Etching a few rocks with muriatic acid and then breaking them in an attempt to collect interesting garnet clusters. Please do not attempt this without proper safety equipment and training.
I broke up some of that green feldspar yesterday and I cut a 1 gallon plastic milk jug in half and used the bottom half to place the rock it so when it broke up it did not fly all over and onto the floor. I also placed a large rag.. (old tee shirt) over it once I positioned my chizel to keep fragments from flying up into my face. It worked great.. not great for a video but it sure did work well. The container was placed on the flat anvil portion of a large vice but any really hard surface will work. The shock is what cracks the rock so the surface has to be very hard and vibratiion free.
These grey and white rocks that you are breaking for the garnets, what are they? Are they an ore? They some what resemble iron ore? ? Or do they? When you see the purplish splotches in these rocks can you automatically know they are a certain rock? I hope I made sense.
Does acid bath work on anytype of rock ? I have a crystal rock, It’s transparent type of quartz looking. But very dirty, would the acid bath help to clean it up ?
It has nothing to do with hardness and fully with what minerals are affected or not affected by the type of acid in use. You can look up "mineral solubility table" to get an idea. Hope that. makes sense
What I discovered is that if the rocks oxidized, they can be harden by introducing carbon and heat, you can even extract metal by crushing and mixing it with charcoal.
How can you remove ruby that is inside a mother rock ? Can muriatic acid be used ? Am eager to know have rubies but attached with other stone covers and I want to remove the cover stones please advise me thank you.
That might be kinda rough on tires., but I bet was really attractive. Sounds like a place I would like to do some rock hunting. I know someone who got a flat driving over broken quartz on a mine road.
Quick question, Im actually using a product called Safe Etch, an alternative to using muriatic but for the same purpose as concrete etching. Am using it on kyanite samples that have glittery mica schist all over them. Do you think it will do the same??
I don't know what it is called in Turkey, but here it is sold in hardware stores as Muriatic Acid. Also known as HCL, hydrochloric acid or spirits of salt. It is used quite often to clean swimming pools.
I cannot read what I found with a quick Google search, but it looks like one name brand there is Tureng. Careful with the concentration - Yours might be stronger than we get here, in which case, you will want to dilute it with water quite a bit. Good luck with your project. Don't breath the fumes and immediately wash up if you get any on your skin.
If he would have got some, iron off from Walmart they would have cleaned up and stood out perfectly clear. Cheap at walmart. Probably found where limeaway and cleaners like that. They also use vinegar which takes a week or so and don't work that we'll but alittle.
If you find a high temperature vapor chamber, then you can coat the low quality rocks in titanium vapor at 800 and it will result in bright color stones.
we will like to know what kind of acid you used and also we will like to know how much time you used in each bath, are you going to take your samples to any mineral lab for a quantitative and qualitative chemical determination? Roberto Pizano
HCL or muriatic acid. It is used to clean swimming pools. I dilute it. Be careful not to breath the fumes or get any splashes on your skin or eyes. The amount of time will depend on the kind and size of rock.
Will this technique work on porous rocks with green gemstones? Who do I contact to help me make an engagement ring out of this particular gem? I've tried to talk to jewelers but they all must think I'm crazy 😔
Look up "mineral solubility table" to see what minerals are affected, sightly affected and not affected by various acids. The key is to dissolve unwanted affected minerals, leaving behind the wanted affected. Good luck with your project
Most of the etching occurs in the first 0.5-1.0 hours. After that, things slow down quite a bit. Really, how long things take depend on the individual rock and the dilution of the solution.
HD has it. Also hardware stores. Sometimes it is cheaper at a pool supply store (it is used to clean swimming pools). Be careful when you use muriatic....especially don't get the fumes into your lungs or the concentrate onto your skin.
It is muriatic acid (HCL). I can purchase in Canada at most big box stores, hardware stores or swimming pool supply. I am aware that it might not be available for sale to the general public in other countries. In that case, you can use vinegar which works but is slower.
Damn Where do you live? Around the seven minutes mark the birds are insanely beautiful. I need that Zen! Awesome videos and really cool rocks that rock Wear as much PPE as possible when messing around with that acid. I’m sure my lungs are full of holes that the asbestos and Crystalline silicone hasn’t destroy and that’s all. I have known many friends throughout the year with lost eyes to holes burned through their foot Swimming pool service and stone and tile trades Are rough.
I am north east of Toronto, Canada. Stay safe. The body can recover from some of the abuses, but not all. Asbestos is especially nasty and takes about 20 years.
Lots of limestone as in Tobemory (once connected). Generally not very exciting other then the dolostone (dolomite limestone) unique to the area and few other locations. The shorelines are littered with many different verities of rock pushed ashore by wave action and ice. DEER ! Let's just say that I have never missed a deer season on the island in 40 years😀
The family farm was in Wiarton. If you can believe it, I have never rockhounded there, other than grab some of the flat rocks for paths. There are now some quarries in the area and I know the owners. It might be interesting to see if any of the exposures are vuggy. I might be up there in the spring for turkey.
Nice video! Im not having any luck with using muriatic acid with my rocks. Seems like its not working and I ended up using it full strength. Still not much change any suggestions?
Look up mineral solubility table. You will see what rocks are affected or not affected by various acids. Probably, you are trying to etch a mineral that isn't affected such as quartz in HCL
I like looking at rocks but pictures are a difficult way to ID. Best to also get hardness, location and other tests. First thing is make sure "sparkly" isn't mica.
So my son started collecting rocks recently after a rough patch in life. Of course they are all pocket size pieces but they came from up in the eastern sierras. He wants to see if he has anything he can give me to help him make grandma's and aunties a necklace or bracelet or something. How can we do what you just did for smaller rocks? To him your "driveway" specimens are a big deal. Help me reveal something special for him!
@@meMiner I don't know anything. Spend quite a few hours online trying to figure it out but I just confused myself more. I'm not even sure we have any minerals. Could all just be rock for all I know! I'm so lost.
I hear ya. It isn't easy, especially when most of the pictures are perfect specimens. The bottom line is - if you like a rock, that is all that matters. One suggestion is to join a local rock and mineral club. Usually, the people there are really helpful and there might be club field trips.
Vinegar is pretty safe to use. I do it outside so no fumes in the house and I dispose of the vinegar afterwards so any minerals in the solution are not where kids or animals can get at it.
Instead of smashing a multicolored rock with a hammer, why not cut it into slabs and then into cabochons? It seems such a waste to turn a multicolored rock into gravel. You could have had some beautiful pieces that someone could have made into jewelry.
Come to my place... Pick as much as rock... U want... Take 70 and give me 30 percent of the profit.... 👊👊we can go to river sides and stream side hav beer too
Since I'm not expert in Rock I can't say.... But I see many types of pebble colour, small and big rocks.... Every where..... If you want to see I can Watts up you..... I can show you mountain, rivers,waterfall ,creeks, jungles and earthquake areas all world full of Rock's 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣But if you take anything and sell 70/30😝😝😝😝😝
@@meMiner i really like the etching with hcl videos! its really addictive to watch! i hope you make more! im a second year chemistry student and i like to speculate what reactions are accuring :)
Really fun to watch! I'm so glad I found your channel. :)
I have so much fun doing this. Thanks for your nice words.
Always a pleasure watching you. you're so witty.
Nice rocks!!!. Man oh man, I must find garnets!!! And so informative. Thank you!
I sure did enjoy that. Thank you meMiner!
Ahh Marmoraton garnets!! Nice!! I like all your rocks from Cobalt stacked up in the background when you were chiseling the bigger piece!! LOL!!
Brought that's gonna brake how do you not know that bro you are so so so stupid I bet yoh don't even have a brain
There's not much finer than the channel MeMiner , Thanks for another great informational video Greig .
Driveway rock! I love it! I've called some field passings: "Leaverite" as in "Leave 'r right there".
It is a levarite! what my brother would call or leave it right there. There is some quartz, but nothing worth carrying home.
nerd
Oh your analogies are just pure comedic gold. 🤣🤣
So cool! Thanks for sharing!
Always loved rocks, new to rock hounding, nice to stumble upon cool content like yours!
Awesome, thank you!
I love to hear the natural sound of nature❤️❤️❤️❤️ how relaxing
Instead of throwing out my mixed nut containers from Costco, I’ll use them to soak rocks. I just happen to notice..... love your videos btw
I met a guy who used them for his small pieces of silver that he found metal detecting. I copied him. ;-)
Beautiful garnets
Your teeth/jaw analogy is a true thing of beauty! Spot on in relaying your point.
Thanks
I wanna see his driveway lol
I broke up some of that green feldspar yesterday and I cut a 1 gallon plastic milk jug in half and used the bottom half to place the rock it so when it broke up it did not fly all over and onto the floor. I also placed a large rag.. (old tee shirt) over it once I positioned my chizel to keep fragments from flying up into my face. It worked great.. not great for a video but it sure did work well. The container was placed on the flat anvil portion of a large vice but any really hard surface will work. The shock is what cracks the rock so the surface has to be very hard and vibratiion free.
These grey and white rocks that you are breaking for the garnets, what are they? Are they an ore? They some what resemble iron ore? ? Or do they? When you see the purplish splotches in these rocks can you automatically know they are a certain rock? I hope I made sense.
Im really enjoying these acid bath videos. Its interesting to see how they come out.
Thanks. I have a great deal of fun making them. I like all and appreciate all constructive feedback.
Plus it gives you a chance to try out that beautiful knew chisel
Love these videos new to this
How do you clean them up after the acid to look natural again ?
Thank you
Either leave them out in the weather for a long while or give them a short bath in white (table) vinegar.
Does acid bath work on anytype of rock ? I have a crystal rock, It’s transparent type of quartz looking. But very dirty, would the acid bath help to clean it up ?
Various types of acid will affect or slightly affect some minerals and not others
really your filling the driveway with rock, for free, sort of a long days work n travel time, grab a bucket for the driveway, too
So the muriatic acid took off the white calcite but didn't hurt the garnet and epidot at all? If so, why? Is calcite much softer on the Mohs scale?
It has nothing to do with hardness and fully with what minerals are affected or not affected by the type of acid in use. You can look up "mineral solubility table" to get an idea. Hope that. makes sense
What I discovered is that if the rocks oxidized, they can be harden by introducing carbon and heat, you can even extract metal by crushing and mixing it with charcoal.
I have read about hardening, but have never tried it.
How can you remove ruby that is inside a mother rock ? Can muriatic acid be used ? Am eager to know have rubies but attached with other stone covers and I want to remove the cover stones please advise me thank you.
A mates driveway rocks were slabs of 2" amethyst crystals purple coloured.
That might be kinda rough on tires., but I bet was really attractive. Sounds like a place I would like to do some rock hunting. I know someone who got a flat driving over broken quartz on a mine road.
The slabs were on the sides.
shadystorage tim “liked” in a positive way! Poor drivers!
Quick question, Im actually using a product called Safe Etch, an alternative to using muriatic but for the same purpose as concrete etching. Am using it on kyanite samples that have glittery mica schist all over them. Do you think it will do the same??
I doubt it will touch the mica.
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Thanks for share and knowlodge buddy.
Would you tale me what kind of ACİD did use ?
Salute from Turkey.
I don't know what it is called in Turkey, but here it is sold in hardware stores as Muriatic Acid. Also known as HCL, hydrochloric acid or spirits of salt. It is used quite often to clean swimming pools.
It is called ''tuz ruhu'' Buddy in Turkey. Thanks a lot.
I cannot read what I found with a quick Google search, but it looks like one name brand there is Tureng. Careful with the concentration - Yours might be stronger than we get here, in which case, you will want to dilute it with water quite a bit. Good luck with your project. Don't breath the fumes and immediately wash up if you get any on your skin.
Thank you friend for your knowledges and admonitions.
If he would have got some, iron off from Walmart they would have cleaned up and stood out perfectly clear. Cheap at walmart. Probably found where limeaway and cleaners like that. They also use vinegar which takes a week or so and don't work that we'll but alittle.
I'm curious do you do this to find valuable ones to sell? Is that the goal? Or is it for hobby/personal collecting?
I do this out of interest and for fun.
Ummm I need some of this acid asap. I find rocks with garnets chilling in them all the time. (Southern NY)
If you find a high temperature vapor chamber, then you can coat the low quality rocks in titanium vapor at 800 and it will result in bright color stones.
Cause ery'bodys got a high temperature vapor chamber laying around the local community center..... 😐
we will like to know what kind of acid you used and also we will like to know how much time you used in each bath, are you going to take your samples to any mineral lab for a quantitative and qualitative chemical determination?
Roberto Pizano
HCL or muriatic acid. It is used to clean swimming pools. I dilute it. Be careful not to breath the fumes or get any splashes on your skin or eyes. The amount of time will depend on the kind and size of rock.
Where are you finding these? What state? Very cool!
Oh duh...canada. Lol.
Right. The mine is in southern Ontario. We get lots of US rockhounds up here.
Canada, dear.
Colors might not be coming through accurately...are those garnets red?
The garnet from this site are black
Ihave a couple of small field stone that are smooth,dark with those squiggly lines throughout them,looks like worm tracks lol
SIO - usually better than the acid, depends on the specimen
Amazing garnets. :)
Will this technique work on porous rocks with green gemstones? Who do I contact to help me make an engagement ring out of this particular gem? I've tried to talk to jewelers but they all must think I'm crazy 😔
Look up "mineral solubility table" to see what minerals are affected, sightly affected and not affected by various acids. The key is to dissolve unwanted affected minerals, leaving behind the wanted affected. Good luck with your project
How long was the acid bath for the minerals?
Most of the etching occurs in the first 0.5-1.0 hours. After that, things slow down quite a bit. Really, how long things take depend on the individual rock and the dilution of the solution.
Very nice. Do you ever find gold
I found gold once and made a video for TH-cam. It was not very much, but was gold.
Do you have facebook videos?
Would love to share them. Very well made !
I don't use facebook much.
What is mutate acid ?😕😕😕😕👍
I need more help for safety ..thank you ...I have rocks with different colors inside like gems
How can I help you?
DUDE! You have me doing this. Not acid but vinegar. Now acid? What is that? Home depot? Expensive?
HD has it. Also hardware stores. Sometimes it is cheaper at a pool supply store (it is used to clean swimming pools). Be careful when you use muriatic....especially don't get the fumes into your lungs or the concentrate onto your skin.
I missed one part to my reply. LOL It is not too expensive. It comes in different sized bottles. 4L is about $15-$18 CDN plus tax.
Ok! Thanks. How can I show you what I have?
My email is tess99991rocks@gmail.com
tess99991
Ok. My email begins with my name
Gayle...thanks!
So many compounds u think u can get mercury poisoning?
Mercury for these kind of rocks is unlikely.
i have the same but cant take it off because very strong
What is this type of acid? What is the raw material used to make the acid? Or can I buy acid?
It is muriatic acid (HCL). I can purchase in Canada at most big box stores, hardware stores or swimming pool supply. I am aware that it might not be available for sale to the general public in other countries. In that case, you can use vinegar which works but is slower.
Maybe we can find gemstones like this? Is it possible?
yes
Damn Where do you live? Around the seven minutes mark the birds are insanely beautiful. I need that Zen!
Awesome videos and really cool rocks that rock Wear as much PPE as possible when messing around with that acid. I’m sure my lungs are full of holes that the asbestos and Crystalline silicone hasn’t destroy and that’s all. I have known many friends throughout the year with lost eyes to holes burned through their foot Swimming pool service and stone and tile trades
Are rough.
I am north east of Toronto, Canada. Stay safe. The body can recover from some of the abuses, but not all. Asbestos is especially nasty and takes about 20 years.
tess99991 I live in the west end of toronto. I get most of my specimens while visiting my hunt camp on Manitoulin Island.
I have heard Manitoulin has some great rock collecting. Great deer hunting too. I have not been there since I was a kid.
Lots of limestone as in Tobemory (once connected). Generally not very exciting other then the dolostone (dolomite limestone) unique to the area and few other locations.
The shorelines are littered with many different verities of rock pushed ashore by wave action and ice.
DEER ! Let's just say that I have never missed a deer season on the island in 40 years😀
The family farm was in Wiarton. If you can believe it, I have never rockhounded there, other than grab some of the flat rocks for paths. There are now some quarries in the area and I know the owners. It might be interesting to see if any of the exposures are vuggy. I might be up there in the spring for turkey.
Nice video! Im not having any luck with using muriatic acid with my rocks. Seems like its not working and I ended up using it full strength. Still not much change any suggestions?
Look up mineral solubility table. You will see what rocks are affected or not affected by various acids. Probably, you are trying to etch a mineral that isn't affected such as quartz in HCL
Hi I found a black sparkly rock is there anyway I could show you see what you think it could be please I can’t find anything online
I like looking at rocks but pictures are a difficult way to ID. Best to also get hardness, location and other tests. First thing is make sure "sparkly" isn't mica.
Would this process work on rhodoLITE garnet in the matrix ?
It should but I haven't tried
Does the acid dissolves the garnets???
Acid won't affect these garnets
How do I extract Cross Garnet from its matrix?
What is the matrix minerals
I have kimberlite just like a couple these....
So my son started collecting rocks recently after a rough patch in life. Of course they are all pocket size pieces but they came from up in the eastern sierras. He wants to see if he has anything he can give me to help him make grandma's and aunties a necklace or bracelet or something. How can we do what you just did for smaller rocks? To him your "driveway" specimens are a big deal. Help me reveal something special for him!
Do you know what kind of minerals are in the rocks that were collected?
@@meMiner I don't know anything. Spend quite a few hours online trying to figure it out but I just confused myself more. I'm not even sure we have any minerals. Could all just be rock for all I know! I'm so lost.
I hear ya. It isn't easy, especially when most of the pictures are perfect specimens. The bottom line is - if you like a rock, that is all that matters. One suggestion is to join a local rock and mineral club. Usually, the people there are really helpful and there might be club field trips.
How much money could you get from your rocks?
Nothing from these ones. The agreement on collecting from that site is you cannot sell them.
I know who I'm calling ( 6:25 ) when we get an infestation of vampires .
Homey gots de spikes, don't he? LOL
Why did you expect it to split where you wanted it to? Extremely rough way to handle mineral specimens. Use a trim saw.
good point.
Acid doesn't affect garnet?
no
What is acid you used?
Swimming pool muriatic acid
Look at that.
Using vinegar to get diamonds out of rocks is safe isn't it???
Vinegar is pretty safe to use. I do it outside so no fumes in the house and I dispose of the vinegar afterwards so any minerals in the solution are not where kids or animals can get at it.
look at those pretty face of garnet
I cant describe this form of rock i found
Why not Crack the rocks first before wasting acid on rocks that show nothing inside?
Cracking the rocks will break crystals if they are inside.
Rocks and gems of North Carolina
Did not know
"is hard as rock" ROFL!!!!!!
01:19 the stone had an eagle head form
2:17 my mom talking about me and my brother
Meminer are you Rich? 😎
yes
Can I have one of your driveway rocks?
You sound like garfield the cat.
LOL
I can you see verrymuch
One was a unakite
A gemstone? That would be cool.
Instead of smashing a multicolored rock with a hammer, why not cut it into slabs and then into cabochons? It seems such a waste to turn a multicolored rock into gravel. You could have had some beautiful pieces that someone could have made into jewelry.
It was winter and miserable to cut outside. I have more rock to cut at another time.
GARNET *
Call me and hurt to show you pictures and video
no water===all acid===
CALCITE *
Come to my place... Pick as much as rock... U want... Take 70 and give me 30 percent of the profit.... 👊👊we can go to river sides and stream side hav beer too
what rocks are there?
Since I'm not expert in Rock I can't say.... But I see many types of pebble colour, small and big rocks.... Every where.....
If you want to see I can Watts up you..... I can show you mountain, rivers,waterfall ,creeks, jungles and earthquake areas all world full of Rock's 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣But if you take anything and sell 70/30😝😝😝😝😝
breaking rocks in a striped shirt. hmmm
you had better ones...
For sure true. I like to show both the wins, fails and inbetweens. ;-)
@@meMiner i really like the etching with hcl videos! its really addictive to watch!
i hope you make more!
im a second year chemistry student and i like to speculate what reactions are accuring :)
I have garnets better than yours
I have collected more recently. Let's see if there are better in this batch. ;-)