Seiko SPB143 Is This The Best Seiko Diver?
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- As a watch enthusiast, I have an impossible time picking favorites. The SPB143/SPDC101 is just one of many watches in my collection, but this could easily be your "one and only" watch. The SPB143 retails for around $1,200 and many of you may be wondering " is this Seiko worth the price tag ? "
In my opinion, the watch is a great value and has a lot it offers. I have seen it compared favorably to divers like the Tudor Black bay 58 in terms of case thickness, wearability, and general design. Although I have both in my collection ( BB58 and SPB143), I agree they are somewhat comparable. Still, there are some pros and cons to consider before buying.
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I wasn’t sure about getting one but now you have clear all my thoughts love you keep the great work 👏
Love to see people taking the time to do in depth reviews on Seiko. Great production and editing!! Paul Thorpe sent me - glad to be subscribed!!
Welcome to the channel!
The grey dial seems to be the most popular. I have the blue/white limited edition. Absolutely love it!
You're absolutely correct my lady. I got your the same taste and the same model. LOVE IT
Your description couldn't be better.
I've been debating this watch for a while..... excellent video!
My SPB147 is a favorite in my collection. I am happy I stumbled upon your channel! Great video and looking forward to seeing more of you in the future.
Awesome! Thank you!
Another great vid. Becoming absolutely one of my favorite channels. Thanks.
Wow, thanks!
Great video! Keep ‘em coming😎
Best review out there by far on this watch. Much appreciated ❤
Great review! I just recently added the 143 in my collection after owning 2 other variants. Their is something about that Grey dial 😍
Great review. I have the same watch and absolutely love it. I recently switced the stock bracelet out for the Uncle Seiko Z199 bracelet and it's a match made in heaven!
You obviously put a lot of work in this video! Great video! Glad I stumbled upon your channel.
Thank you.
Great video - you’ve got yourself another subscriber! Cheers.
Excellent video, thank you. Subscribed 👍🏻👍🏻
Spb297 is also awesome. The blue ocean dial is spectacular.
Elizabeth your channel continues to set the standard for the perfect mix of presenting the facts, offering your opinions, beautiful editing, and the most well spoken and intriguing Presenter ( you !) 😊
I do believe you add so much to our watch collecting journies! I bought this 143 simply because of this review! ❤
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Love this review and learned much about my 143. I can't bear to take off the bracelet as matches up so well and no worries about scratching. Hope your getting good rest Elizabeth.
Great choice, the SPB143 is one of Seiko's best mid-level as of recent (imo). Thanks for the thorough review, and the variety of lifestyle shots which really help see how a watch wears in reall ife conditions. Subbed, looking forward to more!
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Slick vid! Great editing.
Love your reviews. ❤️
Well detailed nice review with more wrist o shots.. Thanks ☺️
Love this watch. Time to step up from my battered SKX’s . Hard to choose from the Oris Aquis 39.5
As an owner of both….Well you know we’re I’m going with this. Great review,loving your channel.
Great review! Thank you!
Just picked up the SPB297 last week. Loving it!
Wow! Subject matter, scripting, on-camera presence, video quality, and post-production are all AMAZING to say the least! Brava! I’m a Seiko diver watch collector (vintage and new) and the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger on the SBDC101 because I’m still hoping to (one day) buy the SLA017 instead; not that it’s “better” but I prefer its dimensions.
Wow, thank you!
Great watch reviews! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
enjoy your enthusiasm towards this awesome hobby. best of luck with channel.
Spot on with the review.
I am so glad that this video cam up on my feed.
It was refreshing to see a woman do a watch review - I haven't seen that on here at all - maybe because of the algorithm idk
What really impressed me with your review is that you clearly care about the things that most of us are looking for in a watch and you got straight to it with no fluff and presented it clearly and honestly
It definitely seems like a good value for the money, especially considering the movement, the protective coating, the hacking feature, and the solid clasp.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to get more watch for the money than this
You definitely earned a sub from me
Aesthetically pleasing watch in every way but I sold mine due to the terrible time keeping. Good vid!
I’m surprised in a positive way with this review meaning great content and very professional presentation.
Great video! Beautiful watch! Thank you
Thank you!
Elizabeth... I just discovered ur channel and I absolutely gonna keep watching your vids more. I just want to point out though that the spb143 only cost 950 and some at 915 with free shipping in Japan. Some retailer might sell it for 1.2k but you can buy it 250 less in Japanese online store or Ebay.
Great video! The 143 has been the one Seiko that I’ve connected with the most since I acquired it over 1yr ago. IMHO is worth every Penny.
Keep up the great work 👏
Do you wear them on straps or the stock bracelet these days? Yes I've watched your review too before buying the 143 months ago
@@saswineey thank you for the support and honestly I haven’t worn in on the bracelet in months. I usually wear it on an Artem sailcloth strap, rubber straps or nato straps 👍🏼
such brilliant and effortless presentation
I promise you, it's not effortless.
My brain is mush, it’s devoid of ability to make an enlightened comment, so all you get is this, and a thumbs up.
I'll take it.
I have a 053 and 147. Love the sunburst dials.
Such a beautiful watch excellent video
Another outstanding review, Elizabeth & I really like this watch! I know what you mean about the drift…my SARB035 started out accurate within a few seconds/day & I was thinking “awesome!”, but now a year later it’s settled to about +15 to +20 sec/day. Hopefully it’s done! None of my Swiss movement watches have drifted like this.
Love the combination of brushed and polish on the handset!
yes, that's a very cool detail.
I love mine . It's a little big on me but I still love it . I got it on sale and saved $200 . It's just a great watch .
I must say it really looks great on you.
I just ordered this one, prices have dropped a little and I just couldn't resist :)
A little inaccuracy doesn't bother me at all as long as it's reliable which it is.
The colour is what sealed it for me as it will go with anything I'm wearing. It's toughness also gives me peace of mind. Apparently the Tudors scratch super easily. Perhaps you could do a comparison with your BB58?
Seems we have similar taste, I also own the Casio Oceanus S200.
Dang. You know more about watches than most in this comment box - Brava! Subscribed.
Great review!! i'd love to see you review a willard reissue
Maybe one day!
Great video, thank you. Tried this watch on. Yes, great size, seems pretty solid. Conservative but not boring. Just not shopping that price segment at the moment. Still....
I love your Thursday boots . I have the same pair . The Captains.
Not a new release, but still an awesome watch. Great video!
Thank you so much for pronouncing "tegemented" correctly! Btw...also agree, Seiko needs to get their act together on quality. I've downsized my Seikos and focused on 8L series movements, which perform at a higher standard even though they aren't regulated unless they appear in a Grand Seiko.
Whenever I have a doubt about how to pronounce something I watch Tim Mosso and just assume he is saying it right.
@@elizabeth_grant i do the same :)
Looks big but good on your Barbie wrist. Please do more reviews at the beach! You have some great shape to show off!
I’m digging the darker finish courtesy of the Diashield coating. Not so happy with the fitment of the endlinks, which have a little space between the lugs and even rock front to back a bit….do yours have that issue as well?
Just saw your video, awesome. Seiko, the King of ULE. Unlimited Limited Edition.
The 143 is a great looking piece. Female end links would make the wearing experience even better.
This is definitely their best diver line under $2K. I have tried on their old MM200, their new one, the MM300 (a bit bulky/top heavy for me, but nice!), the "Willard X," and own a King Turtle. The SPB143 really surprised me with how much I liked it. I completely got the excitement for this watch once it was on the wrist. It wears great even on my bigger 7-1/4" (18.4cm) wrist, and the slight tint of the Diashield coating gives it a nice look. I really would like to add one to my collection, but I need to figure out how it fits in, and if I ditch my King Turtle to put it there (for collection reasons, not $$). The gray is SO versatile, but the SPB297 is probably my favorite since the limited SPB149 and I love blue. I am lacking a blue diver of any sort in my collection, but a blue Doxa or even stepping up to a blue Pelagos is not out of the question. Decisions, decisions...
These are the problems that are fun to have.
Oh cool, I have this watch and I love it. But you're right, the movement is all over the place.
Initially I considered buying one of these but waited so long that Seiko released the SPB317.
The 143 is more refined than the 317, but I like the lack of polished surfaces on the 317. The dia-shield, the brushing, the case shape, and the 4 o’ clock crown make the 317 a bit less refined, but a bit more tough-looking than the 143.
I agree with your point about these watches being restrained, having so many lovely, subtle details. Too many Seiko divers have “in your face” designs especially given their size.
Seiko movements tend to be low amplitude / low stress (balance amplitude, not beats per hour) compared to Swiss movements which is one reason why Seikos are generally less accurate.
I love Seiko, but an Omega coaxial is 5x better engineered.
I picked up a mm200 a couple years ago nickname (bluehole)same price range and I think seiko does well in that price point.
My 147 could definitely be my one watch collection. The other watches in box speak otherwise.
Same sentiment on run in accuracy with my Seikos and ETA based counterparts.
I wonder how the bezel action compares to your blue Tudor BB? I had to have the bezel loosened up on my SRPD because it was so stiff.
Are Ball watches on your radar at all? I love the history of the brand, and find them to be super overlooked, which suits me just fine(less hype/lower cost). The fireman, and trainmaster are fantastic watches, and at a sub $1,000 the finishing looks great, and don't even get me started on that RR second hand, anyway keep up the good work.
yes Ball is definitely on my radar.
as an sbdc051 owner, it doesn't make sense how the price went from $700 to $1200 with very little difference between these models
That's a fair point. My only problem with the 051 is the size. I don't think an updated/improved movement is worth a 500 dollar premium but Seiko had been raising their prices disproportionately the last few years.
Market demand. That’s how. Has nothing to do with the actual watches.
Paid $450 for my 053 about 4 years ago, can't complain at that price point. It was +25sec/d out of the box, paid $45 to regulate it down to +10, +12 sec/day. IMHO, the 051, 053 series are the best seiko divers ever made for $1k for the 6r movement. Nice review, thanks. 👍
I have watches with both Seiko's 4R and 6R movements. I don't consider the 6R to be an upgrade. The 4R movements actually seem to keep better time.
My 75 year old Omega Stainless Seamaster keeps better time than that. This makes me glad that I chose an Oceanus S100 over the Alpinist when it came time to click.
If accuracy if your no.1 criteria then the Oceanus S100 is about as accurate and precise an analogue watch as you could possibly hope for.
its my fav! but i cant wait for the spb297! counting day the days
Yes, that's a pretty cool looking watch.
@@elizabeth_grant tbh I just came across your channel and I literally fell in love with your content the way you talk it’s honest and the quality is really good
Everytime I find a girls watch channel I feel skeptical because the ones I found don't have much knowledge of movements and just focus on brand prestige but I loved your content and I'm glad to see a girl that knows what she is talking about on the watch community.
This was a bit of a hit from seiko. At 1200$ I would want to see a glossy ceramic bezel and a tighter accuracy.
Great review and I'm looking forward for more videos. I'm subbed!
That’s very kind, thank you 😊 welcome!
Seiko is a fascinating company and a great source if one were looking for a "one watch" solution. But I'd choose one of their SNE-series solar quartz pieces for that task. I know, the horrors of a one-watch quartz collection :)
I have a spb143. It’s definitely one of those “this is just right” watches. Could easily be my only casual watch. I wear it on a NATO, but did kind of like the look on the bracelet too.
FYI, if you haven’t checked one out, look at the Rado Capt Cook Mk2. It’s a small dressy diver with a great beads of rice bracelet. Very unisex given the size, and a unique little thing with excellent finishing and build quality (honestly, it’s on par with my Omegas).
I get a greater shock with a $12,000 Rolex Submariner than a $1000 Seiko SPB143. The Chinese can make both watches for $200 or less and still deliver darn accurate timekeeping.
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I agree. It's a very good Seiko Diver. But to me, you don't recognize it as a Seiko diver at the first glance (or did I miss something?). It's really an atypical design for a diver in this brand.
About the accuracy. At least, the watch is accurate when you get it... It was my case (I got it on August 2020, among the first to get it in France). I was very surprised by the accuracy. I own several Seiko divers, from the SKX to the LX, and even the MarineMaster (SBDX017) was a little bit "weird" at the unboxing (by the way, it is very accurate when you bring it on the wrist! +/- 2 sec//day. But not on the table, during the night... It's... a galloping horse! +15 in 7/8 hours!).
About the bracelet... Yes, it fits well on the wrist. It is nice looking. But. BUT! It's the HELL to set it. Did you set it yourself? I'm a very cool man. But I lost control of myself when I try to fix the links. Why not a screw rather this... 3 parts mess?!
I was a little bit disappointed by the saphir glass. Not as shiny and transparent as I expected it first. The hardlex glass, slightly doomed on the "old" SBDC 031 ("Sumo" with the former 6r15 caliber) around 650us$/€ was better looking (but it's... A big boy!). Transparent and shiny. The top is the former hardlex glass of the MM300 sbdx001/017. Beautiful.Of course, the LX is "standout". This watch doesn't race in the same category!
Finally, two years after, this watch became my ordinary day watch among all my watches, from different brands. Discreet but present nevertheless. Not a black hole on my wrist, attracting attention and... Strokes! To my mind, it fits very well on a woman's wrist as on a man's one up to 19/19,5cm (7,4/7,6 inches, my wrist). The case middle is very well designed as a "skin diver". It's not a blockhaus from the Atlantic Wall like ... A Tudor Black Bay for exemple! This is why I love this watch. For its design.
This watch... Deserves its price!
My only regret, not a "all mat black" dial in option. I don't like colors, and grey... It's a color! 😁
(Pardon my English. I'm French, you know... 😇😅😋)
Seiko bug started again now as I have just ordered the new SPB317, let's see how that turns out as yet again its an aesthetic beauty.
My perfect 3 watch collection: 214270, SPB143 and GWM5610 :)
I have several seiko watches and find them pretty decent for the money ,where seiko shines in my opinion is $1000 to $1500 price range . Example, the mm200 models are well price for what you get.
My love affair with Seiko ended a few years ago. With constant QC issues, price creep and an ambivalent attitude towards its fanbase drove me to other offerings, Orient being one. My toxic relationship with Seiko also forced me into the arms of some very fine micro brands that offer far more bang for the buck, but does not have the heritage of the Seiko brand. I still have Seiko in my contacts, just not on speed dial and I will never buy one sight unseen due to constant misalignment issues. Great video and I'm almost ashamed to say it, but also a very nice looking watch.
Great discussion and shots...I took mine to get regulated and its running at +2 /+5 seconds... its a shame Seiko doesn't do this however its worth every penny to have this done.
Did you send your watch directly to Seiko? Or are there local watch repair shops that are capable of regulating a 6R35 movement? BTW I live in the US.
@@tsega60 local watch repair.. cost $20 took around 5 minutes. Very easy job using a timegrapher..anybody can do it. Even in the US..
We need an accuracy update please! Hope the adjustment has stuck.
It is what is keeping me away at the moment.
I have the SBDC053 and the size of it works OK for me, it's a beautiful watch and a bargain compared to my SPB147 or 239. And it would probably list for more if it was being released now, but the 143, 147, etc. despite they're higher price just have the magic; the proportions are spot on and work on all, but the largest wrists. SBDC053 would look better on a 22mm wide strap IMHO.
Nice! Very elaborate review 👌🏻. Good to have a female voice and opinions!
I don't know why but I'm seriously reluctant to spend serious money on a diver. I have Blue Casio Duro ($40 from Walmart) on a pretty cheap bracelet ($10 on Ali Express), and it doesn't look great, but it looks very-very good. When I see a watch that costs 20x or more, that I honestly only like marginally more than what I see on my wrist, it is a no-brainer for me. The only diver that has tempted me recently is the Oris 65, particularly the black dial with a bronze bezel. Also who else was wondering if that is Liz @4:46?
Is that you on the beach walking toward the water?
Yes, that was me on my last vacation to Florida.
+ 2 to - 12 suggests to me a knock or drop. It doesn't take much. My Willard (6R35) was running + 5 on average till it fell off the coffee table onto a carpeted floor and then immediately started running at - 10.
Lmaooo damn man I wish I never read this comment. I just got my Willard a couple days ago and its running within seconds of my cell phone.
About the accuracy, it's quite possible that it suffered a heavy knock/drop?
The service center here are quite an accomodating bunch, they'll help me tweak the accuracy anytime when i want to. Perhaps you can try asking them in person?
Maybe, I don't remember dropping it or banging it. But's every Seiko I ever buy, and it's never my other watches.
I have never bought a Seiko brand new. I always like the used ones that have some stories behind them. Plus you save some money on them. Just watch out for counterfeits even Seikos.
For me, the SBDC147 covers it all. This *143 is a damn good looking watch. I own a lot of Swiss movements as well and agree that Seiko’s quality department is a little lazy. Almost ALL of my Seiko’s got modified in some fashion (mostly upgraded dials and bezel materials). But, the *147 stays stock.
As it should!
it is almost perfect... I just got it few days ago. But this bracelet... if good quality..is WAY too heavy. they could have tapered it at that price!
nice video Elizabeth. Thank you for sharing ! Especially since you ve been wearing for more than a year now :-D !
Impeccable looking (and sized) watch until, for the sake of ISO compliance, they crammed a lume pip to the right of the date window and, unlike all the other pips, right smack in the middle of the minutes track...ugh. (They should have instead lumed the white background of the date wheel...that would have satisfied ISO while still maintaining a semblance of symmetry.) I wish I'd've bought one before they added the lopsided lume pip...the original design was so handsome that I could have accepted the fact that Seikos don't actually keep time very well.
You should review more content and just call your channel Elizabeth's Extraordinary Reviews 👏‼️ Pretty sure it would be top notch if it was something you were even slightly interested in 💯
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Caught that homage to TGV dinosaur in one of the video shots!
Awesome 👏 I love when people notice my Easter eggs.
Nice BB58 !
Thanks!
I’m saving up for a Pepsi Turtle and King Samurai. Seiko has had quality control issues in the past few years. Modern Seikos are not as solid as they were in the 90s and early 2000s.
No Buy a Rolex Sub is the 👑 all diver watches 🙌🙌
I love the Sub, but I will not pay above retail as a matter of principle.
I was really eyeing this watch as I've never owned a submariner and was previously eyeing the BB58 though I can't find the reference I like at retail. Would you recommend getting this and playing around with different straps or just save for BB58? The Tudor is definitely not a must have grail watch, I just really like the case shape and this Seiko looks pretty close.
Because of the difficulties I have had with Seiko movements in general, and this movement while less so, as well, I cannot recommend this over saving up for the back bay 58 if you're able. I would only recommend this to someone who finds the BB58 financially unattainable.
This is a good watch and it looks great, but the BB58 is a great watch that looks even better to me.
I have the 147 and 149 and also have the BB58 in blue and bronze. The BB58 is at least one level up. Turn the bezel on both and you know :-) However, the Seikos are incredible fun and changing the straps is easy and very rewarding. It really depends on your patience. The Seiko can bridge you over to the BB58 or, for some, replace that desire entirely. Just for reference the BB58 movements are now guaranteed to be within +4/-2 spd - adjusted after casing of the watch according to their press material.
I just bought a King Turtle and called it a day.
I own an SPB147 and while it's a nice desk diver it has two problems, the first being that when compared to the original 1965 62MAS it reveals too many differences that accumulate to tip it right into uncanny valley, therefore a search for a modern 62MAS might be better done elsewhere. The second problem is that while it could have been an extraordinary deal at 600-700$ or a good deal at 800-900$ it's priced at 1.0-1.2K$ which is not a great value at all when comparing it head to head with other watches in this price range.
Would you buy it again?
This is my one watch collection, it's possible people!
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Looks as classic as a bb58
I tossed up between this and the SPB213, and ended up falling for the "limited edition". The 143 looks so good in your video though! I wonder if this early version without the 3 o'clock lume pip will become more valuable than the later version.