The Greedy Upsell : 2024 ASUS Zephyrus G14 & G16
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Jarrod's Tech video mentioned re: 4080 and 4090 power scaling (with time stamp).
• RTX 4080 vs RTX 4090 -...
Timeline:
0:00 intro
2:05 G14 Hardware Issues - the downgrade
7:20 Pricing Woes - the greedy upsell
16:30 the G16 - The greedy upsell... again
18:56 Buy something else (or a 2023 g14/16....)
#asus #g14 #zephyrus - บันเทิง
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Glad to see my concerns weren’t wildly un-based 😅
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Some people care about battery life. But you're right... Pricing is gross.
True. I think it's important to remember that yes these MSRPs are not great but these will go on sale as G14s always do and be reasonable to Good for the price.
You dont buy a gaming laptop for battery life, but I get your point.
I like ASUS products but they tend to overprice so much of their lineup. People bought and liked the G14 because it was always priced reasonably for the build quality and specs it provided. Now, not anymore. They're vacating the $1,200-$1,500 range and handing it over to Lenovo. Dumb decision by the greedy decision makers at ASUS. Best Buy will definitely put these on sale in a few months or at the end of the year to clear out stock.
Thank you for trying to keep your integrity. Too many "reviewers" are really just shills and marketing arms for companies that give them free stuff or "review" units so they can get revenue from TH-cam ads before other actual reviewers who use their own money to buy stuff they review.
What integrity? He hasn’t even physically tested the laptop, just a bunch of conjecture which happens to be wrong. For starters the laptop runs cooler than last years model. Something he mentioned many times in this video which turns out to be completely wrong. Go watch Jush Josh’s video for actual objective testing of the laptop.
@@BigBoss7777777 You clearly didn't look at the graphs correctly. 2024 G14 runs hotter and louder than 2023 G14 while having worse performance.
@@goldmastersimulationsnot louder but hotter.
Not to refute, but just as a possible justification - Nvidia isn’t helping, with the outrageous gpu pricing
@@BigBoss7777777Just Josh made a point of saying that the new g14 runs hotter and uses more wattage than last year
They're targeting for "creators" who pay stupid amounts for a slightly thinner chassis. It's not just ASUS either, check the prices for the new HP x360 spectre. It's ridiculous
And college students which I personally dont mind, cause most of 3d rending based programs require a good laptop, and the zephryus series is perfect cause of its office look while being powerful, as a student who is about to buy it I dont mind spending extra for bucks thats perfect for me.
@@MrPotato_Cod You'll want 32Gb RAM minimum for that use case. Why not buy the razer blade 14 if you wanted the slim look? It has even better power draw and a better screen
@@miscwork-qb7pd i know, I am just saying zephuryes g16 is perfect for me (if i buy it over the decked out lenovo legion pro 7i gen 8)
4060 / 16gb / 1tb G14 (2024 model): 2250 EUR.
Arc / 32gb / 1tb Spectre x360 14: < 1800 EUR.
I want ('need' ahem) an Nvidia gpu, but that HP looks very nice as well. If I have to give a choice for a work-laptop that HP is looking nice.
The 'new' Intel Ultra 7-h processor is also looking surprisingly OK. Good efficiency, good performance on battery, good battery life. Normally the reason I want a Ryzen in my laptops.
@@jorismak Since when did everyone normalise over 1500 $/€ for a thin & light laptop? If all you're doing is word processing and basic media browsing, anything over 1000 is overpriced. They're charging that much because they can and people buy into the "looks", a better keyboard and battery doesn't cost 500
You can't spell ASUS without SUS!
Everyone has their ups and downs… I think in general out of all the laptop brands I would trust, Asus and Lenovo would be my top pick; I wholeheartedly agree with everything in the video though. I criticized apple for their near criminal upgrade path, and the same thing is happening with Asus
You are paying for the nicer build, better screen and speakers. For a lot of peoples, those are more important than having a 9% faster CPU and GPU, but I do agree that the 16 GB Ram is lame.
You also can't spell Sushi without SUS.
I love you @@evancycles
Hey, after watching your video I do get your point on the price to performance ratio offered by Asus on this years system configuration but I'm really liking the G16 in terms of design and performance should be fine for my usuage, do you have any alternatives that you could suggest?
do you have a link to Jarrod's tech 4080 tdp difference video that you mentioned?
i added a card to the video when i mention it, and added his video to my description. its well worth a watch. Jarrod is great as always when it comes to laptop vs laptop content.
@@TechGuyBeau thanks i was looking for it myself till i saw your reply thanks a bunch.
@@TechGuyBeau Yes Jarrod's amazing
In the g14 preview from LTT they show a graph shortly where you see watt vs performance from the 4000 serie
Great video. I had a feeling these laptops were going to be a step back at a higher cost, that's why I purchased the 2023 G14 with the RTX 4060 on sale at BestBuy for $1,099.99. I then purchased a 16gb stick of ram (32gb total) and a 2TB SSD for a total cost of $1,279.99, disabled turbo boost in the registry, uninstalled Armoury Crate and installed G-Helper and this laptop is fantastic now especially for the price. Consumers shouldn't have to do this to make it right, but most people that purchase a laptop like this tinker anyway. I had the Lenovo Legion 5 14", but I couldn't get past the glossy reflective display and the overall brightness with no G-Sync and soldered ram, and not that great of a keyboard. Thanks again...keep up the good work!👍
I didn't even know about g-helper. I already have a 16gb so-dimm and a 2tb drive new at home. The 2023 model is on sale for 1049 with a 4060 - really good deal. Tempting. But that oled screen :/
SPITTIN FAX. PREACH BEAU PREACH.
Enjoying the camera quality and audio quality improvements
thanks, bought a pricy camera for CES. gotta put it to use :P
as an unsponsored youtuber and someone who is still finishing his phd. my broke ass needs to take things one step at a time
Appreciate the passion you bring to the sector
First of all, thanks for being a sober reviewer!
getting a good developer machine in this market is so annoyingly hard right now, what is reliable? I was looking at the Spectre but if I want 32GB on that, I also need to switch to the 16 inch OLED model. No configurator here in NL. At this point my only options is wait for more new Lenovo options like the yoga 9i 2 in 1, will you review that and the new Yoga 7i pro? I'm looking at those right now. Also, any personal recommendations? I want 32GB, and if you think OLED isn't gonna be good with the PWM or for development / text/code processing, please tell me.
There is a previous Intel 13th gen 13705? or 13605 i7 with MiniLED display but I dont know about efficiency / battery life and cooling on those, I know intel's last gen kinda sucks but idk..
One of my vivobook 14 pro overheated just cause my room was hot. The laptop fan was set to balanced and the CPU went up to 87C and shutdown. I can imagine the G14 in a warm room.
I agree for the most part. As someone who is going to college next year and is not a “gamery” person but also owned a 2020 g14. I thought I was going to have to settle with a MacBook 14 but this is everything I needed. There a reason why they are still selling last years model. Different target markets
Agreed, and personally I was already set on getting a G14, but this is overall better for me because of the new thinner and lighter design.
What would you say the difference is between the Mini-LED screen of the 2023 Zephyrus G14 and the OLED of the new one?
what you think of MSI Stealth 14? I really like it and it's on sale in Best Buy for 999 rn
100% agreed. How do you feel about last year's G14 with Ryzen 9 7940HS, RTX 4080 125W Max TGP, 16GB RAM soldered (+1 empty RAM slot), 1TB SSD for $2999 Canadian?
That's the sale going on currently at Asus website for that model and literally the only G14 model worth looking at in Canada atm, but I'm curious about how the 4080 performs in that chassis, and even if it does perform adequately, if the after-tax CAD $3400 price tag is worth it for that model? Or should one just look at other laptops? I want in the 14-16 inch range but lightweight and portable.
Great video!!! What laptop would you recommend?
Are they already sold out? I can't find g14 2024 from Best Buy.
No - they haven’t posted yet
„Gamer“ Companies scamming people- nothing new, but totally agree on the „being upset“ about the G14/G16 2024 (probably bought) Reviews. Just saw on Notebookcheck that they given the G14 4060 a 93% !! (Price arround 2500€)-> I got my Legion Pro 7 with a 4090 for that price (which only got 90% by them).
because Lenovo’s getting complacent with their display technology - they should have miniled/OLED displays already on their non-slim devices
friend of mine got the new hp omen transcend 14 really early and we compared it to my legion 7 with 4070.
this thing runs no joke soo good for that small formfactor and for the fact its just a 80W? 4070.
he have nearly the same fps +/- 5fps. and this things looks gorgeous as hell.
also the fan noise + heat does'nt sound bad or feel like a vulkan.
(also pricing is very fair in EU, you can get the highest spec version for like 2200€~ (with coupon codes etc))
Is there new omen 16?
What country?
can you tell us any any coupon codes?
I saw on the hp website that it had a 65w tdp for the 4070. Had to search through the support documents for it. Maybe it’s listed wrong? I hope so. I mean the g14 4070 is 90w, but if the transcend is 80w maybe I could deal with that.
@@JayRello1 It is definitely 80W with boost to 95W. Like i said, it had it in front of me and i can't stop thinking about getting one for myself. Its the ideal work+gaming machine imho.
Spitting Fax🔥🔥🔥, Asus done it again! Upselling laptop just because it is popular, only Apple has the privilege to do that and at least the Apple has good ecosystem & build quality to pay for the apple tax! I bet the built quality on the G14 is way worse than the legion slim 5 and Macbooks too.
It angers me because I’ve owned ever g14 model to date and like them all despite quirks. This one is just offensive
I understand your dissapointment.
I'm so glad I've got my Legion Slim 7 in the right time. Now I've got a 4060, 40GB RAM and 2.5TB SSDs. No upgrade for a loong time. But I love G-Sync. Have that on my TV and never would get a notebook without. No more tearing is awesome.
The pricing in Germany is more ridiculous. G14 2024 with rtx 4060 and 16gb of ram costs 2199€. For 32gb of ram you should buy rtx 4070 version with 2599€. Then Legion slim 5 14 with 32gb of ram and rtx 4060 costs 1300€
Yeah that's an insane price for that G14 spec. ASUS is delulu.
Yeah the price from ASUS in Europe was bad last year but it’s even worse now.
In india we get ASUs g14 rtx 4050 2023 for 2000 dollars usd you guys are privileged😂
Compare Indian prices with UK prices. It's the same. Comparing with US prices is unfair for all.
Finally !!! Someone has a pair of steel.
will you review the modells?
I was expecting that these new models are going to be expensive due to the new manufacturing processes and build materials that will be used, but this is an insane level of markup. I was going to get that 32GB of RAM, but that price does not justify it. Looks like my money will go else where now.
I hope the "lenovo legion 7" series doesn't have the same problems.
is there any news on it?
do you know if the RAM memory is soldered?
It’s dual sodimm. Upgrade from last year in fact
Any link to the Lenovo new laptops ? They are totally eaten by zephyrus news.
@@michaozga7825 let's wait, I'm curious about the new cooling system.
I'm in no hurry, I'll probably change computers on Black Friday
Search Lenovo Legion Gen 9. They already have pages up for Gen 9 models too. And Jarrod covered them in his CES 2024 video.
And its like double the thigness and has half the battery life... great comparison
Anyone know what laptop someone should buy if they want to do a moderate amount of gaming and making 2d games at this point? I was looking at the ROG Zephyrus G14 2022 and was unsure if it would be worth it at this time. I would like to have a slim laptop I can carry around fairly easily.
Why not the g14 2023, prices have dropped a lot? Or the legion 5 slim 14” I show in the video if you want that sweet sweet OLED
Nice to se a real review and honest not like all this other channels that are bought by the brands. well done
Silent fan here 👋🏼 Following since last year’s Black Friday and I’m really glad to see the channel growing! I’m still looking to buy a laptop for design work + gaming and the future reviews will help me choose 100% 🙏
Ayy. Glad to see a comment
As Canadians, we always get the short end of the pricing stick even with the “budget” laptops like the Zenbook 14 😢
plus it looks like they aren't selling the white versions of these laptops in Canada
Just like any other product launch, you have to wait a few months for some good sales to begin
First gpu laptop i got was the 3060 g14. It got to 203 degrees F and lasted 1 hour 24 minutes doing chromebook work. Acer has held up well and my 3070ti model shockingly has gone up 300.00 in value lol.
My man, I had to say thanks for being one of the very and I mean very few TH-camrs/creators who's fully honest about tech gear. Prices have got so ridiculous I only buy used now from good sellers on eBay. Keep doin your thing brotha! 🙏
Oh wow thanks for the donations man. Extremely appreciated.
And I will do my best to always stay neutral and objective in my analysis 🫡
thank you for telling the truth about greediness of asus. my aero 16 is better value at 1800eur meanhwile in my country the zephyrus 16 4070 starts at 3500eur wtf
I would like your honesty opinion on alienware laptop (ex m18 with 32 gb RAM and 4080 and x16 with same specs) people say the software is bad temps bad, only 300 nits on x16 etc etc. what do you think?
Useage: 3d rendering (for college) and gaming
(In terms of money I dont mind spending if I can get a perfect laptop of my taste)
What do YOU recommend for gaming laptop with 32gb with 4080??
Heres what other things I want: feels solid in terms of build quality, good ports selection, and preferably a 16” display thats not FHD (wont be end of world if its FHD).
Budget: under $4000 cad
is the screen on the x16 FHD?
@@TechGuyBeau used to be FHD now theres no option for it. I dont really know much about gaming laptops.
You gained one sub and a like 💪
A reminder for the: it’s for “creators” defence
1. 16 gb…. No creator uses 16gb (aka forced upsell)
2. ROG = republic of GAMERS
This is simply a greedy upsell on an already insane price. With last years technology
Wait so is it being sold out in US I’ve been checking every single day , are there bots again buying ?
If I wanted a 16 inch oled 240hz, what would you recommend then? My budget is 2.500 cad
tbh, still probably the g16, for others you may want to wait a year or 2 for oled, if you dont want oled theres alot better options
Where can I find that slim 5 with those configs? I can’t seem to find it anywhere here on Amazon US. Can you give me link please???
You need to use the builder. The nice thing is often the builder offers better discount too
@@TechGuyBeau Thank you so much! And where do you find the builder option??
@@guilhermepietro7178 if you are American here. The black button
www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/legion-slim-5-gen-8-(14-inch-amd)/len101g0032
Don’t forget to add coupons. Edge browser can auto add them, or outside sources, if a student be sure to add that for more discount, oh and don’t forget code EXTRA5 ;)
Can you vouch for how well (or not) Cyberpunk runs on the Legion 5 14”? The G14 (2023) could not maintain 60 with DLSS Performance, ray tracing medium, and high settings. It was really really bad, ~52 FPS average with DLSS feels a lot worse than native 52 FPS average. The even HIGHER resolution on the Legion 5 and this new G14 scares me.
@@worldofz00 I have a full video comparing the g14 to the legion 14 slim. I actually used cyberpunk as my benchmark
Which one has better speakers
Planning to buy this though. Congrats on the 40k subs. You deserve it man. 🎉
Please consider 32gb if you are buying in. And thanks, 40k in 1 year is crazy to me
@@TechGuyBeau Will do, at least if there is a good sale for it :)
prices are ridiculous.
I don't live in Malaysia, but these are the recently announced prices there for the 2024 G14:
RTX 4050 GPU-powered GPU,16GB RAM & 1TB PCIe 4.0 (RM7999, about CAD2,255)
RTX 4060 GPU-powered GPU,32GB RAM & 1TB PCIe 4.0 (RM8999, about CAD2537)
Regardless of the price, is the G14 2024 still a good laptop? Because it's the only RTX 4070 14" model available that I can see in Australia (it doesn't even have the 2023 version here).
There are no 4080 or 4090 14" laptops in Australia for some reason and it's infuriating. Unless anyone's kind enough to provide information on other similarly-sized laptops with equivalent or more power.
I understand your point. This is just my 2 cents thinking here. Speaking on US price the base model has same price last year model with Oled, better speaker, kind of better design (depend on taste), probably lower lock GPU but higher lock CPU. Pricing depend on GPU pricing as well not just laptop manufacturers. 4080 would be charged the same to laptop manufacturers before they could lower the lock or increase depend on the design itself. And depend on country as well. Duties, taxes, and tariff might be different on company as well.
i bought the msi stealth 14 for like a 1000 usd couple of days ago (waiting for it to be delivered).. i was waiting for the new G14 as well but seeing the price i am glad i did not..
now just hoping the stealth 14 is a good investment
That model comes with upgradable RAM. (2 slots). It is a GOOD investment.
@@dalvart yup. And for that price I think it's worth getting.
Could you please do a recommended gaming laptop video for certain price points? I appreciate your honest views and just don’t want to be ripped off on technical specs. Thanks.
i can, in the mean time check out Jarrod's Tech. He just put out a video in that vein in the past week or two.
last month I picked up a Asus m16 with the 4070 an i9, I ended up returning it after 2 weeks it was a buggy mess that would freeze an lock up just sitting at the desk top, it had audio issues the speakers would pop an turn off, the fans where extremely loud in turbo an in performance mode it ran so hot it would thermal throttle the cpu so bad the 1% lows. I have a desktop with a 1080ti so I decide to just get an ultra book an picked up an Asus zenbook 14x for $650 from best buy an it has been a great laptop with none of the bugs from the asus m16, I was tempted swap it for one of these new G14/ G16's but after seeing this video my fears where confirmed the soldered memory is a problem an the temps are still not looking good, looks like I am sticking with the 14x an the desktop for gaming still. but I am interested in the new Asus zenbook 14 with the core ultra 7, at $1300 for 32 gb an 1tb it is defiantly not the steal that this 14x is but I am interested in the new arc Igpu for light gaming an heavy workloads. Any thoughts on the I7 13700h 14x oled vs the new core ultra 7 155h 14 oled.
I personally wouldnt take advice from someone who does not have the actual laptop in hand, and seems to have a personal vendetta against the company, and speaking out of anger. I myself had the m16 4070, and returned it. I pre-ordered the 2024 g14 4070, and I'm super excited
The 2024 G14 and G16 may not be the least expensive nor the best performing RTX 4070 laptops available, but getting reasonable performance from an RTX 4070 in a 14" chassis that weighs only 3.3 lbs, (just 4.1 lbs in the case of the G16) is a real achievement. Lighter than a Macbook Pro 14. The HP Omen Transcend 14 is 3.7 lbs, as is the Lenovo Slim Pro 9i. The Lenovo Legion Slim 5 is 3.85 lbs and the Razer Blade 14 is 3.9. There is simply nothing else on the market that performs this well yet is as thin and light. That's what I'm willing to pay the premium for.
For the g14, on the rog website
The Canadian site has added a configuration with 4060 and 32gb ram in the tech specs section. Hopefully they change all versions everywhere to be sold with 32gb of ram as standard.
Prices haven't been updated for the new configurations yet, and I don't trust them to be nice with it. :(
Edit: what I see on the us site shows only the 4070 version with 32gb of ram :(
good info
Well, at LEAST they arent selling DOA 16gb laptops with soldered memory for THOUSANDS of dollars.
the 32gb will be able to support modern gaming longer, and be able to tough it out as a creator laptop (which they are clearly targetting). No creator uses a 16gb laptop lets be real
Love your channel man, always keeping it real 👏
yeah I am waiting for the Zen 5 update of the Slim 5. That thing will be a beast.
Base 16* model in Poland 3.2k dollars. I wish I could just pay ur price and get it shipped here.
I was thinking of buying this machine but now i am completely confused, i want a machine for code and bit of gaming, and thought that finally something with decent battery and not that heavy
Do you have any recommendations on the kind of laptop i require
Asus ROG zepherus G16(2024). Period. I just got it. You should get it too based on your requirements. Don't listen to this prick. This is the dumbest laptop review video I have ever seen on TH-cam
I’m exactly in the same situation. Did you get to any conclusion?
@@carlaxelvonhorn1453 I ended up buying lenovo yoga slim 7 core ultra and Xbox series s, slim7 coz it has all the hardware I need + overall great package + Linux installable
i was just about to buy a g16. thank you for making me aware of the absurd pricing
Hi Beau I am looking for a new laptop and I have a budget of $2200. I saw the Flow X16 4070 drop to 2100 USD last week. It is back up now but if that same deal returns should I get it?
4050/60/70 gpu??
2100 for 4070 , 2-in-1is good, but if your main intention for pen input, asus is a bit lacking
@@TechGuyBeau RTX 4070
@@asmrnaturecat984 I am in Graduate School and I need something that can look professional and still be able to game AAA titles without a sweat.
@@DarthLibrait’s good. The x16 is one of asus’s best laptops, and the price is good. It had a mini LED, upgradeable storage and ram. I’d say go for it :)
Thanks for this video. Spot on assessment of the terrible value proposition of this year's (2024) G14/G15 offering from Asus, at least at current prices (as of Feb 2024). I'd imagine that in 6-8 months there will be big discounts. I think Asus is banking on a certain segment of consumers who will find the sleeker redesigned chassis to be appealing. Ie, the people who want a Macbook Pro 14" style chassis but who want a Windows OS and gaming functionality. Not a terrible strategy to jack prices up at for 3-6 months to take the money of said consumers before reducing them in the couple of months leading into Black Friday to get the price sensitive consumers to buy later in the year. With that said, please keep making videos like this one bc in the weeks after CES all I saw from the other popular laptop reviewers on TH-cam were fawning reviews of the G14/G16 that focused on the redesign with no mention of price and upgradeability.
Yep. I got a g16 to review, but the average buyer should wait for sales. I spent a fortune to buy this review unit…. Feels BAD
Ok ok I do need to disagree in terms of using last year chips (intel) the 13th gen vs 14th gen chips is like a bad performance upgrade so it dont really make sense for charge even more for a chip that have small upgrade from last year plus if they uses this year chip it also mean higher temps (correct me if am wrong)
I bought Lenovo legion 5 rtx 4060(140watt),Ryzen 7 7735hs,2k,165hz for 1000$
Slim 5 16, 4070, 165hz, 512GB version for EUR 1150 or Zephyrus G16 i9- 13900H, 4070, 1TB, 240HZ for EUR 1450? Which one will you suggest?
Slim 5 will run cooler, have better batter, and perform equal or better. Just be sure to get the 1600p screen option
While I agree that ASUS is honestly looting us by setting those prices and restricting 32GB ram versions to exclusively be the pricier options, I don’t think your comparisons with other laptops made much sense. A laptop is not a PC that is going to sit at a place at all times and hence it’s not just the performance that exclusively matters. The speakers, the aesthetics, portability relative to other laptops (even if a 100 grams), etc.
Agreed!
For those looking at the more reasonably priced G16 in Canada, Best Buy fortunately has put up for pre-order the 32 GB, 4060 model with a 185H. I think this is going to be the sweet spot for the G16 in terms of price to performance.
If you’re dead set on this laptop, this is the one I’ve decided to pre-order for review. The price is still a bit out to lunch, but at least it will be capable and have legs. 32gb soldered is a much better investment than 16 👍
Was seriously considering this model until I watched this video. Can you do a similar review of the new Razer Blade 14?
2024? I might snag one but they are very pricy.
Or do you mean provide feedback? Imo the blade is nice but it’s VERY expensive. They put everything in so that it runs pretty much max, but still is thin.
I actually liked the 2023 blade 14 dude to ram upgradeability. I think if you are willing to spend major dough, and want a thin laptop do a head to head between the asus g14 with 32gb vs the blade and check pricing. If the asus is cheaper get that (due to OLED). Don’t even consider the 16gb g14
Otherwise if OLED is a thing you need and you don’t need super thin, only kinda thin, what about the legion 14 I showed? Superb laptop
Finally… if you don’t care about OLED but just want a good screen and 14”. Why not the 2023 g14? It will perform better than this and costs a fraction on sale. Plus the ram can be upgraded :) (it’s a bit thicker though)
Fantastic. Thanks!
Which 4090 Laptop is worth getting, if the g16 is not worth it?
The G1 16 with a 4080 or 4090 is absolutely not worth it. If you’re going to buy a G6 don’t go above a 4060 or 70. 4080 and 4090 needs to be in a proper gaming laptop with a thick chassis and high wattage. Otherwise it serves no purposeP
I did some research and found the Blade 16 with Oled and Rtx 4090, and I was wondering if it is worth it
Just a heads up: the 8000 Ryzen CPUs have over twice the TOPS performance compared to the 7000 series. So it's not exactly the same, but for most applications it will be...
don't check the swedish prices
Wait for ASUS zenbook 16 or 16x 2024 version
Lpddr5 is soldered only especially on SOCs
Note: this is laptop with a 4080 thats as thin as a mac, they obviously soldered it to save space
For $3200 U.S. I'm buying a MacBook Pro 16" that has better power efficiency, better re-sale value and will run cooler than what Asus G14/16 is offering. Sure the games won't be there but that's what my Lenovo Legion Go is for.
I’m glad this is covered. I like the design and fits what I’m looking for in a laptop but wow those prices were very high. I agreed not worth at its current price.
Yep, people just need to be away before panick buying something. Reviewers can often have a “cherry-on-top” message, rather than truly pointing out the good and the bad. Not all, but many do.
So what would be a fair price?? I'm in no hurry, and willing to wait for a sale
Canada, $2000 -2100 for the 32gb + 8945hs + 4060
USA, $1400-1500 for the same.
Don’t overspend. Just wait on sales. Asus is praying for “hype purchases” rather than people taking their time
My main beef with 2024 G14: price, soldered 16GB RAM, and no vapor chamber even though it'll definitely need one.
I initially wanted to replace my 2023 G14 with this 2024 model for that oled and speakers. But after watching some early reviews, (educated) speculations, and discussion on forums, I lost my interest.
Gonna finally slap another 16GB of ram on my G14 and keep it until RTX 5000 series next year.
Hey, I've been watching your videos, and they are very instructive. I'm thinking of buying myself a new laptop but I'm hesitating between the G16 2024 and the X16. Can you help me somehow?
I'm French, so the laptops I'm talking about can be purchased at these prices:
ASUS ROG ZEPHYRUS-G16-GU605MV 16" OLED QHD+ 240HZ 0.2MS INTEL CORE ULTRA 9 185H RAM 32 GB LPDDR5X 1 TB SSD GEFORCE RTX 4060 -> 2700€
ASUS ROG FLOW X16 GV601VV 16" WUXGA 240HZ INTEL CORE I9 13900H RAM 16 GB DDR5 1 TB SSD GEFORCE RTX 4060 TGP 120 W BLACK -> 2700€
My concerns are the hinge on the X16 and the fan noise on the G16.
Can you or someone advise me if one or another is worth my money?
The x16 is more powerful. It has a miniLED screen so no burn in. It has dual ram, and dual nvme slots. It’s a tiny bit thicker but runs much cooler
The ONLY negative for the x16 is slightly less battery life.
The x16 sweeps here my dude. It’s one of my favourite laptops.
Thanks for your message; I've taken note. One last thing: are there any complaints about the long-term use of the X16's hinge? @@TechGuyBeau
Appreciate this a lot, Beau!
everyone should see this video. Shame on Asus to ripoff people. i was waiting for these laptops. bye bye Asus. keep up the AMAZING work. Just improve your presentation to be more appealing for your audience.
One word sums this up. "APPLE" Hey they get away with it so why can't the other companies begin to sell you the same item year after year while downgrading the product and selling it for more money
I cant find these links anywhere anymore....
So 2023's Legion Slim 5 is a better buy than G14 2024. What about 2024's 14" Legion? Just to compare apples to apples.
The slim 5 is a MUCH better buy yes. It’s dramatically cheaper for better performance of an equally spec’d g14. 2024 14” legion hasn’t been announced so no clue. They sold these like crazy so I’m sure they will launch a new one, but it could be months away
@@TechGuyBeau I was sure there were some first impressions from 2024's CES on the new Legions.
They changed their names. No more "Slim". But, their naming method is Super Duper confusing!
Anyways, some said the new desing looks bad. Again, they have OLED screens. So, I wonder if 2023's model is still more relevant.
p.s- There's HP OMEN 2024 to wait for as well, but it might have an Intel CPU [=i.e= 2 hour battery life probably] + Again, probably no one will review it for video editing. Only for Gaming...
@@eladbari check out my video. I clear up the naming of the legions for this year
Basically
- Legion 5 pro -> legion 5 pro. Same but updated cpu
- Legion 7 pro -> legion 7 pro. Same but updated CPU
Legion 5i slim 16” -> legion 5i (new GPU offerings, improved cooling, more powerful CPU )
Legion 7i slim -> legion 7i , updated cpu. Improved cooling. Comes in white
Legion 5 slim 14” -> ????? (Unannounced)
It would be nice if last years 4080 would get a nice discount.
I hope I'm happy with it :). I'll see.
I use it for coding / processing raw pictures / some low-spec gaming. I have a 35watt 3050ti now, with 16gb, and my desktop is 16gb, and I never ever have run into memory issues or being close to it. Except when playing around with AI models that are 16gb large 😔.
The 4050 / 4060 / 4070 perform so close to each other that it doesn't matter which you get, in practise. And their performance plateaus around the 90watt to 100watt. If you have a 125watt power for a GPU, but a 4080 in it.
So yes, it's expensive. And it's kinda dumb that if I want 32gb, I also have to upgrade the 4060 to a 4070 which I really don't care about. But I'm happy with 16gb. I did look at the Lenovo Legion 5 14", but I'm a bit afraid I'll always compare it to my Thinkpads I had, and it doesn't live up to it.
But it's 1800 EUR vs 2250 EUR for the new G14. Or 1800 EUR for the 2023 G14 (the only one available still for sale), that is in a clearance sale now. But I went with the 2024 anyway. It's a hybrid working machine for me. The lower weight, the materials and the slimmer body is worth it.
Anyway, 2500 CAD sounds still OK. The CAD prices are one-to-one Euro prices here. So I pay 2250 EUR for the 4060/16gb version, you pay 2250 CAD. So I pay 3262 CAD. Now, that's including sales tax, which I think you don't use in comparisons over there. If I divide by 1.21 to remove 21% sales tax, I still end up at 2700 CAD.
Normally our prices are on par with the United States, so for us this is particularly egregious of a price gouge, Europeans unfortunately need to deal with these high prices all the time, so it’s a bit of a shock for us Canadians to see such crazy high prices
No 1. drawback for me is the soldered RAM. I actually NEED 64 GB for work. Last years allows me the 48GB through additional slot.
regarding your wattage point, (i am basing this off of Jarod Tech's video) the difference between a full power 4050-4070 as compared to a 90w is literally 1fps across all of them, you will never notice this change so its really slim, not saying that you know the 2024 G14 is really just a better looking 2023 G14 but gpu wattage decrease is much smaller than you make it out to be. The rest of your points are valid. TBH If I can I feel I might still try to pick up the 4070 32 gig version of the 2024 G14, its still good and the form factor is something I appreciate. No hate to you though!
I openly express that the power wattage 4060/70 won’t matter several times.
Jarrod also points out that the 4080 and 4090 at low watts are seriously nerfed
i have no problem with soldered memory - as long as it is fast and it is enough - :} Well said ! subbed
I got one last November thinking [G14 GA402XV] was a steal for the 512Gb / 16G version.... Now the 2Tb / 48Gb is $300 more 😮💨
Good stuff 👍
totally agree with you, gamers don't have that much money to spend on a laptop and fhe designers would usually go with apple's for that price. Asus really messed up with that pricing
considering ASUS has a slew of creator laptops already anyways...
but what if... I got the 32GB 14 inch model for free?
Then you are very lucky
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I agree with most of the points here and thanks for the heads up, but from a reviewer prespective I wouldnt make claims of certainty about performance and especially temperature (especial in a new untested form factor) until you have the product tested. But yeah these prices seems like a repackaging scam.
It’s not hard to understand how this will have heat issues. The G 14 2023 had a superior cooling solution and was thicker. Even that ran too hot. This is the exact same chip put into a thinner chassis with downgraded cooling
It will run hot. It’s just physics.
G14 is the windows macbook killer. You have to see it in person to understand how beautiful this thing is. Super slim and powerful at the same time. It does it all. Restored my faith in windows laptops.
I did, I used it at CES…. It’s overpriced
I'm not gonna disagree that the laptops are to the expensive side and you do definitely pay some for the 'brand' and comprise a bit on performance to get a smaller formfactor.
With that said, I think you went to fast over a quite essential point. The OLED with VRR -> in such a small form factor is very expensive and actually holds a significant value for the laptop that to my knowledge isn't on ANY of the laptops you compared it with. If you also look at LinusTechTips first video on this laptop he actually explains how VRR is not common on laptops at all and that it doesn't even really exist on phone, because its so hard to do.
2024 Legion slim/pro 7i are worth more.
Why?
What do u mean
Everything you said, aside from a bit of a slip in performance, are things I haven't experienced. The added AI will be good for the 8945hs moving forward.
I bought the 2023 M16 the moment I found out about the soldered ram, no thank you. As upgrading ram was one of my first plans with it.
Great Review, would live to hear Ur opinion for the omen transcend 14
Good analysis, but there could be risks to using Chinese tech products. Both the U.S. State Department and FBI have been sounding the alarm. I own the Legion Slim Pro 14", but may return it. I am still in the return window. Perhaps I'll go with an American company, the new 14" HP Omen looks nice, aside from the keycaps which I dislike.
I was going to buy the G14 2024 edition but you convinced me the legion 5 slim 14 inch is better because you can upgrade the memory plus its cheaper so i ordered that instead. But you have to admit the g14 2024 edition is sexy looking but you're right its expensive and offer little ram
Yes it’s very aesthetic. But for the price just get another creator laptop, he’ll even asus makes several.
Otherwise for gaming the legion is a superior buy
Crazy that ram is soldered in 2024 for gaming laptop that even friggin razer make their blade 14 ram not soldered.