The origin of human civilization | Graham Hancock and Lex Fridman
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Graham Hancock a journalist and author who for over 30 years has explored the controversial possibility that there existed a lost civilization during the last Ice Age, and that it was destroyed in a global cataclysm some 12,000 years ago. He is the presenter of the Netflix documentary series "Ancient Apocalypse", the 2nd season of which has just been released.
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Graham Hancock a journalist and author who for over 30 years has explored the controversial possibility that there existed a lost civilization during the last Ice Age, and that it was destroyed in a global cataclysm some 12,000 years ago. He is the presenter of the Netflix documentary series "Ancient Apocalypse", the 2nd season of which has just been released.
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So many experts and intellectuals in the comments. I didn’t realize everyone on the internet is a professional scholar.
When it comes to drugs - you WILL find a plethora of actual experts!
Whether he is correct or delusional, i think it’s important to consider all options succinctly until we have proven facts. Can’t get there until we explore.
That's the thing. People have.
The problem is you can't have proven facts when the other side says "you're wrong, I can't provide scientific evidence, I'm just a journalist"
Most humans faced with a question seek only to find an acceptable resolution in their mind. A belief that satisfies the hunger for understanding. Which is confused with a hunger for truth. It doesn't take much to satisfy that urge. So belief will be reached far short of the vast truth of any particular thing. Then the urge goes away, perfectly content to leave it at the understanding they've attained. Oblivious to the fact that there is always more to see. This is true up and down the scale of awareness. We assume we see enough to determine there's nothing more to see. But we are wrong, history has shown it, it's not until we stumble on to something or expand in other ways that we're able to see a bit more of that truth. About things we previously believed to be solved. This is the process of life, to steadily refine our ability to see something/everything for what it truly is. Yet we prevent and llimit ourselves from doing it by assuming our current belief is whole and final.
@@Frostypacha there is no evidence for his conclusions. None. Only storytelling based on ruins and myths, which makes it fictional. Why should we consider that as an option to the careful study of archaeological findings?
Love how Graham finds funky ways to pronounce words SHARMAAAN
The English language always sounds funky to non-English speakers when pronounced properly🙂
@@xman933if you think the British have any inherent authority regarding the pronunciation of a Siberian word brought into Russian and then German in the early 18th century, you're not nearly as clever as your use of emoji-as-punctuation would imply
@@archmage_of_the_aetherwell I mean you didn’t even use punctuation 😂
@@maisonmorgan3695 you have the wit of an arbitrary eggplant emoji, sir
@@archmage_of_the_aether there you go not using punctuation again lmao
Also, the English would have the “inherent authority” on how ti pronounce a word in English, if everyone pronounced words the same at they were originally said, there wouldn’t be more than one language
A friend of mine told me a few years ago he was going on a retreat in South America. He took something there, but it was not a positive outcome as Graham talks about here. Whatever he took it changed him for the worse. He came back a very judgmental person, and profoundly narcissistic with no fliter anymore. He said he was enlightened now, and would go back to do more of it every summer. It cost him his friends and his job, but I guess he found something else. It reminded me of what a prof told me years ago about being a user, that it reveals bare a lot of what people are under the surface, and the hard truth is most people from day to day barely keep that darkness in check. Enlightenment my ass.
Can’t hate untill you’ve tried it 🤷♂️ for some people, like nobel prize winner francis crick, it helped them solve the structure of DNA or the mechanism of PCR. Besides, how can there even be an argument when we’re not even on the page about the type of drug your friend took. They more likely gave him heroin or fentanyl 😂
I know someone who life was saved by it as well, everything isn't for everybody.
Whichever ego re-emerges following ego death by the psychedelic depends on the substrate of the subconscious. (Ie the tendencies you are referring too)
@@Marko-xc4vn If it was purely for recreation I think you can make that argument. But if it is a roll of the dice whether you get positive or negative outcomes [that are life changing] I don't see the point. The last few generations we have been taught that simply taking this or that opens the mind or will fix our problems, it seems far healthier to assume that is just another short cut someone found and there are other ways, like meditation, etc.
I can understand how this could happen. I think there’s an important distinction between a change in state and a change in stage. Psychedelics can offer a temporary change in state, revealing new concepts and knowledge. But it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve had personal growth which takes quite a bit of time and effort. Without the personal growth the ego can run amok with these new insights. It takes more than just drugs to grow and evolve as a person.
Graham is a very open and friendly person, as is lex.
People spouting bs... Go do some field research on the subject.
Peace
Graham should do the same, but actually going out there without him bringing along his own preexisting biases towards his own “theories” he has made. Actually going out and actually being willing and able to entertain the (strong) possibility that he is wrong, and being able to accept that.
*In relation to his archaeological work and ideas, especially very very ancient civilizations. His ideas expressed in this particular video not what I’m referring to*
@9:00 75-80 journeys?! Grandpa Graham is cooked
Im so happy he praise Terence Mckenna, he was a true spiritual guide. If only people understand where some of our traditions came from. For example Christmas, decorative mushrooms in the Christmas tree and the presents. This is directly coming from shamans that dry there mushrooms in pinetrees to receive (not a phyical) but spiritual present when undergoing a journey.
Also in my experience a journey is not another realm, but the same reality. However, your ego is completly stripped during a journey, so you expiernce reality without any (ego) filter.
I like my DMT straight up, un-diluted and intense. I did the shaman thing and it’s mushrooms without the fun🙄
If I want to trip I take an eighth of golden teachers.
If I want to talk to the other side I take three strong hits of DMT.
And you do this the glory of whom?
Civilization and culture are different things.
Yes, but you can't have one without the other...
@@maximusmorphine2418 not true
You can't have a civilization without a culture, but you don't need to have a civilization to have a culture.
@@mikitz maybe. But a culture is not mere society, not mere system and structure. It involves history, belief, unspoken connection.
Theess we study the past, more we distract ourselves with the present, the less culture we have to pass on.
Herman Hess. Not sure if the spelling of name,is a kindred spirit of Graham. Carlos Castenada is another friend of yours.
How did they figure out these plant combos? Crazy and awesome
Get into yoga. Become adept at deep meditation. Meet entites on the astral. Who tell you things. Like how to make stuff.
Lex, please get Bernardo Kastrup on your show! As I'm sure you know, he has many relevant things to say on all this.
Drip 💧 DMT yes please.
I never get DMs 😢...
It's agriculture that led to cities and civilization
Graham Hancock for president
So is this legal in san Diego can we do this in San Diego?
Sounds similar to near death experience. A part of the brain kicks in to compensate for and placate pain or fear, coma hallucinations included. ?!
When a man gets rich before he gets high
Shamans, witchdoctors and Priests, oh my!
Graham, come up to Vancouver, BC where drugs have been legalized for recreational use and you will understand why they are illegal for recreational use. I once believed in legalization but my eyes are now wide open since this once beautiful city is now riddled with addiction, social disorder, and crime, hence why we and Portland, which also took that leap are now reversing course. I believe in medicinal uses of these drugs but recreational use, especially when it triggers underlying mental illness in many (especially with teens), is a dangerous and socially destabilizing proposition.
My psilocybin trips, which are increasingly rare, now involve me getting shown the errors of my ways for hours. It's a lot to deal with, but it's for the best. I also see The Woman, and an entity I call The Darkside. Until I integrate I'm not to go back, and there's a lot to work on. It's been over a year since the last, and the previous was two years before that.
Maybe you want to read Jung, maybe some Tibetan Book of the Dead
Interesting. Be sure to steady yourself with nature and God
be careful dude
Love you, sir. Respect & love to papa terrence!!❤❤❤
It sounds like something that breaks through cognitive dissidence. Would love to try it.
Everyone would be better if they experienced plant medicines.
Free the plants
Drinking alcohol drug affects consciousness. So, yeah. Nice one ❤
I totally agree 💯
Nice theories, but just theories. What is a fact is that earlier civilisations had great medical plant expertise.
You like your own comments… lol how embarrasing
Your comment is another theorie?
My Amazon Alexa has Consciousness bc when I say “Thankyou” she says “you’re welcome” . Can you be polite without having consciousness, i dont think so🤔
Whoever created Amazon has the conscience
She has personality but no consciousness
TLDR: it's drugs again
Can't sit through a pod, can't write in actual sentences... probably riddled with angst, future generations are effed loll
Can you provide some context
@@kappashotcigsmoke2107drugs make ya question things and if ya ask the right questions you might get somewhere
Eat a magic mushroom
It's THE drug!
I want to believe. But I can't
Believe anyhow. You got one life to live. Live FREE. Believe it all.
maybe it was the bullies who run out of people to destroy
So sad to hear Graham discuss AI or computers becoming conscious.....really misguided. HAVE BERNARDO KASTRUP ON!
sounds a bit overly cereble to me.
Someone was starving in the woods and ate a plate that made him or her see god lol 😂
Misleading title
Local customs
The origin is
YO MAMA
isn’t far off in the sense that early humans likely needed to reproduce frequently just to offset the high mortality rates and maintain population levels. Lots of mamas.
@@MauricioGonzalezFilms correct. Well said
You don't need drugs. Just do deep meditation. Stop being ignorant.
Human ethics come from drugs?
So the extremely costly unused capacity of the human brain (especially indirectly applied abstract thought) was just waiting for us to discover psychedelic drugs?
I tuned in and am now dropping out.
Yea, it is bs. If someone needs drugs to find that, yikes, we are in trouble...
Yeah, well, that's like, your opinion, man.... And dude below - being "open" and "friendly" are of no consequence as to how correct one actually is about one's "theories". Yeah - he has a point with some of the ancient sites he has visited, might be onto something and, at any rate, it is certainly improbable that before ~12000 years ago we were doing sweet FA in terms of civilization-like activities.
But... anyone who keeps harping on about how *"mainstream [anything] is trying to [make me fail somehow] cuz they don't want you to know, bruh!"* is almost always just wrong. Most scientists (even those whose current & accepted theories would be invalidated) would be THRILLED if we'd find evidence of super-ancient civilizations.
I feel like no thought was put into that comment🤔
Don't worry I screenshot your comment before you deleted the bottom half.
What do you know about whats right and wrong? Ur closed minded liberal demonic mindset is keeping you from truth. But yeah, i dont wanna argue. Just let people live in their own Lies, that way the world is more peacefull.
@@Irresistance yeah braindead liberal. Typical closed minded and wants a narrow vision of the world because the truth would be too much for these people
I don't think there is a "consequence" to the correctness of a theory, as a theory by its very nature is something that has not been validated yet, and therefore cannot be considered "correct."
Graham's theories are not the problem. The problem is those people who take them to be more - and that includes both the people that support him AND his detractors.
@@MH3GLmost people, like this op, don't know any different. It's not their fault, you can't teach intelligence!
go to a rainbow gathering to see the past ... hierchy starts at the kitchens water and firewood runs .. security and a level of respect or no one gets fed
So, according to Hancock’s definition, every cook who uses a bit of this, a bit of that, to improve flavour is a scientist. Yep, that’s exactly the scientific method. You nailed it, Graham.
Yes, it's called food science
@@nicholassmith7048 and women are fashion scientists because they experiment with cloth, accessories and makeup to make themselves look the best? Why don’t we just call everyone a scientist and be done with it?
@@nicholassmith7048 I think you are confusing science with mixing and matching and trying out new stuff. ‘Creative Experimenting’ in the kitchen has nothing to do with science and the application of the scientific method to test a theory.
Fentanyl doesn’t think the same… lmao
Allahu Ahkbar
Master of colorful hypothesis.... 😂😂😂😂
80 - 90 sorties of powerfull drugs? this guy is wasted
It's a shame you're a Dan, letting the side down with this comment! It's not alcohol. What's so powerful about this medicine? All it does is give some life guidance/healing so yeah! Very powerful. It won't poison you or scar your liver, no hangover.
I understand your fear, if you're not prepared you may have a difficult 10 mins under DMT ,once you relax a bit with it (with experience) you can literally use it for whatever you focus on leading up to it. That's why many people will use it multiple times. Each time the fear diminishes and you find deeper insight, but that's it my friend. No people in the hospital right now are dying from DMT. No-one is waiting for a liver transplant and no-one is kicking off at the nurse because they've not been seen yet...
Now tell me which is the dangerous drug?. DMT is powerful because it opens your mind, quite literally, I'd like to imagine, but nothing more.
Which one is healing people and which one is killing people?
Which one would you choose?
I made my choice a long time ago, so now I spend my time commenting.and explaining, that just because it's sold in a shop.with taxes doesn't make alcohol safe.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it is dangerous.
Open your heart mate, don't judge people too quickly. It really really helped me and lots of people like me. If you have no demons or regret or anything along the lines of PTSD, then it's quite literally a life saver. Thank god (it also increases a sense of spirituality)
Someone, please give donald trump this IV drip and maybe he will become a moral man. 😂😂
Moral - like Bill Clinton is?
The Republican party is interested in freedom of choices over one's own body. ROFL, has this guy been under a rock?
So unalive a child in the womb is freedom of choices over ones body? Dude give it up
Keep licking Biden’s boot . Oh wait he had to step down due to his mental incompetence to be replaced by an installed candidate that received 0 votes to run for president
@@jasonlindholm5938 I didn't say shit about what's right and wrong in regards to "freedom of choice", I merely found it amusing that Graham claims the Republican party believes in freedom over one's body yet they do the exact opposite by taking away rights. Looks like you got triggered homie, are you a special snowflake?
If you put both on an absolute spectrum I imagine you would find more freedom of choice for one’s own body as being a Republican. Hard to quantify in absolute terms because there are tons of regulations that regulate our bodies but republicans are in favor of protecting self defense capabilities, more pro freedom of speech, against vaccine mandates, moderate on abortion, moderate on drug legalizations, and also want to diminish and maybe even do away with the potentiality of the draft.
Democrats are less in favor of self defense capabilities, want to censor speech more, pro vaccine mandates, want to expand abortion options, moderate on drug legalization but in a different way, and want to expand the draft to women.
The problem is that bodily autonomy is more complicated than the platitude that is “my body my choice” but people are not the brightest and they fall pray to these tribal political slogans. Republicans are probably a little better but both parties suck in general.
Live vegan, non human animals are conscious.
Can't everyone would die of industrial sludge go look at what your eating
Carrots are also conscious and alive. Eat fruit only, no protein, only fruit. Nuts take too much water.
Also you need to live where the fruit grows so there's no transportation. Transportation kills animals slowly.
This shit was interesting in 2014. shits old now
Yeah history from thousands of years ago was only interesting 10 years ago
*makes monkey noises
*Throws poop at u
hurr durr look at me, everything I already know is no longer interesting to anyone else alive on the planet
@@flflflflflfl I was there before it was cool
Wow you’re so cool man, you’re so trendy man you’re so smart man so informed man wow man.
@@Seegie16 yeah right, back in 2014 DMT wasn't cool, lmao
Спасибо Лёха
This guy has to go to jail 😂
Where did I put my BS detector?
Probably up flints Bum,
When you see him tell him to give back my socks too and to stop eating them like toast.
How do you talk about the beginning of civilization and start with South America? Smashing thousands of years of history together to fit a narrative… Africa and the Nile valley should have been the only discussion if this was supposed to be the topic. Two tamahus I’m not surprised they didn’t speak of Africa it’s really black. I nuk Kemetyu Dua netcheru.
Sounds like most religions....
Don't sell your soul short....
Straight Up yo azz 😂
@thomasm9461 ha that's exactly what I was gonna say. 😅