Probably one of my favourite tanks in the game, good gun and good frontal armour. Able to swing about pretty well so the traverse arc isn't too big a deal imo.
The main problem with the Hetzer is that only the front has good armor. The top armor can't even withstand a rifle and the side armor barely can. If you expose your side at all, a 50 cal or larger round will shred your ammo. It's still one of my favorite tank destroyers, but that's mostly because it's goofy, and I love goofy tanks.
Oh I see you have the IV/70a! I love that thing, folks don't give it enough love because there is a ton of places where you can put it with a rock or log blocking its weak spot that makes it damn hard to kill.
I can pop off with this thing in Arcade, as I took on 5+ enemies one time, taking all of them out, before finally getting surrounded and finished off. So awesome. And then Gaijin said I couldn't have fun with Germany anymore and kept me from getting 7+ kills every game. I only got up to 2 or three per game.
One should keep in mind that War Thunder game-play rarely results in vehicles like Hetzers and Stugs being employed in the same manner which they were actually used in combat. Hetzer is an ambush vehicle that would take a concealed position facing the enemy advance avenues with it's excellent sloped frontal armor. A field report from 1944 documented an engagement where a group of Hetzers destroyed 60 T-34s without losing a single vehicle.
I love the barrel of this things cannon. Very thick and stubby looking but long enough to be more graceful than say, Pz. III. I find theyre quite easy to kill with cannon fire from aircraft
Smoke shells have been broken since the most recent update, I run 88mm rounds in the Maus and then just have like 30 smoke rounds for the 75, its so scummy doing critical damage then throwing a smoke in their face whilst they reload 😂
quite surprised that this vehicle is loved. the instability when braking is what messes up every shot of mine together with encountering a lot of players that know where to shoot makes this one of my most hated vehicles of this tier
The JP4 used to be a lot better than the Hetzer. It used to have insane left and right traverse so nothing but a 85mm could pen it and then it was usually absorbed by the transmission. These days with the new pen calculation the armor of the JP4 is worth a lot less and it lost the traverse to the sides, but gained 2° depression. Yet still the JP4 is just not worth it anymore. So sad. It was my top favorite tank.
In Ground AB the only version of Poland and Winter Poland around is the one with all three caps in the town... So it does still exist, just not in RB anymore.
Jagdpanzer 4 used to have bigger horizontal gun angle, then it was nerfed. When angling to the left, it pretty much became unpennable by anything. Even at 4.7 in full uptier. I guess it was moved to 4.3 because of that, and also some OP russian guns being introduced at that BR.
@@zelands not skill issue, Even D5T and 76 Shermans can't pen jagdpanzer4 from the front reliably...i know this game all too well because of my 5K hours and 7 years
Nice vid tnxs. @5:22 Ya that map with the three town center control points is still a thing. I hardly ever see that map you are on with those control points spread out like that. Now was this a new change on a recent update?
It does go off. Just in the air, it's been like this for a week or two and it can be pretty frustrating trying to cover a position for yourself or denying the enemy kill zones and the shell bounces off the ground and exploded in the air like a fucking flare!
Hetzer should be 4.0 - why? 20mm side get overmatched by everything, even when slightly angled 8mm roof gets penetrated by any aircraft on that BR (its basically a open top vehicle) You can kill the Hetzer with any kind of HE from the front But it wont be reduced in BR because would still struggle to kill it, like with the KV-1B/E eventhough its quite easy.
@@eviltin182 What is it then? Doesn't happen to me or anybody else. Never seen it before either. Only thing I seen like that before is Ground Arcade and Air matches and its red not black.
It's a situational vehicle, even more so than your average TD. You have to keep the enemies directly in front of you, and really you should be hulled down. The side armor is so thin you can't really show any of it. Given how clustered maps are, heavily favoring Call of Duty speedball style city maps, mobility is the meta and the hetzer is seriously lacking which is why I would pick the jag 8/10 times over the hetzer.
I mean, this tank is quite bad in HP because its just a panzer 38(t) hull with a huge casemate on top. Now imagine slapping like, 20 tons in a interwar light tank hull
5:40 WDYM? Gaijin brought the old map back some weeks ago because everybody hated the new map. After they introduced this crappy new map the old map was still available up to BR2.0, currently you can play the old map even at 6.7. I'm talking about arcade, maybe it's different in realistic.
You mention there is premium version of this with panther cannon? Lookiing at german prems right now and Im not seeing it. Anyone know what vehicle is being referred ?
I love this thing! I've loved the Hetzer since the early days of WoT (legacy console), long before I ever heard about War Thunder. I will say that its current BR is perfect where it is: any lower and you will be an immortal god among mice; any higher and everything would breathe through your armor. Even when the lower glacis gets hit, the transmission usually eats all of it from my experience. Also from experience, the biggest flaw that I have noticed is the 3-for-1 shish-kabob seating arrangement that plagues the early German TDs. My favorite thing to do in the Hetzer is to hide in bomb-craters that are in large flat areas and are just deep enough to only have the barrel and up exposed, then troll-kill Russian tanks because they can't hit me with their "anti-depressant cannons".
whenever i see this in my jumbo i just ram it to the point that some parts break and to the point that it’s lower front plate becomes flat infront of my cannon it’s so funny
Why take APCR when you can take HE? Have you not heard of overpressure... 🙃 APCR is practically useless because the damage is piss-poor and the penetration hardly an improvement.
![Jagdpanzer IV - BETTER Than The Hetzer [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p63WlY8qm5o/mqdefault.jpg)
![Jagdpanzer IV - BETTER Than The Hetzer [War Thunder]](/img/tr.png)
![Stock to Spaded - Pz.III M - Should You Buy/Spade It? Highest BR Panzer III [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9-u5NneaP9E/mqdefault.jpg)
![War Thunder: Germany - Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer Gameplay [1440p 60FPS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6qr-GPZIhhs/mqdefault.jpg)
Probably one of my favourite tanks in the game, good gun and good frontal armour. Able to swing about pretty well so the traverse arc isn't too big a deal imo.
defiantly in my top 10 vehicles of WT, using the reverse to swing makes it turn pretty much on a dime
It's armor simply works, I have problems facing it with the breda 90mm
but can be killed if you shoot under the plate 💀
Frontal armour works unless you fight russians with their aphe with stupid angled performance.
i havnt had a single bad battle in this thing. one of my top 3 favourites in game.
I had loads of fun in that thing very satisfying to find low levels not knowing what to do
That Poland variant you're describing still exists, at least in AB
The main problem with the Hetzer is that only the front has good armor. The top armor can't even withstand a rifle and the side armor barely can. If you expose your side at all, a 50 cal or larger round will shred your ammo.
It's still one of my favorite tank destroyers, but that's mostly because it's goofy, and I love goofy tanks.
Oh I see you have the IV/70a! I love that thing, folks don't give it enough love because there is a ton of places where you can put it with a rock or log blocking its weak spot that makes it damn hard to kill.
5:30 I didnt knew the map was gone...
I also really liked it.
small poland is in arcade
Still exists in arcade
I can pop off with this thing in Arcade, as I took on 5+ enemies one time, taking all of them out, before finally getting surrounded and finished off. So awesome.
And then Gaijin said I couldn't have fun with Germany anymore and kept me from getting 7+ kills every game. I only got up to 2 or three per game.
😂😅
One should keep in mind that War Thunder game-play rarely results in vehicles like Hetzers and Stugs being employed in the same manner which they were actually used in combat. Hetzer is an ambush vehicle that would take a concealed position facing the enemy advance avenues with it's excellent sloped frontal armor. A field report from 1944 documented an engagement where a group of Hetzers destroyed 60 T-34s without losing a single vehicle.
I love the barrel of this things cannon. Very thick and stubby looking but long enough to be more graceful than say, Pz. III. I find theyre quite easy to kill with cannon fire from aircraft
“Last match i had no deaths, until i died of course” 😆
I think hamburgers and cheeseburgers work well with fries
Fish Fingers?
Wait till you find out about soft drinks with the duo
As an inhabitant of the country that invented fries, I agree
Smoke shells have been broken since the most recent update, I run 88mm rounds in the Maus and then just have like 30 smoke rounds for the 75, its so scummy doing critical damage then throwing a smoke in their face whilst they reload 😂
13:25
"Uhhh thats not good... not good FOR HIM!"
*WHIFFS SHOT _ENTIRELY_ *
"... or me"
quite surprised that this vehicle is loved. the instability when braking is what messes up every shot of mine together with encountering a lot of players that know where to shoot makes this one of my most hated vehicles of this tier
i mean.. you're supposed to rely on your superior armor at range, if you do that you're p much invincible at this tier
One of my favorite tanks in WT. It is difficult to play when you are new to the game, though.
The JP4 used to be a lot better than the Hetzer. It used to have insane left and right traverse so nothing but a 85mm could pen it and then it was usually absorbed by the transmission. These days with the new pen calculation the armor of the JP4 is worth a lot less and it lost the traverse to the sides, but gained 2° depression. Yet still the JP4 is just not worth it anymore. So sad. It was my top favorite tank.
I've noticed the lack of assists too lately.
In Ground AB the only version of Poland and Winter Poland around is the one with all three caps in the town... So it does still exist, just not in RB anymore.
Jagdpanzer 4 used to have bigger horizontal gun angle, then it was nerfed. When angling to the left, it pretty much became unpennable by anything. Even at 4.7 in full uptier. I guess it was moved to 4.3 because of that, and also some OP russian guns being introduced at that BR.
Whole germany is under BRd, Jagdpanzer IV could easily be 5.0 if it was in other nations....but german players have room temp IQ...
@@interpl6089 Skill issue indeed.
@@zelands not skill issue, Even D5T and 76 Shermans can't pen jagdpanzer4 from the front reliably...i know this game all too well because of my 5K hours and 7 years
Nice vid tnxs. @5:22 Ya that map with the three town center control points is still a thing. I hardly ever see that map you are on with those control points spread out like that. Now was this a new change on a recent update?
I really need to use this tank now
Arcade still only has the 3 condensed point version of this map that I've ever seen, including at hetzer BR.
I have had the same problem where sometimes the smoke shells will not go off.
It does go off. Just in the air, it's been like this for a week or two and it can be pretty frustrating trying to cover a position for yourself or denying the enemy kill zones and the shell bounces off the ground and exploded in the air like a fucking flare!
I’m pretty sure you’ve already made a video on it, but can you play more STRV103 premium doorstop
Hetzer should be 4.0 - why?
20mm side get overmatched by everything, even when slightly angled
8mm roof gets penetrated by any aircraft on that BR (its basically a open top vehicle)
You can kill the Hetzer with any kind of HE from the front
But it wont be reduced in BR because would still struggle to kill it, like with the KV-1B/E eventhough its quite easy.
If you put your mouse over the cannon in the hangar it will tell you the traverse angles 🙂
Jagdpanzer IV -> Pretty good
Hetzer -> Not so much
At 12:20 what’s up with the black squares telling you where the plane just spawned in though?
Jesus, great catch.
@@eviltin182 What is it then? Doesn't happen to me or anybody else. Never seen it before either. Only thing I seen like that before is Ground Arcade and Air matches and its red not black.
Its the best casemate tank for its BR i love this thing
Until Lower Plate pen...
Hey Tankenstein, could up play the KV 1, another lowtier legend.
They repurposed panzer 38 frames into these. I think Czech made them after the war too
5:50 it still exists in arcade
Then im gonna play some arcade
It's a situational vehicle, even more so than your average TD. You have to keep the enemies directly in front of you, and really you should be hulled down. The side armor is so thin you can't really show any of it. Given how clustered maps are, heavily favoring Call of Duty speedball style city maps, mobility is the meta and the hetzer is seriously lacking which is why I would pick the jag 8/10 times over the hetzer.
I mean, this tank is quite bad in HP because its just a panzer 38(t) hull with a huge casemate on top. Now imagine slapping like, 20 tons in a interwar light tank hull
Hetzer... my beloved
what a coincidence, german people know whats going on rn in the streamer/youtuber space in germany :)
*"VOLKSVERHETZUNG!"*
The old version of Poland is the standard in arcade
All chemical shells seem to bounce off of terrain more
5:40 WDYM? Gaijin brought the old map back some weeks ago because everybody hated the new map. After they introduced this crappy new map the old map was still available up to BR2.0, currently you can play the old map even at 6.7. I'm talking about arcade, maybe it's different in realistic.
10:34 thats literally the job of bushes on tanks 😅
Remember, the t in 38t stands for Czech
Turret traverse xD in hetzer and JG pz IV
You mention there is premium version of this with panther cannon? Lookiing at german prems right now and Im not seeing it. Anyone know what vehicle is being referred ?
The Jagdpanzer IV/A is taller version of the Jagdpanzer IV, but with the Panther's 75mm
I love this thing! I've loved the Hetzer since the early days of WoT (legacy console), long before I ever heard about War Thunder.
I will say that its current BR is perfect where it is: any lower and you will be an immortal god among mice; any higher and everything would breathe through your armor.
Even when the lower glacis gets hit, the transmission usually eats all of it from my experience. Also from experience, the biggest flaw that I have noticed is the 3-for-1 shish-kabob seating arrangement that plagues the early German TDs.
My favorite thing to do in the Hetzer is to hide in bomb-craters that are in large flat areas and are just deep enough to only have the barrel and up exposed, then troll-kill Russian tanks because they can't hit me with their "anti-depressant cannons".
It has the power to take on a maus
Tutel!
that version of the map is still in arcade
*happy hetzer noises*
Please play Bradley
where is tankenstein from? cuz i saw him have like slovak camo on the mig yk and now this czech on jagd haha
Pretty sure he's American, can see him driving about in some of his older videos reviewing cars.
hello love your vids
also 1st
This is just a box with tracks and a gun ( 90 percent of tank destroyers are like that)
What the Hetz is this thing?
Is it a hetzer or a dumpster? Does it have a canon? Then it is a hetzer if not it’s a dumpster.
How can i play this tank good?
I suck with that vehicle.
Tarkenstein when using useless tank in german main : 💪💪💪💪
Me when using Tiger tank and go angle every single second since spawning : 🤡🤡💀💀💀
5:28 wait that map is gone?
Yeah I was wondering too when I played it, i was thinking: where did the smaller map go but yeah sucks.
@@Dutch-McLarenJk82- someone else said the map is still in arcade
whenever i see this in my jumbo i just ram it to the point that some parts break and to the point that it’s lower front plate becomes flat infront of my cannon
it’s so funny
I mess with it since its fun to bully 😊
Why take APCR when you can take HE? Have you not heard of overpressure... 🙃
APCR is practically useless because the damage is piss-poor and the penetration hardly an improvement.
Dude only showed down/sliight downtier matches ... yo .... come on let me see it face some 4.3, 5.0 tanks! :c
tutel
TUTEL!
🇨🇿
Fun fact, it’s built on the Pz.35
38. It’s in the name ! 😂
A poor copy of the Merasal
DONE WITH THIS GAME-SPEND MY MONEY ON BETTER GAMES- THIS GAME IS CRAP- MONEY PIT-WASTE OF MONEY
that's why you stop at tier 3. After tier 3 the game stops being fun