I don’t think people get upset that you don’t like what they like. However, for a guy who keeps defending the subjectivity of film, it’s understandable that some might dislike when you keep calling shit to something they love. Give your honest opinion sure, but there are different ways to present your opinions in a more respectful way. I really don’t care about what you say or how you say it, I love what I love and if you don’t that’s totally ok. However, if you want a reason for why some people might dislike the way you present your opinions, this is probably it.
It wasn't that people were mad because you dislike a series or that you have a different opinion, it was that you insulted a series that meant a lot to some people and expressed your opinion in a way that demeans the thing that many old dear. Saying "nobody cares, it's gonna be bad" is not the same as "I don't see the appeal of the series and I just don't really like those movies." It was the attitude, not the opinion. Glad to see any confusion that video caused get cleared up though.
I love it’s commentary on toxic online fandom, and honestly after seeing how Star Wars fans treated the cast of the new sequels I don’t find the killers motive that far fetched. Also why the hell are people complaining about meta and far fetched ideas in the 5th movie of this franchise? If you’re not into it by this point that’s not the movies fault
As a true Scream fan, I’m just very happy that we got a new movie. After Wes Craven passed away, I thought the franchise would be left untouched. I hope we get more Scream movies after this one.
John to your point about people being killed in broad daylight...As someone who grew up in a bad neighborhood it happens all the time....Just pointing out its possible
@@billsimms2511 not necessarily. In my experience the middle class neighborhoods tend to be helluva lot less occupied than the hood. In the hood everybody outside all day everyday these upper class areas be empty as hell driving down the street
Also the fact that the some of the hospital wards are empty during the day. Where are the nurses, the doctors, other patients? It honestly perplexes me how unreal some of the situations are. Also where was Tara’s and sams mother in all this?
@@hazelm3002 also spoiler alert, Sam and Tara’s parents were absent on purpose, they’re probably part of the mastermind group of killers for the rest of the films in the new trilogy.
My one gripe with this Scream movie is, though I like the killer reveal at the end, on second viewing, knowing who is supposed to be Ghostface in these scenes, there is no fucking way that person is in that costume doing these things. That's where my suspension of disbelief needs to come in.
Totally agree. There is NO WAY this person would’ve been capable of pulling off some of these kills… Especially that one at the hospital. I really loved this movie tho lol
I thought it was ok. I agree that it was too meta and self aware. The other movies did that too, but this one did it the whole time, including the finale. It also bothered me that nobody took all of this too seriously. People were murdered and life continued normally. Can anyone be traumatized?
I really enjoyed the movie. It brought some freshness but also been faithful to the lore and history of the franchise. Definitely exceeded my expectations.
Based on some of the dialogue it felt like they were tearing apart the Star Wars fandom by mentioning Rian Johnson, Stab 8 is where the franchise lost its touch, bringing back legacy characters, fans losing their minds when they try the smallest thing different, etc and I loved that
It was a missed opportunity to not bring back Stu as the main killer. It would have been perfect to honnor Wes Craven since it was his original idea for the 3rd one.(to bring back stu)I overall enjoyed the film, but the killers is where it lacked for me.
@@rickw1066 if you read Wes Craven's book "The Man and His Nightmares" he cleary talks about how he wanted to bring Stu back for the 3rd film and a couple weeks before filming started, it was scrapped due to real life tragic events around that time.
@@rickw1066 williamson wasn't involved in scream 3 outline of a basic outline that due to columbine they didn't even follow all that well (followed what they could but that's it).
It’s also CRAZY that they absolutely wasted Stu’s nephew Vince Schneider, the bully-like guy that was killed outside the bar. That was a HUGE missed opportunity for something.
I have no interest in Scream but I have to defend that setting that John said. There was a real life unsolved murder in Florida that happened in broad daylight with a Machete in a populated neighborhood in front of a house and only one person managed to get a somewhat glance at the killer. Had I not known that I would've agreed with you John but knowing this makes that setting you presented completely plausible.
I thought I was the only one who thought Judy Hicks being killed in broad daylight was strange. I mean no one saw that. Wes getting killed was drawn out pretty long considering Judy called the police prior to getting to the house.
I get you're not rating them but making a joke, but i read it as you ranking them at first glance so imma role with it like you actually were: 1. Scream 1 (tied) 1. Scream 2 (tied) 2. Scream 4 3. Scream 3 4. Scream 5 (Note: positions 2-4 are all very close in overall enjoyment)
I liked it but there were a few bits that stretched belief. Someone seemingly immortal. An OTT ending. I’d love to go in to more but no spoilers. Overall it was fun but it did not match the hype. Very bloody too.
The they always come back is a staple of the franchise. The film is better if you actually watched all the old ones as a result. Ghostface tends to always be OP.
This scream was as good as you can get with a reboot/sequel years later, captured the essence of the franchise. Leaning into the tropes of slasher films is what it’s all about
In my humble personal opinion, the 4th Scream movie almost used this exact same motive with one of the killers and they actually did it in a more memorable way. They used the legacy characters appropriate and they weren't pushed into the narrative for the sake of it, the only one who felt earned to be in this fifth movie in terms of story was Dewey. I also felt there were so little kills, and the ones we saw were so small and fast that it didn't really feel as if we saw a setpiece, with the one exception of two deaths who felt very emotional. But that's about it, all the other kills were so -blink-and-you-miss it that I was like "huh? okay" That being said, seeing a Scream movie again in a theatre after so long was just a blast, even with all the flaws. I would gladly see a sixth one over time.
The first Scream film not directed by Wes Craven, who passed away in August of 2015 from cancer. The character of Wes was named in honor of him and the film is dedicated to him in the end credits. Much like in Scream 3, Sidney Prescott is not prominently featured in the first part of the film Debut film of French model Sonia Ben Ammar, who is well-known in France. David Arquette said he was excited to regrow his now-famous mustache for his role as Dewey Riley. Dylan Minette was born 9 days after the original Scream came out in theaters in December 1996. The area code for Woodsboro is shown to be 707. This is the area code for Santa Rosa, where the original Scream was filmed. Despite playing their mother, Heather Matarazzo (Martha Meeks) is 12 years older than Jasmin Savoy-Brown (Mindy), and 14 years older than Mason Gooding (Chad) A street sign reading "Elm St." is visible at one point. This is one of several references to Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street in the Scream films, including the location of the Prescott house in the original, as well as Wes Craven's famous cameo as school janitor Fred, who wears a very familiar sweater. Screenwriter James Vanderbilt's wife's name is Amber Freeman. This is also the name of a character in this movie. 31-year-old Melissa Barrera plays 23-year-old Sam. The first Scream movie in which the opening victim survives. First Scream film where neither of the killers have a personal motive against Sidney Prescott. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds' song "Red Right Hand", which had prominently featured in the first three Scream films, returns to the franchise after being absent from Scream 4 (2011). It's heard when Ghostface turns on Vince's car before killing him. The first Scream film to not feature an opening murder. The way how Richie gets slashed on the arm is similar to how Derek and Jill got slashed on the arm in Scream 2 and 4. The film's end credits font is the same one used in the credits for the first three movies. First Scream to feature all deaths be a result of knife or firearm. Tara is the second Scream series character to be stabbed through the hand by Ghostface following Olivia Morris in Scream 4 (2011).
@@joshuarobertson8866 I mean I get it. But it’s just like, I watch them kill everyone including a veteran for that motive? Get me something else. Something better along with that. Like maybe that’s true about one but the other something else.
@@j.j.q1379 killing Dewey was done to bring Sydney back e.g... when she said she had kids I knew she wasnt going to run back there. So Dewey's death was the only way to get her back there e.g... that was the motive in killing Dewey. Plus it's in line with Scream -dont trust anyone because people are crazy out there. I think because of the separation between the films it's not an issues because it kind of parallels current toxic fandoms The last film was in 2011.
I agree with you Jennifer. The original movie had motives that made sense to an extent. This movie was like.. really? That’s the motive now? Like yes it can “be explained”. I “get it”. I just think it’s dumb. I would have bought it better if the characters doing it were the brother sister who were obsessed with the movies. That would make sense with this motive. But there’s literally ZERO connection between the 2 killers.. how do they even know each other? The original they were best friends. Like this is like what? Maybe make it where it’s the older sister who’s becoming her father. Or make it the younger sister who wants to connect with her real dad. Or make it the mom of the daughters who blame them for making the father leave. Idk… ANYTHING Woulda been better than what it was lol
I feel the twins got off too easily and at the very least one of them should have been attacked more viciously. Other than that I really loved seeing Ghostface again, especially with just how brutal they were with those killings. Gonna watch this as many times as I can in Dolby.
I had fun watching Scream, now all I want is for Hollywood to not make any more sequels to these 80s and 90s horror classics. Its always best to let "sleeping dogs" do what they do lol.
@@shwonsh i didn't mind him dying. I'm rather sick of the same people always surviving. But after his death, it just got so dumb. Why would they stop for an inhaler? Just get out of dodge and get one At the Walgreens in that town. But they cancel the party just to get an inhaler and all the kids didn't find that odd. That last act was so bad.
@@scottaudetat3090 Well that i guess is my problem. I like Dewey more than most people do and the fact he's the only male in all of the movies, but let's just kill all of the white dudes and have a bunch of woman only. The only guy that lived was the black jock who got attacked and that was it..like whatever.
@@scottaudetat3090 Sam asked Tara if she could make it without her inhaler. Tara said she needed it. That's why they stopped, and couldn't just leave. I don't know about the Walgreens, but as for the party, they DID tell everyone the killer is targeting the house.
i enjoyed it im a big fan of scream but like you said there are moments of disbelief in this franchise like in this i couldn't believe that there was only one cop at the hospital along with the attacked girl (where was everybody else????
I've seen a lot of it will be like *why the hell is the hospital empty*, and I thought the same thing on my first viewing, but on my second I remembered it's established earlier on that Judy moves her to a private floor of the hospital. That's why it's empty aside from her.
@@jcaashby3 No it was perfectly lit and very well staffed... Until a character is put on a private floor (for their own protection, of course 🙄) and then Ghostface shuts the lights off. 🤷♂️
@@NeelTheSphynx Right lol! I just watched Scream 4 for the first time and at the end in the hospital noted how freaking dark and understaffed that hospital was. Not the first horror movie like this...Halloween 2 comes to mind.
My biggest gripe with the movie was when Chad clocked the killer in the face twice with that candlestick and they just kept it moving. Nah sorry, Chad is easily 180 lbs of muscle, whoever was under that mask would be concussed at the least, unconscious most likely. I know they do it in all the movies so it's not a big deal but it was just so egrious this time cuz im pretty sure he's the biggest guy we've ever had fight Ghostface and get a hit in.
Huge scream fan here, I need more time to stew on it to finalize my opinion but my initial reaction is that it was the weakest installment of the movies. That's not to say it was bad - i liked it a lot, but i enjoyed the first 4 movies more. There are a LOT of things i love about the film, but i also didn't feel at all attached to (most of) the new cast, save for the sister, mindy, and jack quaid's character. For a movie that's all about passing the torch onto a new generation, it spent a surprisingly little amount of time with the majority of that new generation. There just wasn't enough scenes with most of them and the scenes they were in didn't last long enough for me to soak them in enough. Same goes for our new sidney (aka sidney 3.0) - she just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll like her more in a hypothetical scream 6, but here she's... fine, but not magnetic like neve's sidney was in the first 3 screams. I did love the extra goriness in the kills, killer reveals are just as scenery chewing as ever, if not even more so (this is a good thing), and that one kill in the house had the best suspense build up I've seen in a loooong time. Solid 7.5/10, but for me - the other 4 are unfortunately all 8s and 9s. Yes... even scream 3 (though that one's just barely an 8).
Comment for the scene John talks about, That broad daylight kill was one of the best just because of the setting it was in. Being in broad daylight and extremely public, made it extremely scary.
Okay you say you like the first one, and your gripes with the new one is the disbeliefs in it,which every movie has, the scene with tatum was a disbelief and no way a garage can kill you and hold you in air without breaking, and my friend don, t notice I, m gone who I came to the party with,you nip picking cause you don’t like the franchise, which is okay, but nip picking a movie, just ludicrous, every movie has disbeliefs.
Yeah he's like not a fan at all so his opinion is not useful here at all. Same with him and his Matrix review (and this movie is a lot better than that btw)
Maybe I’ll change my mind upon a rewatch, but I at no point thought the movie was too meta. Actually, having sat down and rewatched the franchise this week, I thought the meta nature of this one was consistent with the others. After all, isn’t the whole point of the Scream franchise is to serve as a self-parody of the horror genre and those that love it. I mean they literally lay out the rules of each movie within each movie based on the movies that have been made before. They also have a horror franchise that serves as a Scream stand-in within the world of Scream. The only way I think it could’ve gotten more meta was if they chose to call the Stab franchise “Scream” as that would have made it abundantly clear to anyone watching that Wes Craven was talking about them(that is if somehow they were in doubt).
It's pretty funny because they tell you multiple times throughout the movie that it's a requel, it is literally a rehashed version of the 1st movie just with new characters and actual consequences. Amber and Richie were obsessed fans of Stab that let it get to their head just like what happened with Billy and Stu. Tara and Mindy are easily the best new characters added, I expect Tara to fill the role of Sydney in a way and Mindy to fill the role of Randy.
buddy this movie sets up the parameters of people surviving brutal attacks. this is why people are getting mad at you because you clearly don’t know a thing about the franchise and continue to crap on it.
I agree with your initial take coming out of the theaters. They are asking us to suspend disbelief far too much with this one. It was God awful. Half of the setups for deaths are as idiotic as it gets. No chance that people with half a brain would have made the decisions made by so many characters in this movie. I get that people need to die in a slasher, but ATLEAST make it make sense why they are doing the things they do. Putting a witty line or joke before someone makes an unreasonable decision doesn't suddenly make it less ridiculous. I was very disappointed 😞
I was actually excited about a non Wes Craven directed Scream film. I love Wes and he’s a genius but I wanted to see what a new creative team could do with the property. Even though I really enjoyed Scream 2022, I was disappointed because they didn’t do anything different. They just did what Wes would’ve done.
These actors were god awful in this movie, I truly feel these people who love this movie or like it are blinded by the gore, kills and how great ghostface was, this movie was bad
So over-hyped by who? Besides the early reactions, I haven't really heard anyone talking much, about this film. It's not like awareness of it was everywhere, and people wouldn't shut up about it. Advance tickets weren't exactly a hot seller, to my knowledge. So how was the film over-hyped? It wasn't.
@@christopherbrown5023 bro every early review “this is the best since the original”. Every early review raved about this movie. Yes it was over hyped. It’s the 4th best in the franchise.
I felt this was the Wish version of the original. The 3rd act monlogue by the killers was the poor version of Billy and Stu's monologs of the original. 5cream is my 2nd favorite sequel. My favorite will always be the original followed by Scream 2.
@@ghostface9369 it didnt piss me off, it was more like meh. They didnt do anythin new, it was more like copy and paste jus with some decent kills. 🤷 the cast was poor imitations of the original aside for the legacy characters. I felt like Richie and Amber were trying to do there best impersonations of Billy & Stu from the original esp. w/ there 3rd act monlogue
scream 1 to 4 are classic masterpiece. This new one was a trainwreck. Poorly written, terribly directed, bad acting and no set pieces. Very cheap, few kills and bad characters. too much meta commentary and it lacks all the magic of the previous movies. The fake CGI knife was terrible the movie wasn't gory or brutal at all. They killed off two amazing characters in such an anti eroic way they Shit on the legacy of the franchise.
@@captainmarvelous7678 nope 3 was more focused around comedy but it wasn't as silly as this one. It still had incredibile direction, great set pieces, iconic acting, smart meta elements and more action.
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I don’t think people get upset that you don’t like what they like.
However, for a guy who keeps defending the subjectivity of film, it’s understandable that some might dislike when you keep calling shit to something they love.
Give your honest opinion sure, but there are different ways to present your opinions in a more respectful way.
I really don’t care about what you say or how you say it, I love what I love and if you don’t that’s totally ok.
However, if you want a reason for why some people might dislike the way you present your opinions, this is probably it.
True that's what I don't like about John he either blindly loves something or disrespectfully hates another thing.
It wasn't that people were mad because you dislike a series or that you have a different opinion, it was that you insulted a series that meant a lot to some people and expressed your opinion in a way that demeans the thing that many old dear. Saying "nobody cares, it's gonna be bad" is not the same as "I don't see the appeal of the series and I just don't really like those movies." It was the attitude, not the opinion. Glad to see any confusion that video caused get cleared up though.
It just made 30 million I wouldn’t say nobody cares I can’t wait for the Batman but not every big fan base comes from super hero films!
I love it’s commentary on toxic online fandom, and honestly after seeing how Star Wars fans treated the cast of the new sequels I don’t find the killers motive that far fetched.
Also why the hell are people complaining about meta and far fetched ideas in the 5th movie of this franchise? If you’re not into it by this point that’s not the movies fault
i agree with you, But I loved it I've watched it 3 times at the movie theaters and going for more
As a true Scream fan, I’m just very happy that we got a new movie. After Wes Craven passed away, I thought the franchise would be left untouched. I hope we get more Scream movies after this one.
I saw the Movie on Friday and I actually really liked it.
Just out of the cinima now after seeing scream 5.damn I really enjoyed it.Sid and gale kick fucking ass. All hail the queen Neve Campbell
I loved the meta-reference for who the killers were.
John to your point about people being killed in broad daylight...As someone who grew up in a bad neighborhood it happens all the time....Just pointing out its possible
Yeah but the neighborhood that the person was killed in Scream 2022 was upper middle class. Someone would have noticed something lol
@@billsimms2511 not necessarily. In my experience the middle class neighborhoods tend to be helluva lot less occupied than the hood. In the hood everybody outside all day everyday these upper class areas be empty as hell driving down the street
Also the fact that the some of the hospital wards are empty during the day. Where are the nurses, the doctors, other patients? It honestly perplexes me how unreal some of the situations are. Also where was Tara’s and sams mother in all this?
@@hazelm3002 the hospitals weren’t empty during the day, and they moved Tara to a private floor. It’s literally stated in the film.
@@hazelm3002 also spoiler alert, Sam and Tara’s parents were absent on purpose, they’re probably part of the mastermind group of killers for the rest of the films in the new trilogy.
My one gripe with this Scream movie is, though I like the killer reveal at the end, on second viewing, knowing who is supposed to be Ghostface in these scenes, there is no fucking way that person is in that costume doing these things. That's where my suspension of disbelief needs to come in.
Totally agree. There is NO WAY this person would’ve been capable of pulling off some of these kills… Especially that one at the hospital. I really loved this movie tho lol
@@aaronhanson4683 Also Ghostface is like a whole foot taller but whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@aaronhanson4683 Still, I've been saying it since the trailer, Ghostface looks sooooo good in this movie.
Exactly!
John … it’s the woodsboro police what do you expect
“One involving a neck” yes we all instantly knew what that meant. That was rough 😳
Imo
Scream 1 = 🐐
Scream 2 = 😊
Scream 3 = 😕
Scream 4 = 😊
Scream 5 = 😊
😁
Scream 5 =💩 for the ending
I have to disagree about the police arriving. The two times that I’ve called them it took well over 20 minutes for them to arrive.
Agreed except for the one time it was the sheriff calling them. They'd cause multiple accidents running to her aid without a thought.
I thought it was ok. I agree that it was too meta and self aware. The other movies did that too, but this one did it the whole time, including the finale. It also bothered me that nobody took all of this too seriously. People were murdered and life continued normally. Can anyone be traumatized?
I really enjoyed the movie. It brought some freshness but also been faithful to the lore and history of the franchise. Definitely exceeded my expectations.
Scream 5 is exactly abt toxic fandoms
Ghostface was savage like Michael Myers in Halloween kills
Based on some of the dialogue it felt like they were tearing apart the Star Wars fandom by mentioning Rian Johnson, Stab 8 is where the franchise lost its touch, bringing back legacy characters, fans losing their minds when they try the smallest thing different, etc and I loved that
They were making fun of Star Wars fans
@@jeremyingalls7565 Clesrly they were
Scream 2 is great. I personally like it more than the first. Still looking forward to seeing this eventually.
It was a missed opportunity to not bring back Stu as the main killer. It would have been perfect to honnor Wes Craven since it was his original idea for the 3rd one.(to bring back stu)I overall enjoyed the film, but the killers is where it lacked for me.
It wasn’t Wes’ idea it was Williamson’s and there is a reason they didn’t go with that plot lol
@@rickw1066 if you read Wes Craven's book "The Man and His Nightmares" he cleary talks about how he wanted to bring Stu back for the 3rd film and a couple weeks before filming started, it was scrapped due to real life tragic events around that time.
@@rickw1066 williamson wasn't involved in scream 3 outline of a basic outline that due to columbine they didn't even follow all that well (followed what they could but that's it).
It’s also CRAZY that they absolutely wasted Stu’s nephew Vince Schneider, the bully-like guy that was killed outside the bar. That was a HUGE missed opportunity for something.
@@ravenlodus agree, although it may have been too much throwback besides the Billy Loomis cameos (which were surprising and executed perfectly)
I have no interest in Scream but I have to defend that setting that John said.
There was a real life unsolved murder in Florida that happened in broad daylight with a Machete in a populated neighborhood in front of a house and only one person managed to get a somewhat glance at the killer.
Had I not known that I would've agreed with you John but knowing this makes that setting you presented completely plausible.
I thought I was the only one who thought Judy Hicks being killed in broad daylight was strange. I mean no one saw that. Wes getting killed was drawn out pretty long considering Judy called the police prior to getting to the house.
That's happened numerous times in the series before.
I saw it yesterday and definitely loved it, wasn’t great but it’s a fun movie for what it is
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I get you're not rating them but making a joke, but i read it as you ranking them at first glance so imma role with it like you actually were:
1. Scream 1 (tied)
1. Scream 2 (tied)
2. Scream 4
3. Scream 3
4. Scream 5
(Note: positions 2-4 are all very close in overall enjoyment)
Yeah, all the Screams are very meta and half comedy. Ghostface does a lot to believe as well
I just got out of it in Dolby. I ever ever saw the other films but I do like this and it makes me intrigued to watch the rest of the series.!
The vacant hospital is more incredible than the vacant neighborhood.
the hospital is empty because Woodsboro has the best doctors in the world. They saved Tara for crying out loud
@@megan2484 lol
It wasn’t vacant though, they said in the movie Sam’s entire floor was blocked off for her minus police protection.
@@LostUtopiaFilms lol so they made it vacant.
I liked it but there were a few bits that stretched belief. Someone seemingly immortal. An OTT ending. I’d love to go in to more but no spoilers. Overall it was fun but it did not match the hype. Very bloody too.
The they always come back is a staple of the franchise.
The film is better if you actually watched all the old ones as a result.
Ghostface tends to always be OP.
Just like when not a single person was in the hospital when ghostface was there
This scream was as good as you can get with a reboot/sequel years later, captured the essence of the franchise. Leaning into the tropes of slasher films is what it’s all about
Enjoyed it.
This movie was okay, but I left disappointed. It was serviceable, but the old crew should have stayed home, besides Dewey.
In my humble personal opinion, the 4th Scream movie almost used this exact same motive with one of the killers and they actually did it in a more memorable way. They used the legacy characters appropriate and they weren't pushed into the narrative for the sake of it, the only one who felt earned to be in this fifth movie in terms of story was Dewey. I also felt there were so little kills, and the ones we saw were so small and fast that it didn't really feel as if we saw a setpiece, with the one exception of two deaths who felt very emotional. But that's about it, all the other kills were so -blink-and-you-miss it that I was like "huh? okay" That being said, seeing a Scream movie again in a theatre after so long was just a blast, even with all the flaws. I would gladly see a sixth one over time.
I'm not a horror guy but Scream 5 was good.
As a 90’s kid. It made my heart smile. This was my intro to horror in my era. The sequels were meh. I do like 3. But this one made me happy.
The first Scream film not directed by Wes Craven, who passed away in August of 2015 from cancer. The character of Wes was named in honor of him and the film is dedicated to him in the end credits.
Much like in Scream 3, Sidney Prescott is not prominently featured in the first part of the film
Debut film of French model Sonia Ben Ammar, who is well-known in France.
David Arquette said he was excited to regrow his now-famous mustache for his role as Dewey Riley.
Dylan Minette was born 9 days after the original Scream came out in theaters in December 1996.
The area code for Woodsboro is shown to be 707. This is the area code for Santa Rosa, where the original Scream was filmed.
Despite playing their mother, Heather Matarazzo (Martha Meeks) is 12 years older than Jasmin Savoy-Brown (Mindy), and 14 years older than Mason Gooding (Chad)
A street sign reading "Elm St." is visible at one point. This is one of several references to Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street in the Scream films, including the location of the Prescott house in the original, as well as Wes Craven's famous cameo as school janitor Fred, who wears a very familiar sweater.
Screenwriter James Vanderbilt's wife's name is Amber Freeman. This is also the name of a character in this movie.
31-year-old Melissa Barrera plays 23-year-old Sam.
The first Scream movie in which the opening victim survives.
First Scream film where neither of the killers have a personal motive against Sidney Prescott.
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds' song "Red Right Hand", which had prominently featured in the first three Scream films, returns to the franchise after being absent from Scream 4 (2011). It's heard when Ghostface turns on Vince's car before killing him.
The first Scream film to not feature an opening murder.
The way how Richie gets slashed on the arm is similar to how Derek and Jill got slashed on the arm in Scream 2 and 4.
The film's end credits font is the same one used in the credits for the first three movies.
First Scream to feature all deaths be a result of knife or firearm.
Tara is the second Scream series character to be stabbed through the hand by Ghostface following Olivia Morris in Scream 4 (2011).
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@@joshuarobertson8866 I mean I get it. But it’s just like, I watch them kill everyone including a veteran for that motive? Get me something else. Something better along with that. Like maybe that’s true about one but the other something else.
@@j.j.q1379 killing Dewey was done to bring Sydney back e.g... when she said she had kids I knew she wasnt going to run back there.
So Dewey's death was the only way to get her back there e.g... that was the motive in killing Dewey.
Plus it's in line with Scream
-dont trust anyone because people are crazy out there.
I think because of the separation between the films it's not an issues because it kind of parallels current toxic fandoms
The last film was in 2011.
I agree with you Jennifer. The original movie had motives that made sense to an extent. This movie was like.. really? That’s the motive now? Like yes it can “be explained”. I “get it”. I just think it’s dumb. I would have bought it better if the characters doing it were the brother sister who were obsessed with the movies. That would make sense with this motive. But there’s literally ZERO connection between the 2 killers.. how do they even know each other? The original they were best friends. Like this is like what? Maybe make it where it’s the older sister who’s becoming her father. Or make it the younger sister who wants to connect with her real dad. Or make it the mom of the daughters who blame them for making the father leave. Idk… ANYTHING Woulda been better than what it was lol
I had a good time, but the killers motive felt less personal and kind of goofy compared to most of the other films.
I thought this movie was not very good at all, very predictable, major plotholes I love the original scream and really wanted to love this
I feel the twins got off too easily and at the very least one of them should have been attacked more viciously. Other than that I really loved seeing Ghostface again, especially with just how brutal they were with those killings. Gonna watch this as many times as I can in Dolby.
I had fun watching Scream, now all I want is for Hollywood to not make any more sequels to these 80s and 90s horror classics. Its always best to let "sleeping dogs" do what they do lol.
It was fun until Sidney came back, the whole third act was shit.
It was fun until Dewey died. I'm like fuck that Scream 4 is better.
@@shwonsh i didn't mind him dying. I'm rather sick of the same people always surviving. But after his death, it just got so dumb. Why would they stop for an inhaler? Just get out of dodge and get one At the Walgreens in that town.
But they cancel the party just to get an inhaler and all the kids didn't find that odd. That last act was so bad.
@@scottaudetat3090 Well that i guess is my problem. I like Dewey more than most people do and the fact he's the only male in all of the movies, but let's just kill all of the white dudes and have a bunch of woman only. The only guy that lived was the black jock who got attacked and that was it..like whatever.
@@scottaudetat3090 Sam asked Tara if she could make it without her inhaler. Tara said she needed it. That's why they stopped, and couldn't just leave. I don't know about the Walgreens, but as for the party, they DID tell everyone the killer is targeting the house.
@@christopherbrown5023 Im aware, but Sam should've told her to just relax and wait for the next town.
I loved the movie but the weakness of the film. Is the killer motive
That’s the strongest part of the film.
i enjoyed it im a big fan of scream but like you said there are moments of disbelief in this franchise like in this i couldn't believe that there was only one cop at the hospital along with the attacked girl (where was everybody else????
I've seen a lot of it will be like *why the hell is the hospital empty*, and I thought the same thing on my first viewing, but on my second I remembered it's established earlier on that Judy moves her to a private floor of the hospital. That's why it's empty aside from her.
I have not seen Scream 5 yet but let me guess ...was the hospital poorly lit and very under staffed??
@@jcaashby3 No it was perfectly lit and very well staffed... Until a character is put on a private floor (for their own protection, of course 🙄) and then Ghostface shuts the lights off. 🤷♂️
@@jcaashby3 So like... When it matters... Yeah, you right. xD
@@NeelTheSphynx Right lol!
I just watched Scream 4 for the first time and at the end in the hospital noted how freaking dark and understaffed that hospital was. Not the first horror movie like this...Halloween 2 comes to mind.
I loved it
My biggest gripe with the movie was when Chad clocked the killer in the face twice with that candlestick and they just kept it moving. Nah sorry, Chad is easily 180 lbs of muscle, whoever was under that mask would be concussed at the least, unconscious most likely.
I know they do it in all the movies so it's not a big deal but it was just so egrious this time cuz im pretty sure he's the biggest guy we've ever had fight Ghostface and get a hit in.
all could have been avoided if Stab1-7 had the 'don't try this at home' warning
Huge scream fan here, I need more time to stew on it to finalize my opinion but my initial reaction is that it was the weakest installment of the movies.
That's not to say it was bad - i liked it a lot, but i enjoyed the first 4 movies more. There are a LOT of things i love about the film, but i also didn't feel at all attached to (most of) the new cast, save for the sister, mindy, and jack quaid's character. For a movie that's all about passing the torch onto a new generation, it spent a surprisingly little amount of time with the majority of that new generation. There just wasn't enough scenes with most of them and the scenes they were in didn't last long enough for me to soak them in enough. Same goes for our new sidney (aka sidney 3.0) - she just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll like her more in a hypothetical scream 6, but here she's... fine, but not magnetic like neve's sidney was in the first 3 screams.
I did love the extra goriness in the kills, killer reveals are just as scenery chewing as ever, if not even more so (this is a good thing), and that one kill in the house had the best suspense build up I've seen in a loooong time. Solid 7.5/10, but for me - the other 4 are unfortunately all 8s and 9s. Yes... even scream 3 (though that one's just barely an 8).
Comment for the scene John talks about,
That broad daylight kill was one of the best just because of the setting it was in. Being in broad daylight and extremely public, made it extremely scary.
Okay you say you like the first one, and your gripes with the new one is the disbeliefs in it,which every movie has, the scene with tatum was a disbelief and no way a garage can kill you and hold you in air without breaking, and my friend don, t notice I, m gone who I came to the party with,you nip picking cause you don’t like the franchise, which is okay, but nip picking a movie, just ludicrous, every movie has disbeliefs.
Yeah he's like not a fan at all so his opinion is not useful here at all.
Same with him and his Matrix review (and this movie is a lot better than that btw)
John, please do a spoiler review. Would love to hear your additional thoughts. Thanks!
Maybe I’ll change my mind upon a rewatch, but I at no point thought the movie was too meta. Actually, having sat down and rewatched the franchise this week, I thought the meta nature of this one was consistent with the others. After all, isn’t the whole point of the Scream franchise is to serve as a self-parody of the horror genre and those that love it. I mean they literally lay out the rules of each movie within each movie based on the movies that have been made before. They also have a horror franchise that serves as a Scream stand-in within the world of Scream. The only way I think it could’ve gotten more meta was if they chose to call the Stab franchise “Scream” as that would have made it abundantly clear to anyone watching that Wes Craven was talking about them(that is if somehow they were in doubt).
There was great humor? I watched a different movie
It's pretty funny because they tell you multiple times throughout the movie that it's a requel, it is literally a rehashed version of the 1st movie just with new characters and actual consequences. Amber and Richie were obsessed fans of Stab that let it get to their head just like what happened with Billy and Stu. Tara and Mindy are easily the best new characters added, I expect Tara to fill the role of Sydney in a way and Mindy to fill the role of Randy.
I had the same reaction for the kill he discusses, but I got over it in 2 seconds when I reminded myself it’s a movie.
buddy this movie sets up the parameters of people surviving brutal attacks. this is why people are getting mad at you because you clearly don’t know a thing about the franchise and continue to crap on it.
I agree with your initial take coming out of the theaters. They are asking us to suspend disbelief far too much with this one. It was God awful. Half of the setups for deaths are as idiotic as it gets. No chance that people with half a brain would have made the decisions made by so many characters in this movie. I get that people need to die in a slasher, but ATLEAST make it make sense why they are doing the things they do. Putting a witty line or joke before someone makes an unreasonable decision doesn't suddenly make it less ridiculous. I was very disappointed 😞
I like the movie. I even like the killers. What I didn’t like is their wack letdown of a motive.
No different than the other scream movies none of them had great motives they were just crazy people.
🎭🗡 wat da HECATÉ!?
It was borderline parody
@@alexmaverick6647 Being meta is one thing, but you can over do it. This movie was obnoxiously meta.
He didn’t like scream but like peacemaker I would say peacemaker is more meta than scream is!
I meant pleasantly not plenty oops
I was actually excited about a non Wes Craven directed Scream film. I love Wes and he’s a genius but I wanted to see what a new creative team could do with the property. Even though I really enjoyed Scream 2022, I was disappointed because they didn’t do anything different. They just did what Wes would’ve done.
I could easily tell Wes Craven was missing in this movie. I also was pretty disappointed at the entire third act .
These actors were god awful in this movie, I truly feel these people who love this movie or like it are blinded by the gore, kills and how great ghostface was, this movie was bad
@10:33 lol!
It was a good time, I laughed several times. It’s more flawed than anything though… unfortunately.
Was hoping it was good, but man sadly didn’t enjoy this film
The story was good but ruined with a weak terrible ending.
The entire third act was awful. I could not believe they wrote it that way
This was one of the most boring and generic ass films I’ve ever seen in my life. Wow
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I can see how if you’ve only watched three movies ever and the other two were The Dark Knight and Pulp Fiction how you would have that opinion.
Movie kinda sucked honestly. It was so over hyped.
So over-hyped by who? Besides the early reactions, I haven't really heard anyone talking much, about this film. It's not like awareness of it was everywhere, and people wouldn't shut up about it. Advance tickets weren't exactly a hot seller, to my knowledge. So how was the film over-hyped? It wasn't.
@@christopherbrown5023 bro every early review “this is the best since the original”. Every early review raved about this movie. Yes it was over hyped. It’s the 4th best in the franchise.
I felt this was the Wish version of the original. The 3rd act monlogue by the killers was the poor version of Billy and Stu's monologs of the original. 5cream is my 2nd favorite sequel. My favorite will always be the original followed by Scream 2.
It's to piss fans like you off
@@ghostface9369 it didnt piss me off, it was more like meh. They didnt do anythin new, it was more like copy and paste jus with some decent kills. 🤷 the cast was poor imitations of the original aside for the legacy characters. I felt like Richie and Amber were trying to do there best impersonations of Billy & Stu from the original esp. w/ there 3rd act monlogue
Thanks for spoiling the number of killers, j@ck@ss.
@@tchatzop If you come on here before watching the movie you deserve to have it spoiled.
If your talking about the empty hospital. It was a joke, and that joke paid off in the end with another joke. Get over it.
He is so lame he had to review on a Saturday he couldn’t wait till
Monday lol.
You often get this uptight about someone else’s opinion? I’m not sure it’s John that has to “get over it” here
@@aidanfoley6463 John has to drop this review on a Saturday instead of waiting for Monday if anyone is bent on it it’s him !
How is the empty hospital a joke,wow an empty hospital,absolutely hilarious
Sorry but Scream 2 is still a better movie.
Eh, no but it’s a damn good movie!
Dude Mrs Loomis is a better killer than Amber and Richie, and Randy's death scene is better than Dewey's forced death.
@@shwonsh Randy’s death scene sucked! WTF are you talking about?
@@IdiocyShow Dewey's death was avoidable.
@@shwonsh so was Randy’s!
wait... where was KIRBY? from scream 4
Dead lmao
When Jack Quaid is watching TH-cam there is a recommend video that says something along the lines of “Interview with Survivor Kirby Reed”
@@toad6565 whaaat i missed this!
Richard Le I missed it on my first viewing as well.
def not dead
scream 1 to 4 are classic masterpiece. This new one was a trainwreck. Poorly written, terribly directed, bad acting and no set pieces. Very cheap, few kills and bad characters. too much meta commentary and it lacks all the magic of the previous movies. The fake CGI knife was terrible the movie wasn't gory or brutal at all. They killed off two amazing characters in such an anti eroic way they Shit on the legacy of the franchise.
Terrible take. This is easily better than 3 at the very least.
@@captainmarvelous7678 nope 3 was more focused around comedy but it wasn't as silly as this one. It still had incredibile direction, great set pieces, iconic acting, smart meta elements and more action.