A Guide to Micro Independent Watch Brands: A Collector Conversation with Geoff, C'Q, and Jon
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- When it comes to micro independent watch brands, there are few other collectors out there that know more than Geoff.
Geoff has unmatched knowledge on various micro independent watch makers which has helped him curate a jaw dropping collection. In this video, Geoff sits with C'Quon Gottlieb and Jon Callahan to talk in depth about his unique collection and to break down the origin of his passion for independent watchmakers. In his collection we see Glashütte Original, Kari Voutilainen, Grönefeld, H.Moser & Cie, A. Lange & Söhne, F. P. Journe, Greubel Forsey, Laurent Ferrier, and more. Watch full video to see these rare timepieces!
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He's probably the most well informed hobbyist I've ever heard talk of their collection. Another thing, he has impeccable taste. My heaven's, what a collection! Stunning!
All of the above, and he keeps saying Vooltain for Voutilainen, or did I hear him wrong? In any case, I would much rather be able to own all those stunners and get one of their names wrong, like him, than be able to get one name right and not be able to afford ANY watch, like me! 😅
All of the above, and he keeps saying Vooltain for Voutilainen... or did I hear him wrong? That being said, however, I'd much rather be able to buy all those stunners he has and get one name wrong, like him, than be able to say it right and be unable to afford even one watch, like me! 😅
So refreshing to see a collection not mainly comprised of Rolex and Patek. Thanks for sharing your collection, Geoff. Excellent video guys!
This might be the best 38 minutes of TH-cam watch content I’ve ever seen
I think it a flaw in this otherwise interesting video that so much "screen time" was given to the "talking heads", and comparatively little to the extraordinary watches, themselves.
Haha yeah I can’t believe these two clowns who can’t even speak English.. instead of letting the guy talk only they were just disturbing
You are not worthy to see his pieces, only to view them from angles. Sorry, but this collector is just in another league.
I saw your comment after I left my own basically saying the same thing. There’s a lot of these conversation videos where they do the same stuff I get really frustrated.
That last Voutilainen 👌
Easily the best WatchBox video ever. From a collector standpoint. Absolute beauty and a whole new world. Writing this as I watch for the 10th time lol.
Amazing collection. Independents have so much more to offer than the big 3.
I agree
One of the best collections this segment has produced. Geoff’s knowledge is incredible and the consideration that went into selecting each piece is exceptional.
WOW, those last two have such BEAUTIFUL dials, that's amazing
That window on the Lange that extends or retracts in sync with the minute hand is remarkable. Fusee and chain too, whew.... Great video.
Geoff is an excellent guest and has a remarkable collection. I respect his knowledge and history for the independents. One of your most intriguing guests to date. Thanx for the experienced crew. Thanx for producing a segment that walks away from the usual house names. 👍
We need some b-roll of each watch close up.
Jon Callahan is a good guy...talked to him a couple of times. He gave me some advice on dealing with my local boutique and I tried to sell a Patek to WatchBox with him but in the end I held on to thew watch...he was professional the whole way through.
What an amazing collection of haute horologie! Truly unique collection from a well-spoken and passionate gentleman that is an embodiment of what a collector should be! I cannot be the only one that was keeping a running total of how much this collection cost but gave up after it reached well into the 6 figure range! Impressive and hats off to you sir!
The Gronfeld 1941 Remotoire is my favorite The absolute best collection yet. Love the Indy watchmaker
Great episode. Glad to see this series turning out to be more educational and inspiring. No more that "bought 2018 Rolex catalog guy" pls.
Greatly curated collection . This guy knows his stuff. Kuddos.
WOW..... Amazing collection on one table. This is THE BEST independent brand collection I have ever seen, as well as the best TH-cam video on independent watchmaker brands. I couldn't stop smiling myself. Thank you C'Q, & Jon for putting this presentation together. Thank you Geoff for sharing your collection with us. Bravo gentlemen Bravo
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I’m a year late to this party... but OH MY WORD!!! Geoff’s collection is absolutely awe inspiring. His knowledge is incredible as well, but a truly enviable collection of watches here.
Show us more close-ups of the movements!!!
This is one of the most awesome pieces of content the Watchbox has ever produced. You have to do this again!
Just needs a Dufour and the collection is complete (unless I missed it!) What a fantastic collection.
I also love Volutenin watches. They are Nukelar. The bearded guy is saying so much. I can listen to his insightful commentary throughout every second of the day.
This is a great and informative video. One thing that frustrates me as a viewer is that I want to see the watches more !! Sometimes they are eonly shown from far away
Fascinating, would love to own one of these amazing and unique pieces. Lovely that not only were the participants knowledgeable, they also knew how to balance a conversation... (see too many guests/hosts interrupting each other on other otherwise good videos!)
Who the heck is Kari Volitainen?
Love the conversation! That LF is off the chart very subtle and classy. All awesome watches. Geoff is a true collector with a deep understanding. LF is definitely my grail watch more so than FPJ. Will definitely buy one thru Jon. An honest dealer.
Great video!! Need more exposure on these more independent watch companies!! Personally Kari is my favourite out of these, such a inspiration to people like myself wishing to join the ranks of these legends.
Love the passion these guys bring to us! Really nice collection and commentary.
Very interesting collection. Emphasis on the movements and unique executions that matter! I really appreciate what he’s done as a collector.
Thanks for allowing me to see such an amazing collection. I’ve seen some of these watches in stores. They look better in fact to the naked eye. Another level.
One of the most exciting collector interviews.
Anyone else get slightly annoyed at how he was saying Voutilainen?
The preview image for this video aged SOOOO WELL. It's 4 years later and Voutilainen is easily the top guilloche man in the world. Journe is basically a household name amongst every grade of enthusiast. And Lange is often spoken of as direct competition to the holy trinity and in particular Patek.
Magnificent watches! He keeps butchering Kari Voutilainen’s name though. Calling him Kerry Voutainen lol
This guy is winning at life. I am not. Also this video needs someone on a second camera doing closeups.
Very interesting show and some wonderful watches. Thanks guys, this one goes into the "Save" file. 👍
Thank you for sharing. This was informative, interesting. It makes me want to explore the history and technology of timepieces more… regardless of whether I buy another watch or not.
So good to watch videos without the bigger brands being mentioned
Didn't talk about the Patek 5140 the collector was wearing... is also an interesting piece...
VOU-TI-LAI-NEN. I understand foreign names are hard to pronounce but sound of "Vouti-" is miles from "Voula-".
A1 collection though. But I'd take time out of my day to learn to pronounce the names of the masters who made me the watches if I were him.
Damn the Voutilainens are beautiful 😍
So which one is the volateinen?? hahaha
It´s not "Voulitainen" as your pronouncing . It´s "Voutilainen".
Amazing collection. This is art
what a collection!!! great one!
fantastic collection.....
How does the black guy read Grönefeld as “chronofa” ?
Beautiful collection
Does Geoff have Instagram? Great guest!
Great episode!
Holy smokes!! Great watches!
Hi, I am an independent watch maker based in Silicon Valley. I am coming to Basel the week of March 1, 2022 to meet people in the maker world. Are there gatherings of independent watch makers going on that week? -Frank
What a collection...
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Geoff is a rockstar
This was refreshing..... thanks
Great collection !
Very interesting but it is a pity that there are no links or a list of the reviewed watches (brand and model)...
Thats the table i love to see i mean this are all mechanical marvels , no hype bragging thing just pure horology
and that 217qrs is a genius watchmaking
This is a hell of a collection... I would risk prison to rob this guys house!
the cost of any single one of these watches is aprox triple the cost of my entire collection of 4 watches. and i thought i was doing ok...., back to the drawing board.
Nice collection nice guy :)
fantastic! thank you for this!
Love these videos
Fascinating! Excelsior!
what kind of precision does a Lange or H.moser have?
Every time I watch one of these I get very frustrated because either you never see the watch as well or they hold them up for about 20 seconds and you’re lucky if you’re gonna actually see the dial and or the movement. What I can’t figure out is why, you don’t take images film images of the Watches front and back either before or after the conversation and then edit them in so that they’re a quarter of the screen or something like that while they’re talking about each watch come on guys get it together
class and taste.
This guy is my taste with 1000x more money
I need my watches looked at, 25 straight years of limited-time editions 1of500- 1-3500 , every year for 24 years since Augusta started, offering at the tournament, ive gotten 24/25 years, being this year, will make my goal, when i set out on this crazy idea, to get the watch every year, just gettin into ANGC was difficult in its self, and alot of monies, can i get my monies back and more
Volitainen....
Of these watches, the F.P. Journe T30 is my favorite. Among the many qualities these horological masterpieces share, one of these qualities is, "abundance," Whether it be an abundant amount of complications or details, every watch here is a world infinite wonder. What none of these watches express, however, is "emptiness."
Art history is full of paintings with abundance, be it Hieronymus Bosch's, The Garden of Earthly Delights, Michelangelo's, Sistine Chapel, or Peter Paul Reubens', The Decent from the Cross. In art history, paintings that express emptiness are relegated to second fiddle. Take, for example, Chardin's, Basket of Plums or Juan Sanchez Cotan's, Still Life with Quince, Cabbage, Melon, and Cucumber.
It wasn't until the 20th century that emptiness became a force to be reckoned with. Take, for example, Mark Rothko's, Black on Dark Sienna on Purple. Emptiness as a black hole, where no light can escape. Abundance in art will always take center stage but thanks to Rothko's forbearers the art world is full of emptiness.
This brings me back to watches. Most every masterpiece of horology is a Hieronymous Bosch. There are few watches that are inspired by the likes of Chardin or Rothko, but they exist. Of course, we have to go to Japan to find them.
First, there is the Credor Eichi II, with its dial entirely painted in enamel. It's a breath of God as quiet as a whisper. Then there's Kikuchi Nakagawa's, Murakumo watch. Inspired by Patek Philippe's 1941 black dial Reference No.1503, Nakagawa refines the Murakumo into a kind of purity so severe that even the black polished caseback makes seasoned watch collectors twitch with nervous anxiety. No wonder. Like staring into a black hole, there's nothing there.
"Vulitainen"...are you kidding me? You text with this guy and you own his pieces with his name on them and you don't know his last name? That's embarrassing.
Better to own the watch and mispronounce the name than being able to pronounce the name but not afford the watch I guess
@@bc8814 agree to disagree
Many Americans, even very well-educated ones, have difficulty pronouncing "foreign sounding" words/ names ( i.e. not usually encountered in English-speaking countries). But yes, I agree, if only as a matter of common courtesy. If they've built up a genuine client/ creator relationship based on mutual respect, appreciation and shared passion for the art of watchmaking, you'd think he'd have learned to pronounce the watchmaker's name correctly.
Wow...
These are beautiful, but using Microbrand on the title is misleading. These are not Microbrands.
Your absolutely right, but the use of the word Micro these days pertain to a different type of consumer . Definitely not the type of consumer that will buy those types of brands.
These things would be much more helpful if you took pictures of all the watches and flash them on the screen as the person is discussing them, you know down in the corner on one side, etc. etc. it’s frustrating to me because I’m trying to learn more about WATCHES as much as I can actually and they’re sitting here talking about something we can’t even see it. Come on WatchBox I know you can do better!
Horrible job of holding the watches for audience
2:08 His 👂 are like that of ELVES.
eht duh end of the day ahb eeh lahk sho yaw ynahymsiayn shee mahfuhg hu?
While the video is informative - but it’s so informative that it becomes boring after point - also the video takes very poor shots of the watch.
watchbox - redo heading repalce microbrand with artisans or independents.
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Moser's date window is goddam hideous.
This would have been a brilliant video -- but we all want to see the watches and couldn't. In the end I gave up watching. Think about it guys. This is a watch channel.
Ball dropped guys, more watch less face.
Please fix these videos. Too many faces, ok I want to see their faces some times when they are speaking but most of the times show macros of the watches or the watches from a close distance....🤬
I came for the opulence of watch porn and left with vasocongestion.
ummmm, thank you? 😉