🎼 Microtonal Composition in "Fluid Just Intonation" - Rosie Sheldon

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  • This piece uses the concept of individually tuning each chord to Just Intonation, but relative to a note from the last chord, creating a fluid Just Intonation that is free from the base of Equal Temperament. This idea is similar to the way that professional choirs intonate with each other and the resulting pitch drifts, but instead in the context of electronic music.
    Acknowledgements:
    • Adam Neely for his explanation of “Xenharmony” and concept of tuning an accompaniment to Just Intonation around an equally tempered melody. This is the concept I wanted to take further and break free from Equal Temperament entirely.
    - “The 7 Levels of Jazz Harmony” - • The 7 Levels of Jazz H...
    • Jacob Collier for his use of subtle microtonality in his music, notably his modulation to G half sharp major in “In the Bleak Midwinter” using Just Intonation to pivot to the new tuning centre, and David Bruce for his deconstruction of this.
    - “In the Bleak Midwinter” - • Jacob Collier - In the...
    - “How to Modulate to G 1/2 Sharp (Jacob Collier-style)” - • How to Modulate to G 1...
    • Jacob Collier’s other concepts of how microtonality can be used in music, including microtonal voice leading (by dividing an interval into differently sized equally spaced intervals), explained throughout interviews with June Lee (who has transcribed many of his works).
    - “Interview: Jacob Collier (Part 1)” - • Interview: Jacob Colli...
    - “Interview: Jacob Collier (Part 2)” - • Interview: Jacob Colli...
    - “Interview: Jacob Collier (Part 3)” - • Interview: Jacob Colli...
    • Dolores Catherino and her explanation of the concept of Polychromatic Music, using instruments and harmony that transcend the boundaries of 12-tone Equal Temperament, as well as her ideas for how this music can be notated with colour. Her various compositions using these instruments also inspired this composition.
    - “What is Polychromatic Music? - An introduction with comparison of modern microtonal instruments.” - • What is Polychromatic ...
    - “'Toward the Continuum' - 2nd Iteration, Polychromatic composition by Dolores Catherino” - • 'Toward the Continuum'...
    • Sevish for their creation of the website “sevish.com/scaleworkshop” and tutorials on how to use this, which was used to create the tuning files in order to program the Just Intonation ratios for the software instruments. Their microtonal compositions inspired this composition, which use various divisions per octave, and sometimes unconventional time signatures, in the style of modern electronic music.
    - “Using Microtones in Electronic Music (microtonal tutorial)” - • Using Microtones in El...
    - “Making microtonal scales with Scale Workshop” - • Making microtonal scal...
    - “Sevish - Gleam (22-tone microtonal 5/4 beat)” - • Sevish - Gleam (22-ton...
    This piece was composed in 2021 for 2nd year of university.
    Listen on SoundCloud: / akpqm
    Purchase sheet music here: www.sheetmusicdirect.com/en-U...
    Support my work: ko-fi.com/rosiesheldon
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  • @SurnameName
    @SurnameName 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    i like how this isn't just interesting on a technical level, but also genuinely sounds awesome

  • @prophetpug7929
    @prophetpug7929 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    AND it’s in 7/8?!?!! This is truly a masterpiece 🔥 🔥

  • @NavJordaan
    @NavJordaan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    amazing. i love the concept of the key gradually rising up by fractions of semitones, really creates a kind of hype that you can't reproduce in 12tet!

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your feelings are irrational

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@Fire_Axus every emotion is irrational when we have logic to guide our actions. But without them, music is nothing but organized sounds :)

    • @05degrees
      @05degrees 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fire_Axus Adding to Tachy’s words, also emotions really have their own logic, it’s just it can be not what we wanted (or what we thought we wanted!). But given that we often want different incompatible things and don’t have precise formalized plans and knowledge, what else is there to wish? We can, though, get better and better understanding of how our own psyche tends to behave (which changes over time but we can catch up)-including how our emotions are mostly triggered and what they give or take from us-and get advantages.
      That’s so very far from the stance stamping emotions as irrational-it’s not helping anyone with anything! Emotions are there whether we want it or not, whether we understand them well or not so well, and they will make us irrational precisely if we don’t want to get to grips with them. Emotions aren’t alien, they aren’t exactly extrinsic to our thought process and they can’t and shouldn’t be ripped out of brain as it is, right now. Maybe in the future-but now we don’t know all what we need to know to safely change our psychic hardware. And now, yes, human brain is suboptimal and was naturally selected in silly ways, but just saying “that’s wrong” isn’t really a single ounce of help to anyone. Especially when emotions in question are actually valid and useful.

    • @lunyxappocalypse7071
      @lunyxappocalypse7071 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Variplaning as coined by Sevish.

    • @lunyxappocalypse7071
      @lunyxappocalypse7071 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@05degrees An alternative interpretation is that if emotions were music notes, they would be irrational.

  • @hughmclellan1450
    @hughmclellan1450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    You should be very proud of this

  • @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich
    @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Imagine music that wasn't limited by any tonal system and we understood a way to be able to choose any frequency. This is this closest I have seen get to that.

    • @RalphScott-wu8ei
      @RalphScott-wu8ei 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can, but any music outside the 12 tone scale sounds like farts

    • @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich
      @igo.spekkyjarvonvreich 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@RalphScott-wu8ei maybe to your basic ears

  • @norbicsek
    @norbicsek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Leaning into the pitch drift instead of trying to avoid it is the way to go!
    Pretty cool stuff, loving the spacey vibes.

  • @tom33453
    @tom33453 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    0:08 it must be the billionth time I've heard the one to major three progression (all of me, yesterday, etc) but in just intonation it just hits so differently! The tragic quality of it just sings

  • @lunyxappocalypse7071
    @lunyxappocalypse7071 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This gives me shivers, its so In TUNE!

  • @stardust-reverie
    @stardust-reverie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    added to my Secret Music playlist

  • @ValQuinn
    @ValQuinn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is phenomenal. A really commercial pop/movie soundtrack vibe while also being experimental. That's an incredible achievement imho.

  • @misterjoj8479
    @misterjoj8479 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fantastic take on microtonal music! Super inspiring

  • @colinmignot6309
    @colinmignot6309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:47 is AMAZING

  • @RemyLuciani
    @RemyLuciani 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've blown my mind and blown the dust of it.

  • @SurnameName
    @SurnameName 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this is quickly becoming one of my favourite pieces of music, like, in general. i keep coming back to it. i also like your other work, but there's just something about this track that i particularly enjoy

    • @RosieSheldon
      @RosieSheldon  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a very high compliment thank you! 😁

    • @SurnameName
      @SurnameName 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RosieSheldon it sounds like what i think filmmakers 30-40 years ago expected the future to sound like

  • @dardhadard837
    @dardhadard837 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I hear that lovely theme of #5 using the III chord I think?

  • @TravisTellsTruths
    @TravisTellsTruths 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very good

  • @MusicalRatExpectations
    @MusicalRatExpectations หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just learned about just intonation today and then I got this gem in my recommended videos. Absolutely loving learning and hearing microtonality. Very cool love this kind of stuff. :)

  • @minerscale
    @minerscale 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love free just intonation it's my favourite way to write microtonal music! I'm yet to find a good way of writing it though. Funnily enough I wrote a composition in my second year of university for an assignment in this exact same system. I could send it over if you're interested.

  • @giannismusic2694
    @giannismusic2694 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful

  • @zhou_sei
    @zhou_sei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    very awesome and such

  • @TachyBunker
    @TachyBunker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the chords, but also the 7/8 feeling haha. How can the modulations be described here? Hard to grasp where it's changing in my mind, even if my ear adjusts very fine.

  • @juliusschaller
    @juliusschaller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    0:19-0:38 new dimension

    • @norbicsek
      @norbicsek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My favorite bit as well

  • @ThomasIrdor
    @ThomasIrdor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bravo

  • @command49.1game6
    @command49.1game6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Diverging Just Intonation babyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!------->>>>> ⏩
    I think I can help tune some of those chords so they don't diverge like crazy.
    🔥I realy like those m7 and maj7 chords with the pivot of the 7th! I have perfect pitch so I realy feel those JI changes in pitch!! 🔥

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      your feelings are irrational

    • @command49.1game6
      @command49.1game6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This music only uses rational numbers though. @@Fire_Axus

    • @Thebepislover
      @Thebepislover 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All feeling are irrational

  • @SnowStreamsToday
    @SnowStreamsToday 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this! Wish i could find more music like this though…

    • @ComradeOnion
      @ComradeOnion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      try sevish. they made some incredible microtonal music

  • @marcosmontanhes
    @marcosmontanhes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very impressive and inspiring, thanks!

  • @nm5012
    @nm5012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh my god this is so good

  • @danobrien3292
    @danobrien3292 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    stunning!!

  • @elliotbjorksdottir2878
    @elliotbjorksdottir2878 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow love it!! Such a cool composition, great work!

  • @staybeam
    @staybeam 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is spectacular

  • @gabrielv145
    @gabrielv145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Da um frio na barriga. Mas a gente acostuma logo

  • @JustDinosaurBones
    @JustDinosaurBones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if space aliens started learning earth instruments

  • @DogesArePros
    @DogesArePros หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing composition! could be used in a space-themed game...
    actually... can i use this in a game?

  • @lydiaelsewhere1504
    @lydiaelsewhere1504 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Space elevator!

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha the microtonalist Elaine walker made an album with that name!

    • @lydiaelsewhere1504
      @lydiaelsewhere1504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TachyBunker cool i'll have to check it out lol! 😸

  • @Shaan_Suri
    @Shaan_Suri 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there some kind of mathematical decisionmaking behind the choice of tuning in a given measure? Or do you simply put what sounds good to you? Great piece by the way👏👏

  • @ClosingTheCircle
    @ClosingTheCircle 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lovely !
    🙏 Please would you tell me how to make those transparent Soundslice scores ?

  • @laurenpinschannels
    @laurenpinschannels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    what software did you use to do this? was it automatic?

    • @RosieSheldon
      @RosieSheldon  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That would have been nice! I used Sevish's online scale workshop to create the different scala files, imported them into Plogue's Sforzando plugin and duplicated it many times for each instrument, key and shift in tuning. I put it all together in Logic Pro X. Each time there was a chord shift it had to use a different instance of the plugin with the new tuning, so there were 196 tracks in total! :)

    • @somatotomy
      @somatotomy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think there's a new program called pivotuner that does something like this.

    • @SnowStreamsToday
      @SnowStreamsToday 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @rosiesheldon yeah, id assume, sounds alot like sevish.

  • @TachyBunker
    @TachyBunker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How did you make this sheet music so beautiful by the way? What softwares.

    • @RosieSheldon
      @RosieSheldon  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks! 😊 I used screenshots from the exported pdf, originally made in Sibelius, then brought them into Final Cut Pro X with a built-in animated background and some colour editing 🥳

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RosieSheldon i see, thanks!

  • @Ei-mx1we
    @Ei-mx1we 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The just intonation makes this sound so dope. I've been wanting to experiment with fluid just intonation, but the only way I can think of to do that is the cpu intensive way of using a new synth instance per every chord. Is that what you did, or did you figure out a more reasonable way to make the just intonation fluid?

    • @RosieSheldon
      @RosieSheldon  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used a new synth instance for every chord, it was very time consuming. @somatotomy mentioned elsewhere in the comments about a program called Pivotuner which seems to do it automatically. Could be worth looking into :)

    • @Ei-mx1we
      @Ei-mx1we 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RosieSheldon Thanks for the tip! Pivotuner seems really promising.

  • @caseyvint
    @caseyvint หลายเดือนก่อน

    bass at 1:48 tingles my sinuses

  • @nomad_0036
    @nomad_0036 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you know, i would love to commission a song like this for a game I'm working on? is this a thing you can do?

    • @RosieSheldon
      @RosieSheldon  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! If you send me an email with some details I'd definitely be interested! You can find my email address under the about section of my channel :)

  • @Shoehazer
    @Shoehazer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you do this?

  • @ThomasIrdor
    @ThomasIrdor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's 1:21 for me

  • @asukalangleysoryu6695
    @asukalangleysoryu6695 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sevish much?