I'm an electrical engineer, and did electromechanical design for a few years. While I'm a HUGE follower of Dr. Fuhrman and the Nutritarian lifestyle that I'm beyond grateful for...the prices for Power Plat products are ridiculous (no reflection on Dr. Fuhrman, to my knowledge he is not a principal in Power Plate). The profit margin on these machines must rival fragrance industry margins lol. In my opinion (suspicion), they're priced so far above the cost as to be prohibitive and a bit silly. They may work, but the markup (price-points) just don't make sense to me. My 2 cents.
Do you think Furhman isn't getting a cut on these? He probably gets a third for his "endorsement". But you're right, there are far cheaper versions, highly-rated too, on Amazon and elsewhere...
@@DDumbrille as an advertising executive and owners of an advertising agency for over 25 years, this is not getting 33%. The company would go bankrupt. Fitness tools like this are low volume. They are big and commend a huge distribution warehouse, computer chips, code, with stand the abuse of the user and vibration of the machine and perform consistently. Lots of R&D go into this and millions in investment without an initial return. Now you need to market it and get the world to know your product exists. You need a brand, testimonials and an endorsement. Endorsement deals work in a verity of ways, but deals typically go down like this… High profile: Lebron James with millions of followers. People who don’t play or even like basketball know who he is could possibly command 30%, but the product has to have volume and be a great product. He would not endorse something without damaging his personal brand if it didn’t work, like Michael Jordan. This doctor is not high profile enough unless this doctor put in his own money. Shark Tank might ask for 33% if they believed in it and the sales volume made sense. This is a niche product. It not mainstream. It’s going to be expensive unless they are selling millions of units YOY. keep in mind, this machine needs to be crated and drop shipped. That is expensive. Computer chips are artificially high right now because of the shortage. It’s not fair to say that this company is making bank, when they could possibly be going bankrupt. Sales, marketing, social, videos, executive teams office space, warehouse space, packaging design and kiting the product for shipping, warehouse managers, product managers, accounting, CEO, COO, CMO… Engineering a toothbrush and selling it for $100 to $150 and it costs less than $15 to make isn’t fair either. The marketing machine to create the demand can make up 80% of the cost. So stop. Unless you have brought a product to market, just stop with saying something is over priced. The price is the price for their certain volume they are producing to stay in business. Peloton doesn’t make that much money on their bikes, it’s the damn subscription for their content where they make money from, not the hardware.
I have a Power Plate and find it extremely beneficial. Found out about it at my ballet studio - increases flexibility and strength. So many benefits and many, many exercises can be done with it. Am 69 and still doing grande jetes, thanks to the Power Plate. Note: I have had this for almost two years and use it perhaps three times a week for 9 - 18 minutes each time.
I am interested in this technology. Power plate is WAY above my budget. I found a different brand much more in my budget. It had really good reviews, so I ordered it. I am looking forward to trying it out.
Thank You for this sharing. You are MUCH appreciated. I needed to know if i could use it post bone surgery. Yes!! I'm a8 months out , and Now have a low impact tool to alleviate all of the symptoms.
What about studies done by NASA and professor, *Clinton Rubin,* for maintaining bone, that show that these machines should be low intensity (less than 1g force) and high frequency (30Hz)? The Power Plate is high intensity. I think it’s about 8g at its lowest setting? For context, earth 🌎 has a g force of 1. When we walk, the impact to our heel is about 1.2 or so. Professor Rubin feels these higher intensity devices could cause harm to the body. BTW, 🔍 online for whole body vibration and the word frequency if you’re looking for an affordable unit that offers 30Hz and less than 1g of force and doesn’t cost 3K (it’s currently 400).
You can improve balance by doing specific exercises that do not have to be performed on Power Plate. You can improve bone density by doing targeted resistance or weight bearing exercises that do not have to be completed using vibration equipment. Of course you can break your hip if you fall forward or fall backwards, so I don’t understand his comment on that. Making claims that people have improved Dexa scan results does not “prove” it is the Power Plate that is making those improvements. Whole Body Vibration has not been shown in research to improve bone density especially in the spine because a “knees bent” stance is required. Whole Body Vibration can also lead to problems if the hertz cycle or amplitude are too strong, creating gravitational force above 2g. Scientific work carried out by Dr Clifton Rubin through his research with NASA has pinpointed the “sweet spot” requirements for use of vibration to increase bone density. If Power Plate uses the calibrations determined by Dr Rubin’s research, then it might have value, but you don’t have to exercise on the machine if that’s the case.
@@damirzlatkic8134 He looks fantastic, and is aging great, but she’s right-he’s not getting younger. None of us are! And that’s okay! It’s okay to age (and to look older too) so long as you stay healthy. :)
You can go to the doctor foreman.com he hasn't listed on his website and they are running a 20% off promotion. The price is going up because of covid shortages making it more expensive to manufacture
Dr. Fuhrman, is it possible that WBV could cause a vibration feeling in my brain. Did l over do it. Do you do more than 10 minutes at a time? Lately l have been waking at night and l feel like my brain is vibrating. More is not better.
The same way he can't give interventional studies showing meat cause disease. Check the interview he did with Dr Paul Saladino and see how facts destroys veganism with himself admitting the plenty nutritional deficiencies from not eating meat
@@stefansmith920 I watched a DVD series of his about 10 years ago where he presented study after study backing his claims. He does admit b12 deficiency but only because we sterilize our plants. The animals that eat plants don't eat them in a sterile environment. Do you know where b12 comes from? Where do the animals we eat get their protein, vitamins and nutrients? From plants. We mainly eat vegetarian animals. Their flesh contains the nutrients they ate from the plants. It doesn't just show up there out of nowhere. Dr. Furhman admits you can find studies that are skewed to your own opinion but to me some things are common sense. From your comment seems to me that your bent on finding fault with veganism. I wonder why you would do that. Guilt? I don't know. Best of health to you.
@@Becky-ol4tm Do you have 4 stomachs like cows. If you do your point is valid. If not maybe YOU are the one looking for things to advance your stupidity to think that animals is bad for us. How can animals be bad for us that we ate for so long? Buy then give processed rubbish and day its healthy? Eat your stuff. Don't eat animals and let's see
Stefan, I have lost 115 lbs following Dr. Fuhrman’s nutritional advice based on peer reviewed randomized controlled studies and n=multiple thousands of people studied longitudinally. Read his books! Look up the studies yourself. Yes, of course vegans need to have vitamin B12 supplementation. Where did you hear that Dr. Fuhrman had not recommended this. B12 is necessary for healthy neurology and he explains this clearly along with recommendation of omega 3 (algae based). I do believe you are misrepresenting Dr. Fuhrman’s work which had helped so many people like me regain our health and likely extend our lives.
Aswith any excersize machinery,it is per individual. If you have those kind of concerns I would definitely consult an orthopedist and physical therapist before I used one. I have a lot of these things and I used one but I've had all that kind of advice
I have a 260 Vivo Wellness vibration plate, oscillating type. I'm wondering if you remember that brand? I can't find any information on it. I don't know what the frequency is on it or G-Force. I'm wondering if it is also effective for bones and cartilage or if it needs a higher frequency to be effective? I heard a doctor talk about a machine needing to be around 30 frequency and I'm not sure if oscillating ones go up that high but he also said it should be low G-Force and I'm not sure how low I would need to turn mine to be the right G-Force or frequency? I'm thinking if you turn it low it might not be a High enough frequency but if you have it high it might be too much g-force, which he thinks can be damaging, I'm not sure. I just want to know if I can still get results? And how high to turn it up?
If you can sort any physical therapist they'll tell you that you can get improvement from any vibration plate you just have to approach it slowly and work up to your capacity. This is just putting more stress on your bones and you'll produce more osteoblasts more about needless to say puts a little strain on your muscles and it turns your muscles
Most people need his advice and highly valuate but if you don't need device I need to do is go on TH-cam and look for workouts for vibration plates. There's lots and lots of them
I am feeling embarrassed for dr fuhrman in regard to this recommendation. I love his nutrition plan and I think his advice regarding eating is perfect for about anyone. But these insane prices for these vibrating platforms are outrageous. I bought a freestanding, random orbit vibrating plate about 3 years ago. It does what it says it will do, it is used daily by myself and my wife and we picked it up from Amazon for a little over $100, actually $114 I think. If I'd wanted a larger one with handrails it was around $300 at that time. When people like Dr Fuhrman start putting their names on vastly over-priced merchandize, it's hard to swallow and it causes us to question the level of truth we're getting from people in whom we've put our trust. Please withdrawn from appears to be an obscene money grab Dr Fhurman
Is it safe to use after recover from hip replacement ? Also I heard it’s not ok to use if you have active cancer tumors ? I have metastatic breast cancer (tumors in lungs, liver and brain) I would like to use the Power plate but no one seems to know if it’s save with cancer tumors. Please help. I respect your knowledge and follow your nutritarian diet.
The right diet inclusive 5 veggies Chinese soup and highly absorbable forms of turmeric are what would be needed along with a specific diet and fasting.
@@Angelika, sorry to hear that. :( I would check out WBV research by Clinton Rubin. I think he’s probably done more research than anyone. Perhaps a low vibration (
I myself would never have done this right after my hip replacement. I would wait till I had a physical therapist that I really trusted. But as far as the oncology question I would ask a lot of people that would because there are many situations in which you can spread cells. I am the specialist if any kind on this but I was a patient would ask a lot of people
I looket it up on your HomePage its very expensive but I Think it sounds great - but since its so expensive I just work from the basic idea - “ keep moving” you might get a lot of effective strength and flexibility from a mixture of everyday walking, Soft knee bending and stretching, and a basic joyfull freestylerap dancing and eventually mixture of basic qi gong and yoge or just basic stretching and strengthening - its all about moving with joy and playfullness walking and dancing outside in Nature 😄🍀💚
No disrespect to anyone here, but whole body vibration at higher g forces and intensity is not helpful for low bone denisty and can really be harmful. Please check out Melioguide and the actual clinical trials (2020) for the Marodyne low intensity platform that is safe.
Yes, I advise all to check their site and do some reading on this subject. They say to use a low vibrational g force of less than 1 and a high frequency of 30Hz. Their unit is 3K. There’s a low vibrational high frequency unit on Ama.. that is 400. Just FYI. :)
Improvement year over year with DEXA scans simply comes from all of the diet and exercise changes they are making. So it seems like you’re just trying to sell something here.
In my 70s as are most of my friends and it's really not far to fall or are you likely to fall. As you put your foot on it you realize that you must be very balanced to put the other one on. It warns you but good
I adore Dr. Fuhrman and everything is about but I got one for about 80 bucks on TV and it was great it is great. I love it and I believe it does the same thing or all we need.
Eat a healthy plant based diet and exercise regularly. Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly. Obesity is all too common today. Get off the couch. Ride to work, ride to school, ride for fun. Every city should be a bicycle city. Speak up for bicycles in your community.
Forget bikes. Learn to run. If you cannot run I consider you to be terribly sick and disabled. Walk until you can run. Use a running coach to work out proper form. Learning to run is something every adult should take seriously as if they are coming out of a car accident and spending years on physical rehab.
@@agnidas5816 We need all kinds of transportation options. Walking, ebiking, escooters, electric buses, electric trams all can be part of the public transportation options for a healthy city.
I'm an electrical engineer, and did electromechanical design for a few years. While I'm a HUGE follower of Dr. Fuhrman and the Nutritarian lifestyle that I'm beyond grateful for...the prices for Power Plat products are ridiculous (no reflection on Dr. Fuhrman, to my knowledge he is not a principal in Power Plate). The profit margin on these machines must rival fragrance industry margins lol. In my opinion (suspicion), they're priced so far above the cost as to be prohibitive and a bit silly. They may work, but the markup (price-points) just don't make sense to me. My 2 cents.
I have a Bellicon rebounder. It is my favorite piece of equipment. I agree with you.
I use the HSN Tony Little Body Express Vibration Platform $279. I love it and definitely more in my price range.
Agree u said it very well. I wanted to say I had same feeling.
Do you think Furhman isn't getting a cut on these? He probably gets a third for his "endorsement". But you're right, there are far cheaper versions, highly-rated too, on Amazon and elsewhere...
@@DDumbrille as an advertising executive and owners of an advertising agency for over 25 years, this is not getting 33%. The company would go bankrupt.
Fitness tools like this are low volume. They are big and commend a huge distribution warehouse, computer chips, code, with stand the abuse of the user and vibration of the machine and perform consistently. Lots of R&D go into this and millions in investment without an initial return. Now you need to market it and get the world to know your product exists. You need a brand, testimonials and an endorsement. Endorsement deals work in a verity of ways, but deals typically go down like this…
High profile: Lebron James with millions of followers. People who don’t play or even like basketball know who he is could possibly command 30%, but the product has to have volume and be a great product. He would not endorse something without damaging his personal brand if it didn’t work, like Michael Jordan.
This doctor is not high profile enough unless this doctor put in his own money. Shark Tank might ask for 33% if they believed in it and the sales volume made sense. This is a niche product. It not mainstream. It’s going to be expensive unless they are selling millions of units YOY. keep in mind, this machine needs to be crated and drop shipped. That is expensive. Computer chips are artificially high right now because of the shortage. It’s not fair to say that this company is making bank, when they could possibly be going bankrupt. Sales, marketing, social, videos, executive teams office space, warehouse space, packaging design and kiting the product for shipping, warehouse managers, product managers, accounting, CEO, COO, CMO…
Engineering a toothbrush and selling it for $100 to $150 and it costs less than $15 to make isn’t fair either. The marketing machine to create the demand can make up 80% of the cost.
So stop. Unless you have brought a product to market, just stop with saying something is over priced. The price is the price for their certain volume they are producing to stay in business.
Peloton doesn’t make that much money on their bikes, it’s the damn subscription for their content where they make money from, not the hardware.
Health and wellness is priceless - I first used Powerplate Years Years ago and I fell InLoVe with it - Thank You for your Wisdom and helping US
I have a Power Plate and find it extremely beneficial. Found out about it at my ballet studio - increases flexibility and strength. So many benefits and many, many exercises can be done with it. Am 69 and still doing grande jetes, thanks to the Power Plate. Note: I have had this for almost two years and use it perhaps three times a week for 9 - 18 minutes each time.
I am interested in this technology. Power plate is WAY above my budget. I found a different brand much more in my budget. It had really good reviews, so I ordered it. I am looking forward to trying it out.
You can get it in some gyms like YMCA in some locations.
Do you mind sharing the brand and from where? 😊
@@elizabethpreciado5874 LifePro waver got it on Amazon
Thank You for this sharing. You are MUCH appreciated. I needed to know if i could use it post bone surgery. Yes!! I'm a8 months out , and Now have a low impact tool to alleviate all of the symptoms.
What about studies done by NASA and professor, *Clinton Rubin,* for maintaining bone, that show that these machines should be low intensity (less than 1g force) and high frequency (30Hz)?
The Power Plate is high intensity. I think it’s about 8g at its lowest setting?
For context, earth 🌎 has a g force of 1. When we walk, the impact to our heel is about 1.2 or so.
Professor Rubin feels these higher intensity devices could cause harm to the body.
BTW, 🔍 online for whole body vibration and the word frequency if you’re looking for an affordable unit that offers 30Hz and less than 1g of force and doesn’t cost 3K (it’s currently 400).
Thank You Dr. Fuhrman !!!
You can improve balance by doing specific exercises that do not have to be performed on Power Plate. You can improve bone density by doing targeted resistance or weight bearing exercises that do not have to be completed using vibration equipment. Of course you can break your hip if you fall forward or fall backwards, so I don’t understand his comment on that. Making claims that people have improved Dexa scan results does not “prove” it is the Power Plate that is making those improvements. Whole Body Vibration has not been shown in research to improve bone density especially in the spine because a “knees bent” stance is required. Whole Body Vibration can also lead to problems if the hertz cycle or amplitude are too strong, creating gravitational force above 2g. Scientific work carried out by Dr Clifton Rubin through his research with NASA has pinpointed the “sweet spot” requirements for use of vibration to increase bone density. If Power Plate uses the calibrations determined by Dr Rubin’s research, then it might have value, but you don’t have to exercise on the machine if that’s the case.
@@Magpie Girl, this is valuable information-thank you for sharing!! ❤❤
Vibration platesar fun. Anything that gets people moving is helpful.
Wow you are getting younger everyday!💕💕
No he's not
@@missnurseeri problem?
@@damirzlatkic8134
He looks fantastic, and is aging great, but she’s right-he’s not getting younger. None of us are! And that’s okay! It’s okay to age (and to look older too) so long as you stay healthy. :)
Great video Doc, thank you.
It would have been nice if you demonstrated it and told people how to get it if they wanted it.
You can go to the doctor foreman.com he hasn't listed on his website and they are running a 20% off promotion. The price is going up because of covid shortages making it more expensive to manufacture
Just put it i your browser.
Thank you for your advice, I follow your nutrition advice and have purchased a power plate. Hope to reap the benefits over time ❤
Excellent education! Thank you so much! I am an OT now retired.
Well, that was an ad, if there ever was one...
This would be better without the typos. I believe it's "osteoporosis", not "osteoperosis".
Love your work. I am wondering if my husband can use powerplate as he has a metal knee? Mthx, sharon
Its easy to see that you are flexible and can move elegantly and easily up- and Down and side to side - Cat like 😀😺
Dr. Fuhrman, is it possible that WBV could cause a vibration feeling in my brain. Did l over do it. Do you do more than 10 minutes at a time? Lately l have been waking at night and l feel like my brain is vibrating. More is not better.
Do you have any studies that show Power Plate training leading to greater gains in muscle mass or bone density compared to regular training?
The same way he can't give interventional studies showing meat cause disease. Check the interview he did with Dr Paul Saladino and see how facts destroys veganism with himself admitting the plenty nutritional deficiencies from not eating meat
@@stefansmith920 ha!
@@stefansmith920 I watched a DVD series of his about 10 years ago where he presented study after study backing his claims. He does admit b12 deficiency but only because we sterilize our plants. The animals that eat plants don't eat them in a sterile environment. Do you know where b12 comes from? Where do the animals we eat get their protein, vitamins and nutrients? From plants. We mainly eat vegetarian animals. Their flesh contains the nutrients they ate from the plants. It doesn't just show up there out of nowhere.
Dr. Furhman admits you can find studies that are skewed to your own opinion but to me some things are common sense. From your comment seems to me that your bent on finding fault with veganism. I wonder why you would do that. Guilt? I don't know. Best of health to you.
@@Becky-ol4tm Do you have 4 stomachs like cows. If you do your point is valid. If not maybe YOU are the one looking for things to advance your stupidity to think that animals is bad for us.
How can animals be bad for us that we ate for so long? Buy then give processed rubbish and day its healthy? Eat your stuff. Don't eat animals and let's see
Stefan, I have lost 115 lbs following Dr. Fuhrman’s nutritional advice based on peer reviewed randomized controlled studies and n=multiple thousands of people studied longitudinally. Read his books! Look up the studies yourself. Yes, of course vegans need to have vitamin B12 supplementation. Where did you hear that Dr. Fuhrman had not recommended this. B12 is necessary for healthy neurology and he explains this clearly along with recommendation of omega 3 (algae based). I do believe you are misrepresenting Dr. Fuhrman’s work which had helped so many people like me regain our health and likely extend our lives.
What about long term effect on the spine?
Aswith any excersize machinery,it is per individual. If you have those kind of concerns I would definitely consult an orthopedist and physical therapist before I used one. I have a lot of these things and I used one but I've had all that kind of advice
I have a 260 Vivo Wellness vibration plate, oscillating type. I'm wondering if you remember that brand? I can't find any information on it. I don't know what the frequency is on it or G-Force. I'm wondering if it is also effective for bones and cartilage or if it needs a higher frequency to be effective? I heard a doctor talk about a machine needing to be around 30 frequency and I'm not sure if oscillating ones go up that high but he also said it should be low G-Force and I'm not sure how low I would need to turn mine to be the right G-Force or frequency? I'm thinking if you turn it low it might not be a High enough frequency but if you have it high it might be too much g-force, which he thinks can be damaging, I'm not sure. I just want to know if I can still get results? And how high to turn it up?
If you can sort any physical therapist they'll tell you that you can get improvement from any vibration plate you just have to approach it slowly and work up to your capacity. This is just putting more stress on your bones and you'll produce more osteoblasts more about needless to say puts a little strain on your muscles and it turns your muscles
So where are the exercises? I don't need the sales pitch.
Most people need his advice and highly valuate but if you don't need device I need to do is go on TH-cam and look for workouts for vibration plates. There's lots and lots of them
I am feeling embarrassed for dr fuhrman in regard to this recommendation. I love his nutrition plan and I think his advice regarding eating is perfect for about anyone. But these insane prices for these vibrating platforms are outrageous. I bought a freestanding, random orbit vibrating plate about 3 years ago. It does what it says it will do, it is used daily by myself and my wife and we picked it up from Amazon for a little over $100, actually $114 I think. If I'd wanted a larger one with handrails it was around $300 at that time.
When people like Dr Fuhrman start putting their names on vastly over-priced merchandize, it's hard to swallow and it causes us to question the level of truth we're getting from people in whom we've put our trust. Please withdrawn from appears to be an obscene money grab Dr Fhurman
Is it safe to use after recover from hip replacement ? Also I heard it’s not ok to use if you have active cancer tumors ? I have metastatic breast cancer (tumors in lungs, liver and brain) I would like to use the Power plate but no one seems to know if it’s save with cancer tumors.
Please help. I respect your knowledge and follow your nutritarian diet.
God bless you I hope you are doing okay. Best wishes to you
The right diet inclusive 5 veggies Chinese soup and highly absorbable forms of turmeric are what would be needed along with a specific diet and fasting.
@@Angelika, sorry to hear that. :( I would check out WBV research by Clinton Rubin. I think he’s probably done more research than anyone. Perhaps a low vibration (
I myself would never have done this right after my hip replacement. I would wait till I had a physical therapist that I really trusted. But as far as the oncology question I would ask a lot of people that would because there are many situations in which you can spread cells. I am the specialist if any kind on this but I was a patient would ask a lot of people
Which exercises should one do on the Power Plate to benefit older people?
Start by sitting on one. Then slowly stand up. If you look on TH-cam for beginner workouts or workouts for seniors,on vibration plates you'll see them
Most Planet Fitness franchises have similar technology they call the Ultimate Body Enhancement Machine. DEFINATELY worth the $23.00 / month.
I looket it up on your HomePage its very expensive but I Think it sounds great - but since its so expensive I just work from the basic idea - “ keep moving” you might get a lot of effective strength and flexibility from a mixture of everyday walking, Soft knee bending and stretching, and a basic joyfull freestylerap dancing and eventually mixture of basic qi gong and yoge or just basic stretching and strengthening - its all about moving with joy and playfullness walking and dancing outside in Nature 😄🍀💚
No disrespect to anyone here, but whole body vibration at higher g forces and intensity is not helpful for low bone denisty and can really be harmful. Please check out Melioguide and the actual clinical trials (2020) for the Marodyne low intensity platform that is safe.
Yes, I advise all to check their site and do some reading on this subject.
They say to use a low vibrational g force of less than 1 and a high frequency of 30Hz.
Their unit is 3K. There’s a low vibrational high frequency unit on Ama.. that is 400. Just FYI. :)
I thought this video would be about the PCRM power plate not fitness equipment.
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“Regimen,” not “regiment.”
Thank you dr i am a specialist sports nutrition personal trainer
I read 5 books of dr Joel so far, this is the worst video in terms of honestly and product placement.
Improvement year over year with DEXA scans simply comes from all of the diet and exercise changes they are making. So it seems like you’re just trying to sell something here.
*old people, they break the hip and then they fall* ... allegedly
In my 70s as are most of my friends and it's really not far to fall or are you likely to fall. As you put your foot on it you realize that you must be very balanced to put the other one on. It warns you but good
$13,000 to $1,500. wow.
wow super overpriced on his website... profits out of this world... order in china
I adore Dr. Fuhrman and everything is about but I got one for about 80 bucks on TV and it was great it is great. I love it and I believe it does the same thing or all we need.
Eat a healthy plant based diet and exercise regularly.
Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly.
Obesity is all too common today. Get off the couch.
Ride to work, ride to school, ride for fun.
Every city should be a bicycle city.
Speak up for bicycles in your community.
Forget bikes. Learn to run. If you cannot run I consider you to be terribly sick and disabled. Walk until you can run. Use a running coach to work out proper form.
Learning to run is something every adult should take seriously as if they are coming out of a car accident and spending years on physical rehab.
@@agnidas5816 We need all kinds of transportation options. Walking, ebiking, escooters, electric buses, electric trams all can be part of the public transportation options for a healthy city.
@@KJSvitko Please don't forget roller skating, motorcycles, trains and being carried by silverback gorillas!