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Almost all major hip-hop artist are running u87’s or c800’s. You can hear them everywhere. I think the price of the chain is for ease of use. No need to fiddle with mixing when the chains sound gets it 95 percent of the way finished. Less work down the line.
WA-8000 with Sony Russian Tube Mod will get you closer than any other mic. Not only does Drake use the Sony c800G, but lots of your favorite records were recorded on it from Kanye, to DJ Khalid, Mariah Carry, Boys II Men, 112, P Diddy, Lil Wayne, Busta Rhymes, Nas and the list goes on. Even Jack Harlow recorded a few tracks with this mic. Originally it costed around $7000 when first introduced back in the 90's but due to shortages and inflation price went up. Stam Audio SA-800G comes in second place over the WA-8000 for closest sounded to the original c800G.
How do you know what mic Drake uses
@@martyfleckson3104 noob
Literally came here to post this. This is the most legit answer.
How i get this mod? Tell my pls more about that!
@@lunatic9826 You could potentially do it yourself if you feel comfortable doing it. Google it and there should be in depth info on it.
I had a C800G and loved it. Crisp vocals. Sold it and mostly use a Slate ML1 with VMS system and the C800G and 251 models are almost identical to the actual mics
I run Neumann M149, BAE 1073 MP with CL1B with Zulu at the end before hitting Apollo. Very good signal chain man🙌🏽
Love that m149
@@TrapBoiFuse561 it’s very clean. Some vocals I don’t need to Eq at all just reductive
@@tytansoundlab one day will try it out
@@TrapBoiFuse561 what preamp are you running?
@@tytansoundlab v402
He also uses neve 1084 preamp. Tube tech cl1b compressor and Mojave ma1000. The only hardware I’m missing is la2a and the Sony microphone. If you run that into a good converter it’s very clean.
Nice! I saw that. You are absolutely correct. Thank you for commenting.
La2a is the only thing I care about. Older the better.
U really don't have to have the most expensive equipment, u can still sound like bobo water after spent the bag on the studio, it's all about knowing what to use, with talent and the expertise
I agree, I know how to produce music using apps , don’t even need to buy software are instruments, a lot of it, is just for stores to get people to spend money, it’s a gimmick
it aint a gimmick, bro your low budget approach may sound good, but remember they emulate the the hardware. the hardware is simply put, AMAZING AND HOT COMPARABLE TO SOFTWARE@@baddiezone
Kuk Harrell's vocal chain would be awesome.
Niceeeeeeeeeee! One of our legendsssss! I'm on the case! lol
He has a whole video on mix with masters. 251 or c800 >1073>cl1b
@@Mrk7 Yep. I watch all of his videos. Didn’t want to spoil it for the people who didn’t know lol. Man he keeps everything simple. I think a neve 1081 is what he said in a Sound on Sound article👍🏾
@@Mrk7 aye if you're who I think you are I spoke to Nick via email years ago. And a basic question he asked sent me on a whole new path. Within a year I was doing VO for Fortune 50 companies and LeBron. You're surrounded by a lot of really smart people.
This is well done bro! Here is a $3000 vocal chain that will get you close - Townsend Labs Sphere (it has a 800 model) into an Apollo twin with UA plug-ins. Btw Bainz used this setup to record Gunna
NICEEEEE!!!! Killer chain. I'm going to get my hands on the Townsend Labs Sphere very soon. I didn't know that man. I have to see what's that about. Thank you so much for the info brother.
@@archiebeatz No problem! Each one teach one, and keep it pushing 💪🏽 I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the mic. I think youre gonna dig it! You get a free Universal audio plug-in with it and runs in console
@@archiebeatz I have the Sphere too and it's simply brilliant, especially when used with the Oceanway and Putnam microphone suites from UAD. Their Sony C-800G emulation is gorgeous.
That L22 800 I been using that and it doesn’t take that much eq to make sound good 👍🏾
@@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596 yeah Im about to demo those! Heard about the 251e
I love the Sony C-800G, I will never use another microphone ever again
The anticipation for the Antelope Audio Axino video is unreal 🔥🔥🔥
Hahahahahaha, I wish I could upload now but we have a few more edits! It's coming brother. Thanks for checking in!
@@archiebeatz No worries man, I know you value quality first and foremost
This video really popped Archie, great stuff. Was cool to see this and what he uses... guess it time to start saving haha
Thanks Niko! You should see the latest one (Jay Z's original one is $50,000, lol). Hahahahahaha, you and me both brother.
My frined has a Sony CG800 and that sounds really polished and bright out the box
Nice!
Favorite Drake album is Take Care, but my favorite song is Hold On, We’re Going Home.
Loved seeing his vocal chain. Thanks, AB! 🎤
U gotta do a rich homie quan one 🔥😮💨
Rich go hard! Noted brother!
Great, tight chain very similar to what we're running in our A-Room.
Telefunken 251, Neve Shelford, LA2A and Kush Audio secret sauce!!
Niceeeee! You all have some dangerous weapons over there, lol.
@@archiebeatz Yessir, Running a Custom Hybrid Trident A-Range/Vector 128 Channel Console with the 10mhz Antelope Audio Clocking and A/D Converters. Finally the Black Magic White Sparrow for spatial imaging.
Favorite Drake album is definitely Take Care.
Such a dope album! Thanks for commenting Sav.
I have a neumann tlm 102 and the mic sounds great but its my vocal chain on my apollo that makes it pop.
Awesome. I can see that for sure. Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel.
This is great. You don't have to spend 20K to get a great vocal recording. I have a TLM 103 $1200 CDN and a UT 87 roughly $1200 CDN going into a $4000 UA 6176 channel strip. I also have a WA73-EQ Pre $1085.00 CDN and I have the 1176 Limiting Amplifier from the 6176 inserted into it. All said and done I've spent $7485 before tax on my vocal chain and I bet I could spend way less than half this amount and still get a great vocal recording. It's not the gear it's how you use it and capturing a great vocal take from a great singer or rapper.
What kind of vocal ranges you recording in the 103? I've had two and only got good results on female vocals or tenor pop males. Earlier today I prefered a commercial VO with a bass male on an AT mic than the 103 I have left. Maybe I'm not compressing enough?
I traded my 103 years back because it was to bright… now all music has created a space for young airy bright vocals…. Gonna re-purchase.. oh well.
Love what you do Archie! Your videos makes me dream bigger
What camera are you using? I’m mesmerized by the quality and the lights 🤩
Hi Porshia! Thank you so much. I'm using my Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 6K Pro w/Sigma 18-34 1.8 & Canon 50mm 1.8 (for the B-Roll). I have a Godox SL-60 as the key light and 2 GVM 1000D for my rim light and practical. :)
I know people who work closely with drake and his actual mic of choice is a tlm 103 but go off
Man, this is fantastic. I didn't know it was possible to figure this stuff out! Any chance you'd be willing to do some older singers? I've always wondered how Anita Baker & Celine Dion get their sounds...
i really like the get it together, love that song
Nice!
What piece of analog gear would u suggest for glue ???NEW SSL BUS?? TEGLER CREME?? RUPERT NEVE MBC??
Hi Iris! All of these are great. I currently own the Tegeler creme but I've used all of the these. The SSL Bus compressor that's modeled after the G bus compressor is my favorite for that nice glue. The Tegeler is next. Then the Neve MBC (I like neve on the front in during the vocal chain process). They all deliver the same quality as well. It's just a certain sound that I prefer. I hope this helps.
I use the c800 into the Tubetech channel strip into a Apollo x6. 20k vocal chain you can hear the quality on my channel . On my single “big time “ I used the 1073 neve into the CL1b into Apollo quad silver.
Niceeee! I have to check that out.
As a longtime engineer I promise you I’ve heard platinum records tracked on a Rode NT1000 and trash tracked on a U-87. Best alternate condenser mics on a budget (imo):
Any Warm Audio condenser clone, Rode K2 or NT1000 & 2000, Shure KSM32, AKG C214 or C314. Not a huge fan of AT mics but I’ve been testing some mics from Mojave and Avantone that are very solid!! The key is that unless you plan to open a major studio or you’re just an audiophile with a big budget it makes no sense to spend so much money on something like the Neumann U87 or a Sony C800g in today’s game. FUNDamentals before FUNDING rentals 🤙🏼
I’m on my first mic akg C214 I’m still learning how to master it after a year. Once I master this one I’m going for either the tlm102/3 or c414
AT headphones not bad I have a pair but beyerdynamic is your best bet
@@yvanm7999 Why would you switch it up after you master it? Are you just looking to expand your collection or what? I honestly feel like you gonna be disappointed by the TLM’s you named but I may be wrong.
Also BeyerDynamics are industry standard headphones but it depends on the purpose. For mixing the DT 990 Pros (250Ω) are undefeated but you will most likely need a headphone amplifier if you get anything above 60Ω. For tracking/recording it doesn’t matter what you use as long as it’s closed back. If it’s for you and you only get the DT 240 Pro’s or DT 770 Pro (80Ω). If it’s headphones you letting other people use in your studio get something like LyxPro HAS-10 or the Sony MDR-7506 bcuz ppl not gon take care of your shit like you will lol.
I wanna see the weeknd's vocal chain, would be sick
Check out his recording engineer and producer Illangelo on mix with the masters. He basically uses an Apollo with plugins, either with an sm7b or u67
I love these video series man! I would love to see what eminem's vocal chain is... I think that would be a great challenge for you to find out
It's pretty much the same. C800G to Neve to CL1B or LA2A and/or 1176 is pretty much industry standard these days, assuming it suits the vocalist's voice. In other words, not everyone uses this chain, but it's a fairly common chain with most major Hip Hop artists.
"You and The 6" definitely a top Drake song - I still dont know my top album
Great video Archie.
That's Jae! I really appreciate your continuous support brother.
@@archiebeatz np Archie. Always support a positive brother.
time to go SHOPPING! lol thanks for this video
LMAO!!!!! I feel you bro.
My favourite: Drake :"Popstar", "Look alive"
First timer great insight I produce melodic progressive house but at the end mixing is an art and great to see your knowledge
So it really depends what the master engineer and recording engineer decides at the end
Correct! 100%.
I like my vocal set up... simple.. U87 or AKG C414 to Universal Audio 6176. I got the UAD stuff too but, there is just something special about the 6176.
working with cheap gear is great until you're in the big studio with a list artist and they find out it doesn't sound as good😂🎉
Your video quality and flow it superb.
Thank you so much.
you gotta search for theskybeats master chain
Love ur channel
Thank you!!
Nice!!!! Lovin' what you are doing with your channel! New Subby. Sony 7506 Yes!!!! I really like my ATH-M50X. Also, the ATH-M40X for 99 bucks are excellent headphones. Little less bass response than the ATH-M50X, but very solid and def worth the $.
Drake - Headlines
But my favorite Album from him is Nothing Was The Same
Love the content bro🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks brother. I really appreciate your support.
@@archiebeatz anytime, keep ‘em coming!
It don’t even matter about some of the equipment!!!!! It’s about how you make it sound with the equipment. Quality gear is very true though.
100%
Sennheiser hd 280, and Sony 7506s are more than enough for accurate listening.
I just bought a 103, that they use on me at Enviyon, but they do have surround sound in the studio which id love to do. Do a post Malone vocal chain
We have a 103 > 1073 > Distressor
Sounds amazing for under $5000
That's an amazing vocal chain. EFFECTIVE! Thank you for sharing!
I have a 103 as well. Do you have to do any special eq tricks before/after tracking to get it to sound smooth?
@@JiiNxMusic depends on the artists voice/genre. we have the 1073 EQ cutting lows, boosting mids/highs. Using Dist2 mode on the Distressor also. Vocals sound metallic but warm, very slight high-end distortion. We make “mumble rap”.
Take Care!
Nice!
TLM 103 All Day 🎙
There's nothing wrong with that!
Bro where your beats at lol
I record vocals on an ultra cheap behringer mic that goes into audient id14 (soon to be replaced by the same thing but mk2) and that goes into Reaper. I use 1176-ish compressor and valhala reverb plugins for recording. In the mix I use pitch correction, eq, and another compressor or limiter
AKG C414 XLII also another good mic i use that and the U87 together at the same time mono when recording Vox then i can dial them in as needed this another way to get close to the 1 mics that cost 10k even 20k
Great technique. You can't really go wrong with it. Thanks for sharing.
@@archiebeatzya NP this way you get 2 mics AKG C414 XLII is more of a R&B so its warmer mic u87 more of a pop brighter this makes your vocals sound more pristine any way and can match any pricey mics it still not cheap but not crazy
I'm subscribing in the hope you'll get us the Kuk Harrell vocal chain ✅
I just found you, very cool, I will be watching...
This is dope bro
GREAT VIDEO BRUH
Which Neve 1073? (80 series? SPX?). It would be great to be more specific or even list and link those products…
I have the Burl mothership the Avalon 737 and the Neuman Tlm103
Is the Axino really a good mic. I'm looking for a budget mic. Can I use it with apollo twin?
I had a Sony C800G in 2017, great mic but did NOT work on everyones vocal, something thin and too bright sounding. Most of Drake's sound is his VOICE.
I use x73 into LA2A or 1176 depending on the vocalist. But we just got the Maag eq, so I'll go from the neve into the Maag into the LA2A or 1176. Never thought about using a transient designer on vocals, I might use a multiband comp from time to time though
bae 1073 is the closet to the real thing
when buying the Teletronix, which one should i use? gray, legacy, or silver? please help!
I like the part where he casually glosses over the use of an SSL 4000 in the chain. 😂
fr that takes it to a $65k vocal chain
@@abdo should it even be worth that high? lol
Hey brother, you said you have the 5211. What was your reason behind getting that VS the 1073 just out of curiosity?
He dose not use a ssl desk it’s a Euphonix system 5
Yeah man the Sony is sick but you should check out my fav mic the lewitt 540 subzero
My fav song is “flights booked”
I definitely would like to have you on my show soon!
I need a good UAD vocal chain for u87
In my latest videos, I've been using my U87 Ai > UAD Avalon 737 > SSL E and it sounds really good. Also the U87 Ai > UAD Neve 1073 > UAD LA2A has worked out miracles when recording any type vocals. I hope this helps.
@@archiebeatz So the tube tech doesn’t really matter right?
What do you think about the Slate Digital ML 1 microphone
❤️ Nice
Thank you!
So feeling this series… the vocal chain has been the bane of my existence…. ? Does anyone use the tlm 49? I am running the 49 through the wa 73 eq to the dbx 266 for gating and light dynamic control then the dbx 286s for 80hz roll off and de essing, then the eqp wa, followed by the 6176 comp to catch those transients and finally the wa 2a to the Focusrite interface… let’s see…$$ about 8 grand… but still loosing at finding the rich/warm airy sound I seek… I know it’s me… so I’ll keep plugging away, the sounds there I just gotta find it!!! By the way again I appreciate the the vc series your doing, it is inspiring!!!!
Try that UAD precision eq, Leslie Brathwaite is using it to get the top end back and for warmth I just started using Distressor or you can try both of these and run parallel comp to get that square sound
@@MrArtVein appreciate ya, been researching and considering the distress or for a min… also looking into a resonance filter… til then I will hit it and c, thx!
mics, mic pres, daw, or whatever my friend made a monster hit records on a tascam cassette 8trk. Angelica or Anjelica the song was Angel Baby. I am saying this, to say its all about the song period. if you got a hit you can record it. on an iPhone and nothing else but garage band. the only time you need all that equipment, is when you dont have a hit. it only really matters is when the song is not a hit.
EDEN > Pacifica > TLA 100a > Retro 176 > Tube Tech CL1B > Hilo
what do you like better between your 87ai and tlm103? i got the tlm 103 thinking of getting the u87
87 if you have a deep voice run from the 103. 87 miked right I wouldn't even consider it mixing it's so easy to get things to sit right
@@MrArtVein yeah the tlm is too high end/hot for me
C8100 or the Mojave mics
It’s not hard to find lol it’s been out for years
You didn’t mention rode ntk that ?
So what are the thoughts on the Sony c100 ?
I love Sweetwater. Fav ufckin’ company. I just scooped up Warm Audio’s version/Sony clone: WA-8000 😈👌🏽 Can’t wait to feed it thru the Apollo & plugs u mentioned.
Let us know how it sounds. I've heard it's brittle but I'm guessing they weren't using it right
The only reason I avoid The sony headphones is because the cables are not removable. If the cable goes bad you can just buy a new one instead of spending the time to fix them yourself.
I’m running with a neuman tlm 102 and audient id14 interface , what y’all think ?
wa-8000 $1100 - WA-1073 clone pre amp $699- Wa- CA1b clone - $1100 - apollo twin $900 , best vocal chaing for less than $4000
1:42 did you film that
Yes, majority of the microphone shots that are product style shots, I film here at my studio as well. One of my other passions.
What silk circuit do you use, blue or red? How far do you push it to get that 1073 sound?
Red. I have it cranked all the way on my vocals. For my song "Play" it's cranked all the way but the talkbox is at 25%: th-cam.com/video/qyXJQE1FLo4/w-d-xo.html .... And with pop songs like this, I have it half way cranked: th-cam.com/video/g5Ihrd-bChc/w-d-xo.html
Nice. I have the Shelford Channel. I to use the red more than the blue circuit.
I actually prefer blue better for smoothing out the highs
Put a pultec compressor on it. That's what I think.
What’s the difference on the 1073 spx nd 1073N??
Archie do u got some preset for the neve 1073 for recording rap/rnb vocals, i was looking for it from a long time
Nice
Thank you!
Bro I paid 20 bucks for his chain and a bunch of others like Ariana Grande and The Weeknd and Justin Bieber
Hardware aside, you can really get the same results with just some tweaking.
what analog gear do you have set up other than the neeve?
I think he just uses the u87 now
The crazy part is..... A lot of these artists stick with 1 mic for years and change. Then go back to the ones they used a decade ago, lol.
@@archiebeatz yea lol I think because it might be easier to travel with on road
I like the vid bro, but maybe look at flippin' the whole theme and looking at how you can put a $200 vocal chain in front of an incredible singer and it will always sound way, way better than an average singer with a $2m vocal chain. The talent is in the singer, and the performance is everything. I'm sure you agree bro. Peace.
I saw that price of the vocal chain, 😲 omg
I can get the u87 mics all day for $2,000
That's an awesome deal.
Very interesting, but gear of course unaffordable. 😟 Nevertheless i like videos of this kind!
Thank you. Yes, this stuff is pretty expensive. It took me over 15 years and piecing everything together for my studio.. I'm glad you still appreciate the content.
honestly in the last few years i really haven't liked the way drake's vocals are mixed especially his singing vocals, they feel way too highpassed and thin with a big resonance in the filter, it just sounds flat and robotic and boring
What pro tech plugins are you speaking of?
Pultec
Yeah I am pretty sure Drake could produce a viral hit on a dollar store pair of headphone using reverse polarity...he can afford a $20,000 vocal chain set up...Hey Drake if you need my service you know where I am...ha ha...
So why he still sound fugazi on "Staying Alive" ?
Why do we care about Drakes expensive vocal chain when he just talks into the mic? He’s got no dynamics, never sings, and it would sound the same into an SM58 direct into a Focusrite.
LOL not a chance.