ASUS Zephyrus G14 vs ASUS G16 - Choose Wisely!
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- 2024 ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 vs ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16. Should you buy the 14" model or go bigger? Hopefully this video helps you out!
ASUS ROG G14 ($1999 USD) - go.magik.ly/ml/20d6i/
ASUS ROG G16 ( RTX 4090) - go.magik.ly/ml/20iyd/
ASUS ROG G16 (RTX 4070) - go.magik.ly/ml/20iye/
ASUS ROG G16 (RTX 4080) - go.magik.ly/ml/20iyk/
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Modern big laptops are not as big as they used to be. Love having a big display and better cooling. The 16" makes more sense to me.
I think size is much less of a concern than weight nowadays. I would have happily purchased a bigger laptop if not for the added weight as size isn't really a concern since there are plenty of backpacks and laptops bags that can carry bigger laptops. With weight every ounce/gram added to your bag matters because they add up quickly.
4k and 1440p portable displays are cheap now, that and a 14” light laptop is the way to go
@@kytaem So it's easier for to carry a laptop + the charger + a monitor + the monitor power cord?
@@jonathanto99 16" are not on the heavy side considering most of the chunky gamer laptops are now 18".
@@omarcortes5754 you don’t always need the display. And it’s flat and light and easy to tote and there are battery powered models
i think ASUS should refine the flow series for creators. I would love Flow X16 Ultra 9, 32 GBs, 4070.
This is so true. Instead of revolutionize the zephyrus lineup which is actually created for those who want to game but also need to travel a lot, they should just maintain and upgrading the flow series which are aimed towards creator who wants to game. I personally will like it to be honest if they create zephyrus M16 and G16 to be similar to zephyrus s17 2021 or zenbook 16x oled. That laptop is great in thermals and performance. And I do think making a flow x14 and z14, upgrading the x16 screen to oled was better. Sorry I rant so much 🙃
The ProArt line already exists for that niche. I guess the Zenbook "Pro" designation offers the same thing but at a lower price point.
@@sz-AbOBqI zenbook pro has tons of features for creators. That's why it's expensive. For gamers, we don't need that. But yeah at the end, companies just want something that can rake themselves profits
I will still prefer g16
@@sz-AbOBqI and curiously enough the Zenbook Pro series did not get refreshed for this year which is a pain
This. I have been waiting for this comparison for literally years now 😂, really interested to see the performance uplift of the 4080 over the 4070!
ty for this comparison matt,
i'd love to hear some thoughts about docking, so, if im spending upwards of 3k on a high-end laptop, yes I want it to feel premium and have nice display and all that, but spending that ammount of money I want that to be my main system, so that means it's probably gonna get docked ,
could you share some experiences on that end? like get a nice dock, and a nice monitor, and see how the laptop behaves when docked, (does gysync work while docked?) you know? stuff like that.
Keep up the good work sir!
GG!
Would love to see a full comparison with the msi stealth ai 14 and 16
my 2022 g15 is still rocking. I'll wait for next year models for hopefully something more substantial cpu wise and non wobbly screens.
I still have the 3070 g15
It's been 2 years, I'd hope it's still rocking after dishing out the cash for it
@@vijayla21 Same
THANK YOU BRO I WAS WAITING FOR THIS! Also I was wondering if you can compare the 4060 ones cause the 4070 is 3000 cad.
Great comparison! i have been looking at both laptops, i'm just waiting for a discount. since i have a razor 14 3070
I haven't owned a personal laptop for a long time. Got the G14 4070 so i could put it in my backpack if it wanted. It's not replacing my desktop for gaming. Ultimate factor was cost, you can get a G14 plus a separate 4080 Super for the cost of a G16.
The 4070 g14 is 1999 the 4080 g16 is 2699? a 4080 super is like 1k? so I'm not sure how that's possible.
Amazing review Matthew, thank you!
Can the G16 with the 4070 also come with 32GB RAM or is it safe to assume that if one gets the 4070, that it is coming with 16GB. Reason being I see G16s advertised (from reliable sellers) to have the 4070 and 32GB.
Would appreciate your input if you get the time!
"Two, or even three years"
😂
I kept my last laptop for thirteen years. I expect closer to ten with my current Zephyrus M16. With the price of modern gaming laptops, I can't imagine writing off that cost in two years.
I always remove stickers straight away. They just date your laptop.
I commend you for that. How do you not feel the urge to upgrade when there are substantial generational improvements? (every 4 years or so)
I couldn't justify replacing a laptop that wasn't broken. Eventually what triggered the replacement was both the wired network port and the WiFi physical switch had stopped working, so no internet access. Sony make those things bullet proof.
The urge was there to replace it, the budget wasn't. I had to save a lot for my current one, and I'll keep it a long time as the money isn't there to replace it frequently. It's also the reason I went for the M16. I expected the LCD screen to last longer than the OLED screen on other models.
Me: Watching and reading from a mid-2012 MacBook Pro~
What laptop do you have that it lasted that long!!??
@@lovingmelodies2644
A Sony VAIO from 2010.
It had a couple of new batteries in its life, and I upgraded it from a HDD to an SSD when I switch from Windows 7 to Windows 10. But that's it.
What are your thoughts on the g14 with the 4060, I am looking at that model, but for a little bit more I could get the g14 with the 4070, not sure which makes most sense to get
Not much more differences between 4060 and 4070
@@SP4CE_RNGRthis is great to hear, I was just planning on playing on medium settings anyway so I feel like the 4060 is going to work for me
Will there be a future comparison between the xps14 & xps16 to the zephyr14 and Zephyr16 ?
16" makes a huge difference when you need to add a monitor to properly look 30-40 lines of code along with terminal window after buying 14"
Anything you do which require reading lines or screen space go for 16"
Have the 23 g16 and love it might upgrade soon
why would u upgrade a laptop u haven't even had for a year
upgrade as in upgrade the ram and storage?
I hope you don’t mean upgrade to the 2024 version. You have barely had it for a year dude 😮
Real talk: how long until we get these 14" or 16" 4:3 or 16:10 screens on budget laptops? Seems crazy that we (in my country, at least) still don't have any sub-500€ laptops with these dimensions, what gives?
Unupgradable ram is a bummer. I could use a new 2024 laptop (rtx4080+ new thermals etc), but at the same time at work I need 64 gb ram. Will have to skip this one then.
How do you feel about the new scar 18?
Is one of these laptops constantly pinging the windows error message sound?
I thought I was going crazy thinking there was something wrong with my machine, but I kept hearing that damn bong sound.
Do both laptops offer the same performance, it's safe to assume that the larger laptop will offer more wattage to the gpu as well as provide better cooling which highly affects performance.
Hey guys!
I want to buy a laptop but can not decide which one exactly?
First one is Asus zenbook with rtx graphic card the other one is 14 inch intel processor Asus rog Zepyhrus.
I know rog zepyhrus is a gaming laptop but still have a questions about battery life of it after optimization. Do you recommend to buy it or buying zenbook with higher parameters worth ? But i know Zenbook have good battery life and easily reaches more than 10 + hours.
Could you please help me?
Is the 4050 version enough for playing heavy games?
Please also compare Rog zephyrus g14 vs flow x13 vs strix g16 please bro
Or atleast g14 vs flow x13😢😢😢😢😢😢
Very hard to select
is the fan noise annoying on the silent mode? is it always on even on light tasks like web surfing and movie streaming?
It should be on. Should be quiet on low tasks though
Is the M series gonna be launched this year? Or is it discontinued?
No M series this year. You truly never know what you’re gonna get with Zephyrus laptops every year, so it’s hard to say if it’s discontinued 🤣
@@JoshCravesTech That may be because 13th gen to 14th gen (not Meteor Lake) is so minor that it's not worth putting it in.
@@cameronbosch1213 Also, no new graphics cards. We are still stuck with 4000 series until 2025.
@@poetic.voyage Exactly. I hope AMD finally brings out a Radeon RX 7900S or something for the Framework Laptop 16 and to give consumers more choice, but given AMD only just launched the 7900M version exclusively on the Alienware m18, I'm not holding my breath.
Nvidia is getting WAY too complacent in the mobile GPU space and I'm sick of it.
hey Matthew, thanks for this video, good insights. I am personally looking for a 32GB Oled, 16 incch laptop. I really like last years Yoga Slim 7 7840S, but I can't really find a similar 16 inch alternative. Any tips? I'm a software dev so display, keyboard, build, battery, touchpad etc, it all has to be good for long sessions, also on the go, in my lap etc. The G16 here with 32GB and 4070 is a letdown because for 2600 it comes with IPS instead of OLED. Such a shame.
G16 with rtx4070 and 32gb ram and 185h (nthere is also 155h which I skipped in favor of 185h for development) comes with oled as well for sure, ive ordered one
@@XmarvelsX here there is no oled below 3K euros and an rtx 4080. I don't want a 4080 is the problem.. Every country / region is different.
Wait for reviews of the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i with the core ultra processors and mini-LED screen. IMO OLED is still inferior to LCD when it comes to displaying text, due to the subpixel layout and burn in risk. OLED is better for gaming and watching content, but since your use is productivity I don't think mini-LED is inferior
@@miscwork-qb7pd they will still use miniled in 2024?
@@Burbanana Just Josh said in his latest livestream the review will be soon. It's been announced at CES already, just not out yet, you can look at the specs just Google
How about the 2023 G14 RTX 4090? Does it match with these 2 ?
Isn’t the G16 OLED and the G14 mini LED? How does the g16 4080 compared to the 2023 m16 4080?
Both g14 and g16 are using OLED.
I was hoping to be sold but they both sounded med. I know I shouldn't get my hopes up for the new over priced Razers but I'll wait for those reviews
Then once again they'll let you down. Except for the 14" tho. The price seems lower than last year
As a 2022 g14 user, I like the new design but I can wait like 2 more generations because the "upgrades" arent that attracting rn, but if someones buying it as their first gaming laptop or upgrade from a super old laptop, I would say they can wait for sale
@@shinefake48how is the 2022 config holding up? If you play games could you tell how they run and what your laptop specs are? Thanks!
@@WilliamGeorge-wf8dx even tho this is “2 models old” in reality is still a last year spec, because 2024 model is literally the same as 2023 but with new design. Mines the 6700s one. And I game smoothly on all the games no problem. But I’m only annoyed by the Temps. Def would want a coolingpad to help with the temps
@@shinefake48 appreciate the response, temps are an issue you should check out ghelper if you haven’t! Josh Purdy (I believe is his last name) has a video on it and it loots great. Much better than Armoury Crate from what I’ve seen. Also what are your thoughts on the display? It’s funny because when the 2022 model released everyone loved the display but with the new oled i think there is some fomo there lol
In Germany the G16 with 32 gigs of ram and a 4060 is 2.500€ (which is around 2.500$) with taxes included
will the asus flow x13 have a 2024 version?
Buy a s9 plus 😂
I want the G14 4070 so bad. But it's out of stock everywhere in my country.... 😢
is it good for sketch up and vray?
It seems like the Canadian market gets the G16 4070 with 32gb of RAM? It’s so weird why are there so many variants 😩
they send the good versions off for reviews and then they offer Canadians lesser models. They seem to only offer the excess as well, so not all the options just the ones they have too many of....if u check back weeks later they usually then offer a different variant. Lenovo is really the only one who seems to be offering canadians proper options....u can actually buy this year's laptop with the config u want and the config the reviewers r reviewing. That said, I had to return my lenovo choice a legion cause it was terrible since I wanted a laptop experience not a hardware and little else experience.
size and weight of dongle compared to extra size and weight of g16
What's weird is that I have both the 4070 G14 and 4090 G16 versions from BestBuy and none of them have the variable / Dynamic refresh rates llike your models do.
@Matt - I have the same question, I have a the g16 4080 and dont have the DRR option? How did you enable it?
I really want to see this g14 compared to the omen 14
I think the laptops are nice but feel the price is not worth it as the CPUs even the Ultra Core 185 are way slower than last year's i9 ones. Is it correct according to several sources online? Just the AI component only (NPU). If you buy the old ones i9s with the RTX 4060-4090's the GPU itself is as fast as those with the NPUs? Anyone test that for LLM training?
Yes, Intel has a sideways upgrade this year as they move to their new architecture. The only upgrade is ARC graphics in the ultrabook line (laptops with no dGPU laptops).
Nice video, very useful.
How's the performance on battery and plugged in for G16? How it compares to previous generation?
it suck on both
@@ordinaryggI use Intel for Quick Sync and I'm planning to stick with it. I just wanna know if I can expect it to perform 50% capacity of plugged in performance on battery or 90% capacity of plugged in performance on battery.
@@OfficialTRYPlus Intel Quick Sync should be fine as it's CPU/InternalGPU, the most power hungry is GPU
I have both. The G16 fan never goes off and always runs hotter. Definitely worth noting.
The G14 has louder speakers (I know, makes no sense) and has brighter keyboard lighting.
If you don’t care about the bigger screen and want ultimate portability, go G14.
I’m leaning towards the G16 because I’m a sucker for the bigger screen and 240hz, but the fan noise is tough.
G16 with 4080 or 4060/4070?
I also have the G16 4070 and G14 4070 2024 model both here, but indeed the fans never go silent on the G16 and the G14 it does.
Do you also have a different speaker quality on the right side (bottom speaker) of the G16, it sounds less clear then the left side, maybe the speaker is defect on the mine, don't know but the G14 speakers are fine on both sides.
Isn't g14 a really hot laptop?
Can the hinges be tightened with a screwdriver?
How do these compare to m1 pro? I heard M chips unified ram and OS make working with multiple professional software open at the same time way faster. How does intel ultra compare to this
It doesn’t-the fastest mobile x86 processors are clunky compared to the latest apple silicon chips.
Loud, terrible battery life, and now just as unupgradable as Mac’s you’re better off just building a pc or buying a Mac.
@@caydenpo1001 I understand that, but aren't the new intel core ultra chips WAY more efficient now? They seem like a good line up, just think the m1 pro would still be a great competitor and probably cheaper since it's older
@caydenpo1001 First of all, having the ability to replace the SSD is very valuable to me. After the battery, that's the next thing to go. That makes pretty much every modern Mac impossible for me to buy.
Also, x86 isn't necessarily worse than RISC. There's a reason RISC isn't used for high performance desktops; it just doesn't scale well. AMD's desktop CPUs are a beast in that regard, and their U and HS series CPUs are still ahead of Intel's.
@@cameronbosch1213 With the way PC laptops are headed it wouldn’t surprise me if you lose the ability to upgrade the SSD’s in the near future-very sad to watch the pc world evolve backward in that regard.
@@bruh-qi7ue Intel/AMD chips still lag way behind Apple's silicon chips when it comes to battery life and performance on battery. With my MBP, I only need to charge it after 2-3 days which is like 20-25 hours of use and I've almost never heard the fan turn on.
Waiting for omen 14 vs g14 🙌🙌
I’d like to buy the G16 but in France there is only 4050 or 4080/90 ☹️
The laptops are beautiful, which kill me for it but the first thing I look for when I purchase a laptop is how they look. I’m just upset with the price tag and you can’t even upgrade the ram.. also the keyboards are horrendous.
the battery life of g14 ( 10 hour) which you mentioned, is it at native resolution (2.8k) and 120hz refresh rate??
Native resolution 2.8k at 60hz
Tests suggest 7-8 hours SOT on light tasks at 60% brightness. As soon as you hit the higher wattage workflows, that falls. For video streaming, you should get closer to 10 hours SOT.
8:06 How does it perform unplugged? How many usable hours do you get unplugged?
only MacBook provides real uncompromising performance on battery, all PC laptops' performance suffer quite a bit on battery
@@kingcu I have a Mac and i think i am still going to go for a Mac unless these guys figure out how to last longer.
I’m happy with my 2022 G14 6700 with 2TB 40Gb
white is more expensive? psh, where I live (Canada!) they don't even offer it unless you're getting the lowest-end G16
the 16" screen sized laptops are not that big these days, they evolved a lot..
I think the real deal breaker is the ram size specially that it is not upgradable.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:13 *💼 The ASUS Zephyrus G14 is more portable and lighter, making it a better choice for those prioritizing mobility.*
00:25 *🚀 For higher-end GPU options (RTX 4080 or 4090), the G16 is the only choice; the G14 offers the RTX 4070 at a similar price point but with more RAM.*
01:06 *🧱 RAM is soldered onto the motherboard, making future upgrades impossible and making a higher initial RAM capacity (32GB) more desirable.*
02:00 *🔌 Port selection is mostly identical between models, with a notable difference in USB standards due to the processor type and the presence of a full-size SD card slot on the G16 versus a micro SD on the G14.*
03:36 *🎨 Color choice affects price differently for each model, with the white G16 costing $200 more and the white G14 being slightly cheaper than its black counterpart.*
04:16 *⌨️ The G16 offers more wrist room for typing, though the keyboard feel and travel distance are the same for both models.*
05:12 *🎵 Both laptops feature six speakers with impressive sound quality, adding value to the multimedia experience.*
05:54 *🖥️ The G16 has a larger and higher refresh rate display (240Hz) compared to the G14 (120Hz), making it more suitable for gaming.*
07:15 *💻 Performance comparison is complex due to different configurations, with the G16 model discussed having a more powerful GPU and CPU but similar RAM speeds.*
10:32 *🔧 Most components are soldered onto the motherboard, limiting repairability and upgrades, except for the Wi-Fi card.*
11:28 *🎮 The choice between the G14 and G16 depends on user needs, with the G16 being preferable for those prioritizing gaming and video creation on a larger display, and the G14 being more suited for frequent travelers seeking portability without sacrificing performance.*
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Well done
what about battery life
For Canada, there is G16 with Intel 9 ultra, 1tb and 32gb of RAM. One with a 4060 at $2599 and a 4070 at $2999. Is it worth the $400 CAD difference?
no, since 4070 is undervolted but you might pick the amd version
@@nikoace2 both of these are priced at 2599 CAD. AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS/1TB SSD/32GB RAM/GeForce RTX 4060 vs Intel Core Ultra 9 185H/1TB SSD/32GB RAM/GeForce RTX 4060
@@johnathonwilson6027 still get amd version
Hey there is a big mistake at 10:36 , you can actually change SSD In G14.
Yes we know I mention this in my video. You also have an extra slot for two drives
@@MatthewMoniz Hello ! Thanks for the review ! I can't see the extra m2 slot in the G14, where is it ?
glad to see the sticker guy still has a job and by the looks of it got a promotion
they should actually properly launch these... Only a few countries have them and the ones that do are almost all out of stock
These should not be sent to reviewers.... none of these laptops you can buy.. you can only buy the lower spec ones. So this whole review is useless or irrelevant. Its just a wwoooo look at me .. i have something you never will.
@@highlanderc Yes, my bugbear as well. With Apple, YT creators that need pro laptops buy 8GB machines (the most popular) and go off on one because there is not enough RAM (for them). But it is excellent for the algorithms. Conversely, most Windows laptops are sponsored as they get loaners that are usually the highest spec, and sometimes even spec that you will never be able to buy. It seems that MS and Window's OEMs have YT locked in.
M'dude, if I spend this amount of money on a laptop of this caliber, I ain't planning on changing it in the next 4 to 5 years, not 2.
Here in the EU, all models come with 32 gb ram. Which you would expect considering the G16 RTX 4070 goes for as high as 3k euros lmfao. Definitely overpriced but I'm still seriously considering it or maybe I'll wait for a year end sale if I'm patient enough but by then I''ll already be thinking about wanting to wait for what they will have in store for us at CES 2025 😭
£4000 for the 4090 in the UK! Also, all come with 32GB of RAM. As you say, the higher prices means they can go base 32GB as the margins must be high.
Does the G16 come in silver as well??
I chose the G14, love it. If you get a Zephyrus, no matter what you choose, remember you will have to tweak it a bit because it gets really hot!
can g14 be charged by a usb charger?
this may be a regional thing, but when i look up the G16 4070 i have 2 options either 16 or 32gb of ram
Me too bro for my g16 i have 32gb
@@_White_Hole_ which market are you in? Mine only shows 16gb :(
1:52 lol!
got my 4060/ ryzen 9 7940 hs g14 for $800. 165hz 2560 x 1600/ ddr5 16gb ram. desktop also running 4060/ i7-13700f 32gb ram so was really going for something that could keep up.. no dissapointments other than maybe the temps getting pretty high
If I had money I would say to ASUS...can I have a 15 inch version in white without soldered RAM and SSDs? In orange please.
So there is no more m16?
Which one you choose G14 (2024) or the new HP Oman 14?
According to other reviews that I've seen, it is not even a competition. G14 wins in every category, the Omen can be a better deal if it is significantly cheaper (I would say 300-400 usd less).
Where can we buy those units you are reviewing?
Does it matter on the 2023 vs 2024 to you?
16gb, much like 8gb in regular laptops, is absolute criminal in a gaming laptop. I've been able to make it crawl just running a single Excel instance, outrageous
How about G16 with AMD and 4080🫣
Silent mode: 42db, is that a joke? Silent is 25db and below, like the MacBook Pro, basically you don’t hear the fan at all, that’s the definition of silent
does their price litteraly blew up??
oled should only be for TVs and phones. the taskbar and your most used app's menu bar are going to get burned to the screen in 2 years
OLED is great for gaming and media watching, but office staff and some pro users will need to go to extra lengths to hide the taskbar and top app menu; otherwise, they will suffer burn-in, as you say.
@@andyH_England yup. Even my mom’s iphone that’s definitely powered on less than a laptop got the home screen burned in
Any way to buy these in India?
As everywhere it's unavailable.
They haven't launched yet. The G16 has been unveiled, but hasn't gone on sale yet. It starts at 1.85 lakh, but sadly that is without the OLED screen which is quite disappointing in 2024. The G14 hasn't launched yet. Probably May.
You could look at the Omen Transcend 14 though
very neat laptops!
Hi Mat. Quick one. Which is best for CGI 3D rendering
Between
HP omen 16 2022 with ryzen 7 6800h & rx 6650m
And
Asus G14 2022 with Ryzen 9 6900hs & rx 6700s?
Stuck between making a decision, please help. Thanks
how is battery life with the previous gen? g14
both are so-so with wobbly screens, the previous models were much better
Can someone find me a link to but the g16 4080 in dubai for 2700$
They have a 4060/4070 2024 g14 with 32 gigs of ram.
Depends on what region you live in. In the US you can only get 32 gigs of ram with the 4070. 4060 only has 16.
So we change laptops every year now?
No why would we do that?
I hate this ISOCPEUR font they use to label keys
What model do you recommend for coding and video design?
I just got the G14. The 2024 model. That thing is light and powerful. The speakers sounds like the 14" MacBook Pro and the screen is so nice. It chews through videos when working on it. The MacBook Pro M3 Pro is the only thing that beats it for video editing.
The G14 makes for sense for my use case, and the extra RAM is icing on the cake.
Lolz.. i cant afford either one but that doesnt mean that i wont watch the video with complete and undivided attention!😅
My Asus zephyrus g14 crashed after a year. Probably due to a bricked kernel update... But then I guess a power shortage happened
My question is, is it possible to evaluate reliability of any laptop brand? Is dell/Lenovo better on that fron my experience with both of those is good
Disappointing step backwards new 2024 G14 models 👎 can’t even beat my 2023 G14 with RTX4090 on sale right now for $2799 👍
I dunno how you can be impressed with that audio quality, it's really bad if that's how it sound irl
the wobble is too dangerous. I imagine even students with their resilient eyesight on not so sturdy smaller desks and just lapdesks and all that r gonna get annoyed by it. This is so frustrating at this point I'm back to looking at last year....not that canadians r able to buy anything from this year anyways -_-. Where are the other laptops they got to exist!!!!! It's going to take months for just the flow series from last year to be sold in Canada.....imagine waiting a year to buy the thing reviewed last year, insane. why is this so hawwwd buying laptops used to be so simple, they'd be better every year in every way....now it's just ughhhhh
Simply, G16 if you want better gaming experience, bigger screen, better cooling
Too much screen wobbling on both these models. I don't want to pay premium price if I'm going to see that wobbling. I'll wait for next year.
Best buy only having the 16gb 4070 g16 hurts my soul
That is how they get the prices down for BestBuy.
Great review as always! i got the zenbook duo 2024 120hz oled, ultra 7 155H & 16gb ram few days ago.. in the MyAsus system app i put 8gb allocation to the arc GPU & the fan speed option to performance mode with the AC power and was able to play all games on high setting with few tweaks in graphics setting of the games which i couldn't believe a laptop without RTX can even do lol
How does this stack up against Macbook 14 inch in terms of battery like browsing, multitasking a bit, coding, etc?
Sadly they dont do 15inch laptops
Tx Matt
16GB on the G16 is pretty lame when the G14 comes with 32.