Thanks for pulling apart your new battery. Friend of mine was looking at buying 4 x 200ah kings to power his offgrid property. Not sure now. Kings was a massive disrupter in 4x4 accessories market. I remember how expensive awnings from arb use to be. The quality is not perfect but it was able to kit out the weekender 4x4 enthusiasts. I have had 3 awnings in 13 years from them. I don’t care if I break them.
I have several friends that run the King 300 Ah batteries and they can't fault them. I have three Kings 120 Ah batteries and they have preformed perfectly so I would recommend them. I have found with all the batteries I have pulled down and tested, the smaller batteries regardless of the brand have been the least quality.
Oh dear, woeful quality control there, was disappointed with nearly all aspects of this battery except for the case. Was looking for a battery this size to mount on its side underneath my Delica....a very hard PASS on this one. Even if I drilled a hole in the top of the case and filled the battery with resin for a bit more vibration resistance (5km of corrugations and I think this battery would be toast), I still wouldn't contemplate this one....THANKS Glen for the work and info passed on here. I hope Kings are watching and take heed here. 🤠😎
Kings gear is ok and their support is top notch. I think they realise their manufacturing teams may not be 100% quality but they always seem happy to exchange so for ppl working on smaller budgets i reckon kings is great. They can sponsor my channel anytime 😂
Yes I can't fault their customer service. Around 5 years ago I had a generator fail with under 20 hours of use and Kings were top notch with their return / refund process. I am going to do some tests on this battery, gather some results and contact Kings with my finding so it can better help with their product quality control.
Finally got to do the most important test of all with one of my 60Ah Kings. I used a 12V Rovin kettle to boil water for a mug of coffee. Used about 45Wh in 20min to bring it to 85degC where it cutoff. Passed with flying colours. Going to replace the cig plug with mini Anderson 30A connecters (or Powerpole if you can't find them) to reduce voltage drop but otherwise the battery is excellent value for small lightweight jobs.
I do love this little battery for size so be interesting on the capacity test results I get. Either way I am still going to use the battery, be great to see how damaged cells preform longer term.
Lovely ep and tear down of the kings 60amp, How good is the timing of this I was looking at buying one of theses 60 amp batteries for my 3,7m tinny to run my GPS combo thanks for sharing, will wait and see wait you think of it,
Not bad - the strapping could be improved to reduce stress on the cell, but the thermistor isn’t really an issue - bonding to the cell make stuff all difference.
Geez us ,I took delivery of the same battery last week to run my small electric Water Snake trolling motor and for overnight camping trips for my Kings 20 L Escape fridge . It ran the fridge for 30 hours at 28 C ambient temp , but to be fair when the fridge got to the set temp 1 C I filled the fridge up with room temp cans of beer and other stuff . It took nearly 5 hours to get back down to 1C with the compressor running all the time for that period , so to be fair, it probably would have run a lot longer if the beer had been cold when placed in the fridge . I was going to buy another one of these batteries but thin I will wait until I see your next video , especially the response from Kings . As an aside I also purchased a I-tech Life PO4 50 S to be be set up inside my vehicle with a 25 A DC - DC charger . Upon hooking up the itech to said fridge with every thing cold ,it has been running for 19 hours and is already down to 13.01 V . Battery was charged to 13.45 V before use ,but went down to under 13.2 V in 3 hours ,doesn’t seem right to me . Thank for listening 👍
Going to do a capacity test today and see what it comes back at. I will be running this battery, testing it and seeing how it preforms with damaged cells, over a time period. So in a way, it's kinda good I did get a dud as it gives me the opportunity to see how damaged cells preform over time. I also do plan to test some iTechworld batteries in the future.
Calculating remaining battery capacity using Volts is flawed - you should be running through a shunt if you are really interested in capacity used/remaining.
@@einfelder8262 Thanks for the information . According to my chart 13.4 V is % 90 capacity 13.5 is % 99 capacity . I changed over to the I tech battery when the voltage went down to 12.8 V or 20% according to the chart . All readings were done by a Kick Ass constant battery monitor and also checked by 2 seperate multi meters which were very close to each other in the readings . Any information you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Both batteries are brand new . Cheers
That could be a good thing, the Kings shop can be sooo addictive. When I go in there, I want everything on the floor :) and the worst part is their new store is only a few minutes for where I work in Perth.
Just a tip for your videos, instead of telling us what you're going to do, just do it. We can see what's happening. For example, im going to move the battery over to this table because of the reflections. It's irrelevant to the video and wastes the viewers time. Just cut those sections out when editing and you will reduce the video a good bit. It will make your content easier to watch.
People on about quality.. Its a 60ah battery for sub $200 at times.. Everything is made to a price point, go spend double at itech world or triple at renogy
@@einfelder8262 Its hardly rubbish mate, the fact the strapping is squeezing the guts out is proof the bloody thing could possibly burst into flames. I have been playing around using and abusing lithium batteries for a cuppla decades and have personally experienced the dangers of batteries many times.
@@ScatManAust You are seriously confused. You say it's hardly rubbish and in the next breath you say it could burst into flames, which to me proves it's rubbish. You sure have been playing with something for a couple of decades.
I think that battery is great value for money and I would buy another one again however, having damaged cells is not acceptable regardless of the price. I do plan on getting some iTechworld batteries to test in the future, see how they stack up.
These are rubbish assembled by the lowest paid worker in China. The cells are likely to be C grade or worse, or even second hand, which is why the cheap thin aluminium busbars are heat welded over the screw terminals. I can't remember a worse quality or workmanship battery teardown.
Most batteries are welded terminals now, hardly anyone is using screw terminals anymore which is a pain as it makes it harder to rob cells from batteries. Not sure on the grade cells that have been used in this battery so I can't make any judgment on the cells. I'm doing a capacity test on the battery so we see what it comes back as.
Most companies would be resellers, so possibly wouldn't know what is inside. A card or barrier on the outside could stop the strapping deforming or even ripping the outside cells. Had you used that battery? The deformation looked to be greater than 5mm..
The battery is only one week old and hasn't realy done any work. Just been charged up and put on the 12 volt system running the cabin water pumps. It hasn't done any proper cycling yet.
If your not a "techy guy" then how can you comment on such things as the temperature sensor etc. To me the quality and build seem fine. Take anything out of it's protective casing and it will look exposed and vulnerable.
WTF - you think the quality and build are fine???? You need to get out more. These are rubbish assembled by the lowest paid worker in China. The cells are likely to be C grade or worse, or even second hand, which is why the cheap thin aluminium busbars are heat welded over the screw terminals. I can't remember a worse quality or workmanship battery teardown.
Really???? You bought a cheap as shite battery and you expected something different. Kings are well aware of how the batteries are manufactured as they are manufactured to a price. Seems to me you just want your mug on a you tube clip. Info was of no value to anyone>>Stop wasting your own time and ours...
Seriously dude, if you think Kings gear is rubbish, which some people do and are welcome to their opinion. Why did you even click on this video showing Kings gear when you dislike Kings ? Sounds like you like trolling TH-cam to have something to bitch about which is also a waist of your time. Either way, thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for pulling apart your new battery. Friend of mine was looking at buying 4 x 200ah kings to power his offgrid property. Not sure now. Kings was a massive disrupter in 4x4 accessories market. I remember how expensive awnings from arb use to be. The quality is not perfect but it was able to kit out the weekender 4x4 enthusiasts. I have had 3 awnings in 13 years from them. I don’t care if I break them.
I have several friends that run the King 300 Ah batteries and they can't fault them. I have three Kings 120 Ah batteries and they have preformed perfectly so I would recommend them.
I have found with all the batteries I have pulled down and tested, the smaller batteries regardless of the brand have been the least quality.
@@gibo1971 Did your friend still go with the Kings Battery’s ?
Oh dear, woeful quality control there, was disappointed with nearly all aspects of this battery except for the case. Was looking for a battery this size to mount on its side underneath my Delica....a very hard PASS on this one. Even if I drilled a hole in the top of the case and filled the battery with resin for a bit more vibration resistance (5km of corrugations and I think this battery would be toast), I still wouldn't contemplate this one....THANKS Glen for the work and info passed on here. I hope Kings are watching and take heed here. 🤠😎
For the price it is still good value for money but damage cells is a concern. More testing is needed with how damaged cells preform long term.
Omg I nearly choked on my coffee 😂😂😂
Warranty is safe cos of Kings knife. 😂😂😂
Interesting vid mate. Cheers.
Kings gear is ok and their support is top notch. I think they realise their manufacturing teams may not be 100% quality but they always seem happy to exchange so for ppl working on smaller budgets i reckon kings is great.
They can sponsor my channel anytime 😂
Yes I can't fault their customer service. Around 5 years ago I had a generator fail with under 20 hours of use and Kings were top notch with their return / refund process.
I am going to do some tests on this battery, gather some results and contact Kings with my finding so it can better help with their product quality control.
Good onya Glen very interesting, I look forward to your next vid update.
Finally got to do the most important test of all with one of my 60Ah Kings. I used a 12V Rovin kettle to boil water for a mug of coffee. Used about 45Wh in 20min to bring it to 85degC where it cutoff. Passed with flying colours. Going to replace the cig plug with mini Anderson 30A connecters (or Powerpole if you can't find them) to reduce voltage drop but otherwise the battery is excellent value for small lightweight jobs.
I do love this little battery for size so be interesting on the capacity test results I get. Either way I am still going to use the battery, be great to see how damaged cells preform longer term.
@@TheSimpleLivingAussie Ditched the cig plug with fuse and it improved Watts from 125W to 141W so it now boils quicker.😁
Not lithium Ion, but lithium iron phosphate
Thank you for a great video and what appears to be a fault with the battery and your thoughts on it
Lovely ep and tear down of the kings 60amp, How good is the timing of this I was looking at buying one of theses 60 amp batteries for my 3,7m tinny to run my GPS combo thanks for sharing, will wait and see wait you think of it,
Not bad - the strapping could be improved to reduce stress on the cell, but the thermistor isn’t really an issue - bonding to the cell make stuff all difference.
Yeah the thermistor would probably be fine how they had it, I just like them fixed a little more securely to the cells.
Geez us ,I took delivery of the same battery last week to run my small electric Water Snake trolling motor and for overnight camping trips for my Kings 20 L Escape fridge . It ran the fridge for 30 hours at 28 C ambient temp , but to be fair when the fridge got to the set temp 1 C I filled the fridge up with room temp cans of beer and other stuff . It took nearly 5 hours to get back down to 1C with the compressor running all the time for that period , so to be fair, it probably would have run a lot longer if the beer had been cold when placed in the fridge . I was going to buy another one of these batteries but thin I will wait until I see your next video , especially the response from Kings . As an aside I also purchased a I-tech Life PO4 50 S to be be set up inside my vehicle with a 25 A DC - DC charger . Upon hooking up the itech to said fridge with every thing cold ,it has been running for 19 hours and is already down to 13.01 V . Battery was charged to 13.45 V before use ,but went down to under 13.2 V in 3 hours ,doesn’t seem right to me . Thank for listening 👍
Going to do a capacity test today and see what it comes back at. I will be running this battery, testing it and seeing how it preforms with damaged cells, over a time period.
So in a way, it's kinda good I did get a dud as it gives me the opportunity to see how damaged cells preform over time. I also do plan to test some iTechworld batteries in the future.
Calculating remaining battery capacity using Volts is flawed - you should be running through a shunt if you are really interested in capacity used/remaining.
@@einfelder8262 Thanks for the information . According to my chart 13.4 V is % 90 capacity 13.5 is % 99 capacity . I changed over to the I tech battery when the voltage went down to 12.8 V or 20% according to the chart . All readings were done by a Kick Ass constant battery monitor and also checked by 2 seperate multi meters which were very close to each other in the readings . Any information you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Both batteries are brand new . Cheers
Gotta get me a king’s knife lol …..Got a 60 AH so will be looking forward to the next video .
Im so glad I don't know where the kings shop is. 😂
That could be a good thing, the Kings shop can be sooo addictive.
When I go in there, I want everything on the floor :) and the worst part is their new store is only a few minutes for where I work in Perth.
Use google translate on your phone on the BMS
it just says 60amp continuous discharge
Just a tip for your videos, instead of telling us what you're going to do, just do it. We can see what's happening. For example, im going to move the battery over to this table because of the reflections. It's irrelevant to the video and wastes the viewers time. Just cut those sections out when editing and you will reduce the video a good bit. It will make your content easier to watch.
Thanks mate, will do.
People on about quality.. Its a 60ah battery for sub $200 at times.. Everything is made to a price point, go spend double at itech world or triple at renogy
Its not a cheap battery if it is prone to burn down your house or caravan and you and your family in it
Renogy is not half as much again as Itech. Renogy 50AH $299, Itech 54AH $499. Get your facts straight before posting rubbish.
@@einfelder8262 Its hardly rubbish mate, the fact the strapping is squeezing the guts out is proof the bloody thing could possibly burst into flames.
I have been playing around using and abusing lithium batteries for a cuppla decades and have personally experienced the dangers of batteries many times.
@@ScatManAust You are seriously confused. You say it's hardly rubbish and in the next breath you say it could burst into flames, which to me proves it's rubbish. You sure have been playing with something for a couple of decades.
I think that battery is great value for money and I would buy another one again however, having damaged cells is not acceptable regardless of the price.
I do plan on getting some iTechworld batteries to test in the future, see how they stack up.
Dongguan Weimei Guanze Electronic Technology Company.
Manufactured in China
Bloody Chinese made lol 😂they don’t even care
These are rubbish assembled by the lowest paid worker in China. The cells are likely to be C grade or worse, or even second hand, which is why the cheap thin aluminium busbars are heat welded over the screw terminals. I can't remember a worse quality or workmanship battery teardown.
Most batteries are welded terminals now, hardly anyone is using screw terminals anymore which is a pain as it makes it harder to rob cells from batteries.
Not sure on the grade cells that have been used in this battery so I can't make any judgment on the cells. I'm doing a capacity test on the battery so we see what it comes back as.
Most companies would be resellers, so possibly wouldn't know what is inside. A card or barrier on the outside could stop the strapping deforming or even ripping the outside cells. Had you used that battery? The deformation looked to be greater than 5mm..
The battery is only one week old and hasn't realy done any work. Just been charged up and put on the 12 volt system running the cabin water pumps. It hasn't done any proper cycling yet.
@@TheSimpleLivingAussie Hopefully they will be a responsible seller, and take steps to improve the product with their supplier.
If your not a "techy guy" then how can you comment on such things as the temperature sensor etc. To me the quality and build seem fine. Take anything out of it's protective casing and it will look exposed and vulnerable.
those cell/s were clearly stressed by that band. would be better off just with the tape. might be worth top balancing given the voltage differences.
WTF - you think the quality and build are fine???? You need to get out more. These are rubbish assembled by the lowest paid worker in China. The cells are likely to be C grade or worse, or even second hand, which is why the cheap thin aluminium busbars are heat welded over the screw terminals. I can't remember a worse quality or workmanship battery teardown.
I was meaning tech savvy as in using a computer. But in regards to Solar and Off Grid Living, I have 25 years experience.
Really???? You bought a cheap as shite battery and you expected something different. Kings are well aware of how the batteries are manufactured as they are manufactured to a price. Seems to me you just want your mug on a you tube clip. Info was of no value to anyone>>Stop wasting your own time and ours...
Seriously dude, if you think Kings gear is rubbish, which some people do and are welcome to their opinion. Why did you even click on this video showing Kings gear when you dislike Kings ?
Sounds like you like trolling TH-cam to have something to bitch about which is also a waist of your time. Either way, thanks for stopping by.