Is there a reason we’re believing every word Jay-Z said but doubting everything Ye said? Not a fan of either but we know Jay has a record of screwing over the ones around him, so it’s strange the video uses his words as fact.
@@nicknmm09 because he has made moves to take millions that belongs to his artists with loopholes and shit like that or at least thats what i know i am not a huge jay z fan or kanye fan i think jay z first albums was the best when he was talking about street life and not about millionaire life
it's crazy when you were listing those early ye placements cause those don't even scratch the surface of what he's done solely as a producer. fucking legend. every now and again it's a good refresher to realize.
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@@alexhoffman7460 i'm sorry for your situation. this story, however is similar the ones i hear on the train going from nj to nyc. i hope your intentions are pure.
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Not really a fan of Kanye these days but I was able to attend the Watch the Throne tour twice and it was magical. It's rare that rappers give you a SHOW, they usually just walk back and forth the whole time lol but this one blew me away.
The best rappers tours are the ones that don’t go in just to sing their songs and be boring, they give you maybe a small freestyle and some nice feelings once u leave, they got u thinking “damn I wanna come back for another show.”
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There’s a Kanye without jayz, but he would have to reach popularity at a much later date. Kanye’s beats made blueprint fire, but blueprint made Kanye a known producer in the rap community. so yes, he’s right
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Kanye being Kanye is the most ingenious pr move that could ever be done. He thrust himself into popular culture and cemented himself as one of the most polarizing, yet still iconic, artists of our time. His career would not have been the same if had he behaved otherwise.
@@kaan4943 The question is how is he iconic? Dude made good music for a few years, then never again. He's a moronic Trump loving buffoon. Choose your icons better kid.
@@GreenEnvy. I think it goes beyond just a few good years of music. Considering he was producing hits since the mid 1990s and eventually becoming a rapper and trailblazing the hip-pop industry from 2004 - 2012 before his decline (both mental and album sale), cultivating his own unique sound now found in so many musicians styles, I think 16 - 17 years of being in the biggest circles and even often at the top of hip-pop has got to count as iconic. Not much of a fan of Kanye since Yeezus, but I can't deny his musical legacy, creative process that led to his plethora of hits and musical style that lead to a new gen of hip-pop. He was doing a lot of this stuff before Streaming and social media centric PR was as big as it is today so getting those numbers wasn't as easy either. Not to mention Kanye is on virtually every list of Most Iconic rappers of all time. From Rakim to Eminem to Tupac to JDilla & Nas, you'll find Kanye West on that list. Which is why even Hip-pop's greats like J Cole and Eminem at one stage at least looked up to Ye, like it or not.
@@uchihadeity1158 You left out the biggest problem in your argument. Kanye is the biggest plagiarist in all of hip hop. In comedy if you rip off a joke you're a joke thief. In rap if you rip off a song and put a drum beat over it you're "sampling." Kanye became famous off of other people's music. He constantly rapped over other people's music and added a drum beat so he could call it "sampling." This dude is a fraud. If you put in the time to see how many songs he ripped off of artists in the 70's, 80's, and 90's it's shocking. You can call him iconic, i'll call him what he really is, a fraud with a drum machine.
Short answer: because Jay z only attaches himself to beneficial situations and doesn’t truly know what real friendship is, he’s only concerned with his own success, he’s jealous kanye is richer/more powerful/more influential/more talented than him- and now he’s not only artistically more talented, but it’s translating into his art/creations being more valuable than Jay Z’a creations/art. Yes Jay opened the door and paved the way for many people like Ye, but Ye is the monster version of Dame Dash and Jay Z put together. He’ll make up with Kanye later when he wants something or it’s a good look for him. 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
@@Jboooog18 GAP’s stock rose 42% and they were worth 15 billion more just from an ANNOUNCEMENT that kanye was partnering with them for a line. Not even the line itself dropped... just the announcement. Bank of America, the top 2 most powerful bank in the WORLD, just CONFIRMED that Yeezy is worth in excess of 5 Billion dollars. His creations/shoes are being bought, sold and resold over and over again for more money. I’d say he’s more powerful than Jay Z. Have a good day.
@@longlivelakers8778 My exact thoughts, how are you so into this music; and you don’t know that song? It was huge, and still is one her biggest songs. These type dudes always expose themselves 🤦🏽♀️
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Kanye always sticker his neck for Jay Z, unfortunately Jay Z does not stick up for Kanye. 🤔 I know unpopular opinion. Truth is Bey and JZ don't want to associate themselves with Kim. But poor Kanye.
I've been binging your channel over the last few days, you make top-tier content and I'm very appreciative of the info you give and the way you deliver it!
One is a creative genius, one is a legendary businessman. One is willing to think freely, one does whatever Hollywood and the white man tells him to do. Stop hating Kanye. He’s an individual
Jay made so many moves himself. Created lanes. So sick if y'all bullshit. Not even truthfully speaking when y'all sat how he follows hollywood. No reality shows. Owns his own companies and doesn't wear a fucking MAGA hat. Kayne listening to a white man!!!- right??
@@mentlinc yeah the kardashian thing is sus, but at least Kim is making a positive influence on lives with her whole getting people out of jail thing. Beyoncé just preaches about how bad everyone is for not believing the same things she does
3:02 you don't know "You Don't Know My Name" by Alicia Keys?! I'd say it's easily the best I've ever heard of her and it's excellent. A Main Ingredient sample, one of my favourite Kanye beats ever and an acapella phone convo mid song that just works. Listen to it now!
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Jay-Z is a succubus. He feeds on an artist's power when they are at their highest, then crushes them and tosses them to the side. If you don't believe me, ask Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek, Freeway, Tru Life, etc. He did the same with Nas, Kanye and most recently, Jay Electronica. And of course, this cycle all started with BIG. Jay-Z has never been popular on his own. He's the Triple H of rap.
Lmao uk niggas say zed instead of zee I always use to say that's dumb because they pronounce the z as zee in words but when it's a single letter its zed, but then again they are the original language
iirc the "zee" pronunciation of z is uniquely an American thing. NOT a North American thing, just a US thing. In other words, Canadians also say "zed".
I'm Canadian and everyone I know says "Zee" not "Zed". Also he's American so it doesn't matter how people in other countries pronounce Z, his name is Jay "Zee".
exactly...Kanye is a pure artist to his soul. Yes his ego is very difficult to deal with, more of a problem for Ye than it should be for anyone else because people should stop judging and mind their own business. I only see love ckming out of Kanye, he really loves everyone but Jay....he is absokutely dead inside, cold as a corpse imo. No soul, all hate, all schemes, all emotion, all jealousy, I feel no love from Jay Z. Hope Jay finds God and leanrs to love, that is his only path back to humanity.
Pretending that he was gonna retire Pretending that he didn't retire Pretending that he didn't know what was happening on that tour bus 😂😂😂 fucking hell Ross, always got the cheekiest jabs
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Fun fact: In astrology Jay Z and Kanye West have directly opposing sun and moon signs. Kanye taught Jay Z true creativity where Jay Z taught Kanye to be a true hustler
@Tom Ross TV RAW Please tell me you’re joking right? His genius on the first four albums and even MBDTF is a bit questionable. But all Kanye was hell a better the new Kanye, to be fair the last album I heard from him was Yeezus, I did really want to hear the life of Pablo, but I could not care less about that album mostly because of him including Young Thug in that album which I don’t know I thought was disrespectful because I feel like Young Thug is like the worst rapper alive, but outside of that the last true album I heard from him was Yeezus and just from the way that he thinks, everything that happened with him in the media, everything that he said, him becoming conservative, him becoming president, all the shit that happened with him last year. Everything is just terrible and I don’t like this company at all, if somebody would’ve told me back in 2006 or 2005 that this would be the Kanye that we would eventually be getting, I would laugh in their face and tell them that they’re full of shit. I don’t like this Kanye and in my opinion he did not evolve what this girl is saying is right ever since his mother died, and I don’t know too much about this but there could be a tree to it, ever since he got with the Kardashians he has not been the same, so don’t come around here and start justifying that shit because it’s not true.
On Kanye's car crash: people felt he had cred mainly because he fell asleep after booking almost all his time working on his album. He was a hard worker and people found it endearing.
Man! I can’t believe people haven’t realized this. I remember when he had his breakdown telling people he was going through $#!% and having to remind people about the robbery. ADHD [+{
Personally being a rapper from a middle class background and having been around street dudes, I can tell you this: street dudes typically don't like or get on with rappers who aren't from the streets because they supposedly 'don't know the struggle' and they don't really know what to make of them (This was evident when they only wanted to use his beats and not give him a contract as an artist back in the day). Hov believed hip hop is 'for the streets' but that came with its own share of problems - street rappers can't take any sort of competition whatsoever. So it was already tense to begin with, and the 'big brother' relationship was clearly one-sided. So when Kanye married Kim Kardashian, that was sort of the 'final straw' as he believed she was too tacky. Lastly, Jay-Z being an icon of afro centrism and black pride, and Kanye West being a republican and endorsing Donald Trump, Hov's brand is supposed to represent equality and diversity, and considering he IS a business man, it's not a good look for him to be associated with a known Trump supporter.
Jay-Z, Kayne, Trump intersect on the individualistic representation of the self made American hustler. There is a photo of Mike Tyson posing for a photo with Trump and his father Fred Trump who like Tyson came from nothing to show the world how to achieve the American dream.
@@whitenuttergoku7310 yeah this is why there are rappers supporting Trump because he's a symbol of wealth and entrepreneurship, but due to his xenophobic and misogynisitc comments, it is very hard for a progressive rapper to associate with somebody like that.
Out of all the videos you've ever produced, by far the most offensive thing you've said is you weren't aware of Alicia Keys You Don't Know My Name lol 😂
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@@alexhoffman7460 Hey bro I don’t know if this helps but you might want to do your taxes if you even have your taxes or if you even done taxes, you can get a tax refund of over $4000. That should be enough for you to at least get some food and maybe somewhere to live for a couple of months but I don’t know I’m just trying to help you out you know hope you’re OK though…
Its funny how a dude that proudly admits he never even heard of "You Dont Know My Name" gets to speak so in depth on Hip Hop culture.... Its funny but i definitely understand whats going on here.
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts hip hop looks different depending what side of it you were on when you were introduced to it. Some people grew up IN hip hop culture, some people grew up ON hip hop culture. To my original comment: Those of us that fell in love with hip hop growing up IN the culture might have a special place in our hearts for Alicia Keys "You Dont Know My Name." It was a beautiful song and the moment we realized Alicia Keys was gonna be a star forever. AND Kanye the backpack guy did the beat??? And thats when we realized Kanye might be a star forever. Now, somebody who grew up ON hip hop culture might have missed that significant moment completely AND brag about it! Then continue to speak with a tone of authority for another 30 minutes about a topic he went out of his own way to highlight his lack of context in. Which is obviously his right to do.
shit back in 2016 i signed up to tidal just to stream the album and the tlop's listening event(and cancelled the service right after). kanye def did mad numbers for tidal.
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I got a dream, where i can buy my way to heaven- Kanye west
@@inmyownworldfr "when i woke up i spent that on a necklace" 🔥
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ross edited the watch the throne tracklist to say ''Nigels in Paris'' 😂😂😂
that's the type of continuity we deserve
😂😂
Shout out Camille for that one 💯
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂👏
Weaakk thats not the name of the song.. i want this AS IT IS not revisionist snowflake bullshit.
Considering jay z has literally shot his blood brother before when he was younger I think Being his brother is overrated
His big brother was a crack head who was stealing his drugs.
@@alexhoffman7460 have some dignity.
@@suffertheyshall have some fucking sympathy
@@suffertheyshall no heart havin ass 😂
@Tony Montana facts can't argue that.
Is there a reason we’re believing every word Jay-Z said but doubting everything Ye said?
Not a fan of either but we know Jay has a record of screwing over the ones around him, so it’s strange the video uses his words as fact.
Cause he doesn’t like Kanye
That’s true jay-z has a list of ppl who say he screwed them
yes!
I agree with you, I dont know why its taken as fact either.
Cause ye is bat shit crazy and don’t know what he saying himself lmfaoo
Kanye is a fool for looking for loyalty from the most disloyal man in the music industry
Yes , very foolish.
You’re speaking facts 😂 the guy who made the video doesn’t seem to agree though.
@pickeringsamuel why is jay z the most disloyal man in the biz?
@@nicknmm09 because he has made moves to take millions that belongs to his artists with loopholes and shit like that or at least thats what i know i am not a huge jay z fan or kanye fan i think jay z first albums was the best when he was talking about street life and not about millionaire life
@@ElMundoDeSam95 *billionaire life
it's crazy when you were listing those early ye placements cause those don't even scratch the surface of what he's done solely as a producer. fucking legend. every now and again it's a good refresher to realize.
Yeah he has had a significant impact on the course of rap music even just as a producer
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@@alexhoffman7460 sell ur phone... or use twitter. Too many trolls here, and no one can see u through the screen to help. Talk to someone in IRL. Get coupon payments or if in Europe Social Welfare. Use every option available on earth, but don't beg like this online. U a king/Queen. Ask, never beg. Wishing you the best.
@@alexhoffman7460 i'm sorry for your situation. this story, however is similar the ones i hear on the train going from nj to nyc. i hope your intentions are pure.
Yeah man the stuff he did with Common like Be is some of my favourite shit ever
Kanye is that guy you can’t show up to a party with but you love when he’s at the party
"How am I supposed to choose the Best Man, when I am the Best Man..." - Kanye West
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how can i choose the best ass when i’m the best ass
@@alexhoffman7460 hey bro you still good? I can’t help but I just wanted to check if you’re still with us. Stay strong.
@@alexhoffman7460 Ew u loser
@@sauce0rii what happened
Not really a fan of Kanye these days but I was able to attend the Watch the Throne tour twice and it was magical. It's rare that rappers give you a SHOW, they usually just walk back and forth the whole time lol but this one blew me away.
The best rappers tours are the ones that don’t go in just to sing their songs and be boring, they give you maybe a small freestyle and some nice feelings once u leave, they got u thinking “damn I wanna come back for another show.”
Blessed experience
17 times over!!!
Why do you not like Kanye now a days is it them trump hat ?
@Peter Sutcliffe lol right! I paid YOU to perform
British people struggle with pronouncing Kanye's name. They be like, "CANNNN-YAY"
Lmaoooo
🤣🤣
swear down
💀
From London and I can confirm this. Especially white people
Kanye west and Jay z the greatest love story since twilight.
Kanye and Drake is up there too
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"There's no Blueprint without Kanye, there's no Jay Z without the Blueprint, and there's no Kanye without Jay Z." Damn, Ross got a way with words fr
There is a Kanye w/o JayZ tho
This doesn’t make sense how is there no Jay Z the Blueprint, he was already big by the time he released Blueprint
There’s a Kanye without jayz, but he would have to reach popularity at a much later date. Kanye’s beats made blueprint fire, but blueprint made Kanye a known producer in the rap community. so yes, he’s right
@@australium7374 No. Jay made it big with in my lifetime Vol 2. Blueprint made people consider Jay the greatest.
@@Demsky83 I’m saying blueprint made jayz a wider figure everywhere
Kanye started a lot of shit that is normal to us today, music, fashion business
He cold man
yeah dude Kanye started music and fashion
@@valx5 😂
21 grammies.
2 billionaires of the rap game
@@rambochef5470 lmao talking about the award that means nothing now
How don’t you know “You Don’t Know My Name”?? That is possibly one of Kanye’s greatest of produced tracks bro
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Hes a culture vulture thats why
@@ye23. I can’t say all that bro 😭. This guy’s videos are actually good and well put together. We all are learning in life 🙏🏿
@@maliquelouis2027 he bothers me lol. I generally just dont like yt ppl speaking on hip hop
@@ye23. So you're racist?
Kanye being Kanye is the most ingenious pr move that could ever be done. He thrust himself into popular culture and cemented himself as one of the most polarizing, yet still iconic, artists of our time. His career would not have been the same if had he behaved otherwise.
You use the word "iconic" loosely.
@@GreenEnvy. how is kanye not iconic
@@kaan4943 The question is how is he iconic? Dude made good music for a few years, then never again. He's a moronic Trump loving buffoon. Choose your icons better kid.
@@GreenEnvy. I think it goes beyond just a few good years of music. Considering he was producing hits since the mid 1990s and eventually becoming a rapper and trailblazing the hip-pop industry from 2004 - 2012 before his decline (both mental and album sale), cultivating his own unique sound now found in so many musicians styles, I think 16 - 17 years of being in the biggest circles and even often at the top of hip-pop has got to count as iconic.
Not much of a fan of Kanye since Yeezus, but I can't deny his musical legacy, creative process that led to his plethora of hits and musical style that lead to a new gen of hip-pop. He was doing a lot of this stuff before Streaming and social media centric PR was as big as it is today so getting those numbers wasn't as easy either. Not to mention Kanye is on virtually every list of Most Iconic rappers of all time. From Rakim to Eminem to Tupac to JDilla & Nas, you'll find Kanye West on that list. Which is why even Hip-pop's greats like J Cole and Eminem at one stage at least looked up to Ye, like it or not.
@@uchihadeity1158 You left out the biggest problem in your argument. Kanye is the biggest plagiarist in all of hip hop. In comedy if you rip off a joke you're a joke thief. In rap if you rip off a song and put a drum beat over it you're "sampling." Kanye became famous off of other people's music. He constantly rapped over other people's music and added a drum beat so he could call it "sampling." This dude is a fraud. If you put in the time to see how many songs he ripped off of artists in the 70's, 80's, and 90's it's shocking. You can call him iconic, i'll call him what he really is, a fraud with a drum machine.
Short answer: because Jay z only attaches himself to beneficial situations and doesn’t truly know what real friendship is, he’s only concerned with his own success, he’s jealous kanye is richer/more powerful/more influential/more talented than him- and now he’s not only artistically more talented, but it’s translating into his art/creations being more valuable than Jay Z’a creations/art. Yes Jay opened the door and paved the way for many people like Ye, but Ye is the monster version of Dame Dash and Jay Z put together. He’ll make up with Kanye later when he wants something or it’s a good look for him. 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Facts!
@@iamcemani 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
More powerful?? naaaaaaaw
@@Jboooog18 Bro just look at the shit Ye is doing compared to Hov
@@Jboooog18 GAP’s stock rose 42% and they were worth 15 billion more just from an ANNOUNCEMENT that kanye was partnering with them for a line. Not even the line itself dropped... just the announcement. Bank of America, the top 2 most powerful bank in the WORLD, just CONFIRMED that Yeezy is worth in excess of 5 Billion dollars. His creations/shoes are being bought, sold and resold over and over again for more money. I’d say he’s more powerful than Jay Z. Have a good day.
"Two MCs can't occupy the same space at the same time
It's against the laws of physics "-L.H.
~ Lewis Hamilton
Lauryn Hill ahahahaha
@@RealShacklebolt nico and Hamilton
Correction!
@@RealShacklebolt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You don’t know my name is by far one of Kanye & Alicia Keys’ most underrated body of work. Those two truly were a GOAT’d duo
Agreed!
You don't know my name is the song Alicia Keys made where she literally takes a break from singing to do a phone call
One of the best songs she ever did
Lol phone call was kanye idea
@@XuallreadyknoX real talk I can imagine Kanye pulling her to the side going hey during the track act like you calling some guy named Michael
Literally turned this off after he said he didn’t know the song. Don’t speak on our culture if you don’t know our culture.
@@longlivelakers8778 My exact thoughts, how are you so into this music; and you don’t know that song? It was huge, and still is one her biggest songs. These type dudes always expose themselves 🤦🏽♀️
they both different but Ye is like special. Jay the vulture type, Ye the creative
How???? Jay is a trend setter..now everybody trying not to write they rhymes cuz of jay n biggie
@@beebanks6741 they do that more because of wayne now imo
@@paulmckiernan9752 and where the f*** did wayne learn it???? Again jay is a trend setter so ur comment was not needed 🤦🏿♂
@@beebanks6741 damn you're mad asf about this huh
@@paulmckiernan9752 damn right..when culture vultures don't know shit..but u can stay in ur lane n stop talking to me
"In 2020 Kanye having his mouth surgically wired shut is something we can only dream of"
You savage lol
Savage doesn't even begin to describe it.
+20 points
he's right though
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If you’re unable to help I totally understand 🙏🏻 happy holidays!
@@alexhoffman7460 are you able to get food for free or have people send you meals?
kanye has some 10/10 albums. if only he never talked.
I didn't skip the sponsor rap for once. Your bars are improving Ross.
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CAP
Trap lore records. OG
He has done much better. Which is wild lol
Ya don't know "You Don't Know My Name"? Petition for an R&B Ross sister channel
Thought the same but it's a different genre so i can understand y
youalready doesn’t matter that shit was all over the radio at one point
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If you’re unable to help I totally understand 🙏🏻 happy holidays!
yh lore, that hurt!! xD
Because Jay is a strategist and opportunist. Simple.
Kanye always sticker his neck for Jay Z, unfortunately Jay Z does not stick up for Kanye. 🤔
I know unpopular opinion. Truth is Bey and JZ don't want to associate themselves with Kim. But poor Kanye.
Facts
Facts
I've been binging your channel over the last few days, you make top-tier content and I'm very appreciative of the info you give and the way you deliver it!
Short answer: Because he’s Kanye.
Is also sorta deep jay Z became corrupt
@@staticunion4448 not sorta lol
@@staticunion4448 be jealous of kayne success even tho Jay is bigger rapper. People never wore a dots but yeezys Yezzy jumped over jump man.
Hes simply built different
Never enjoyed a full Jay Z project
One is a creative genius, one is a legendary businessman. One is willing to think freely, one does whatever Hollywood and the white man tells him to do. Stop hating Kanye. He’s an individual
whatever they tell him. So tired 9f hearing that narrative repeated overx3
Jay made so many moves himself. Created lanes. So sick if y'all bullshit. Not even truthfully speaking when y'all sat how he follows hollywood. No reality shows. Owns his own companies and doesn't wear a fucking MAGA hat. Kayne listening to a white man!!!- right??
One dumb enough to marry a kardashian. Other has an actual decent loyal wife
@@mentlinc yeah the kardashian thing is sus, but at least Kim is making a positive influence on lives with her whole getting people out of jail thing. Beyoncé just preaches about how bad everyone is for not believing the same things she does
@@jaredfuqua2503 “slavery was a choice” but jay z tells the white man what they want to hear
Damn Trap Lore Ross, You Don't Know My Name is a classic. Def should check it out.
3:02 you don't know "You Don't Know My Name" by Alicia Keys?! I'd say it's easily the best I've ever heard of her and it's excellent. A Main Ingredient sample, one of my favourite Kanye beats ever and an acapella phone convo mid song that just works. Listen to it now!
Kanye "The protagonist" West
More of an antihero imo
That’s a cool goddamn nickname
You spelled 'antagonist' wrong
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@@diederik1191 how is he an antagonist
...the stage was a reference to the b.e.t. awards where jay z and kanye were scheduled to perform but jay didn't show up.
It could be both.
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If you’re unable to help I totally understand 🙏🏻 happy holidays!
Jay-Z is a succubus. He feeds on an artist's power when they are at their highest, then crushes them and tosses them to the side. If you don't believe me, ask Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek, Freeway, Tru Life, etc. He did the same with Nas, Kanye and most recently, Jay Electronica. And of course, this cycle all started with BIG. Jay-Z has never been popular on his own. He's the Triple H of rap.
Lmao facts
Fictional account. Ask those people the truth smh. I can name 14 songs that are fire without a feature. Jerk
Mic drop! 🎤
Anyone else notice how he keeps switching the way he says Kanye? Also, “Jay Zed” 😭
In the uk we don’t say ‘zee’ we say zed
Hov may be a 'zee', but most other English speaking countries pronounce it 'zed'.
Lmao uk niggas say zed instead of zee I always use to say that's dumb because they pronounce the z as zee in words but when it's a single letter its zed, but then again they are the original language
iirc the "zee" pronunciation of z is uniquely an American thing. NOT a North American thing, just a US thing. In other words, Canadians also say "zed".
I'm Canadian and everyone I know says "Zee" not "Zed".
Also he's American so it doesn't matter how people in other countries pronounce Z, his name is Jay "Zee".
I hate that he dont knows Alicia Keys - You dont know my Name🤦🏻♂️its a Classic
Im impressed with how informative your clips are.Seriously your journalistic skills kick ass.. keep up the good work mate
Because Jay didn't need him anymore. He's a snake just like Diddy. Use artist up until you don't need them anymore. Smh
Jay z a snake like Puff daddy
exactly...Kanye is a pure artist to his soul. Yes his ego is very difficult to deal with, more of a problem for Ye than it should be for anyone else because people should stop judging and mind their own business. I only see love ckming out of Kanye, he really loves everyone but Jay....he is absokutely dead inside, cold as a corpse imo. No soul, all hate, all schemes, all emotion, all jealousy, I feel no love from Jay Z. Hope Jay finds God and leanrs to love, that is his only path back to humanity.
@@sooperd00p crazy kanye
huh
@@djwalkerfemaledj Totally agree with you. Cheers.
Pretending that he was gonna retire
Pretending that he didn't retire
Pretending that he didn't know what was happening on that tour bus 😂😂😂 fucking hell Ross, always got the cheekiest jabs
Jay Z getting his karma back for what he did to dame
what did he do to Dame ???
@@nunocruz2360 Ross go tell you it’s on there
@@nunocruz2360 He dashed him.
How so? Did a scandal break out?
Through the wire will always hit different , it was everywhere
Ross, we need this on Spotify so I can listen while I game and on the bus and generally as much of life as possible.
I love that undercover brother reference, I love that movie
Yea
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If you’re unable to help I totally understand 🙏🏻 happy holidays!
General's Fried Chicken, show nuff. It's butt kickin'.
Fun fact: In astrology Jay Z and Kanye West have directly opposing sun and moon signs. Kanye taught Jay Z true creativity where Jay Z taught Kanye to be a true hustler
I just hope kanye finds peace WITHOUT a Kardashian. They tend to ruin lives around them.
Facts
@@hedislimanesintern2382 no he wouldnt LMAO reachin
Eyo
Facts
'This can't be life', is a TIMELESS track, and maybe my FAVORITE KANYE BEAT.
I really miss back in the day kanye. Once Donda died + them Kardashians got their claws on him, he’ll never be the same again.
@Tom Ross TV RAW Please tell me you’re joking right? His genius on the first four albums and even MBDTF is a bit questionable. But all Kanye was hell a better the new Kanye, to be fair the last album I heard from him was Yeezus, I did really want to hear the life of Pablo, but I could not care less about that album mostly because of him including Young Thug in that album which I don’t know I thought was disrespectful because I feel like Young Thug is like the worst rapper alive, but outside of that the last true album I heard from him was Yeezus and just from the way that he thinks, everything that happened with him in the media, everything that he said, him becoming conservative, him becoming president, all the shit that happened with him last year. Everything is just terrible and I don’t like this company at all, if somebody would’ve told me back in 2006 or 2005 that this would be the Kanye that we would eventually be getting, I would laugh in their face and tell them that they’re full of shit. I don’t like this Kanye and in my opinion he did not evolve what this girl is saying is right ever since his mother died, and I don’t know too much about this but there could be a tree to it, ever since he got with the Kardashians he has not been the same, so don’t come around here and start justifying that shit because it’s not true.
Don’t listen to him or you’re right, you be speaking facts no cap
On Kanye's car crash: people felt he had cred mainly because he fell asleep after booking almost all his time working on his album. He was a hard worker and people found it endearing.
“Pop smoke treatment”...poor choice of words
Damn that makes so much sense that kanye had that breakdown after the kim robbery. Ross stay with the knowledge
Man! I can’t believe people haven’t realized this. I remember when he had his breakdown telling people he was going through $#!% and having to remind people about the robbery. ADHD [+{
Boo hoo, people get robbed all the fucking time. Kayne wants the world to stop spinning so he can grief kmt
@@dxshawn532 bruh his wife and kids were in danger and he wasn’t there to do anything about it. stop being a dick and have humility for people.
Your favorite artist delayed his album because he thinks he plays for the nba fuck outta here💀💀
Someone else gets robbed st gunpoint and he's making it about him. Yet he's the one needing public sympathy and support, go figure.
Still love Kanye though, and it’s not even about the music, I just think he’s a boss.
Man runs his own show, can’t diss that for a second... major inspo
yo mama head game is boss
This man said pretending he didn't know what was going on on that tour bus... lmao
Congratulations on 500K subscribers, fully deserved 👏🏾
Ross these new scenes and visuals are 🔥
0:50 You keep rapping like this TLR and we'll be talking about Growing Up Hiphop: Bognar Regis
You should really listen to You Don’t Know My Name!! It’s one of the best songs of that year
I really got this video on my recommendation after the DONDA livestream 💀
Same bruh lmao
I had this video at watch later for months and now I had time to watch it. Ross you did a great job again! Congrats and keep going!
Pretending he didn't know whats going on the tour buss . Took me the hell out🤣
I lost my mom 4 years ago and listening to Oloff's 'Doing It Stealthy' really helped me process my emotions
"You Don't Know My Name" is the one with Mos Def in the video. Great tune. Check it out (very Neo-Soul)
Yoooo 😂😂😂 that We tv rap promo in the beginning was hard af, you ripped that shit 💪🏾🏅
Personally being a rapper from a middle class background and having been around street dudes, I can tell you this: street dudes typically don't like or get on with rappers who aren't from the streets because they supposedly 'don't know the struggle' and they don't really know what to make of them (This was evident when they only wanted to use his beats and not give him a contract as an artist back in the day). Hov believed hip hop is 'for the streets' but that came with its own share of problems - street rappers can't take any sort of competition whatsoever. So it was already tense to begin with, and the 'big brother' relationship was clearly one-sided. So when Kanye married Kim Kardashian, that was sort of the 'final straw' as he believed she was too tacky. Lastly, Jay-Z being an icon of afro centrism and black pride, and Kanye West being a republican and endorsing Donald Trump, Hov's brand is supposed to represent equality and diversity, and considering he IS a business man, it's not a good look for him to be associated with a known Trump supporter.
Best comment. Enough respect 🤜🏿🤛🏿
Jay-Z, Kayne, Trump intersect on the individualistic representation of the self made American hustler. There is a photo of Mike Tyson posing for a photo with Trump and his father Fred Trump who like Tyson came from nothing to show the world how to achieve the American dream.
@@whitenuttergoku7310 yeah this is why there are rappers supporting Trump because he's a symbol of wealth and entrepreneurship, but due to his xenophobic and misogynisitc comments, it is very hard for a progressive rapper to associate with somebody like that.
"As sour as Kim K's box" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 👃 📦💀💀💀
yo he changed the track list of watch the throne to say “Nigels in Paris” I’m dead 😂
Almost unsubscribed when he said he Never heard you don’t know my name
Fr
TLR: *disses You Don’t Know My Name
Me to TLR: “Yes, I’d like to speak to your manager please” 🧑
Maybe you should, y'all emotional as fuck. Christ.
@@dxshawn532 it’s just jokes bro...
Facts
yooo that freestyle in the beginning is underrated 🔥🔥🔥
The throne is back
Y'know what? I watched a while, seen a lot of videos. Today I dinged the bell.
Bro you should do a Lil Wayne and the hot boys video. Like why they broke up how they started ect. Not much of that on TH-cam at all.
Out of all the videos you've ever produced, by far the most offensive thing you've said is you weren't aware of Alicia Keys You Don't Know My Name lol 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 You are the BEST commentator i have heard this year... gonna have to replay...
I feel like Ye tried to get that Memphis Bleek type relationship especially based off the Saint Pablo versus
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Right...I agree!!
@@alexhoffman7460 Hey bro I don’t know if this helps but you might want to do your taxes if you even have your taxes or if you even done taxes, you can get a tax refund of over $4000. That should be enough for you to at least get some food and maybe somewhere to live for a couple of months but I don’t know I’m just trying to help you out you know hope you’re OK though…
great video on Canye and Jayzed!!
Funny legit was listening to Watch The Throne when I got the notification for this video
Another banger from trap lore boss!love this channel!
“They’re gonna have a new Yeezy attached to them” 😂😂😂 I lost it here
Please do a video on Shether
You’re kinda fine
I don’t like your pop smoke joke, all of your jokes honestly are cringy.
Out of pocket
Not all of them, some and his puns are fine but some too far
And the higher standards than kanye about the French robbers not raping kim insinuating kanye would was just completely out of pocket
He’s a vulture; glad y’all waking up to this guy
Anyone else feel weird about him not knowing Alicia Keys' "You Don't Know My Name"?
Yessss. I came to the comments to see if anyone else felt this way!!! It’s a travesty.
He’s uncultured
Reason why it’s always kinda disheartening that the biggest voices in hip hop media are whites
@@ctrlaltcreate3827 Ross is a big voice in hip hop? When since? Who the fuck listening to Alicia keys.
@@dxshawn532 I think I found trap lore ross's burner account.
Its funny how a dude that proudly admits he never even heard of "You Dont Know My Name" gets to speak so in depth on Hip Hop culture....
Its funny but i definitely understand whats going on here.
My exact thoughts
Can you explain?
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts sure. Which part?
@@ShroomGodBreadzilla pretty much your entire comment but especially the last part
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts hip hop looks different depending what side of it you were on when you were introduced to it.
Some people grew up IN hip hop culture, some people grew up ON hip hop culture.
To my original comment: Those of us that fell in love with hip hop growing up IN the culture might have a special place in our hearts for Alicia Keys "You Dont Know My Name." It was a beautiful song and the moment we realized Alicia Keys was gonna be a star forever. AND Kanye the backpack guy did the beat??? And thats when we realized Kanye might be a star forever.
Now, somebody who grew up ON hip hop culture might have missed that significant moment completely AND brag about it! Then continue to speak with a tone of authority for another 30 minutes about a topic he went out of his own way to highlight his lack of context in. Which is obviously his right to do.
Thanks….I loved this video…Laughed so hard!
Wish you all the success TLR! Keep making these dope videos!
Your contents are great. The humour works perfectly.
If you love that hip-hop banter, youll love growing up Hip Hop Atlanta 🔥🔥
This is my favorite video I've watched by you so far, 20-30 vids in.
Aye Trap Lore Ross went off in the intro!!
Bro your rapping delivery is improving so much 👏🏾
“More Plaque since Kodak Black’s grillz since he’s been in jail” BRUHHHHHH 🤣🤣🤣 this is why I love TLR
This is the exact moment I became a fan😂😂
Speechless..love these videos...💯🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
I was so interested to watch this whole video...but had to leave once he said he doesn’t know *Alicia Keys - You Don’t Know My Name* I’m sorry ...smh
And the joke are bad
@@alterego3387 the joke was terrible indeed lol
The "Robbery" was a pub stunt...
Cmon now ROSS!
“The pop smoke treatment” 😬 not cool bro
And said they didn’t rape her and apparently had higher standards than kanye?? Wtf ??
Great video as usual!
ross not knowing "you dont know my name" excludes him from being allowed to talk about black music/culture.
That was good flow on that promo✅🔥
Came back here after the throne returned
The graduation is Kanye best album in my opinion. I can let the whole album play without skipping songs.
Graduation will always be the album that stopped the 50 cent steamroller ( Curtis) 😂😂. 50 was never the same since.
I’ve been waiting for this one 😂
shit back in 2016 i signed up to tidal just to stream the album and the tlop's listening event(and cancelled the service right after). kanye def did mad numbers for tidal.