[Guitar Vlog] I played a weird guitar - ft. Adam Neely

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  • @AdamNeely
    @AdamNeely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15514

    I TOLD YOU NOT TO POST THIS. i can't let people ever know i played a guitar ☹️

    • @pispaultje152
      @pispaultje152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1837

      its a 6 string bass

    • @reineh3477
      @reineh3477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +251

      I guess you play guitar like I play bass, ukulele, mandolin or any other instrument with strings. I cheat

    • @Neon-ns4xr
      @Neon-ns4xr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The truth comes out!

    • @BoopyTheFox
      @BoopyTheFox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +578

      Adam Neely:
      * plays not on a bass *
      Davie504:
      Et tu, brute?

    • @bgodley504
      @bgodley504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Same bottom four strings, it’s essentially a bass.

  • @Runoratsu
    @Runoratsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    It‘s called true temperament because no matter how nice and relaxed your luthier usually seems, when you ask him to do fret work on this, you‘ll learn of _his_ true temperament.

    • @ShadowLancer128
      @ShadowLancer128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is objectively the funniest guitar joke that I've heard in over 12 years and honestly thank you so much my god!

    • @vege-gaming
      @vege-gaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lose temper
      That's true

    • @stefankrause5138
      @stefankrause5138 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ShadowLancer128 so what was the joke you've heared 13 years ago?

  • @keggerous
    @keggerous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    I love how that guitar sounds... it's so smooth, warm, and clear. It's almost harp-like.

    • @leifvejby8023
      @leifvejby8023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yes, wonderfully clear, not muddy at all like any decent guitar

    • @pamelahardy2907
      @pamelahardy2907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @daucyification
      @daucyification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the tune knob.

    • @falsenotefest
      @falsenotefest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes but unfortunately the death of False Notes

    • @leifvejby8023
      @leifvejby8023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@falsenotefest Believe I can manage without

  • @akunz24
    @akunz24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4797

    Adam, is that a short scale 6 string soprano bass? Siiick duude

    • @thedutchdjentleman
      @thedutchdjentleman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Dancing Cossack a toy bass, if you will...

    • @libertarious
      @libertarious 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      He just needs to feed it, it will eventually grow into a real instrument. ;)

    • @mccalltrader
      @mccalltrader 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I read that before I saw what he was playing..lol

    • @Zer0Spinn
      @Zer0Spinn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kugelspecht Einhorn same

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @asampleman34
    @asampleman34 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2594

    It sounds like a keyboard with a really good electric guitar setting.

    • @destianpatrianagara1119
      @destianpatrianagara1119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      3:55 Yeah i think that's what he meant by "A.I. guitar"

    • @duckduckgo358
      @duckduckgo358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yep way sharper crisp sound

    • @duckduckgo358
      @duckduckgo358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Would be cool if they made sure to use the same strings and pick ups tho

    • @majigaining
      @majigaining 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      But standard keyboards aren't equally tempered either

    • @jeebuz6627
      @jeebuz6627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mazy no but they are programmed with perfect frequency’s. That’s what these guitars are trying to do

  • @ic7846
    @ic7846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +677

    It's like he's always playing on open strings

    • @bruhroyale12123
      @bruhroyale12123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Like a harp

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      indeed. 1000% accurate man!

    • @NeverTalkToCops1
      @NeverTalkToCops1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, it's not like that at all.

    • @Rockandwow03
      @Rockandwow03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @
      Bϟ I get what you're trying to say and I think that even talking of open strings, you still get a bit of dissonance when G & B are played together especially. Which bring it back to what Adam said about major 3rds in the video.

    • @po9710
      @po9710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rockandwow03 To me that sounds like an artifact of the 12-TET system which has minor beating in the 3rds at the sake of more compensated 4ths and 5ths

  • @neilslater877
    @neilslater877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3229

    Oh look it's an alternate reality of Good Mythical Morning

    • @riverevans726
      @riverevans726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha

    • @mikansan8216
      @mikansan8216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      Good Musical Morning

    • @wheelzwheela
      @wheelzwheela 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      A better one these days.

    • @leemsky
      @leemsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mikansan8216 clever

    • @elektrik-fz4up
      @elektrik-fz4up 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If only Adam Neely (Link) wore glasses here

  • @karlradaza1260
    @karlradaza1260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2970

    To my hearing, the weird guitar sounds clearer and easier to the ear..

    • @AnimationArrow
      @AnimationArrow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      That's what it's supposed to do. It's just they are so used to the sound of a regular guitar that in relation to that it sounded off.

    • @Jaqen-HGhar
      @Jaqen-HGhar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@AnimationArrow Yeah it really threw me off that they couldn't hear how much better the Strandberg sounded compared to the Fender. I mean sure there were some parts where the Fender sounded better but then again it looks like they are playing a custom shop Fender semi-hollow against a solid-body Strandberg and that's not really a fair comparison.

    • @TheDutchCreeperTDC
      @TheDutchCreeperTDC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Doesn't that also have to do with pickups/tone though?

    • @611gay5
      @611gay5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Are they both playing through the same amp?

    • @TheDutchCreeperTDC
      @TheDutchCreeperTDC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@611gay5 I don't think so I see two amps miced up ( the one to Adams right and one right behind Pauls back)

  • @artemiosnicola523
    @artemiosnicola523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    I feel like Morty when he experienced true level.

    • @kjl3080
      @kjl3080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      eVerYtHingS CrooKed

    • @danielking8163
      @danielking8163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Every thing is a lie!

    • @ryyymyyy
      @ryyymyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i can never go back!

    • @leoncorbett4553
      @leoncorbett4553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooh 😯
      Ooooh oooh 🥵

    • @kamilmuslimov4135
      @kamilmuslimov4135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Reality is poison!

  • @jaibhimadevi5805
    @jaibhimadevi5805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    I didn't know how badly the imperfections in "normal" guitars bugged me until watching this- I NEED TRUE TEMPERAMENT EVERYTHING NOW

    • @isetta4083
      @isetta4083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Hate to break it to you but Adam is going through a microtone phase rn

    • @iz2333
      @iz2333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      EVERYTHING IS CROOOKED

    • @Jarrettfan
      @Jarrettfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too. Its like harmonic nirvana.

    • @coder0xff
      @coder0xff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then you'll love "just intonation" even more.

    • @Knuts_n
      @Knuts_n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@coder0xff my thoughts exactly. If you think "equal temperament" is the best it gets "Just intonation" is a whole different level of musical OCD

  • @owenalmoney9808
    @owenalmoney9808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1838

    Adam blink twice if you're playing that guitar against your will

    • @VOLAIRE
      @VOLAIRE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      He blinked too many times.... I think he really is in trouble...

    • @journeythecrab493
      @journeythecrab493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      VOLAIRE ♪ lets save this man, he’s clearly being tortured!

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lolll great comment

  • @nicholasr-m1631
    @nicholasr-m1631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    as an orchestral string player i cannot tell you how refreshing it was to hear this guitar

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      agreed! without a doubt right dude

    • @jahread3322
      @jahread3322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Problem solved...get rid of frets all together

    • @heatherhanlon2799
      @heatherhanlon2799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jahread3322 this would actually be a great idea because it would also get rid of fret buzz, and eliminate the need for refrets as well

    • @emilnemyl448
      @emilnemyl448 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@heatherhanlon2799 A Great idea until you actually tried to play that instrument :D

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All this time you have been doing your perfect intonation violins and all that stuff while we noob fretted instrument players have gotten used to the approximation lololol

  • @Blitterbug
    @Blitterbug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    To my ears that guitar sounds impossibly perfect on every chord you played. I now understand why I can always hear beating in my chords no matter how much I tune my guitars, even with an electronic tuner. Mystery solved, finally! Thanks for this, you guys - great collab, wonderfully useful video.

    • @coder0xff
      @coder0xff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You should also make sure your guitar is "set up" correctly. The intonation and action should be adjusted to minimize this.

    • @lpawowp
      @lpawowp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steve ... i didn't

    • @nostalgiafactor733
      @nostalgiafactor733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Steve wait so it's not good that my 12th fret is half a note too low?

    • @monrow11
      @monrow11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The best way to see temperament is on the piano. Pianos sound really deferent when you mess with the temperament. All of these stringed instruments need to be slightly out of tune with themselves or they will only sound good in one key.

    • @Blitterbug
      @Blitterbug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nostalgiafactor733 Oops...!

  • @hipsterscout1
    @hipsterscout1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    I love how when you play in unison the tuning causes a really lush natural chorus

    • @natasgabel1672
      @natasgabel1672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sounds like the modulating sound on a vibraphone

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I noticed that chorus effect as well the few times they played in unison. They should have done it more for emphasis.

    • @demolitionkid2
      @demolitionkid2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This effect is how they have created that high end studio guitar sound for years. Record multiple copies/takes/dubs of the same part. Then take at least 2 takes and pan one hard left or right, then the second pan the opposite way. This creates a natural unison from 2 mono sounds. This same process is used with vocals and leads. Your welcome! ;)

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@demolitionkid2 I assumed that was common knowledge.

    • @derekbiggerstaff
      @derekbiggerstaff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out "Pictures of Matchstick Men" from the 60's. Two guitars in unison intentionally out of tune.

  • @andrewbailey7999
    @andrewbailey7999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Those 2 guitars being played together gives a fantastic sounding chorus effect!

  • @midi510
    @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +998

    If all guitar frets had always been adjusted for intonation, what we're used to now would be totally unacceptable.

    • @bradleywheeler3970
      @bradleywheeler3970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Yeah, I think it's ridiculous that they decide that they don't like it at the end. Why would you want your instrument out of tune?

    • @johnpickering2008
      @johnpickering2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@bradleywheeler3970 Because it's what give it character. It's why the perfect guitar sounds almost MIDI. For example violin strings vibrate in a very unusual non-sinusoidal shape. It's why it has it's own perculiar sound. Or like a microtonal instrument.
      I quite like it clean but would love to hear some very heavy music to see if the dissonance adds anything there.

    • @psd993
      @psd993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@johnpickering2008 in medieval times, guitar like instruments had guts wound around the neck to act as frets and musicians used to move them around, or put them at an angle to make them sound right. So the idea is definitely not new. Modern musicians also wrote music for guitar trying to avoid certain intervals on certain pairs of strings etc. I think there's an interview where eddie van halen talks about something similar... his explanation is wrong, but he nevertheless describes an actual phenomenon.

    • @johnpickering2008
      @johnpickering2008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@psd993 I know. But if making the exact perfect note was all that mattered then now we don't even need instruments because this guitar is not as in tune as a midi file

    • @inciseinfinity
      @inciseinfinity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      ​@@johnpickering2008 it's not about the perfect note. it's about intonation, and consonance that brings up comforting emotions. and midi files barely conveys emotion, if any at all. you're saying as if the importance of instruments merely lies on accuracy, and not emotion and expression. accuracy is only part of the equation, that's what makes the true temperament guitar different from midi files.
      and violinists tend to strive to be as in tune as possible, in order to make their sound consonant and pleasant to the audience. just because the strings vibrate unusually when bowed, doesn't mean that it sounds out of tune though. don't bring us into your argument lmao
      most heavy music already has dissonance in its composition, such as the incorporation of minor seconds/tritones which are already super dissonant by itself. there's no need to sacrifice consonance for that teeny tiny extra dissonance that you want in your music.

  • @tiuskilin2573
    @tiuskilin2573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    Looks like the guitar i tried to refret the other day...

    • @chrisullery3386
      @chrisullery3386 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tiuskilin hahaha thanks for the laugh brother!

    • @matejnovotny
      @matejnovotny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just wanted to write something like: “must be fun to refret that thing” 😂

  • @DorGreen1
    @DorGreen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    That D major sounded like a too good MIDI plugin because of how perfect the pitch on each string is

    • @Impaled_Onion-thatsmine
      @Impaled_Onion-thatsmine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is not said is that the system is designed for certain keys and some keys are actually in less tune than normal frets so it would be a good system for acoustic guitar I was this close to buying one

    • @davepayne164
      @davepayne164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. Very nice. Very musical. But soulless.

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@davepayne164 i think soulless is too harsh to describe it
      I know what you mean though

    • @burakverid646
      @burakverid646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      watch?v=mdpCnRSeshU I tried hours to have this D chord in my guitar and i failed a dozen year ago.. This video makes perfect sense, It s the exact D in the intro of that song. The guitar was probably tuned for that exact D chord in the recording.

    • @dougleydorite
      @dougleydorite ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AzathothsAlarmClock exactly… the element of human imperfection is still there. You can still fret too hard. Pick too hard or inconsistent. Use vibrato etc… it’s just now you are closer to the mid-point which gives you more room for error and less time doing re-takes in the studio

  • @Viper-dz2kw
    @Viper-dz2kw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1486

    All the chords sound like open chords and that’s just freaky

    • @GijsvanDam
      @GijsvanDam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      I was looking for this comment, to make sure it was not just me being nuts

    • @ClikcerProductions
      @ClikcerProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Wait one second, I was just listening to the video in the background, you're telling me some of those chords WEREN'T open?

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they sound right purdy to me

    • @danzirulez
      @danzirulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      but sounds really clear and crispy, I love it!

    • @udontknowme293
      @udontknowme293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's because this guitar has fret 0 instead of saddle

  • @QuikdethDeviantart
    @QuikdethDeviantart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1426

    It makes your bass player angry but your keyboard player loves it...

    • @NiskRanThawll
      @NiskRanThawll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      As a bassist I love the tone of the true temp system.
      Good job I can play fretless and just do it naturally 😂
      But damn it sounds so good and the harmonics are so clean with such little dissonance.

    • @elvinbrian
      @elvinbrian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I don't know why but hearing the perfect tones makes me feel at ease

    • @earlycuyler2295
      @earlycuyler2295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Screw the keyboard player. Dudes an asshole anyway!if i want sombody that plays maybe 10 notes in a song while complaining about everyone elses instruments...well i dig his number up.

    • @jomamma1750
      @jomamma1750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would actually be easier to match tone in a line I think, especially with a fretless.

    • @MattiasDalaDahlqvist
      @MattiasDalaDahlqvist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@earlycuyler2295 well there are keyboard players in bands, and then there are Jordan Rudess.. and he doesn't screw around with how many notes he plays :)

  • @adg1017
    @adg1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    When both are playing together, it sounds like one guitar playing through a chorus pedal.

  • @PaulDavids
    @PaulDavids  5 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    This is a video about the first impressions we had when playing this quite unique fretting system called True Temperament. I'd love to explore it some more with different sounds (especially with overdrive or distortion) and different applications. Anyways, I think it's quite fun to just watch us develop our first thoughts and opinions during this little vid :)

    • @natalievelasquez2664
      @natalievelasquez2664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul, thanks for all you do for us guitarists around the world man. Adam is definitely a boss for what he does.. Amazing bass player man 🤘🎸

    • @DavidNwokoye
      @DavidNwokoye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's probably the coolest strandberg I've ever seen

    • @alexandersiebert2868
      @alexandersiebert2868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      get the guitar for more vids :D

    • @fresquitotv
      @fresquitotv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mattias IA Eklundh has been using TT for quite a while now. One thing you didn't touch upon is how the harmonics are in tune with the fret.

    • @freereinvoltaic
      @freereinvoltaic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul Davids That Telecaster is great! I would get it.

  • @RickGuitarist94
    @RickGuitarist94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2693

    R.I.P. to whoever has to re-fret that guitar someday

    • @foljs5858
      @foljs5858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Probably the maker, under warranty?

    • @mr.youtube1653
      @mr.youtube1653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@foljs5858 still tho

    • @FFxO
      @FFxO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Just throw away.. Or convert into home decor

    • @philanaemic
      @philanaemic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I think theres a video on the Crimson Guitars channel showing a true temperament fret job. Looked like an absolute nightmare job, not for the weak of patience.

    • @mizzclaireelizabeth
      @mizzclaireelizabeth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Bolt on neck i think? just replace lol

  • @soundanswer
    @soundanswer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is awesome! I remember tuning my guitar by ear when I was learning and went crazy trying to get it in tune. It’s always bothered me. Sometimes when I’m recording something delicate in a specific area of the instrument I’ll tune it so THAT specific area is perfectly in tune. It’s cool to see the technical reason why this is. Awesome!

  • @TheZooropaBaby
    @TheZooropaBaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1360

    But are they in tune with the chakra tho

    • @PaulDavids
      @PaulDavids  5 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      I tuned 'em with my third eye, so I guess...

    • @TheZooropaBaby
      @TheZooropaBaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@PaulDavids its so funny that you released this after Adam talking about weird tuning system that people claim to be in tune with chakra or whatever

    • @adamlowry8687
      @adamlowry8687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      BAD FREQUENCYS!!

    • @Hectorinho69
      @Hectorinho69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But for real, thats the notes that a piano has, the only problem i see is when you have to play with other guitarrist of basist

    • @InHousePussy
      @InHousePussy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shakira is always in tune.

  • @MostlyEarTraining
    @MostlyEarTraining 5 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    to me the true temp fret guitar sounds almost like a sampled guitar ... it sort of sounds "fake" because it's so "perfect."

    • @rantanplan7474
      @rantanplan7474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there's nothing perfect to it. It's just meant to sound more harmonious

    • @salvegames
      @salvegames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lobo Cachondo the strandberg?

  • @loggrad9842
    @loggrad9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Both of them: "I'm used to hearing guitars with crappy pitch, so I can't work with this thing."

    • @Chillnel
      @Chillnel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It ruins blues hahahah 🤣

    • @rpbmpn
      @rpbmpn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Seriously, what the hell. Like their ears are so good it’s working against them because they’ve got too use to hearing the exact wrong pitches. The bent frets sound so much better to me.

    • @isaiahmumaw
      @isaiahmumaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@rpbmpn it’s a matter of taste. Imperfections can easily hurt music just as easily as they can help it. A lot of it depends on who is playing and how they’re playing.

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hehehe excellent

    • @kollabrock
      @kollabrock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly what I thought! That put a serious dent on Adam Neely´s and Paul Davids reputation as musicians, at least for me. I wonder how many hours they have spent in the studio trying to get rid of `those familiar beatings in the sound`?

  • @TheJMan1K
    @TheJMan1K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1141

    It basically sounds like what we think a guitar sounds like in our head

    • @TheJMan1K
      @TheJMan1K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Lobo Cachondo the headstock is just to big

    • @NotBorno
      @NotBorno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @Lobo Cachondo no no you should definitely try vaseline

    • @gator7994
      @gator7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NotBorno r/woooosh

    • @NotBorno
      @NotBorno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@gator7994 right back at you

    • @gator7994
      @gator7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NotBorno What?

  • @gabrieltenorio7707
    @gabrieltenorio7707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    Poor Adam... Playing a guitar....

  • @XaleManix
    @XaleManix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those arpeggios between both guitars, with the subtle difference in intonation sounded sounding at once so beautiful oh my goodness

    • @StephenChapman
      @StephenChapman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's more or less like a chorus effect! Some bands have used that as a sort of studio trick: record two guitars, but have one of them just sliiightly out of tune from the other (and maybe even only certain strings at that). Sounds marvelous. The original recording of Angel's Son by Sevendust did this with the acoustic guitars: th-cam.com/video/56fPSbkzMCI/w-d-xo.html

  • @TheBossskinhead
    @TheBossskinhead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +484

    I'm trying to figure out who Justin Tonation is. He probably hangs out with Jason Waterfals

    • @BlueGrenadeTom
      @BlueGrenadeTom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      andy rocksteady - and Theresa Greene

    • @gl1zzy999
      @gl1zzy999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I bet he has a Huge Ackman

    • @williambristow2795
      @williambristow2795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Or mike ocsbig

    • @BlueGrenadeTom
      @BlueGrenadeTom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No word of a lie - I had a class at uni with a lad called Michael Hunt! His parents either had a wicked off sense of humour, are they were reet naive. And why he didn’t use his middle name or something... maybe he liked it... or never got the joke...

    • @goodnightmr5892
      @goodnightmr5892 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My God.....I thought I was the only one!!

  • @marshalmallow1844
    @marshalmallow1844 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    When you were both playing the same chords, there was a chorusing effect that I think really shows the difference between them

    • @andromedusmoat9608
      @andromedusmoat9608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the only comment on here that means anything in relation to the science behind this...
      The rest is all 'weird!' or 'cool!'.

    • @Chillnel
      @Chillnel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noticed that so cool 😂

  • @mikhail_roberts
    @mikhail_roberts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    The weird guitar has clearer overtones. So we're actually hearing a what sounds like a fuller and cleaner sound out of it.

    • @ladybluelotus
      @ladybluelotus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed!

    • @KarstenJohansson
      @KarstenJohansson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Okay, but the "normal guitar" has a significantly warmer tone. As much as I love to hear a band like Dream Theater using the perfected notes, the really great guitar players have all adjusted to reach perfect notes - the type and placement of their vibrato, how far they do bends, how wide their vibrato is, etc. I would expect switching to the wobbly-fretted guitar to diminish those stylistic fixes, making for a really dull lot of players who all sound synthesized.

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this comment is 100% right!

    • @nathanreiber6819
      @nathanreiber6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@KarstenJohansson timbre is not an issue of temperament, it's literally the electronics and acoustic quality of the instrument. not fret spacing that cause a "warmer tone"

    • @KarstenJohansson
      @KarstenJohansson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanreiber6819 The "warmth" comment was actually an aside. I should have made that more obvious because on re-reading, it is certainly not clear.
      The warmth comment was just an observation, and everything that follows was the main thing I was actually on about. Sorry 'bout that. :)

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    That does look fairly interesting for comparison on the traditional guitar. It does look like something meant for Fusion Jazz or Progressive Metal, and that was what makes it up my alley! Awesome to see Adam on the Channel!

    • @michaelinglis8516
      @michaelinglis8516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Progressive metal or any metal relys on a lot of dissonance. That guitar would take the life out of your playing. Like for example animals as leaders, tosin uses lots of dissonance with 2nd intervals etc. That wouldn't sound the same with TT. I personally think it would be least useful in metal genres. With that said I still love Paul's videos and at one point I was even a patreon of his.

    • @RC32Smiths01
      @RC32Smiths01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelinglis8516 Ahhh I see. Well I do most certainly understand your paradigm surrounding that man. Also glad to hear that you are indeed a supporter of him

    • @renzo3939
      @renzo3939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don´t really agree, I think that this way the dissonance would "make more sense" , you can still use tritones/minor 2nd intervals and they´d just sound better imo

    • @--TOM--
      @--TOM-- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@renzo3939 true

    • @steppbrooEFT
      @steppbrooEFT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@renzo3939 yeap, more symmetrical dissonance intervals like a tritone make it more dissonant and give a more grainy texture when distortion is added

  • @JacobawSnow
    @JacobawSnow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    You know what you have to do now right? Record a song tracked with true tempered guitar and bass, then tracked with regular guitar and bass.

  • @hbc431
    @hbc431 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the true temp guitar just sounds perfectly in tune with some chords like a guitar preset on a synth it lacks the warmness of the tele but its free from the dissonance which can be quite jarring sometimes i like it hope to see more of them being played

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I hired a guy who stands behind me and adjust each tuning key as I play to take it slightly sharp or flat. That way I have perfect pitch all the time. Genius! But Chester gets real tired after Eruption...

    • @rb032682
      @rb032682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Isn't that what Gibson's robo-tuners were supposed to do? LOL!

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol pro comment

  • @billyvitale8994
    @billyvitale8994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    The stranberg or whatever it is with the weird frets...sounded so much clearer ..the tele had a winderful tone but It didn't sound as musical ..man its 2019 ..if somebody finally figured out how to give a guitar better intonation why not embrace it..I am sold. My ears were so pleased ...I am not sure if I will find peace till I try a better intonated such as this.

    • @legendfpv
      @legendfpv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The tech is over a decade old.

    • @its1110
      @its1110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@legendfpv
      All the intonation "tricks" are centuries old, actually. The 'Netz has given them exposure, along with many boutique/custom luthier shops. There has to be a critical-mass of buyers to make such stuff fly.
      The method for achieving some of the tricks, and marketing them, may be new. Some folks tried to patent some of this stuff and found they couldn't because it was ancient prior-art.

    • @Omertahun
      @Omertahun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can watch a recent interview with Ola Strandberg here, very interesting : th-cam.com/video/F3AWXdDrZbg/w-d-xo.html

    • @jimbop3153
      @jimbop3153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Lobo Cachondo Why would I need a pair? I'd just shove a single chopstick in one ear and all the way through to the other side

    • @MichaelRuhe1706
      @MichaelRuhe1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have invented and patented a better way of calculating fret positions, with strait frets, and lots of people ask me to build them a guitar because of this, but never any big manufacturer showed interest - they are just to lasy....

  • @MarkToast99
    @MarkToast99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    That guitar looks a whole lot like the time I tried to draw my dad's guitar when I was 5 years old.

  • @mattrector431
    @mattrector431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I have to say, that guitar sounds more like a harp than a guitar with that "perfect" intonation. It think it cool. Get it👍

  • @macleadg
    @macleadg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    As a violinist, I get frustrated playing guitars, because they’re never quite in tune, and you can’t adjust pitch. I like this guitar... closer to what I want to hear...👍

    • @midi510
      @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      You just need a fretless guitar. Fretless basses are more common, but guitars are around.

    • @midi510
      @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      th-cam.com/video/tKEGjIYCCcg/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/yshLWYjMijo/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/al1Fp6wd-P8/w-d-xo.html

    • @midi510
      @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @fjf sjdnx Frettless stringed instrument players make continuous minor adjustments to their finger position to play each note in pitch. In a fretted stringed instrument, the fret determines the pitch (for any given string tension) and as you go up the neck, the notes go in and out of pitch. Fan fretted and staggered fretted instruments aim to reduce the problem, but no frets and a good ear are best.

    • @megusta9045
      @megusta9045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@midi510 fretless dont really sound like a guitar, they seem to lose their identity, Im digging the temperament frets

    • @midi510
      @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@megusta9045 They don't sound like a fretted guitar, of course. A fretless bass doesn't sound like a fretted bass, either.

  • @djonfonsteen6331
    @djonfonsteen6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It sounds exactly like a guitar should do. Holds tune in all positions. Its design evolution. Awesomely Mint

  • @MatsGarage
    @MatsGarage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    The true temperament guitar sounds soo much clearer and I guess "open/airy" is the best word I can describe it with.

    • @cubeslicegames
      @cubeslicegames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I feel like that's just the tone of the guitar

    • @matteogori9050
      @matteogori9050 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      that has nothing to do with the frets though, it's the pickups and amps

    • @WLxMusic
      @WLxMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      it sounds like midi guitar, perfectly pitched notes.

    • @boarderking133
      @boarderking133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's not the true temperament. That's a strandberg vs Tele difference

    • @2204JCM
      @2204JCM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To me regular guitars have an “edgy” tuning. The TT guitars sounds sweeter/ more in tune.

  • @markhindenp2850
    @markhindenp2850 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I wish i could have heard it. That true intonation sounded crazy even on my smart phone. So crazy. I loved it.

  • @pmcm-ih1ep
    @pmcm-ih1ep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    When playing an open D maj chord, you eventually learn to press down on the G string about half the pressure of the other strings depending on how you tune the thing and similar tricks with other open chords. You find a compromise between chords tuning it so each chord sounds the best. It's that dreaded G string 1st and 3rd frets which intonate the worst hence the massive difference there on the TT frets.

    • @christhompson6520
      @christhompson6520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, yes, and definitely yes

    • @johnnolcox8768
      @johnnolcox8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This explains why my G string always needs the most adjustments

    • @loosingparts6159
      @loosingparts6159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nailed it. I didn’t even realize that’s what I was doing for 40 years. Had to pick it up and check. Yup.

  • @northernbrother1258
    @northernbrother1258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    I'd like to have that guitar just so that I could play an open D chord occasionally and not want to smash the guitar against the wall.

    • @elijahwojcik2471
      @elijahwojcik2471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Northern Brother true

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      a rather expensive bit of smashing you've got there

    • @xylotehwarrior
      @xylotehwarrior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      i have avoided open D chords my entire life and now i think i know why... because they sound like shit

    • @hunger993
      @hunger993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      protip play the a, and ignore the high e

    • @radeklew1
      @radeklew1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@hunger993 that's kind of drastic though, and it's technically a D/A if you do that

  • @eliasdavalos3593
    @eliasdavalos3593 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1622

    Stop calling it "beating." It's scientific term is "wub wubs."

    • @Gooberpatrol66
      @Gooberpatrol66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      b i n a u r a l b e a t s

    • @TheMently
      @TheMently 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thanks for that. Before Adam called it 'beating' I was wondering how to say it in english.. but 'Wub wubs' sounds quite more familiar to me 😂. I laughed..

    • @zbnmth
      @zbnmth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Isn't the correct term interference? ;P

    • @GodzillaGoesGaga
      @GodzillaGoesGaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beating/modulation/interference are all the same. It is basically because the notes are not harmonically related by proper integer divisors.

    • @kaktotak8267
      @kaktotak8267 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Modulation and interference have far more general meaning when it comes to interaction of multiple waves. Beating refers to the pattern of oscillating amplitude of sound when 2 sounds with close frequencies are played simultaneously.

  • @theaviary238
    @theaviary238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I can't stand the sound of a "normal" guitar now. Thanks. 😀

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yep. 110% right

    • @ItzhakWoolf
      @ItzhakWoolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What is more attracive to me is more of resonance than intonation... The resonance of Strandberg sounds more balanced.

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ItzhakWoolf i dont think that has to do with the frets though

    • @ItzhakWoolf
      @ItzhakWoolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Rex-golf_player810 Yep. I mean wood, or maybe pickups. So it's not quite a identical or fair comparison.

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ItzhakWoolf the pickups are absolutely a huge part of it

  • @WillieWonka
    @WillieWonka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It was a very strange feeling for me because when you played the chord on the telecaster I felt it was the right thing, but when I hear the chords on the other guitar I feel that everything fits together, I feel the "weird" guitar more familiar and natural and when it comes back to playing a telecaster chord after hearing the same chord on the other guitar, I feel we have been ruled by a canon. Sorry for my english. Kisses from Barcelona.

  • @TheAmazingCobalt
    @TheAmazingCobalt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Hearing the D major chord hurts so badly on a standard guitar as soon as someone points out how off it sounds.

    • @EobardFerguson
      @EobardFerguson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I thought it was just me! I've always wondered why it never sounds quite right.

    • @rickettsaudiodesign
      @rickettsaudiodesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha, for the first year I was starting to learn to play guitar I just thought I sucked or my B and E strings were always out of turn when playing D major. Now I’ve just gotten used to it

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I always tune down the E a bit, i think Jimmy page used to do that, i think it sounds a lot better

    • @robertplant9694
      @robertplant9694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      cygnustsp yes

    • @MrPbhuh
      @MrPbhuh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Playing D with Bar C shape helps in my opinion. It somehow feels like D sounds better that way, perhaps cause it puts emphasis on string.

  • @alexandero9936
    @alexandero9936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The frets are as strait as me when I hear Paul speaking in his calm, beautiful voice.

  • @ritzmat
    @ritzmat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Oh the clarity of that Strandberg and it's tone is georgeous

    • @rohadtanyad8908
      @rohadtanyad8908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sounded like crap. that telel sounds great.

    • @ritzmat
      @ritzmat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that tele did sound awesome but I lke the strandberg better

    • @Chaosdude341
      @Chaosdude341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strandbergs are works of art.

  • @progpogs
    @progpogs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    "Hey bro can you level these frets?" and watch your luthier scream.

    • @midi510
      @midi510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Level them, no problem. Re-crowning them is another story.

    • @Runoratsu
      @Runoratsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I just watched this and that was my first thought as well. You‘ll pay through the nose for every adjustment of your frets. If you even find someone willing to work on it.

    • @CDI647
      @CDI647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If anything just make sure they're stainless steel and you're set

    • @Geeds69
      @Geeds69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steve recrowing them?

    • @Geeds69
      @Geeds69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steve mmmk

  • @mikepawlikguitar
    @mikepawlikguitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your luthier just absolutely loves it when you bring him Paul's guitar for a refret

  • @RocktCityTim
    @RocktCityTim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    The True Temperament sounds more like a harp with less dissonance. I wish that you had run some distorted tones.

    • @bloodfromastone
      @bloodfromastone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking this too. I feel that pushing that much square wave air but without the dissonance in-between would be an exotic feeling only felt by a minuscule percentage of humans.

    • @bloodfromastone
      @bloodfromastone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/c5E4YFegqQs/w-d-xo.html

  • @gangofgreenhorns2672
    @gangofgreenhorns2672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Really like the sound of that true temperament guitar. Watched with my studio monitors, could feel/hear the pulsing you guys were talking about.

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @S H Lol

    • @highanglelarry
      @highanglelarry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really like the sound of that true temperament guitar. Watched with my ears, could feel/hear the pulsing you guys were talking about.

    • @gangofgreenhorns2672
      @gangofgreenhorns2672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @S H Cool, I know they said they were unsure about how well the sound would translate to a phone speaker.

  • @johnorourke8116
    @johnorourke8116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    OKAY so after hearing the spaghetti guitar I can never listen to a normal guitar again without hearing the imperfections and I can't breathe

  • @Vlokens
    @Vlokens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is the most beautiful guitar sound I ever heard, its perfect tune is something that I always missed in regular guitars

  • @paulgroben5337
    @paulgroben5337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The true "temperment" sound is gorgeous! Can you imagine how much this would add in Nashville Tuning playing rhythm?

    • @alexeypolevoybass
      @alexeypolevoybass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, these fuckers will cry about “perfection taking soul away from guitar”. However, I want one just as bad as I want a True Temperament bass, since I am a seasoned bass player learning guitar for composition needs.

    • @lukasvandewiel860
      @lukasvandewiel860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the frets are adapted to string tension, it might not even work in Nashville tuning.

  • @BobStCyr
    @BobStCyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a guitar thing, violin family, wind players, all play in tune! The piano which we know is tuned slightly off (tempered tuning) , is closer to the ‘squiggly” finger board. It affects how the chord tones blend but also how sympathetic vibrations are set up within the instrument - which is why it sounds clearer and fuller. Very cool demo

  • @pacovl46
    @pacovl46 5 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Headless guitars - I just can’t get used to the way they look and probably never will!

    • @Hoopty91
      @Hoopty91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Although I appreciate it as an instrument, I think they're ugly.😓

    • @AchillesWrath1
      @AchillesWrath1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same

    • @PhobosDDeimos
      @PhobosDDeimos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yup, nice concept but unbearably ugly.

    • @pacovl46
      @pacovl46 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      PhobosDDeimos yeah!

    • @Nofishnoclue
      @Nofishnoclue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Unbearably much better looking in every way

  • @roni6135
    @roni6135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Watching Adam play guitar is the best thing I’ve seen in a while

  • @jameshughes455
    @jameshughes455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I LOVE the sound of that guitar!! AMAZING!!!

  • @hiems5647
    @hiems5647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    None of the notes kind of interfear with each other, so it sounds REALLY REALLY crisp and smooth.

  • @doim1676
    @doim1676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I need that guitar! That sound is so pleasing to me xD not weird at all just soo good!

  • @RudolfWolph
    @RudolfWolph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked the sound of the two guitars being played together more than anything. Perfect 12TET plus something sliiiightly out just sounds great.

  • @rasputinsbeard3899
    @rasputinsbeard3899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    You should have played the intro to Scar Tissue that you'd previously done a video on, just to see how it would sound.

    • @ClikcerProductions
      @ClikcerProductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still wouldn't sound right, this is still in Equal temperament so the major 3rd will always be quite sharp, he tunes the string down to make it the harmonic major 3rd instead

    • @rasputinsbeard3899
      @rasputinsbeard3899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ahh...I see. Just a better approximation of a slightly flawed system.

  • @therestorationofdrwho1865
    @therestorationofdrwho1865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    This guitar cures my OCD when I play a guitar. I want this so bad.

    • @jonw3462
      @jonw3462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      evertune bridge is great for that

    • @therestorationofdrwho1865
      @therestorationofdrwho1865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      jon w I wish these were more common.

    • @jonw3462
      @jonw3462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@therestorationofdrwho1865
      evertune website has quite a few preinstalled, ibanez, prs, fender.
      vgs do some under 500 and Olas signatures have them installed.
      slowly theyre becoming more popular and cheap.

    • @TahaNasser
      @TahaNasser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jonw3462 evertune is about tuning stability, not intonation. They are two completely different issues. Evertune is awesome tho, but it doesn't address the same problem that TT does.

    • @jonw3462
      @jonw3462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TahaNasser
      I know
      It helps alot though even with intonation, especially with a compensated nut added in.
      More so ocd and being picky as true temprement is more noticeable with open chords or people that have perfect pitch.

  • @rphuntarchive1
    @rphuntarchive1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Guitars are theoretically set up for "equal temperament" pitches. For each note, the next half step up should be 1.059 times that pitch (or 2^(1/12). Many fretted and keyboard instruments are set up like this. This is different from "just intonation", which is based on whole number ratios. E.g. a perfect 5th up from A=440 in just intonation would be 440 * 3/2, or 660. In equal temperament, a perfect 5th is 440 * (2^(7/12)) or 659.3. So there is always a slight "error". But equal temperament is what lets us play in different keys, b/c in just intonation the right notes for one key might be wrong for another.
    Fret positions on a guitar involve even bigger compromises, because the correct position of a 2nd fret for the 3rd string is not necessarily the same as for the 2nd fret of the 1st string, so fret placement is a "good enough" affair. With True Temperament the 2nd fret on the 3rd string is the right equal temperament pitch, and the 2nd fret on the first string is right too. This then also fixes problems with unisons and octaves between strings, so things sound smoother all along the fret board.
    So "True Temperament" isn't meant to change guitars over to "Just Intonation" but to fix errors in their "Equal Temperament" pitches.
    What stuns me is that there are people who prefer having their guitar out of tune because that's what they're used to. This is where habit and tradition become bad things.

    • @andysee238
      @andysee238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      People have instrument out of tune to sound different and make different music. Personal vs purist.

    • @po9710
      @po9710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andysee238 personal versus personal. Some people like beating in certain contexts, some people do not. Personally, I like the sound of the True Temperament as many chords sound slightly out of tune to me on the non-compensated guitars. When I record music it irritates me to hear the subtle beating when I just want all the notes to be in 12-TET anyways. To each their own, but I wouldn't put it down as "purist"

    • @acyanic4239
      @acyanic4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@po9710 I am with you on personal taste. The purist part refers to Reg being stunned at people's preference for out of tune, and it being a 'bad thing'. Bad things can turn into the next good thing. Although, preference for out of tune could just be laziness, ignorance or incompetence - but it still makes music.

    • @po9710
      @po9710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@acyanic4239 I dig your perspective! I don't mind the beating that much when I play - as I don't have a TT neck on any guitar, but when I record the tuning sounds obvious. I think unaccompanied guitar sounds great even with straight frets, but when accompanied by other instruments TT does a great job at making things blend more coherently. And with jazz chords with higher numeric ratios I think TT would make thirds ring out more clearly

  • @datashat
    @datashat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    The G string always sounds wrong no matter what on a normal guitar to me, it's so frustrating

    • @aaronlevy5674
      @aaronlevy5674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @RDE Lutherie Where exactly do the coins go? And do you use fourteen pennies, 2 nickels and 4 pennies, or a dime and 4 pennies? Lastly, if doing this in England, since 10 pence currently equal 14.3 US cents, do you make the conversion and use a 10 pence coin, or actually use fourteen pence? None of this really makes sense because if you flatten out a string, it won't be playable any more, but you're the expert. Thanks Luther! (Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha?)

    • @aaronlevy5674
      @aaronlevy5674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man, you nailed that one! Kudos. I wouldn’t wear a g-string (especially a high gauge one) because one wrong move and I could cut off my meat and two veg. Thanks for a true LOL!

    • @nylophone5730
      @nylophone5730 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! Why is that?

    • @erin79
      @erin79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've felt this way my whole life and when I was young I was like, "why is EVERY guitar I've ever owned defective at the G string?!"
      Now, I tune my G a touch sharp. For some reason that helps. Maybe I can just bear light sharpness more than slight flatness.

    • @TheElrondo
      @TheElrondo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try a wound G string and suddenly it sounds right...i promise.

  • @MatthyLuda
    @MatthyLuda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This guitar looks like the fast forward on VHS.

  • @noenduringcity
    @noenduringcity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very cool. I've been misunderstanding how true temperament frets work this whole time. I thought it was a different intonation system. I didn't realize the purpose is to correctly implement equal temperament on a guitar. That makes this much more practical for use with things like pianos and synths that are in equal temperament! My bank account is not happy about this information.

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it still does have to do with intonation though

  • @grimeybeast1465
    @grimeybeast1465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    True Tempermant: The guitar you didn't know you needed, until you knew for certain that you didn't need it.

  • @SpaceDisco1
    @SpaceDisco1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I listened to a lot of turkish music recently and honestly, both of them sound very good to me.
    Slightly different sure. But not weird at all.

    • @rainofficial1924
      @rainofficial1924 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a lot of Turkish rock bands, Pop music producers rap gods:) Most of them sound great. But yeah it is a bit weird after listening western bands especially who write music in English language and vibes of old western music. I found why is most on the effect of language. In Turkish words there are a lot of use more different voices than English. Such as "ö" a word most of people in earth can't pronounce. When you take hotel california, write Turkish lyrics (not meaningless and doesn't sound divided from beats) transaction between words never matches with song, meaningless space between original chord changes (caused by sound difference, in many Turkish song there are more notes between full notes and sharp notes. Micro tonal ones which I don't know if it is 100% true but those notes can only be noted by Eastern races better.) puts you in a need of different chords to match Turkish words connection while pronouncing. And this adds this weird special vibe for Turkish songs. I dont hate it. Like some but yeah it is weird.

    • @SelfPropelledDestiny
      @SelfPropelledDestiny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turkish music is great, but what does it have to do with this video? Was it mentioned? True temperament tuning is not the same as the 15-note system used in Makam and other Middle Eastern music. Are you confusing semitones with perfectly spaced tones?

    • @Rudromukherjeenerv
      @Rudromukherjeenerv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SelfPropelledDestiny I think it's because these frets are reminiscent of a microtonal instrument

  • @carleyfontenot2238
    @carleyfontenot2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you can SEE their minds exploding behind their eyes lmao I love this. pure wonder and awe

  • @connorbrozny1402
    @connorbrozny1402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    the weird fret guitar looks like a tortilla

  • @lauraene3458
    @lauraene3458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    imperfect instrument with an imperfect tuning😁 cool👍

  • @mouthfulacoque3580
    @mouthfulacoque3580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    intonation makes perfect sense to me. I love the way the micro-tonal fretwork sounds. it all oscillates in a beautiful way. I started off not using a tuner and now after owning many, I only tune by ear so long as i'm the only guitarist. A musically accurate fretboard sounds so appealing to me personally.

  • @the_doomcliff
    @the_doomcliff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Frankly speaking - the "weird" guitar sounds more pleasant to my ears, more like an actual guitar should sound. This difference between a "normal" and a "spaghetti" guitar is probably the reason why some top guitarists do not perfectly tune their instruments. Is it? 🤔

    • @kristophergamble8510
      @kristophergamble8510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Мар'ян Носович I definitely agree with you! When playing any guitar they just always sound out of tune.

    • @cruxtymusic
      @cruxtymusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah as soon as Paul hit that Bar G, compared to Adam's I totally got it

    • @the_doomcliff
      @the_doomcliff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@cruxtymusic exactly. Paul's notes don't conflict with each other, creating the consonant sound I'd be glad to hear each time I play the guitar.

    • @roymakesmusic
      @roymakesmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Each string has a few quirks that make it so that even if all six open strings are perfectly in tune, they are going to be ever-so-slightly off when the frets are pressed. Easy example of this is if you go to drop D, and hit the sixth string, it'll detune flat for a bit. So you might pitch that string like 10 cents higher so it averages out to being okay.

    • @deliusmyth5063
      @deliusmyth5063 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look up James Taylor on how to tune a guitar. His tunings are all over the place.

  • @squatch545
    @squatch545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you hear them played together (same chord) you can hear the sound waves reverberating slightly differently.

  • @jdavis.fw303
    @jdavis.fw303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its awesome when you play the same chords, it makes this natural chorus effect...sounds amazing!!!!

  • @markconrad9619
    @markconrad9619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's like a vivid dream...it's sounds real but removed from "reality"

  • @ErebosGR
    @ErebosGR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think, Steve Vai was the first supporter of True Temperament frets decades ago, and nowadays lots of bands record using guitars with TT frets, even though live they use regular frets.
    Same thing with Evertune bridges.

    • @zingyearth
      @zingyearth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seeing vais guitar with TT got me intrested in it. Thought of getting the old squire strat I have fitted with a TT neck but never got around to it

    • @klaus_lightroast
      @klaus_lightroast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      decades ago? TT isn´t so old ...

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klaus_lightroast I think Vai was sent a prototype in the late '90s, way before they became available to the public.

  • @carrotjuice1225
    @carrotjuice1225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how when they both play at the same time it sounds like a chorus.

    • @svenjansen2134
      @svenjansen2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because that is the chorus effect. It doubles and modulates.

  • @wolllf1z
    @wolllf1z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing always wanted to see this happen loving the collab

  • @johnredberg
    @johnredberg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That guitar is freaking awesome. Beautiful timbre, great look, unique personality. So to answer your question: Yes, you should buy that Tele!

  • @color33d
    @color33d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG , its so much better , wow . So round , soft like butter . I am so happy to hear this . Thank you . I thought i got all guitars i need . Ok . i only need them refretted .

  • @snowandlightsmusic
    @snowandlightsmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think your "i guitar" comment is perfect, it sounds so clean, and so perfect, and so polished that it DOES sound almost artificially produced.
    It would suit metalcore so well because that sound is polished to an atoms worth of detail
    edit update: 08:18 lol...you mentioned metal

  • @GrooveDuude
    @GrooveDuude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mattias Eklungh has been using true temperament necks for a while. His insane harmonics require perfect intonation.

  • @daytonrd17
    @daytonrd17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That things sounds so buttery smooth it’s mind blowing

  • @locrianico6843
    @locrianico6843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how most of this video is 3 music nerds staring at a fret-board. Adam, Paul, and me!

  • @ken46120
    @ken46120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The squiggly frets sound great. I listen through my amp and Eden

  • @beenis08
    @beenis08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how it sounds better than a regular guitar, just a little clearer than normal.

  • @echoes6092
    @echoes6092 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoaaaa this is awesome, I love it
    the tuning differences definitely come across

  • @JeromyBranch
    @JeromyBranch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can see this catching on. And then some day in the future you will see a video with a guitar that has weird straight frets and everybody will comment that the false intonation adds such an interesting and much more valuable overall sound to the accompanying music.
    I will stick with my Les. Paul. Not Bian lol.

  • @seanparish9154
    @seanparish9154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a guitarist and physics lover, it is hilarious hearing other guitarists describe the physics here whilst seemingly not describing or simply not knowing the full explanation behind the beats. None the less epic video for an epic example of a guitar.

  • @twotgfltandahalf
    @twotgfltandahalf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    So, for a non-guitarist, that squiggly one sounds much more clear to me.

    • @peaceman7321
      @peaceman7321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Part of that is paul is using a pick vs thumb.... IDK how much

  • @tristenwilliams1943
    @tristenwilliams1943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I liked the true temperament better immediately. I couldn’t understand why you guys thought it was weird! Sounds much more crisp and pure than the standard guitar

  • @noe9250
    @noe9250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the true temperament sounds amazing, I love it and I want one

  • @masla990
    @masla990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Will buy one for neoclassical metal