I love all of your guys' reviews. Those made me buy the G27, the TH8A, the RaceRoom RR1000 and now the T500 RS. I'm starting to get into Simracing and I'm really enjoying it ALOT. Thank you for your great reviews and answering questions in the comments.
@ Darin: one important difference between a load cell and a rubber stop mod is that a load cell will give you full resolution at high brake pressure, whereas a potentiometer based brake will have very little resolution at high brake pressure. Remember, the rubber stop modded pedal still senses _position_, but the position is changing very little near the critical lock up region. I.e. load cell gives higher resolution where you need it, modulating brake pressure around the threshold of lock up And yes, 1024 steps is 10 bits :)
I agree with the review. I really love the conical brake mod I actually have better lap times over my clubsport V2. The only thing clubsport do better is the clutch feel.
I dont know if you still need this or if you have moved on to another set, but i know that ricmotech sells a spring mod for both the throttle and clutch with help with the feel massively
your comment saved me! thank you! I use T150 and will definetely change the wheel someday, and i feared thrustmaster maybe changes the plugs or something else so i couldnt use the pedals in some years... the pedals are absolutely great so i was close to order some other thrustmaster wheel for backup..but now i will simply order 1 or two adapters.. (sorry for messi english)
Darin, I just want to say that you are doing a great job. The videos are as good...if not better, than ever. Keep up the great work. I hope that these pedals are easier to get than the T3PA wide pedal sets were. I have the CSP V2's right now but I prefer these for the higher resolution (particularly on the throttle) and the fact that they will free up a USB port on my PC. Add in the fact that when pCars releases on xbox one my whole set up will be compatible. Yes! Thrustmaster makes great stuff. Again, keep up the good work. Best of luck at the Sebring 12 hours!
SnappyDee2O4F Thanks so much Snappy ! I've put a lot of effort into improving the production quality and it's a great feeling to get that kind of feedback ! I like these pedals for the same reasons you do.. Resolution, free's up a USB port and I love the conical brake mod ! On top of that, compatible on all current gen systems if you have the wheel to go with it. Thanks for the luck at Sebring too, gonna need it :-)
This is awesome news! I have been combing eBay for months for t500 pedals but not any longer! I own the t300rs and will be buying these the day they go on sale for the US. Can.not.wait. Thanks for the video, you guys are awesome!
Thanks for the review of these pedals and for your T300 review. My T300 arrives in a couple of days, I'm upgrading from a G27 and I'll be able to get a set of these pedals in a couple of weeks! Happy days :)
I just ordered this dew days ago because of your detailed review. I was planning to buy the csr-e but it is $100cdn more due to my location(CAAANADA haha). Giid thing there was a thrustmaster seller that shipped with in Canada,that alone save me atleast 80 bucks.. Awesome review Darin
Why anyone would consider buying the standard T3PA after seeing these in the flesh i do not know. They are heaps and bounds way better construction than the originals and way heavier too. Can't comment on usage as i'm gonna have to wait until weekend to mount these beauties... All i can say is if your on the fence about which to buy - go the extra mile and get these on build quality alone.
+matt briers definitely braking is much easier much more feel and you feel like you can actually jump on the pedals without them snapping beneath you. Helped loads with GTPES with no ABS the feel was there which it wasn't beforehand with the regular set.
+Adam Wareham Ah right, good to know! I'm looking at upgrading from my Logitech G27 wheel to something a little better. I was going to go down the t500rs rout which comes with these pedals (well.. Pretty much the same) but I think I'll get the t300rs instead and just buy these pedals. With the t300rs being newer and cheaper it looks like the better option. Thanks for the reply!
+matt briers yh every review i've read says the T300 is better than the 500. Upgrade to these pedals and you've got the best of both. Also the T300 can be used on PS4 as well
Darin, love your videos. I have the T300 alcantara wheel with the standard T3PA pedals. I love the rig but the clutch and throttle just don't offer enough resistance when driving, it takes away the realism for me a little bit. Do the pro pedals give more pushback in the clutch and accelerator pedal? They're going for £100 at the moment on Box website. Worth the buy?
Too bad the T3PA or the T3PA Pro are so hard to find in the Netherlands. There is only one shop that offers the T3PA but those have a base price of 100 euro's and they ask 169 euro's just because they are so hard to come by. It would be nice if they would become available at more stores so the prices drop a bit. The T3PA Pro's are being sold fo 250 euro's. If i add another 150 or something i have the full T500 set
+Inside Sim Racing Could you tell me what Load Cell mod you prefer for these pedals? Ricomotech or BLC? ...and I found it interesting that within the video you seemed to prefer these pedals without a load cell mod; why exactly is that -- the extra cost only?
i bought these pedals and initially enjoyed them, but after a while i have felt the clutch start to rattle when pushed to which i fixed by wrapping a rubber band round the support strip and the pedal stem... i also have now felt rattling in the brake and will most likely have to add a rubber band around the throttle and brake stem to add extra tension to stop this rattling feeling... hope no one else has had these problems i've only used these pedals a couple of times in the last few days too.
An usb adapter will also be usefull if you use a normal desk for your wheel mount. I hate to have all those cables running over my desk. The pedals running directly to my PC instead of the wheelbase is what I need! Good review. Pedals are hard to get in europe. The only dutch shop retails them for 250€ at the moment which I won't buy.
Hi. Good review. Do you think these will work on a RaceRoom seat? Will it work inverted as well? Also why do you invert the pedals? Is it because of the style of game you're playing or does it just feel more natural?
Great review Darin. As usuall. These pedals look very nice. I love how simple yet very good the brake mod looks. I wouldn't necessarily say these are better than the clubsport pedals but they definetely aren't overpriced and are invertable. Are we going to see from you some coverage of the new sim updates like AC 1.1 or rFactor 2 build 930?
MrThiefff1910 Thanks ! AC 1.1 for sure but not too sure about rF2 build 930. I'll probably cover whats going on in GSC Extreme, Raceroom and Project Cars before getting back to rF2.
Inside Sim Racing Yes GSCE had some awesome updates. I love the Metalmoro on Spielberg combination. And the Formula Vee on on Cascavel is such a blast. It is so rewarding when you hold the car on the edge using throttle on those long fast corners. And there is a lot going on in AC with the new updates and DLC. The AI sucks though. Looking forward for your videos.
Thanks for the review, very interesting as usual. I would like to know a couple of things. First, about accelerator and clutch. On standard T3PA there are different weights for each one as you can't invert them. So clutch has 5 kg spring that is double of the accelerator spring that is 2.5 kg. I assume that with the T3PA PRO they have the same weight so you can invert them. I don't know if I'm right. Second question is if the conical brake mode is just similar between the two set or there are some slight differences they have made. Thank you
I have a deal lined up for a used set of T500 pedals, just to confirm but will they still work with the TRJ12 USB Adapter? Would be $100 Canadian shipped+$28.24 ($24.99+13% tax) Canadian I paid for the adapter.
Nice video ! Couple of questions though: How does the T3PA pro compare to the original one ? I've been waiting on the normal ones for a few months now, but seeing how it takes for ever to have them in stock I'm considering buying the pro version instead, but it costs quite a lot of money. Second question: does the T3PA pro fit on the Playseat Evolution ?
mathcachaille Thanks for the compliment ! You may need to remove that bar for them to fit and I doubt you can invert them on the Evo. They are very similar to the standard T3PA pedals. I hear they will be in stock soon though and they will fit no problem on the Evolution. You can't go wrong with either set.
Inside Sim Racing Thank you for the response. Apparently Playseat Evolution is good for the T3PA pro/T500rs pedals type, but since the stock T3PA is basically the same as the pro version (without inversion), I guess I'll stick with the normal T3PA. Thanks again for your advice !
I just hope I can find one of these when released! :( I have had such bad luck finding the normal one and still have the stock two pedal setup with shifter. I always wondered about that brace also because my rig does not support it......Great review! Must have them around the time of project cars
I pre-ordered them april 3rd. They are out of stock now and are not shipping my order, despite having pre-ordered two weeks before release. Was it available on amazon at an earlier time?
I already have the regular T3PA set. I like them, they have the same conical rubber brake mod as the PRO, and I am not a big fan of an inverted setup. So am I right if I say this is a very nice upgrade from the standard 2-pedal set (T300RS) but is NOT if you already have the normal T3PA set?
Serge McGraw In your case, since you don't want to invert, there's really no need to get these pedals. They are a huge upgrade for those that have the standard 2 pedal set in the TX and T300
Is it normal to only see ~50% of max pedal travel in the Thrustmaster profiler software after installing the black rubber conical mod? I understand that I can set the "max" travel by calibrating the pedals in-game, but I just want to make sure I didn't install it wrong. Seems like I should have more travel to work with.
I'm buying all this stuff because of your videos. I'm wondering if the clutch is a waste though. It doesn't seem to be used that often. In other vids too...
024DJF Thanks for watching ! I use it for coming off the line in standing starts or leaving the pits. It does get a lot less use than my throttle and brake.
Tnk you for the information I have a t500rs it is good or not because I hearing on TH-cam that model t500rs has a high temperature problem and some times the steering when I start it the steering do 1/4 rounds non stop Thnk you for respond
My question is, Can you put your own pedal plates on it? Let's say I have a specific type of plate on my car, and would like to hve the same type on my sim rig.
Hi Darin, how's the clutch on these pedals? I've not really found much online about it. Seeing that the accelerator and clutch are the same... I have g27 pedals with my t300 atm, how does the clutch compare to the g27 clutch. Thanks! And great review!
Inside Sim Racing Thanks a lot. As soon as they're back in stock I'll be upgrading thanks to your review. Had been holding out for some clubsports but the recent EU price hike put me right off.
Hi, I've just bought a 2nd hand set. The guy before me used them in gt position but I want to change them to F1 position. Question is how does the set up/game/base/console recognise the accelerator and clutch pedals been changed round. I dont want to be using the gas with my left foot, what do I need to do please, thank you.
Should I get these or the Fanatec CSR Elite? Or some other pedals? I've got the Thrustmaster T300RS (I know I would need to get an adapter for the Fanatec pedals) and I'm going to get the Next Level Racing Wheel Stand sometime in the future so that I can use my gear stick.
I'm still waiting for the standard T3PA pedals to become available. I want to use my TH8 in gated mode as I find myself wishing the sequential mode had some kind of feedback when shifting. When Fanatec come out with a product with compatibility for this console generation (I have a PC and PS3/4) I hope it won't make me regret going with Thrustmaster. I wish Logitech were still in the game or someone would step up to replace them. I like having more choice than either or. Plus I like finding out about new gear when it is announced/released so I'd have more to look at.
+SGT EpicSpeed It's simply a matter of preference. I bought the T300RS with the standard pedals and am getting a set of T3PA Pro's to add on to the set. The standard T3PA's are great but with the Pro you get the choice of F1 style or GT style when you mount the pedals. Either way, you can't really go wrong.
Is this set is basically the T3PA just with a nicer casing or is there something different in the inside structure too (except of the upside down mounting of course)?
No, they are a much better set of pedals and don't compare. They are very similar to the t500rs pedals which are absolutely excellent so I would go for the Pro
Great review Darin.. Looking for a upgrade to replase my g27 pedals.. So where can I get the USB adapter for theese? and will the resolution be the same using the adapter?
Cady72dk You would actually need two adapters for these to work as a stand alone USB set.. This one sim-sport.net/sr-1-chassis.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=38&category_id=6 and this one sim-sport.net/bodnar-cable.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=21&category_id=6 At least that's the way it looks. We reviewed the adapter here a while back.. th-cam.com/video/-VBvnHiX4i4/w-d-xo.htmlm7s
One thing frustrates me, this eco system is great. But for example it's not possible for me to order just a t300 wheel, I have to get the shitty standard pedals with it. So if I then also buy this pedals, I will have a pedal set extra..
Naut Applicable they make money on everyone!!! i dont use clutch and yet i cant use the stock pedals that comes with t300 or tx ... very few will buy such a good wheel without getting a good set of pedals :/ the stock pedals are just their way of making the wheel ready to use.
Hi Darin! I'm thinking of buying either these or the "standard" T3PA pedals to go with my T300RS. I don't need inverted pedals. Which of the two should I buy? Please help! :)
RikuKS Hey! I bought the t3pa pedals a week ago and within 2 days of use, the throttle pedal mechanism broke. So I returned it and got the t3pa pro. Trust me the $50 makes all the difference. Go for the t3pa pro!!!
I have these from the 500. When the pots started going bad I replaced them with the CSR Elite Pedals. I think the CSR's beat them, especially the brake. The T3PA-Pro's stay in place better. The CSR's need anchoring. But the 500/T3PA-Pro Pedals are a menagerie of sharp metal edges that are hell on bare feet. The only ergonomic issue with the CSR Elites is I don' the ridge at the front of the foot rest just behind the lower part of the pedals. It can be hard on the balls of the feet. I use them with the TM 500 Wheel and 8a Shifter.
How much of an different makes these pedal against the t3pa? Thinking about to upgrade and buy these ones....anybody know? And i can use them with my t300rs ferrari integral edition?
thanks for the review! does anyone know if the standard T3PA can also be inverted using the mode botton?? those are really hard to find and im thinking to buy a set of standard T3PA and mount them upside down!!
Hello, I was wondering whether you could comment on whether these are worth the price difference over the regular T3PA pedals? I will have the regular T3PA pedals once I buy a TX Leather edition so i was wondering if its worth the upgrade? Are the Pro pedals any more sensitive or have any higher resolution on the pedal inputs?
I have these pedals and they are good but I find the clutch and accelerator pedals are way too light and do not give a realistic feel at all. I find I cannot drive this pedal set with shoes on (bare feet only) because I just get no feel in the accelerator for partial throttle application. I know you can get aftermarket stiffer springs for the clutch and accelerator but its a significant 'Con' that was not mentioned in the review.
Can I put these pedals inverted on Rseat W-Stand? Definitely buying these pedals for my t300rs. Also you should try to review this Rseat W-Stand. It's great wheel stand, much better than GT Omega, Next level wheel stand or wheel stand v2.
g27 ftw. they re not being made and i have to say im so fucking happy i bought it. 200 euros as it was on discount at the time i bought it. best shit ever, some might be a bit better, but they are alot more expensive. g27 comes complete, and with every other steering wheel you have to buy a shift gear, and most of the times new pedals because they dont have the clutch. g27 has it all. 200 euros is a hell of a bargain. GG
Amazing review Daren, i have a Gt Omega Pro cockpit and im afraid that the pedals won't fit in. Is there a way to remove the black rectangle from the pedals? Thanks!
Can anyone tell me what real life car groups use suspended style? I hear F1 cars use the floor mount style, but I dont know about GT3, GT2, and GT1. I assume Gr. 4 in Gran Turismo Sport (not sure if this is a real life car group) uses suspended style because that is what most road cars use.
Anyone know which real life car groups use what pedal position? I was thinking GT style for Gr4 and below, F1 style for Gr2 and above. Not sure about Gr3. I'm just guessing though.
Do you think these pedals work even with a Wheel Stand Pro? I have it but I don't know if I will still be able to brake with my left foot when I play F1
Of course it does. If you mount the pedals GT Style, you need a metal plate to mount the pedals, also available at the Thrustmaster page for a few bucks. If you like it in F1 Mode, just attach the pedals the same way as the standard pedals.
Is it worth upgrading from the t3pa? I'm about to buy my first PS4 set up for F1 2016/project cars grand tourismo etc. I'm interested in the t300 alcantara edition that comes with the t3pa. Is there a package that includes the t3pa pro with the t300? So I don't have to buy it separately.
Nvm, Amazon just had a price drop so I was able to buy the t300 base, Ferrari alcantara rim, and t3pa pro for the same price as the t300 integral alcantara set
Inside Sim Racing I have a 458 spider wheel for the Xbox one and was wondering if I can all the ecosystem parts pike wheel stand and the shifter and pedals
I preordered these in the U.S. on Amazon in March and now my shipping date keeps getting pushed into late May. Any word on what's holding up the release availability? Also can't find them available anywhere else.
evh347 I received mine today from shopblt dotcom. They were out when i ordered but they received them to ship on the expected date. They were reliable for me and were delivered within 2 days.
+matt briers The only difference between the TP3A and TP3A-Pro it's that the TP3A-Pro can be inverted and the chassis is made of metal. Their resolutions, adjustability and feeling are the same, also both of them come with the conical brake mod. FYI I have a T500RS set but I also had the opportunity to try the TP3A pedals.
Hello Niek, alles goed? The T3PA-Pro can't be compared to the original pedals that came with the T300RS set. It is so much better and the feeling is so good. (I use the Pro pedals in GT Style and it really improved my lap times (On SPA 3 seconds). I have heard the T3PA are also nice but the plastic base was holding me off. The T3PA-Pro is about 7Kg and doesn't move while the default pedals were a pain to keep on the same place even with stuff holding it from sliding backwards. Maybe you can arrange a visit @ wheelstandpro (your name seems dutch) to try them out? They delivered mine in just one day.
I'm interested in getting these as a standalone to use with my Clubsport wheel. As a matter of fact I've already ordered them. I just noticed in your video there is a button on the T500 wheel to switch from F1 position to GT/Rally. Will it be possible to switch modes with the Bodner adaptor?
So guys. I wanna buy a new pedal set right now. Because I lock up while braking in Assetto Corsa (with G27 pedals). Which one is the best choice? Fanatec Clubsport V2 Pedals or Thrustmaster T3PA-PRO Pedals?
I love all of your guys' reviews. Those made me buy the G27, the TH8A, the RaceRoom RR1000 and now the T500 RS. I'm starting to get into Simracing and I'm really enjoying it ALOT. Thank you for your great reviews and answering questions in the comments.
Karenius My pleasure and thanks for watching !
Same thing really, didn't get into sim racing till last March when I bought my TX lol
Thanks to this video I was able to get myself a set of pedals to go with the T300RS I have just bought. Pedals only cost me £132 with VAT.
@ Darin: one important difference between a load cell and a rubber stop mod is that a load cell will give you full resolution at high brake pressure, whereas a potentiometer based brake will have very little resolution at high brake pressure. Remember, the rubber stop modded pedal still senses _position_, but the position is changing very little near the critical lock up region. I.e. load cell gives higher resolution where you need it, modulating brake pressure around the threshold of lock up
And yes, 1024 steps is 10 bits :)
I agree with the review. I really love the conical brake mod I actually have better lap times over my clubsport V2. The only thing clubsport do better is the clutch feel.
I dont know if you still need this or if you have moved on to another set, but i know that ricmotech sells a spring mod for both the throttle and clutch with help with the feel massively
Thrustmaster now has their own adapter to play with other wheels
your comment saved me! thank you!
I use T150 and will definetely change the wheel someday, and i feared thrustmaster maybe changes the plugs or something else so i couldnt use the pedals in some years...
the pedals are absolutely great so i was close to order some other thrustmaster wheel for backup..but now i will simply order 1 or two adapters.. (sorry for messi english)
jesse rowland wow thank you what about g920?
Link for one?
Darin, I just want to say that you are doing a great job. The videos are as good...if not better, than ever. Keep up the great work. I hope that these pedals are easier to get than the T3PA wide pedal sets were. I have the CSP V2's right now but I prefer these for the higher resolution (particularly on the throttle) and the fact that they will free up a USB port on my PC. Add in the fact that when pCars releases on xbox one my whole set up will be compatible. Yes!
Thrustmaster makes great stuff. Again, keep up the good work. Best of luck at the Sebring 12 hours!
SnappyDee2O4F Thanks so much Snappy ! I've put a lot of effort into improving the production quality and it's a great feeling to get that kind of feedback !
I like these pedals for the same reasons you do.. Resolution, free's up a USB port and I love the conical brake mod ! On top of that, compatible on all current gen systems if you have the wheel to go with it.
Thanks for the luck at Sebring too, gonna need it :-)
You bet. Stay focused and stay clean. You've got the pace just keep out of trouble.
This is awesome news! I have been combing eBay for months for t500 pedals but not any longer! I own the t300rs and will be buying these the day they go on sale for the US. Can.not.wait.
Thanks for the video, you guys are awesome!
Flying Dutchman My pleasure ! These are a great set of pedals to add to the T300.
Thanks for the review of these pedals and for your T300 review.
My T300 arrives in a couple of days, I'm upgrading from a G27 and I'll be able to get a set of these pedals in a couple of weeks!
Happy days :)
who else thinks thrustmaster should make a handbrake to attach to any T series wheel, I do drifting and a handbrake would be amazing to use
You can use the Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter in Sequental mode as a handbrake. and even use a second Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter as gear.
Like Joystick. you can feel like Rally driver.
Miguel_Dominic it's coming... Thrustmaster sparco shifter & hand brake
Mannskee 209 when will it come?? u serious?
LA Salvanera yes coming soon as a part of the sparco series. Not sure when but I'm waiting for it too.
Great review Daren definitely looking to upgrade to a set of these at some point .
Dave Imagamegeek THanks so much !
I'm going to buy this for my TX as soon as it releases.
nice. when i can I'll be upgrading from a g27 to t300rs and these pedals for sure!
Thank you for your fantastic videos it has helped me alot, thurstmaster is now my choice of wheels but I still love fanatec!
I just ordered this dew days ago because of your detailed review. I was planning to buy the csr-e but it is $100cdn more due to my location(CAAANADA haha). Giid thing there was a thrustmaster seller that shipped with in Canada,that alone save me atleast 80 bucks..
Awesome review Darin
Just what I've been waiting for! Great!
this is perfect! i couldnt find a set of t500 pedals on ebay and the csr elite pedals were too expensive for me, definitely going to buy these
For anyone looking to get these, they do sell a usb adapter now.
"Thrustmaster usb vg trj12"
I have one of these and they are GREAT.
Why anyone would consider buying the standard T3PA after seeing these in the flesh i do not know.
They are heaps and bounds way better construction than the originals and way heavier too.
Can't comment on usage as i'm gonna have to wait until weekend to mount these beauties...
All i can say is if your on the fence about which to buy - go the extra mile and get these on build quality alone.
Just had mine arrive today, looking forward to using them. I bought mainly on this review
How you finding them 5 months in? Would you recommend them?
+matt briers definitely braking is much easier much more feel and you feel like you can actually jump on the pedals without them snapping beneath you. Helped loads with GTPES with no ABS the feel was there which it wasn't beforehand with the regular set.
+Adam Wareham Ah right, good to know! I'm looking at upgrading from my Logitech G27 wheel to something a little better. I was going to go down the t500rs rout which comes with these pedals (well.. Pretty much the same) but I think I'll get the t300rs instead and just buy these pedals. With the t300rs being newer and cheaper it looks like the better option. Thanks for the reply!
+matt briers yh every review i've read says the T300 is better than the 500. Upgrade to these pedals and you've got the best of both. Also the T300 can be used on PS4 as well
+Adam Wareham Yeah that would work great! As I'm a PlayStation/PC guy myself. think this is what I'm going to go for then, thanks :)
Darin, love your videos. I have the T300 alcantara wheel with the standard T3PA pedals. I love the rig but the clutch and throttle just don't offer enough resistance when driving, it takes away the realism for me a little bit. Do the pro pedals give more pushback in the clutch and accelerator pedal? They're going for £100 at the moment on Box website. Worth the buy?
It's the same amount of resistance. - John
Good thing I already have the T500RS, I would've been mad if they came out with better pedals hah
Too bad the T3PA or the T3PA Pro are so hard to find in the Netherlands. There is only one shop that offers the T3PA but those have a base price of 100 euro's and they ask 169 euro's just because they are so hard to come by. It would be nice if they would become available at more stores so the prices drop a bit. The T3PA Pro's are being sold fo 250 euro's. If i add another 150 or something i have the full T500 set
Good review, and great shirt, Darin!
***** Thanks !
+Inside Sim Racing Could you tell me what Load Cell mod you prefer for these pedals? Ricomotech or BLC? ...and I found it interesting that within the video you seemed to prefer these pedals without a load cell mod; why exactly is that -- the extra cost only?
I was looking at a set of t500 pedals, but now I'll wait and save £50! Thanks :)
i bought these pedals and initially enjoyed them, but after a while i have felt the clutch start to rattle when pushed to which i fixed by wrapping a rubber band round the support strip and the pedal stem... i also have now felt rattling in the brake and will most likely have to add a rubber band around the throttle and brake stem to add extra tension to stop this rattling feeling... hope no one else has had these problems i've only used these pedals a couple of times in the last few days too.
Do you think it's worth the money for the T300,t3pa pro, and shifter? For what it is.
+EscapeTheFate22 yes, as G27/29 have weak motors and will let you down in some games{on PC}
An usb adapter will also be usefull if you use a normal desk for your wheel mount. I hate to have all those cables running over my desk. The pedals running directly to my PC instead of the wheelbase is what I need!
Good review. Pedals are hard to get in europe. The only dutch shop retails them for 250€ at the moment which I won't buy.
If you have a wheel stand PRO you have to buy the rgs module on the website to mount them in inverted
Hi. Good review. Do you think these will work on a RaceRoom seat? Will it work inverted as well? Also why do you invert the pedals? Is it because of the style of game you're playing or does it just feel more natural?
Well most cars actually have pedals inverted like this tbh.
Thanks
Hi Darin, Loving your reviews.
Do these pedals feel much different/better in game than the T500 ones? Thanks.
***** Thanks so much ! Besides the conical brake mod, they are identical.
Great review Darin. As usuall. These pedals look very nice. I love how simple yet very good the brake mod looks. I wouldn't necessarily say these are better than the clubsport pedals but they definetely aren't overpriced and are invertable. Are we going to see from you some coverage of the new sim updates like AC 1.1 or rFactor 2 build 930?
MrThiefff1910 Thanks ! AC 1.1 for sure but not too sure about rF2 build 930. I'll probably cover whats going on in GSC Extreme, Raceroom and Project Cars before getting back to rF2.
Inside Sim Racing Yes GSCE had some awesome updates. I love the Metalmoro on Spielberg combination. And the Formula Vee on on Cascavel is such a blast. It is so rewarding when you hold the car on the edge using throttle on those long fast corners. And there is a lot going on in AC with the new updates and DLC. The AI sucks though. Looking forward for your videos.
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. Is this pedals set compatible with the PlaySeat Evolution?
Thanks for the review, very interesting as usual. I would like to know a couple of things. First, about accelerator and clutch. On standard T3PA there are different weights for each one as you can't invert them. So clutch has 5 kg spring that is double of the accelerator spring that is 2.5 kg. I assume that with the T3PA PRO they have the same weight so you can invert them. I don't know if I'm right.
Second question is if the conical brake mode is just similar between the two set or there are some slight differences they have made. Thank you
I have a deal lined up for a used set of T500 pedals, just to confirm but will they still work with the TRJ12 USB Adapter? Would be $100 Canadian shipped+$28.24 ($24.99+13% tax) Canadian I paid for the adapter.
Nice video !
Couple of questions though: How does the T3PA pro compare to the original one ? I've been waiting on the normal ones for a few months now, but seeing how it takes for ever to have them in stock I'm considering buying the pro version instead, but it costs quite a lot of money.
Second question: does the T3PA pro fit on the Playseat Evolution ?
mathcachaille Thanks for the compliment ! You may need to remove that bar for them to fit and I doubt you can invert them on the Evo.
They are very similar to the standard T3PA pedals. I hear they will be in stock soon though and they will fit no problem on the Evolution. You can't go wrong with either set.
Inside Sim Racing Thank you for the response. Apparently Playseat Evolution is good for the T3PA pro/T500rs pedals type, but since the stock T3PA is basically the same as the pro version (without inversion), I guess I'll stick with the normal T3PA.
Thanks again for your advice !
I just hope I can find one of these when released! :( I have had such bad luck finding the normal one and still have the stock two pedal setup with shifter. I always wondered about that brace also because my rig does not support it......Great review! Must have them around the time of project cars
I pre-ordered them april 3rd. They are out of stock now and are not shipping my order, despite having pre-ordered two weeks before release. Was it available on amazon at an earlier time?
I already have the regular T3PA set. I like them, they have the same conical rubber brake mod as the PRO, and I am not a big fan of an inverted setup. So am I right if I say this is a very nice upgrade from the standard 2-pedal set (T300RS) but is NOT if you already have the normal T3PA set?
Serge McGraw In your case, since you don't want to invert, there's really no need to get these pedals. They are a huge upgrade for those that have the standard 2 pedal set in the TX and T300
Is it normal to only see ~50% of max pedal travel in the Thrustmaster profiler software after installing the black rubber conical mod? I understand that I can set the "max" travel by calibrating the pedals in-game, but I just want to make sure I didn't install it wrong. Seems like I should have more travel to work with.
Nice review and thoughts Darin, Thanks.
GamingLegends Thanks for the compliment and for watching !
I'm buying all this stuff because of your videos. I'm wondering if the clutch is a waste though. It doesn't seem to be used that often. In other vids too...
024DJF Thanks for watching ! I use it for coming off the line in standing starts or leaving the pits. It does get a lot less use than my throttle and brake.
What is the biggest difference between the normal t3pa and the pro?
How durable is the brake mod? Ordered the T300rs and will probably pick these up too.
Gary Singh very.. I can't see it failing
Just bought a set of these pedals for my GT Sport set up.
Tnk you for the information I have a t500rs it is good or not because I hearing on TH-cam that model t500rs has a high temperature problem and some times the steering when I start it the steering do 1/4 rounds non stop
Thnk you for respond
My question is, Can you put your own pedal plates on it? Let's say I have a specific type of plate on my car, and would like to hve the same type on my sim rig.
Hi Darin, how's the clutch on these pedals? I've not really found much online about it. Seeing that the accelerator and clutch are the same... I have g27 pedals with my t300 atm, how does the clutch compare to the g27 clutch. Thanks! And great review!
swquinn770 There's not a certain amount of progression to them. The same feel as the throttle since you can invert.
Inside Sim Racing Thanks a lot. As soon as they're back in stock I'll be upgrading thanks to your review. Had been holding out for some clubsports but the recent EU price hike put me right off.
Do they just plug into where the original pedals plug in ?
Hi, I've just bought a 2nd hand set. The guy before me used them in gt position but I want to change them to F1 position. Question is how does the set up/game/base/console recognise the accelerator and clutch pedals been changed round.
I dont want to be using the gas with my left foot, what do I need to do please, thank you.
Should I get these or the Fanatec CSR Elite? Or some other pedals? I've got the Thrustmaster T300RS (I know I would need to get an adapter for the Fanatec pedals) and I'm going to get the Next Level Racing Wheel Stand sometime in the future so that I can use my gear stick.
ClassicFuel I talked to a friend and decided to go with the T3PA pedals due to it being less of a hassle to set up each time I want to use the wheel.
I'm still waiting for the standard T3PA pedals to become available. I want to use my TH8 in gated mode as I find myself wishing the sequential mode had some kind of feedback when shifting.
When Fanatec come out with a product with compatibility for this console generation (I have a PC and PS3/4) I hope it won't make me regret going with Thrustmaster.
I wish Logitech were still in the game or someone would step up to replace them. I like having more choice than either or. Plus I like finding out about new gear when it is announced/released so I'd have more to look at.
Does this work with the TMX? It’s probably overkill for my wheel but hey in need better pedals 😅
Darin, do you know if the standard T3PA pedals have been released in the UK? I can't find them anywhere.
Can I fit them GT style in the Rseat RS1? I know standard T3PA pedals are compatible but Rseat website doesn't report anything about the T3PA pro
Which is better, buy T300 Ferrari GTE (with T3PA included in the kit) or buy T300 RS and T3PA Pro separately?
+SGT EpicSpeed It's simply a matter of preference. I bought the T300RS with the standard pedals and am getting a set of T3PA Pro's to add on to the set. The standard T3PA's are great but with the Pro you get the choice of F1 style or GT style when you mount the pedals. Either way, you can't really go wrong.
are the pedals heavier on this compared to the t3pa? I find the t3pa is quite light pedals dont know whether to upgrade to the pro.
nice one. These will do nicely for my setup. Hope i will have no issues with GTultimate V2 cockpit.
gothicvillasgaming They will fit just fine
Is this set is basically the T3PA just with a nicer casing or is there something different in the inside structure too (except of the upside down mounting of course)?
+KMerse1 don't know, it's a good question, as any additional solidity can increase performance{lap times}.
No, they are a much better set of pedals and don't compare. They are very similar to the t500rs pedals which are absolutely excellent so I would go for the Pro
What racing wheels is the T3PA and the TH8A gearbox compatible with?
Would they also work with the t150? Thx.
What is the difference between the T3PA and the T3PA-PRO except for being able to invert the PRO and that te PRO is made mostly from metal?
Martijn Romeijnders thats about it
Great review Darin.. Looking for a upgrade to replase my g27 pedals.. So where can I get the USB adapter for theese? and will the resolution be the same using the adapter?
Cady72dk You would actually need two adapters for these to work as a stand alone USB set.. This one sim-sport.net/sr-1-chassis.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=38&category_id=6 and this one sim-sport.net/bodnar-cable.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=21&category_id=6 At least that's the way it looks. We reviewed the adapter here a while back.. th-cam.com/video/-VBvnHiX4i4/w-d-xo.htmlm7s
Cady72dk Oh and thanks for the compliment and for watching !
Inside Sim Racing Thx for the reply m8. keep up the good work on your show!
One thing frustrates me, this eco system is great. But for example it's not possible for me to order just a t300 wheel, I have to get the shitty standard pedals with it. So if I then also buy this pedals, I will have a pedal set extra..
But you buy it anyway! And that's their sales point. They make another $120 on every person that wants s clutch
Naut Applicable they make money on everyone!!! i dont use clutch and yet i cant use the stock pedals that comes with t300 or tx ... very few will buy such a good wheel without getting a good set of pedals :/ the stock pedals are just their way of making the wheel ready to use.
Hi Darin! I'm thinking of buying either these or the "standard" T3PA pedals to go with my T300RS. I don't need inverted pedals. Which of the two should I buy? Please help! :)
RikuKS Hey! I bought the t3pa pedals a week ago and within 2 days of use, the throttle pedal mechanism broke. So I returned it and got the t3pa pro. Trust me the $50 makes all the difference. Go for the t3pa pro!!!
I have these from the 500. When the pots started going bad I replaced them with the CSR Elite Pedals. I think the CSR's beat them, especially the brake.
The T3PA-Pro's stay in place better. The CSR's need anchoring. But the 500/T3PA-Pro Pedals are a menagerie of sharp metal edges that are hell on bare feet. The only ergonomic issue with the CSR Elites is I don' the ridge at the front of the foot rest just behind the lower part of the pedals. It can be hard on the balls of the feet.
I use them with the TM 500 Wheel and 8a Shifter.
FrustratedNameSearch You haven't tried them with the conical brake mod though ;-)
Will that pedal setup install onto the Omega GT Wheel Stand ? Or the Wheel Stand Pro V2 ? Thanks
What is the resolution of these pedals? (you said 1024 but you were not sure, right?) and can I improve their resolution if I buy an adapter?
How much of an different makes these pedal against the t3pa? Thinking about to upgrade and buy these ones....anybody know? And i can use them with my t300rs ferrari integral edition?
thanks for the review! does anyone know if the standard T3PA can also be inverted using the mode botton?? those are really hard to find and im thinking to buy a set of standard T3PA and mount them upside down!!
Hello, I was wondering whether you could comment on whether these are worth the price difference over the regular T3PA pedals? I will have the regular T3PA pedals once I buy a TX Leather edition so i was wondering if its worth the upgrade? Are the Pro pedals any more sensitive or have any higher resolution on the pedal inputs?
+yidavs2010 If you're already getting the T3PAs, I would stick with those. Only reason for you to upgrade would be if you planned to invert them
+Inside Sim Racing So they perform and feel the same, the only difference is that the PROs are made entirely of metal and can be inverted, right?
I have these pedals and they are good but I find the clutch and accelerator pedals are way too light and do not give a realistic feel at all. I find I cannot drive this pedal set with shoes on (bare feet only) because I just get no feel in the accelerator for partial throttle application. I know you can get aftermarket stiffer springs for the clutch and accelerator but its a significant 'Con' that was not mentioned in the review.
With the conical mod, if it doesn’t travel as far, how do you get 100% braking? Does it need recalibration?
randallpatrickc Most racing games accepts 2/3 input as a 100% braking by default.
Can I put these pedals inverted on Rseat W-Stand? Definitely buying these pedals for my t300rs.
Also you should try to review this Rseat W-Stand. It's great wheel stand, much better than GT Omega, Next level wheel stand or wheel stand v2.
BandW1897 Not sure but I would assume so.
is it compatible with T150?
yes it is
ReuphTop yes ;)
Riley Barker no
Ivan Jarolím thank u thank u and one more time thank u haha. My pedals just became lose again so yeah 😡
What ab the different pressures on the clutch and gas, will the clutch just be super light and gas be stronger when you invert them?
g27 ftw. they re not being made and i have to say im so fucking happy i bought it. 200 euros as it was on discount at the time i bought it.
best shit ever, some might be a bit better, but they are alot more expensive. g27 comes complete, and with every other steering wheel you have to buy a shift gear, and most of the times new pedals because they dont have the clutch.
g27 has it all. 200 euros is a hell of a bargain. GG
For that money i would still go for the Fanatec Clubsport V2's Just a little bit more expensive but better product in my view.
Would you still choose these over the clubsport v3 Pedals?
James M i have these t3pa pro, they are even near the cs v3 quality, and the cs have load cell brake,.these dont.
did you mean to say that these "AREN'T" even near the club sport ones?
I look so much forward to sebring
Amazing review Daren, i have a Gt Omega Pro cockpit and im afraid that the pedals won't fit in. Is there a way to remove the black rectangle from the pedals? Thanks!
+Mauricio Vargas Thanks ! Yes, you can.. There's a C clip that holds it on. You can remove it and the black bar.
+Inside Sim Racing Wait.. So will these pedals Work with the GT Omega when inverted?
You should see how much they going for now crazy!!!
Can anyone tell me what real life car groups use suspended style? I hear F1 cars use the floor mount style, but I dont know about GT3, GT2, and GT1. I assume Gr. 4 in Gran Turismo Sport (not sure if this is a real life car group) uses suspended style because that is what most road cars use.
Anyone know which real life car groups use what pedal position? I was thinking GT style for Gr4 and below, F1 style for Gr2 and above. Not sure about Gr3. I'm just guessing though.
Do you think these pedals work even with a Wheel Stand Pro? I have it but I don't know if I will still be able to brake with my left foot when I play F1
I would like to know also
Of course it does. If you mount the pedals GT Style, you need a metal plate to mount the pedals, also available at the Thrustmaster page for a few bucks. If you like it in F1 Mode, just attach the pedals the same way as the standard pedals.
Does the T.RJ12 Adapter work with T500 pedals? I'm being sent over a set soon, and since I have a DFGT, I'm gonna need them to be standalone.
+SMauler9 It should
Is it worth upgrading from the t3pa? I'm about to buy my first PS4 set up for F1 2016/project cars grand tourismo etc. I'm interested in the t300 alcantara edition that comes with the t3pa. Is there a package that includes the t3pa pro with the t300? So I don't have to buy it separately.
Nvm, Amazon just had a price drop so I was able to buy the t300 base, Ferrari alcantara rim, and t3pa pro for the same price as the t300 integral alcantara set
Would these work with the TS-XW? If not how can I make it work?
So are the T3PA and the T3PA PRO technically at the same level? And do the pedals feel identical? Thx
Remo Niekrenz They are very similar yes.. Biggest difference is the ability to invert the Pro version
Hey I just bought the thrustmaster tmx pro racing wheel set for a start on the racing scene.are these pedals compatible with that racing wheel set
Inside Sim Racing I have a 458 spider wheel for the Xbox one and was wondering if I can all the ecosystem parts pike wheel stand and the shifter and pedals
I preordered these in the U.S. on Amazon in March and now my shipping date keeps getting pushed into late May. Any word on what's holding up the release availability? Also can't find them available anywhere else.
Edit that....now it's showing expected shipping into June. That's well past the updated release of Project Cars of a May 8th. What gives?
evh347 I received mine today from shopblt dotcom. They were out when i ordered but they received them to ship on the expected date. They were reliable for me and were delivered within 2 days.
Do you have to press that button to put the pedals into "inverted mode" every time you power up? Small thing but annoying if you do,,,
phinds1 Nope, it stays in the mode you select
Inside Sim Racing
Ok thanks for the quick response!!!
im not happy... i just bought the TP3A pedals.. considering selling them for these.. any suggestions?
Chris Lamborghini If I were you I wouldn't do it. You are gonna lose money and get the same performance as the TP3A.
+TheVblaster Don't chat shit mate
+matt briers The only difference between the TP3A and TP3A-Pro it's that the TP3A-Pro can be inverted and the chassis is made of metal. Their resolutions, adjustability and feeling are the same, also both of them come with the conical brake mod. FYI I have a T500RS set but I also had the opportunity to try the TP3A pedals.
Why the f is it so much more expensive in europe?!
VAT
darnit... well gotta save some more money then... ;)
Got mine now for 178€ on wheelstandpro.nl. They were 250 but dropped to a descend price.
hmmmm... might do that... is it much better then the normal t3pa pedal set?
Hello Niek, alles goed?
The T3PA-Pro can't be compared to the original pedals that came with the T300RS set. It is so much better and the feeling is so good. (I use the Pro pedals in GT Style and it really improved my lap times (On SPA 3 seconds). I have heard the T3PA are also nice but the plastic base was holding me off. The T3PA-Pro is about 7Kg and doesn't move while the default pedals were a pain to keep on the same place even with stuff holding it from sliding backwards.
Maybe you can arrange a visit @ wheelstandpro (your name seems dutch) to try them out?
They delivered mine in just one day.
I'm interested in getting these as a standalone to use with my Clubsport wheel. As a matter of fact I've already ordered them. I just noticed in your video there is a button on the T500 wheel to switch from F1 position to GT/Rally. Will it be possible to switch modes with the Bodner adaptor?
Marshall Williams Since they will be stand alone pedals, it won't matter. You can have them anyway you want.
Inside Sim Racing Awesome! Thanks! Great show!
So guys. I wanna buy a new pedal set right now. Because I lock up while braking in Assetto Corsa (with G27 pedals). Which one is the best choice? Fanatec Clubsport V2 Pedals or Thrustmaster T3PA-PRO Pedals?
Sinan Topaloğlu You can only use these pedals with a Thrustmaster wheel unless you buy adapters to plug them into a USB port
I already know this. Thank you again. But regarding to my question, CSP V2 or T3PA-PRO? Which one is better?
Do u guys think upgrade from t3pa to t3pa is worth it?
Darín, i have a t300 rs with the t3pa and i Want to upgrade mi pedals set, are this t3pa pro better than the normal t3pa, should I upgrade?
Thank you
not worth the upgrade really, if you want something a step up try to CSL Elite LC pedals
are these compatible with the Thrustmaster TMX pro racing wheel?