude and horrible and so mean. They just yelled when people tried to socialize so I gave up that art dream of a promising school, went to the school right next to it, never felt the same way again.
Lag is my dream school but I live in nc🥺 any advice?
Same. This school would be everything I'd ever want. However, I live states away. I don't have much advice, but I hope what I can give is good. Try to look for schools that have something similar and specialize in a musical category. If that's not possible, try to find a reputable arts and music school. Sorry I couldn't give better advice.
Random Person your advice was perfect thank you🥺💗 and good luck with your school
Intelligence and talents are way two different things and there’s nothing wrong with having both ways is just not everyone is creative and skillful enough to know how to juggle the two together in their one body system.
guysssss i just applied now im really scared but i have to believing myself please pray for me,i have 90s and 100s and is good at dance but after watching diss im just really scared......
She is not the principle anymore
Acosta goooddd
When did they change principal?
Lia Gio
During the 2019-2020 school year
The word is "principal". Learn the difference between the two terms.
Great.
Guys we have a new principle
is he better?
@@isa-ye9ic *She.
Definitely. She made a few changes before giving birth in November and went on a maternity leave.
When did the principle change?
@@liagio7780 During the summer of 2019.
@@conniedoesexist1807 is she nicer ?:
I think the common misconception is this is 100% Performing arts Academy it's not
It's a high school that happens to cater to someone that wants to get into performing arts think of it is a junior college for juilliard only it's also a highschool
They are required to maintain of GPA or they could not attend the elective arts classes it's not all it's cracked up to be it's over hyped up and I think people he did get with the program
Because it's a high school they are supposed to put education 1st and that's a good thing
michaelsmiley15 thank you! I was confused why people were getting mad. You can have all the talent in the world but a good education will never decay
I agree. There is a very big wall to scale when it comes to breaking through and being highly successful in your craft. The competition is very tough. However, until you get that break, you have to get accepted to college or earn a living. When I went, you had to have an 85 average and pass 2 tests to be accepted...on top of your audition (class of '93). It's being realistic. Education was placed equal to your craft...and I think it should continue to be that way so that kids can find success either way.
As someone who goes to LaG, we put the arts over the academics. Academics do help with credits and for college, but our major studio have double the credit of academics.
I mean. you can have economics and english that are 1 credit each. Studios like Vocal 1 and 2, Opera, Digital Media, Painting, Show Dance, etc. have 2 credits. They weigh more.
We choose our electives and they don't require a certain GPA score. IN fact, having an studio elective is required. Having an academic elective is optional, like AP Human Geography for example. The only classes that require a certain GPA are AP classes.
Im curious if you can name what tangible skills individuals are learning in high school that make them valuable to the marketplace
@@bogusshmogus1670 🤣
not much has changed now even
Our new principal is currently on maternity leave. That's why.
10 absences?
That’s more than Ferris Bueller.
I really really wanted to go to chi arts I cried when it didn’t get in that was my dream
If the school was smart they would be helping them achieve proper grades. Shameful school.
do 6th grade grades count? i failed most of my classes in 6th grade but since then i have had all 90’s in my classes and im in 8th grade. This is my dream school and i studied really hard, im scared that i wont be accepted bc of my 6th grade grades :((
It's your 7th grade that counts, plus your audition/portfolio
don't like it, create your own school.
The bar is so low I can get in; I never danced in my life 😆
Nah you can't they know who has talent and potential
I mean it isn’t an uncommon standard for most schools. You do need both: the academics and talent for art school or any school. I don’t think the standard should be lowered. Every school-elementary, middle, and high school has attendance policies. Natalie knew that. She’s definitely very talented! If this door was closed, she can find another school. It’s not the end of the world. But the answer is not to lower standards.
I mean I kind of don't see the problem with it if I'm honest
There were so many kids in my school who wouldn't care about there classes because they were adamant that they would do the arts or sports and academics didn't matter to pursue it.
So we supposed to disregard kids her grades just because she got talent meanwhile other kids busted their ass to get good grades
Okay so I’m always like 1 minute late to school and they mark me absent for that so..... frick
That is something you can control through self-discipline.
Ben is from the STUY?!? 😯
Go Brooklyn! Natalie you will make it. Keep up the fight!
and people complain about education and excellence ...when it is difficult they complain instead of studying hard.
I’m pretty LaGuardia is mainly a performing arts school though? Performers need to spend time honing their artistic skill and that usually takes time and effort. Having a 80% on everything or your not even considered policy doesn’t really make sense.
A place that competitive ONLY takes hard working talented kids. Which student would you want kicked out so she can get in?
As much as I love the arts, I would have sided with the principal on this one. If this were a school geared towards sports athletics, it probably wouldn't have been a controversy.
I disagree- it sounded like some of the students were actively working in the field before they applied and got rejected. I would accept students who are actively auditioning for paid roles or going on tours to have a few absences out of necessity of their craft.
Additionally, school doesn’t always allow too much balance. Can you imagine you’re studying academics full time AND studying a performance craft full time? That’s a lot to handle at a young age, and it takes years to finally figure out the balance. How are we expecting people younger than 7th grade age to have better work-life balance than adults?
Part of a school’s responsibility is to teach, right? They shouldn’t only be taking in the absolutely perfect kids who already know everything. They can take in these top performers and teach them methods for balancing performance and academics. They can teach these kids that what they learn academically can help them be better performers in ways they’d probably never have imagined.
It’s a shame to me that a performance art school doesn’t acknowledge that intelligence comes in different forms.
@@harashe1000 you’re right. I’m wrong. Very valid points I didn’t think about.
@@harashe1000 YES! said this so so perfectly.
alumni also include
NICKI MINAJ - WORLWIDE FAMOUS RAPPER
TIMOTHEE CHALAMET - VERY POPULAR ACTOR
JENNIFER ANISTON - IN FRIENDS, SORKS, MURDER MYSTERY AND WAY MORE
MORENA BACCARIN - WAS IN DEADPOOL AND DEADPOOL 2 AND BATMAN AND WAY MORE
ANSEL ELGORT - THE FAULT IN OUR STARS, DIVERGENT AND MORE
SARAH PAULSON - BIRD BOX, AMERICAN HORROR STORY, OCEAN'S 8, AND MORE
I got in got both art and music in 2005 starting year ‘(class of 2009) I had to leave sophomore year because kids were on drugs and my parents didn’t lie it - but I’m good so it’s fine
I understand why Ben is so upset as there is so much talent in inner cities and a school like this literally saves lives. 😢
"These are children goddamit. This is our tomorrow. "
Why would you give the spot to a student with low grades, low attendance, and talent when you can give the spot to the student with high attendance, high grade and talent? Really and more important the country should be funding The Arts for all public schools, students shouldn't have to compete to become well rounded individuals. As unfair as it is, a principal is not going to make more work for themselves or have the school they have been assigned to go down in ranks which is probably why she set that standard?
Cuz usually the ones with bad grades or/and low attendance are the most talented but I do understand their reasoning
The school is for performing arts which should not mandate stellar grades over talent. One c should not affect you. The point of the school is preforming arts. Why should a no talent student get a stop in a top preforming arts school. They have no chance of beginning in the arts after they leave because they are not gifted in arts. If the school was focused on academics then grades should come first. The principal should have been fired because she didn't understand the purpose of the school. Talent then grades. Preforming arts is the focus, talent then grades. The young lady was talented, you have no idea why she missed ten days from school. The purpose of the school was lost.
You sound very ignorant and like someone who doesn’t know anything about the arts or the standards of the school prior to this principal.. The history of the school is legendary and this is a specialized school just like Stuyvesant or Brooklyn Tech when you go to Stuyvesant you need certain academic accolades to get in there because that is what the school is about and for anybody that knows I’m class of 88 about the standards of this school prior to this principal you had to maintain your academic standard as well once you got in the school but it didn’t stop you from getting in the school come on this kid had one C and it got denied because they had one C this is ridiculous and it’s grotesque and like Ben is saying in this interview he was a kid who was struggling and if it wasn’t for that school he’d never be where he is today artists are intelligent and capable in a different way not everybody is talented in the same way some people are academically talented and some people are artistically talented and that’s a school for the arts. So do your research before you make a comment like that because this principal should’ve never been at that school if she wants academic excellence she needs to go to Stuyvesant or Brooklyn tech and I said before we had to maintain a certain academic average as well so it wasn’t like our academics weren’t important but the focus of the school and the specialization of the school is on the arts.
@@sweettreatsoverload4296 I went to the school and guess what you couldn’t remain at that school if you didn’t keep a certain average with your academics as well so I don’t know where this principal got this idea that this school didn’t have standards this whole thing is making it look like we could just stay in school if we were failing academics know it’s like any other school you can’t fail and you have to maintain a certain average I don’t know because I never got my grades low I always had A’s and always did well in both academics and the arts but it really pisses me off that people don’t get the point of the school and how many artists are very right brain that’s how their brain works that’s their excellence and people are getting into the school that don’t have The abilities of people that are more talented it is just absolutely horrific and unfair and disgraceful and I’m glad to hear that they finally replaced this principal who should’ve never been there in the first place
This is wise administrative standards. Competition in the arts is as challenging as in the NFL or Major League Baseball. We live in a different era and if you don't make it, having a job will not sustain you, you will need a career. Thanks to the officials for pushing students towards excellence in education as a major qnd arts as a minor.
Ben Vereen in the video with all of that Fake rage. He starred in Roots before he began his Broadway Career.
In order to become an Actor you have to have strong Academic skills. Ben Vereen had a hard time getting top notch schools just as much as this young girl did, just because of the color of his skin, so what is all this hollering about?
If you're applying for any Elite school, you must have top notch grades and attendance.
I'm sure she knew this before she applied to that school, AND why is this even in the News? She's not the only person that applies to an Elite School AND get rejected. Now she wants to blame the Principal because of her low academic scores. SMH CRY ME A RIVER.
man this is terrible the school needs to find a another pricible the school is about talent i used to go to that school myself as a art student i was accepted that was back in the days when the school opened in the mid eighties
Idk how I'm just seeing this but this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This is like telling Picaso he can't get into the school because he scored too low on the science section and had 8 absences, even though everyone agreed his art score of 100 was probably one of the rarest things to happen and he could possibly be one of the biggest artists ever in the future. A school whose name and fame is centered around art, should not be focusing on grades over talent. That principal is probably jealous because she could never get into the school with her talent. Thank God they replaced her.
i think she saw this bc i was failling all my classes this year and last year and i got in LMAO
What’s so wrong with this? A bunch of absences and at least an 80 is NOT hard at all. Come on, people. This war on exclusivity is getting ridiculous. Middle school is not that hard to not get at least an 80. Even with dance and work, an 80 is super easy to get. Let’s not forget absences also show a lack of consistency. This is ridiculous. We should just accept everyone nowadays then, right? “Forget competition. “
That argument falls apart when you consider that highly competitive individuals may not be highly competitive in every area education deems necessary nor is there any reason to assume they should or would have to be as the real world generally values highly skilled specialists over generalists
I get told I’m super intelligent, etc every day and that I should be in college, writing papers, a lawyer, etc. (may still go) I didn’t get into college because I had bad math grades because I despise being forced to learn something without proper reasoning to its value in my life. I do not necessarily despise math itself though, just being forced to learn it with no explanation as to its usefulness. Given the advent of the internet and calculators.
If you get sent to the principals office for asking the teacher what tangible value this information has, that is a failure on the part of the school as, as the student it is not your responsibility to be motivated to learn. In a compulsory school system, it is the schools responsibility to incentivize you as your only alternative is literally jail time. You are in effect being forced into a system that will measure your value on how much you can blindly conform to its expectations and then punished for questioning what actual value those expectations have on your life.
As a student who is being forced to attend school the least the school can do is rationally explain what and why they are learning what they are as well as have a clear explanation for how the information adds to the student ability have a more fulfilling life. As well as determine how to best motivate those students to want to learn the information.
This should be a basic requirement for any system of compulsory schooling. The reason this is not done is because most schools are not interested primarily in educating and preparing children for success in the real world but by the standards which keep their funding. Given the fact that the government forces kids to go to school none of this matters. These changes will never occur because their will always be an endless supply of students forced at gun point to attend regardless of whether or not the schools are helping them.
So yeah it’s not hard to get an 80 if you are comfortable being forced at gun point to abide by a standard which doesn’t necessarily reflect any actual value beyond a piece of paper which says you are very good at complying with authorities.
@@bogusshmogus1670 I’m too lazy to read all of that but I agree!
Is that guy.... Wearing glasses with no lenses in them?
Oh wow
I'm glad I got in Frank Sinatra and rejected from laguirdia 🤷🏽♀️
Congrats omg.. what did you auditioning for
@@youllneverknow2416 I got in for vocal music and and I will be going into my senior year
@@christopherpettaway5453 HOW DID U GET IN?!
can you join frank sinatra if you’re going into ur junior year?
@@sircookieknight8566 you can join in sophomore year but idk about junior year :)
How unrealistic are some of these comments? There are only a few seats available at the school, with thousands of students trying to get in. Why would the school take students with just talent alone over students who have both talent and good grades? People are assuming that the students who were accepted have less talent, but isn't that more disappointment speaking than actual facts?
why would it be 80? shouldn't it actually be 70? If that's true I would hope none of the workers there get any time off because I'm sure they count excused absences. Just as much there is PTO and sick days. students should be entitled to the same and not counted against them. Some don't even consider being a student a job until they see how those benefits work.
plus attendance really depends.... I feel like a lot of Hight school standards make no sense. Even in collage all the professors really care about is if you retain information and pass the exams let alone attendance in the course work. Some just do better with self-study and I think a ton of student can relate depending on what they study. majority of arts are self-study.
Nice of Ben to speak out. I understand she is finally gone I hope they changed those stupid rules
Seems like she doesn’t even need that high school. Shame on the high school for being inflexible and missing out on her talent!
because overflowing audition they need best of best. Thats hard
Where are all the Lag kids @
Here.
Hi I have a question. If two of my teachers write LaGuardia a letter and I audition for dance and Art will I have a better chance of getting in? And when are Dance and Art auditions?
@@adizahshillingford5997 could you elaborate on the letter part? Did the teachers send a letter talking positive things about you or something? If yes, sure that would probably help increase your reputation.
@@bambi2442 Yes I had two teachers write it
@@bambi2442 Yes she mentioned how responsible I am, completing all my assignments and how passionate I am about dance.
wow its sucks because it's already a lot of stress and hard work so for them to diss her for her grades is dumb.
Maybe dumb is when you can't get 80 and up in math and science...
Welp....same here for me....talent unlimited is better!!!
Well, your former principal is now LaGuardia's interim principal lol
lmao they’re principal was good and then she left now the school is not as good any more
Mr. Julien lol how so? i go to lag and i’m curious
Well u should’ve been to school. How u not gonna go to school more than 10 times. Through a school year I would get 2 absences
I can understand that you want students failing basic education but a C or some missing days of school. 🙄
Literally half my friends got accepted into lag chill
attendance is a normal and reasonable point of consideration for a public school with limited, competitive admissions
Yes and certainly a reason to dismiss world class talent. 🙄
I prayed a lot
I understand that with this principal and the advent of TikTok and social media that admissions have gone down at the school. Very sad some of the greatest got their great training there. Mayor LaGuardia would be turning over in his grave as this was his dream for a school that specializes in the arts. This really boils my blood. My entire family went to this school. My 3 brothers went to the original PA and I went to the new school.
🙄 y’all don’t understand education or money.
Screw School.
Yes, grades are number one! I am glad to see this.
Those racial demographics changed drastically since the 1980-90s. I remember when it was about 40% Black, 40% white and the remaining 20% was anyone that wasn't Black or white
It's an excellent high school so you should expect high standards. Thank goodness for that! Students with low grades can't expect to be accepted into a good school.
fire the woman who made these descisions problem solved
I think it is correct to consider academic scores also , the smarter the artist the better the artist ....talent is good but talent and smarts is even better ....Cheers Zulu
ON EARTH , THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN ART ! IF THIS TRUTH IS NOT RESPECTED , CIVILIZATION WILL COMPLETELY COLLAPSE !
wrong, there is nothing more important than knowledge
@@throughmyeyes9940 , knowledge is very temporary , not knowing that proves that you're an idiot !
@@XX-gy7ue you prove my point
@@throughmyeyes9940 , you've proved mine , twice !
Nicki minaj went to that school. That says alot
And she's black, which means she knows all the adversity inner city kids face so what she do make a path for suburban kids which the only thing urban kids get a jump on suburban kids is performing and she just took that away!
Black or purple, it makes no difference. They have certain standards and her grades were too low.
First she's not black, she's a hispanic, and second, this is not about color.
This is about Standards and she doesn't measure up period.
I bet that Dr is just mad she never had any talent
They dont care about talent
LOL and they accepted nicky minaj wtf
Academics should be most important. I completely understand why the auditions would seem more important tho!
Isn’t LaGuardia mainly a performing arts school though?
If there are a lot of students who wants to go to that school, why not choose the creme de la creme? Students who have both brain and talents?
cry babay!!!!!!!!
Time to play the race card