Tamiya FF-03 Build Guide Part 1 - Honda Civic Type-R - Incl. the Ball Differential
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- Welcome to the first part of my Tamiya FF-03 Build Guide, where I take you through steps 1 to 5 of the build manual. The major component we will build is the ball differential - it is a bit tricky - make sure you have some glue at the ready if you are going to follow along! I was shocked that some components in the diff needed gluing together! I hope you enjoy it, and follow along the next steps with me on part 2.
When finished this will become the Tamiya FF-03 Honda Civic Type-R.
Good vid. It actually tells you right in front of your hands how to check the diff tension. Tighten the diff just to the point that if you hold both outdrives with a flat edge (small Allen keys work) you shouldn't be able to rotate the diff gear.
Many thanks for the input. Biker Bill! However, I'm pretty sure that's not right - if you made the diff that tight, it wouldn't do it's job, it needs to let one wheel turn more than the other when cornering, and stop one wheel spinning when the other is stopped. If you couldn't turn it with your hands then it would be a locked diff! I may be wrong, just saying! Thanks again and best regards from Mark... :)
@@MarkBryanRC it is right. It's to set the tension (as per instructions, which is pretty much industry Standard for ball diffs). As the picture in the instructions show, you are only stopping the outdrives turning in the opposite direction to each other. Once you take the flat edges out of the outdrives, you'll find that they turn in opposite directions therfore not being locked. I've raced nearly every brand rc car in the last 25 year and every ball diff has been the same method.
Looking forward to seeing the running video.
Thanks very much, Biker Bill - I take my hat off to you and appreciate your wise comments. I will take what you have said on board, it will be easy to adjust the tension and see how it goes! Thanks for sharing, that's why I love this hobby, always something new to learn. Hope the first run looks as good as it should! Cheers, Bill! :)
I wish I could have had this "conversation" with you before I made the video, then I could have passed on this information. I was unclear as to what the diagram meant. Now it is very clear! Makes total sense, said the blind man! Thanks for not being to harsh on me, we live and learn, even at my old age! :)
@@MarkBryanRC no problem. I hope I didn't sound harsh. I made that very mistake with my first ball diff.
I think the Tamiya gear diff department is where all the Japanese mad geniuses go to work!
Hehe - yeah mate, they must have a secret lab where they get together and com up with mad ideas like having to glue the diff plates to the out-drives! :P Hope you are well, Alan, thanks as always for the comment! :)
Mate, I'm intrigued!! I think I'm going to sell another Locomotive and buy one. 😳😁
That Gearbox is quite a bit of Kit!! 👍👍 The *Plastic* Outdrives are puzzling... But the rest looks solid. That Ball Diff looks like they nicked it straight from the Avante! That's a good thing, because they're strong and also work well as sort of a slipper clutch.
My Avante (IF I can remember back that far) also asked for synthetic Rubber Cement. I used Epoxy with no issues.
I'm not familiar with what you used, but as long as it locks the Rings in place, you should be fine!!
It also acts like a limited-slip Diff.... THAT will be interesting in a Front Wheel drive Vehicle.
Looking forward to seeing what you find NEXT in this most interesting Kit!!
Cheers 🍻🍻 Mate!
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Hey! Just sent an email, and trying to send the second now....
Hi Dude - I'm listening to your songs from the email as I type - WICKED!!!
Yeah, the diff actually feels good, nice and tight! I know how this should translate into the driving experience, looking forward to it! Didn't know the old Avante used the same setup. But don't think about selling a loco until I've tested this one!
Awesome vocals on Bat out of Hell - foot tapping as I type!
All the best matey! :)
Got it mate! Both of 'em! :P
Thanks Bro!! It means a lot.
I'll wait to see how yours turns out.... Sometimes a sales flop doesn't always mean it's bad. I'm pulling for this little guy! 😉
Nice build part#1 Mark crazy you have to glue the plates on I use magnetic shop trays for my parts very informative build thanks for sharing my good friend hope you have a great day 😁😎👍🏻
Hi Brent - thanks for the kind comment my friend. Yeah, wasn't expecting to have to put glue in the diffs! I also use a magnetic tray sometimes, but the ball bearings stuck to the tray TOO well! All good here Brent, hope all is well with you. :))
cool video, such would be more!!!I like it!!!!👍🤘😉😉
Thank you very much! :)
Love Tamiya! Synthetic rubber cement = O2 oxygen sensor safe gasket sealer!! 😆 Available at your local auto parts store!
Thanks Jason! Good info there my friend, I suppose the gasket sealer remains a little flexible and will do a good job! Best regards from Mark... :)
Hi Mark! Happy building. Fiddly business, those ball diffs. But you did it like a champ. Weird with that cementing? 😳 Wish Tamiya would stop all that glue-business. But great glue you got there ! ... and I hope that metal counter gear won’t cause any trouble. But finished product, especially with that motor plate looks like a piece of art 😍
Goddag, Mikael! Thanks mate - yeah, very fiddly but great fun too. Yeah, I was a bit surprised with having to glue the diff plates - never seen that before and a bit of a pain - hopefully my tyre glue will hold out and not come apart! Shouldn't have to glue stuff like this on a premium kit! The metal counter gear should be good, at least it is steel and not aluminium. Thanks for the great comment. As always, very best regards from Mark... :)
Mark Bryan RC Your Danish is coming along ☺️ Yeah, I like assembling the ball diffs too. Yeah. It seems Tamiya can get away with everything. Watched some CC-02 builds too. Loads of glue too. If HBX or WLToys did that, everybody would call them junk. But Tamiya gets away with it 😅 Uhh, steel. Missed out on that. It looked like the DF-01 or DF-03 metal, and those soft ones just make a mess and wear down the plastic gears. The very best to you, Mark. Looking forward for the next part. Hopefully no more glue ☺️ And if the glue holds on, you will forget about it when running it.
Haha - if only my Danish was as good as your English! You are right about Tamiya getting away with it. And it's clear that HBX and WLToys are not junk! Yeah, those aluminium gears are indeed junk, another Tamiya no-no! The build is going well my friend, I really like this kit, it does seem to be (overall) much better quality than the basic Tamiyas. Cheers mate! :)
Mark Bryan RC Yeah, much much better! Definitely not a standard Tamiya kit. Looking so much forward following the build.
Nice building Mark, this one has some weird stuff to it..plastic ball diff and that rubber O ring to hold the pin in..is it silicone or plain rubber Hope t's silicone a plain rubber one may deteriorate after a while .
Thanks buddy! Yeah, some weird shit! Plastic outdrives sure surprised me, and yes, hope the o ring is silicone else we are in for some trouble later on! Fingers crossed my friend! :)
Super build start my friend! Does the FF03 share the transmission thingy with the XV-01? Looks pretty awesome. I will get the new M05-RA Renault 5 Maxi tomorrow. I'll try to do a build video with a RWD conversion :) Have a great week my friend 👌
Hi Charlie! Thanks dude! No, the diff and diff case are different to the XV-01, but the motor mounts are exactly the same. It's a very enjoyable build so far. Ohhh - the new Renault 5 - I wanted one of those but not available in the Uk for a few more weeks - I hope to get one by Easter! Lucky you, I look forward to seeing that on your channel mate! It will be good to see you do another build. Enjoy your week too my good friend! :)
Fantastic Mark & so glad I went for the oil filled gear diff for mine, only made 4 ball diffs so far for my bro's Top Force & my TA02SW Jaiger Porsche 934 and they look easier than this one! Can't wait to start mine, delivery due from Time Tunnel 2mrw... :-)
Oh yeah Ben! I think you did the right thing there my friend - such a fiddle with the ball diff, but hopefully I got it somewhere near right. At least it is quite easy to adjust by turning that hex drive in the outdrive cup, so I can rectify any mistakes. Your fun starts tomorrow then. Looking forward to seeing your efforts, best of luck with it mate! :))
Another great build video Mark
That gearbox is the same as the XV-01 so you can probably use gears from either XV-01 or TA-06
Thanks for that. Are! Yeah, I noticed the similarities with the XV-01, not had any experience with the TA-06 but I understand there are some compatible parts! Thanks for the info- always useful my friend! I hope your weekend is going well! :)
Great video! I had the Castrol Civic FF03 and the it was great at first and then the diff started giving me problems. I could sure have used this video years ago. 👍👍
Hi and thanks for the comment! I love that Castrol Honda body! Sorry to hear about the diff problems - did you ever get it sorted out? All the best regards from Mark... :)
I was always under the impression that putting that the me a get together was extremely tenuous but by U actually going through step-by-step and showing me how to actually used the diagram I can't see where I wouldn't be a work to do this with out worrying. So thank you I think I will pull the trigger on my frist kit witch will be the grasshopper.
Thanks for the great comment! Yes, as long as you follow the instructions, it's not too difficult. I wish you much joy with your Grasshopper kit! :)
Looks amazing chassis love these building videos mark 👍👍👍
Cheers my bro! Yeah, this is looking better the more I work on it! All the best my good friend! :)
Mark Bryan RC your welcome mark hope your keeping all good bro
Nice work bud.. Like from me.. :)
Thanks Nick - every like is really appreciated! I see you watched a few more - good on ya bro! :)
Great vid again. Good comments to go along too
Hi bud! Thanks for the kind words, always appreciated! This is one cool build, I really enjoyed it. I hope you and yours are keeping well. :)
Thank you Mark for sharing, it was really interesting. This doesn't seem to be the easiest setup among Tamiya cars. I was surprised to see that you had to glue things together, it was the first time I saw that. As usual, you did very well. On my side, I will soon start building an M05 chassis (Golf Mk1), I first try to upgrade my Mad Fighter that I finally find to be a good wheeler. See you soon Mark and thanks again for the video. Take care 🎌
And Thanks to Biker Bill too for the precious advice !🏁
Hello, Alex - sorry for the late reply! Yeah, this is a little different to most Tamiya builds, a bit trickier but still very enjoyable, it feels like the components are excellent quality. No, I have never had to glue parts on a Tamiya before!!! I wish you an enjoyable time with your M05 and Mad Fighter. Thanks for watching and the great comment, best wishes to you my friend! :)
Yes Alex, I appreciate all the help I can get! :)
Hey man thanks for the video. Mine is slipping bad in straight line. About to take it apart and go through it. What do I need to tighten up more? The nut or when you turn them together with wrench?
Also I'm building a FWD drag car so wondering if you can think of an easy way to lock it possibly?..
Not sure if I compressed the spring enough or what but it slips bad.
No worries, man! You can tighten it with a hex driver (1.5mm or 2mm I think) into the hex head screw that holds the 2 halves together inside one of the drive cups. If you tighten it as much as possible it may completely lock the diff. To be sure, you might want to take it apart and use something like hot glue to lock it.
It is possible that you have worn out the ball bearings. Good luck with it pal! :)
@@MarkBryanRC that's what I was hoping for. To just tighten it up. Appreciate the response! I've only ran it 2 times so hopefully it's still good. Off to disassemble! Take care
@@bjj21 Ah - the bearings will be fine after only 2 runs - have fun with it, take care too!
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Thanks Chris - hope you have a great weekend mate! :)
Super 👍
Thank you very much! :)
THAT I didn't try yet!!! Pushing the Nut in with a Driver. I was pulling down with an Allen Wrench.... getting NOWHERE!! 😠😠😠😠
I'm still using the Gear Diff, that has METAL Drive Cups - but DANGIT!! I want to beat that thing!! 😜😁
Yes, those Plastic Drive Cups really concerned me too.
..... That Counter Gear, that's going to be spinning VERY Fast in mine - that Pin is just held in with a Rubber O-RING!!?? 😲
So far I've been Building this bog standard (a departure for me!!)...
But, I think I'm going to drop just a tiny bit of Thick CA Cement in the Hole, before fitting the Pin. Then I'll fit the O-Ring!! 😜😊
Except for NOT using the Ball Diff with Plastic Drive Cups - I have really been building it according to Manual. I want a feel for the Chassis, BEFORE I start mucking about with it. 😉
AND..... I'm fitting an Axial 66 Tooth, 48P Spur Gear.
For no other reason than 0.6 Mod Gears have always been difficult to get in the U.S. - except for the Tamiya soft Alumininium!! 😲😳
Plus I've already got a selection of 48P Pinion Gears, ranging from 22T to 40T!! I think anything over 32 might be too much. 😧
Back to viewing!! I really appreciate you doing this! Experience is nothing - when you're diving into something new and in some areas, quite foreign. This is also where it pays to have FRIENDS!!! 👊👍👍
Hi mate - have you got the standard diff conquered yet? I hope so my good friend!
The plastic drive cups are stronger than they look! All the best, mate! :))
I've seen a standard FF03 do over 60mph with that "O" ring doing it's job with no issues, Mukka!!! =D
Me Mukka........
I have CONQUERED the Ball Diff!!! 🎉🎉🍺🍺👍
I would still be concerned, but Tamiya does put Engineering into their Cars...
My biggest worry is the High Power Motor with the Hobbywing WP1060 ESC, that has a Drag Brake. There will be a high level of stress on those Plastic Drive Cups whilst Going AND Stopping. High Loads in both directions. I don't believe that Tamiya made any ESCs with Drag Brake.
They don't even have Lipo Cutoff!!
Are you able to find an ESC over there with Drag Brake?? There IS a difference.
[NERD alert!!]
Your standard Reverse/Brake only provides about 8-12% Back EMF.
Whereas a Crawler Drag Brake provides over 75% Back EMF pressure!!
I don't think your Carisma will be particularly heavy...
(Like my SCX10 II Unimog weighs over 8kg!!!)😳
However you still have the momentum of those big Tyres and Alumininium Wheels. Unless you find some very steep Hills, you should be OK. 😉
The issue is, accidentally popping a Crawler in Reverse at any turn of Speed is a real eye opener!!! 😳 It also puts unhealthy stress on the Gearbox.
NOT trying to put a scare in you! Like everything, if you're careful, you'll have nothing to worry about. Just arming you with knowledge! 😊
Still pulling and Praying for Lou!! All our Best my Friend!
.... And I guess like everything else, inspection and Maintenance is key.
Just to make sure the O-Ring isn't getting brittle. 😉
Hello mate. Very interesting build. Amazing how much different it is to the cheap kits. Lots of fiddly little bits which make it interesting to build. I wonder if the diff ends up performing much different to one of the cheap bevel gear ones with aw grease in? I guess that one advantage is that you can adjust the tension to your requirements. Anyway I wonder what other little treats this kit will turn up? What a great project for half term. Hope you are enjoying it. Cheers mate 😀
Hiya Pete. Thanks mate - yeah this is very different to the entry level Tamiyas. I think it's gonna get more fiddly as we go on, especially the front suspension and steering, so many linkages! The ball diff feels completely different to an open gear diff, there is so much more resistance meaning that when one wheel spins, the other will keep turning, giving better drive. And yeah, this can be adjusted. Stating the next part and videoing it today - no rush, I'm off work! Loving the time and freedom matey - hope all is good with you, cheers dude! :)
Great first steps Mark! That’s kind of an odd ball diff even for Tamiya!🤣 Good stuff my friend, looking forward to more!👍😊
Thanks Jeremy! Yeah, I was "amused" that you have to glue the diff plates on! Very strange, never seen one like this before. Cheers for the great comment, best wishes from Mark! :)
Great vid 👍👍
Thank you so much, Fons Walma! Your kind comments mean very much to me, I thank you! :))
Oh BROSKI thats awesome, i've never seen this chassis before but it looks awesome n I want one now lol
Hey my BROSKI!!! Great to read you buddy - really hoping you are doing well my friend. Yeah, this is a really interesting chassis, looking forward to see how she runs. Sending all the best wishes from England! :))
Nice one Mark, good start, seems a bit fiddly the diff but makes these builds more interesting! Seems a good standard bit of kit there with the ball races, ball diff and metal motor mount as standard. Looking forward to part 2! Top vid as always.👍🏻
Thanks, Sean! Yeah, not a bad start really, it was a bit of a faff!. Lots of cool parts to come, including the ball races and the turnbuckles, and those strange suspension pivots, I am intrigued to see hoe it all comes together. Thanks for watching and commenting my friend, always appreciated Sean. All the very best from Mark... :)
Plastic diff :(
Yeah, but then most Tamiya kits include plastic diffs, this one is holding up very well at the moment! :))
@@MarkBryanRC Yes I know, but this is high class kit like XV. Why it have plastic axle hubs. Whyyyyy? :D
@@SenseiTamiya Yeah, I agree, it's Tamiya cutting corners again, I was worried about those plastic outdrives, too. But the XV has plastic diffs with internal plastic sun and planetary gears, OK it has meatal outdrives, but at least the FF has metal ball diff internals. What a mix-up!!! :)