I see intuition working real life issues as much as sensing. We have no choice, because we really can't know for a fact what we assume we know. Do we really know what anybody is thinking and feeling? Do we have any sensible data about our, or anyone else's, motivations? We are filling in the blanks with best guesses all the time.
5:46 😂 interrupted and sent to full infj headspace deadface reset. i am beginning to understand why people ask me if im mad when im thinking. i completely understand what you mean when you say it begins with a feeling. It feels like it condenses upon you from everywhere at once, like fog clouds turning to rain from the sheer weight of the water they hold, the unimaginable (and i would argue largely unconscious) quantity of information absorbed can't help but yield information. At least that's how it is for me. Thanks for all your videos over the years.
Hey Eric, thanks for the contribution, and It seems, "in my opinion" would be an appropriate add-on, at least once anyway. Not to sound contrary, but this is one claim, or declarative statement after another. Its a self-closed argument, which allows zero space for others to participate with their interpretations. Even if you have decent or valid points, its still just one guy's formulation of the ideas, and to not humbly acknowledge such, can be off-putting for the listener. Some may even say cocky, to flatly assert, for example, "if you didnt know what ni was, now you do!" . . . . . In a nutshell, thanks for the presentation of your ideas. Some thought provoking work, I hope you keep wrestling with it. Respectfully, from an infj
But is carl jung not an entp then. I know that this is against the stereotypical entp, but doing full blown research on psychology myself, psychology is a very entp thing, if gazed upon from a rational perspective. As an entp, we observe emotion, and we have ideas about emotion. I don’t know about his other work, but introverted intuition is more narrowing down. Gazing on the entire spectrum of personalities seems very extroverted intuition to me personally, maybe just personal bias here.
@@saraschemmelthere is a fair amount of overlap between the two modes of intuition, but he definitely was more specifically talking about Ni rather than Ne in this video. This is apparent in his references to the subjective interpretations of reality, focus on accessing the unconscious and analyzing abstract concepts, symbols and primordial archetypes, which is a primary component of the winnowing process of Ni that seeks to gain insight via distilling ideas to their core essence. Not that Ne doesn’t also pertain to archetypes and symbols, just not in the same vein as Ni does, because Ne is more concerned with how trends are objectively reflected in the culture and ideas of the time whereas Ni is looking at it from a more eternal perspective of what themes have been consistent across all time. The primary distinction between Ne and Ni is that extroverted intuition is objective and divergent in nature, focused on expanding possibilities, creating ideas, and viewing the vast connections between external components, whereas introverted intuition is subjective and convergent in nature, primarily concerned with foreseeing implications and likely consequences via conjecture, hypotheticals, and imagination. Simply put, it’s the difference of exploring the many things that could be (Ne) vs narrowing down to what most likely will be (Ni).
Most people have a very poor understanding of the differences and similarities between the two intuitive functions and can commonly misidentify one for the other, even though they present in distinctive ways.
Can intraverted intuition be an extrapolation or interpolation of knowledge points that have been mentally nailed down as "truth" or "reality". Or can introverted intuition derive interpolation or extrapolation out of nothing. Is it more probable that introverted intuition occurs in a vacuum of all information and knowledge or is it more likely that it occurs with 'some' information or is it more likely a function of larger quantities of information or data?
i believe it's what happens after we've had a physical experience through the five senses and maybe we weren't conscious of it but it was inverted in our minds and affected our intuitive world and then led to other kinds of thoughts. :)
Horrible explanation, you're saying like Ne people can't overthink symbols. Intuition isn't about depichering symbols per se, it's about imagining, future-oriented.
thanks for your comment. Ofcourse they can, like any type, use any function. But they do it in their own way. The Ne process is more fast-paced and less methodical, more assertive in how it pushes it's own interpretation, and more interactive, in how it asks questions back and forth and experiments, but yes, both deal with open-ended, big-picture, abstract, future-oriented things.
I see intuition working real life issues as much as sensing. We have no choice, because we really can't know for a fact what we assume we know. Do we really know what anybody is thinking and feeling? Do we have any sensible data about our, or anyone else's, motivations? We are filling in the blanks with best guesses all the time.
Very insightful. Thank you sir.
5:46 😂 interrupted and sent to full infj headspace deadface reset. i am beginning to understand why people ask me if im mad when im thinking. i completely understand what you mean when you say it begins with a feeling. It feels like it condenses upon you from everywhere at once, like fog clouds turning to rain from the sheer weight of the water they hold, the unimaginable (and i would argue largely unconscious) quantity of information absorbed can't help but yield information.
At least that's how it is for me. Thanks for all your videos over the years.
Heh see my infj grumpy video on this!!
Hey Eric, thanks for the contribution, and It seems, "in my opinion" would be an appropriate add-on, at least once anyway. Not to sound contrary, but this is one claim, or declarative statement after another.
Its a self-closed argument, which allows zero space for others to participate with their interpretations. Even if you have decent or valid points, its still just one guy's formulation of the ideas, and to not humbly acknowledge such, can be off-putting for the listener. Some may even say cocky, to flatly assert, for example, "if you didnt know what ni was, now you do!"
. . . . . In a nutshell, thanks for the presentation of your ideas. Some thought provoking work, I hope you keep wrestling with it.
Respectfully, from an infj
You put a spell on me
But is carl jung not an entp then. I know that this is against the stereotypical entp, but doing full blown research on psychology myself, psychology is a very entp thing, if gazed upon from a rational perspective. As an entp, we observe emotion, and we have ideas about emotion. I don’t know about his other work, but introverted intuition is more narrowing down. Gazing on the entire spectrum of personalities seems very extroverted intuition to me personally, maybe just personal bias here.
Carl Jung was an INTP. And yes, he is mostly describing Ne not Ni in this video.
@@saraschemmelthere is a fair amount of overlap between the two modes of intuition, but he definitely was more specifically talking about Ni rather than Ne in this video. This is apparent in his references to the subjective interpretations of reality, focus on accessing the unconscious and analyzing abstract concepts, symbols and primordial archetypes, which is a primary component of the winnowing process of Ni that seeks to gain insight via distilling ideas to their core essence. Not that Ne doesn’t also pertain to archetypes and symbols, just not in the same vein as Ni does, because Ne is more concerned with how trends are objectively reflected in the culture and ideas of the time whereas Ni is looking at it from a more eternal perspective of what themes have been consistent across all time.
The primary distinction between Ne and Ni is that extroverted intuition is objective and divergent in nature, focused on expanding possibilities, creating ideas, and viewing the vast connections between external components, whereas introverted intuition is subjective and convergent in nature, primarily concerned with foreseeing implications and likely consequences via conjecture, hypotheticals, and imagination. Simply put, it’s the difference of exploring the many things that could be (Ne) vs narrowing down to what most likely will be (Ni).
Most of what you are describing is Ne not Ni.
Most people have a very poor understanding of the differences and similarities between the two intuitive functions and can commonly misidentify one for the other, even though they present in distinctive ways.
If Ne is deduction Ni is induction.
You have those backwards. Extraverted is expansive. Introverted is narrowing.
Can intraverted intuition be an extrapolation or interpolation of knowledge points that have been mentally nailed down as "truth" or "reality". Or can introverted intuition derive interpolation or extrapolation out of nothing. Is it more probable that introverted intuition occurs in a vacuum of all information and knowledge or is it more likely that it occurs with 'some' information or is it more likely a function of larger quantities of information or data?
i believe it's what happens after we've had a physical experience through the five senses and maybe we weren't conscious of it but it was inverted in our minds and affected our intuitive world and then led to other kinds of thoughts. :)
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Horrible explanation, you're saying like Ne people can't overthink symbols.
Intuition isn't about depichering symbols per se, it's about imagining, future-oriented.
thanks for your comment. Ofcourse they can, like any type, use any function. But they do it in their own way. The Ne process is more fast-paced and less methodical, more assertive in how it pushes it's own interpretation, and more interactive, in how it asks questions back and forth and experiments, but yes, both deal with open-ended, big-picture, abstract, future-oriented things.