Thank you, I also have this lens & love it for it's superb sharpness. I purchased it for a European trip as my walk around lens. For night time shooting, I switched over to a Sigma 50mm1.4.
Good review. I recently took a family trip and brought the Canon 24-105 f/4 is, sigma 18-35 f/1.8, and tokina 11-16 f/2.8 On my crop sensor Canon 70d, for a family trip, I found the 18-35 to be a great, albeit heavy, walk-around lens. I took probably 80% off my photos with it. Thanks for sharing your experience and recs.
The Sigma is very sharp, also great for flare resistance. I thought it renders quite flat though, perhaps due to all those elements hampering the subtleties of light transmission.
First off, and just to be clear, are you talking about the 24-105mm Art lens, if not then how would this compare to the Art? Secondly, with a crop sensor and a speedbooster, the aperture would increase to f2.8 and the focal length to 27-119. Still usable for portraits?
Nice review! I have the Canon 24-105, I noticed that it's not equally sharp across its aperture range, how is the Sigma in that regard? In other words does it have have a sweet spot?
Very informative. Thanks. I'm still on the fence for a travel lens for a 70D. Even though the Sigma has better image quality than the Canon 24-105, the Canon is usually availble new for between $600-$700 street price in the white box. I'm kind of torn between the 24-105, the 18-135 STM, and the 17-55 f2.8. Maybe Santa will help me with the decision.
Thanks for the heads up Toby. Was interested in this lens but now see there are alternatives on a crop sensor. Looking forwards to the canon 24 pancake, should be a very versatile and lightweight prime lens.
Hi Toby, Your videos are awesome and very helpful. I am trying to get a Standard Zoom lens for my 5D Mark III. Can you please suggest from the below options. I am looking for a Sharp and walk around lens. 1. Sigma 24-105 f/4 2. Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 3. Canon 24-70 f/2.8 (OLD version-used) I am tempted to get the sigma but was thinking of the 2.8 . please suggest.
I am also trying to choose between those lences (sigma vs. tamron 2.8). Toby can You describe some experience with low light situation? Which of those 2 would You choose?
Hi, I am new in this channel, I really liked your review. I bought this lens with Canon 6D as for a general use, which it has worked very well. However my company works mostly with stop motion animation. When I animate I mainly use vintage prime lenses. But of course I have try this new lens for animation and for an unpleasant surprised I got blurry picture. I thought that it have to be some automatics is doing it. And now thanks to you my friend, I know that it was because the stabilizer was on! Thanks a lot for that information and for the nice review! I did subscribe to your channel and will be watching more of your videos!
Better, better and better :) Seriously it out performs the Canon in every respect and you can pick up the Sigma USB dock to dial in the focusing, something you can't do with the Canon.
PhotoRec Toby hi , I was wondering what multipurpose lens I should use. Based on your experience do you think I may use it as my workhorse lens ? I shoot mostly protraits , landscape , street phoography.
Hey Toby I got a possibly intruiging question for you: I got the new GoPro 4 camera that shoots 24p at 4k. Thus, there is the option to zoom, reframe, and slide over in post with your image if outputting to 1080p. My question is this: when doing a digital zoom like this (with no quality loss) what is the difference between that and a push in with a slider? Is there an optical difference (not talking quality, but optically) also, if you slide right in post, is that gona be the same like a slider slide right? Or a push out, the same as a slider push out? Thanks for your thoughts. May be a growing and interesting topic with 4k just emerging. Thanks.
I just got it, couldn't be happier. Bought used, feels like a steal. It is absolutely perfect for travel - not that it is light or not bulky, but it is very compact compared to 70-200 AND 24-75 and much much cheaper. The idea is to only have one lens on all the time, that is compact enough, fits in a small bag, not terrible to lug around. The bonus is that it is not expensive, especially if married to Canon RP, so in the event, god forbid, that you have it stolen, you won't cry as much as you would if you had pretty much any of the good primes or any of the new RF lenses. I mean, $500 would be bad, but $2000 is absolute pain.
I forgot to take off the OS while on tripod and almost 1 second exposure and I had sharp images every time. I have seen other reviews saying the same thing about this lens needing to be taken off of the OS while on tripod. I find it works just fine.
Love the videos definitely helping on choices. If you could show comparisons when your talking about blur or sharpness would help. Keep up the awesome reviews.
When you said indoors you were shooting really high ISOs at times, what ISOs were you seeing and what would have been your best guess your ISO would have been if shot with an 24-70mm f/2.8?
Toby, thanks for the review! Can you update it according to the second version of Canon 24-105 f/4L? I would be awesome to know if Sigma is still performing well, because price difference is really noticeable.
In early 2019 used sigma 24-105 art lenses are going for about $150 more than used canon 24-105 Mark I lenses. Kinda funny how they flipped price wise.
Toby thank you for what you share good and not so good with various cameras & lenses ... I am photographer for newspapers and sometimes have to grab my camera and go, some landscape some sports and various other events ... and do my own thing too...and have decided to upgrade and hopefully stay with nikon d5300 for a while...and without having to put much money into lenses what is your thought of nikon d5300 using sigma 18 - 250 and sigma 70 - 300mm f4-5.6 dg macro - cost is awesome, can it be used for sports w/ a d5300? Thanks for your help.
Another great review Toby! Thanks for uploading :) Do you think Sigma's 17-70 f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM is worth buying for close range shooting and also for video? Best regards, Tuukka
I just bought a d750, I tested the nikon 24-70 and was not particularly wow'd by it to want to pay the price tag. I am thinking this lens might be a good general use lens for taking photos of friends and family and will double as a landscape lens. I come from a crop camera using the sigma 17-70 contemporary. I would normally shoot at 17mm and f8 or f10
Uptown Wedding Photography NJ the Sigma is still better.. You can look on the digital picture, they have them both up now and the sigma is still a lot better then the new Canon
I run this on my 70D, it lives on my camera. It is heavy, taken it on 2 vacations. My fav lens. I want Sigma to make more Art lenses. It is a strong lens, my other fell with camera in hand onto a rubber floor, camera was fine, back of the body that connects to the camera mount broke at the first seem, the metal posts snapped (alot of force), it still worked too if you help it together, the rest of the lens was fine, all the electronics and glass had no impacts, $200 to have Sigma replace the body and pvc board, the repair was done in a few days. Very impressed with Sigma service dept.
ruebarb1 I too want more Art lenses, I want an 85 f/1.4. Good to hear you have had positive experiences with Sigma service, that is an important point that is often overlooked when buying gear.
My wife and I were listening to your video and she thinks you're the greatest. Don't worry, I'm not jealous. Since listening to your talk, I'm going to get this lens. I've been looking for a mid range zoom lens but wasn't sure which one. A very informative video. Thanks!!!
In a crop sensor is a 38 x 168, not bad and very sharp. Good for portrait. The Sigma 17-50 f2.8 is also a good option. I have a 60D and this lens is very sharp.
I have this lens on my 70D and took them both on a trip to Europe last month. Considered taking my sigma 30mm 1.4 prime too but I didn't want the extra weight. (Also having some focus issues with that one I think?). I needed the camera to also be my video camera so the OS was very important. Loved the results. Toby have you reviewed the 30mm Art?
Geoffals I have not yet reviewed the 30mm ART but I hope to soon. I know it is sharp but have heard from more than a few that they too have experienced focusing issues.
well it isn't actually cheaper if you buy used because you can find the canon for easily 600 bucks vs the sigmas 800 and as the canon is an older lens the prices vary more often
This is in the hope you will notice a question on a 2-year-old video. Canon has released the EF 24-105mm f/4 IS Mark II, as you know, and although the Mark I has been compared to the Sigma reviewed in this video, the Canon Mark II has not. Could you briefly say how the Mark II compares to the Sigma? Is it still better value to buy the Sigma even without weatherproofing? Thanks!
Thanks. I'd actually already seen that page, and have now even looked at the links in it. However, I really wanted someone to tell me whether the Canon MK2 was worth $200 more than the Sigma, and so whether it's actually worth waiting for (since it's still only available for pre-order online). It's OK if you don't know. I've found no direct comparison between these two lenses online so far. Thanks.
Thanks. I also found a review on the Sigma lens's Amazon page that says it is hands-down superior to the Canon Mk II version. Check it out here: www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1T0YMSB3W1JXS/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00G6K4XZG
Cant decide between this lense and the tamron 24-70 di vc usd. Which one would be better option for walk around lense with 6D? I would use the lense sometimes at weddings, birthday parties and events. Of course i also have 50 and 35 primes.
Am a Nikon cropped sensor shooter and on a slightly tight budget..... how would the sigma 17-50 f/2.8 or the sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 (C) perform as a travel lens?? I find the 18-35 range a little bit limiting although it is much sharper.
Hi Toby. Thanks for sharing this review. I really think a good lens to compare would be the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 di vc usd. I've only played with it for a bit but I kinda love it. Very fast, good focal range and has IS
shooting the 810 on this lens is incredible. can someone tell me how they read the mount lens down and warm up time,initialization only or everytime. then theres the one second thing.
Hello.. Toby :) can u please compare this with a Nikon 24 120 f4 along with tamron 24 70 g2 on Nikon Z6 over FTZ ? it's end of 2018 please suggest me a worthy option for Z6 . The kit lens Nikon released neither has a good range nor wider aperture.
Hi, The sigma 24-105 f4 is a super sharp lens at Centre ... but the border are soft even at f8/f11... I would not recommend this lens for group shots ... where as the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 G2 is the beast at f2.8 the sharpness is at Centre n not at borders but @ f4 onwards the sharpness is great all over the frame ... n this Tamron 24-70 g2 is recommend for all purpose either indoor n out door as well ... just try this lens ....its worth
I am considering getting the nikon d750 with 24-120 f4 kit lense..Can you let me know if the sigma is better. I will be doing a bit of both stills and video..I'm not a pro but looking to advance and possibly be....Thanks...You make very good reviews .Truly appreciate them......
I found it interesting that you didn't take a wide angle lens on your trip. On some of the higher lens like the Tamaron 18-300 mm. My photo buddy says its soft at 300mm so he shoots it at 290 mm. Love to see you do a shoot using the wide angle lens. Like Tokina and compare it to Tamaron , Sigma, Canon and Nikon.
Don Jones I was shooting on a full frame camera - There are only a few of those big range lenses that work on full frame. I personally am not a fan of the do-it-all lenses, the lenses that cover 18-200 or more. They are certainly convenient but in my opinion you make sacrifices in image quality and convenience. The 18-140 range is about as high as I think someone should go. Have you watched my 10-18 review Canon EF-S 10-18mm Review and Canon 10-18 vs Canon 10-22 vs Tokina 11-16 - Review and Samples Thanks!
Great review Toby! Just like with Sony A5100 review you can tell that you spent some serious time using this lens in real life situation. There is a clear edge between good and bad feature in both reviews.
Can we expect review of the new EF-S 24mm STM soon? I already got mine on Friday but I'm still interested to read how others like it and that the measurements confirm my happy feelings about the purchase :)
Hey Toby, hope all's well. I'm unhappy with my Tamron 17-50 lens after a couple of dissapointing inside shoots with it.. Anything else that you would consider a contender to replace it? I'm still a Nikon shooter, was thinking of the Nikon 24-120 F4..
What was disappointing? Sharpness or low light performance or? I worry about f/4 inside and although 24-120 is convenient I wouldn't say it is significantly sharper. Could you get away with a prime? 35 or 50?
Slower than a slow thing! Sharpness at the slightly wider apertures is appalling. Really bad.. Anything under 4/5.6 is not sharp at all :( I like the telephoto really - I have the prime 50 but on a crop sensor that isnt really wide enough
Another con, at least for me, is the external telescoping focus arm, versus the internal telescoping focus arm. Still, given that this lens can compete optically with the Canon EF 24-70mm, I can live with the cons. If fact Toby, what is your opinion regarding this lens with the EF 24-70 II?
Frank White I love my 24-70 f/2.8 Mark II - so sharp. I give the Canon a little bit of an edge in sharpness but what the Canon really offers is f/2.8 and weather sealing. You know the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark II does the telescoping too- I wish it was internal.
CameraRec Toby I agree that the 20-70mm II is a superior lens. Although I own neither, I seem to get that stopped down, the Sigma Art lens is close, and given Sigma's price, this 24-105 is a GREAT lens for the money - at least optically. BTW, I enjoy your TH-cam channel.
Already have the sigma 18-35 and now I'm looking for a zoom lens that has constant aperture and IS and I'm really interested in this lens. Should I get this lens? I'm using canon 70d
Hello 👋 actually, I only shoot still pictures so which lens would be good in my case canon 70-200 f4 ( is- non is) canon 70-200 F2.8 (is-non is) sigma 70-200 F2.8 os tamron 70-200 F2.8 vc thanks.
PhotoRec Toby Out of interest how sharp does this lens perform wide open at f4 compared to the Canon 24-105? Do you find you get sharper images at all focal lengths at f4 than the Canon 24-105?
Thanks for the great review Toby. If possible, can you please review the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 lens for canon. I am sorry, if you already have and I missed it. Thanks
There is one other highly competitive comparable lens. Tamron's 24-70 f2.8 with IS. It is the only stabilized f2.8 standard zoom iirc and almost as good as Canon's 24-70 f2.8L II; some problems with vignetting/bokeh quality but bitingly sharp.
Hey Toby. Thanks for the great videos! Do you have any experience with the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 VC? I am considering it for video on the GH4 with a Speed Booster and it seems like a good focal length for a crop of around 1.6.
Jonas Hesselmark That Tamron is a good lens - remember when shooting 4k on the GH4 the crop is actually 2x - Any reason why you don't want to go with the Panny 12-35 f/2.8, maybe price www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/865111-REG/Panasonic_H_HS12035_Lumix_G_X_Vario.html?BI=4773&KBID=5287
CameraRec Toby Yes at 3 times the price that is one reason. I also like the extra focal range of the Tamron and the extra stop of light that the Speed Booster gives me. Which makes it a f/2 across the range in terms of light anyway. I actually believe that the crop factor for 4k is x2.3 but then the Speed Booster is a focal reducer at x0.71. So all in all around x1.63.
Did you test it on sony a7rii? This is a lacking lens on sony emount, an incredible versatile lens that they are just ignoring!. Please consider to test it with the mc11 preferentially over the metabones .Saludos
Nice review Toby. Just thought I would add that after much search for a 'main' lens for my 5DSR that I have settled on this lens and couldn't be happier. Resolution across the frame and through the FL range is great + IS = great lens for the 5DSR. I have tested my copy pretty throughly and it is sharper than my very good copy of the Canon 24-70 F2.8 II at every FL = win. Just waiting for Canon to follow Nikon and release a 24-70 F2.8 IS
I bought this 24-105 before setting off on a two month overseas shooting trip. I stopped using it after day two due to poor resolution at edges and useless in the corners.
Why is it that nobody ever talks about the minimum aperture yes I understand the F4 is good because people look for Boca I want to comes to landscapes and other shots people want a minimum aperture and know what it goes up to any website I go to when I look at a lens they only post the maximum aperture and then you have to go digging for the aperture range. I still cannot find what the aperture range for this lens is
Hey! Thank you for your reviews. I find them very useful and informative now that I am gonna upgrade my D700 for something with more mp, wifi, video and an extra card slot. After you review comparing D610, D750 and D810 I could confirm that the D750 will be perfect for me. Thanks, I am heading to the shop today and am beyond excited. Wohoo! Have shot with the same camera since 2014! Unfortunatly I am in China and cant use links to benefit you. Wish I could! My thoughts on this lens are - this is a great all around lens. I eventually sold my Sigma 24 70, but this will be awesome. 70 wasnt enough I felt.. I wanted it to get me to 85. When shooting portraits, animals or landscape nobody really needs to go under f/4 anyway. A 50 mm 1.4 or 1.8, or even 2.8 and a few macro filters is really all you need, Id say, for artsy shots. :)
You kept comparing and mentioning that the Canon 24-70 f2.8 doesn't have image stabilization yet you never even compared it to the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC which has image stabilization. How would you compared this to the Tamron as a travel zoom?
funnybeingme I had issues with that Tamron lens that scared me away and have heard of a few similar reports but honestly it seems Tamron got all the early issues worked out and I should give it a try again- Overall the Sigma is sharper but you get that VC and f/2.8
Yes - right here regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/data-plot (and I added a link under the video too- he has a ton of useful plugins so spend some time checking it out!
Thanks for the video, and for me this lens is almost a 1 lense kit! and yes an F4 is good - great since my other lenses are variable 4-5.6 F Thanks for the coments, and you have a new subscriber.
TalesOfWar I will say that the cost of the Canon 24-105 that I share here is a little misleading, you can pick up white box copies for $700ish and used copies for way less. Of course it still isn't as sharp.
Enjoyed your review. Have been reading up on this lens for awhile and was glad to finally see yours. I shoot with a Canon 6D with a few different lenses including the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM. As much as I enjoy this lens, I am not really happy with with the overall IQ (read softness) as compared to my 70-200mm f/4L IS. I hate to take that off my camera it gives such great results, but it doesn't make for a good AP carry around. I think your review is the clincher for me to "bite the bullet" and make the purchase. I'll probably sell the Canon locally on Craigslist. It isn't worth trying to do a Amazon trade; there offering really low allowances compared to used list. One question (I may have missed this on your review) concerns the distortion at the short end. The Canon is pretty bad at 24mm and I'm wondering if the Sigma is better? Keep up the great reviews; I'll keep reading.
I considered getting the Sigma 24/105 f4 because I love the longer focal range of 105, and I also love the new Sigma Art lenses, and even there older 85 f1.4 prime, but in the end I went with the Tamron 24/70 f2.8, because it also has VC or IS, it's weather sealed, and it's f2.8, and I guess I decided that f2.8 meant more to me than the extra focal range, and the price was right, almost half the price of the new Canon 24/70 f2.8, and the Canon doesn't have IS, typical of Canon, over pricing and under performing, even though the image quality was great, but Canon lost allot of Sales to the Tamron because of no IS and the price, anyway I have no regrets buying the Tamron, but wish it was smaller and lighter, I went on a trip and took my 5Dlll, my Tamron 24/70 f2.8, Canon 70/200 f2.8 IS ll, and my Sigma 85 f1.4, and a couple of speed lights, and the Tamron was used 95% of the time, I could've left the other glass at home instead of hauling around a billion pounds everywhere I went, whats funny is with all of my camera equipment I had with me, on half of my trip I just used my cell phone for a camera and left the camera bag behind, to much weight, that is why cameras like the Sony A7 series are so popular, and the fuji XT1, or Olympus EM1, no one wants to carry a cement bag around with them everywhere they go, but they want great image quality
photographerjonathan Agreed. Except I am not a fan of that Tamron, had a terrible time with it. On my recent travels I didn't miss the wider apertures much but I certainly idn't appreciate carrying such heavy gear and spent whole days using a Sony a5100 and was quite happy. I would have been even happier with just an A7r and one decent lens, like the 24-70.
Brian Michael Very nice lens but as one of my readers pointed out over on the FB page - for a crop sensor a better comparison is the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 and I agree it offers a similar range on a crop. Sharpness wise though nothing beats that 18-35 f/1.8
***** For HD video the shaking is still visible even on wide angles unless you use software stabilization afterwards (which eats some quality anyway). For low light photos I agree, for catching action is definitely better. Still, 3 or 4 usable stops of IS can give you better results than 1 or 2 stops faster glass. Also heavy weight but excellent image quality. Compromises, compromises, like usual with lenses :)
Hi. Can you please suggest what would be better choice to be used with Nikon D5100 as all in one lens use. Tamron 24-70 F2.8 or Sigma 24-105 F4.0. reason for choosing both full frame lens is that i intend to upgrade to full frame soon. As per my experience Tamron 24-70 F2.8 is sharper and has better color rendering than Sigma 24-70 F2.8 so that is why i need to decide between the lenses mentioned above.
+Hasnain Riaz Comparing the canon versions of those two lenses (since the sigma isn't tested on nikon) dxo mark claims they are equally sharp, but obviously one has more range but is f/4, and the other less range with f/2.8, so it's really just up to you, whether or not you want the f/2.8 or the range. The colour doesn't matter too much once editing.
Thank you, I also have this lens & love it for it's superb sharpness. I purchased it for a European trip as my walk around lens. For night time shooting, I switched over to a Sigma 50mm1.4.
First time I’ve seen a review by you Toby and I’m impressed fella. Great job fella all the best from Australia 👏🏻👍
Thanks Martin - Much appreciated.
Good review. I recently took a family trip and brought the Canon 24-105 f/4 is, sigma 18-35 f/1.8, and tokina 11-16 f/2.8
On my crop sensor Canon 70d, for a family trip, I found the 18-35 to be a great, albeit heavy, walk-around lens. I took probably 80% off my photos with it. Thanks for sharing your experience and recs.
NickMach007 Three nice lenses, If I shot mostly with crop I would own the sigma 18-35, such a nice lens.
Hows your experience with 70D compared to FF? , compare to a not professional but for someone who knows ins and out of a DSLR very well.
I cannot wait to put this lens on my Nikon D750 :)
The Sigma is very sharp, also great for flare resistance. I thought it renders quite flat though, perhaps due to all those elements hampering the subtleties of light transmission.
First off, and just to be clear, are you talking about the 24-105mm Art lens, if not then how would this compare to the Art? Secondly, with a crop sensor and a speedbooster, the aperture would increase to f2.8 and the focal length to 27-119. Still usable for portraits?
Nice review! I have the Canon 24-105, I noticed that it's not equally sharp across its aperture range, how is the Sigma in that regard? In other words does it have have a sweet spot?
Very informative. Thanks. I'm still on the fence for a travel lens for a 70D. Even though the Sigma has better image quality than the Canon 24-105, the Canon is usually availble new for between $600-$700 street price in the white box. I'm kind of torn between the 24-105, the 18-135 STM, and the 17-55 f2.8. Maybe Santa will help me with the decision.
Thanks for the heads up Toby. Was interested in this lens but now see there are alternatives on a crop sensor. Looking forwards to the canon 24 pancake, should be a very versatile and lightweight prime lens.
thank you! awesome review! is the lens parafocal?
Hi Toby, Your videos are awesome and very helpful. I am trying to get a Standard Zoom lens for my 5D Mark III. Can you please suggest from the below options. I am looking for a Sharp and walk around lens.
1. Sigma 24-105 f/4
2. Tamron 24-70 f/2.8
3. Canon 24-70 f/2.8 (OLD version-used)
I am tempted to get the sigma but was thinking of the 2.8 . please suggest.
I am also trying to choose between those lences (sigma vs. tamron 2.8). Toby can You describe some experience with low light situation? Which of those 2 would You choose?
Nice review. I believe you're missing one comparison, the Nikon 24-120 f4 ED VR. Your thoughts/review would be appreciated, thanks.
+Robby 24-120 is not a great lens. It is OK but nothing exciting.
+PhotoRec Toby absolutely true. Nikon's iteration is really mediocre.
I traded my Canon 24-105 for the Sigma version! - The sigma is so much sharper! very pleased.!
Hi, I am new in this channel, I really liked your review. I bought this lens with Canon 6D as for a general use, which it has worked very well. However my company works mostly with stop motion animation. When I animate I mainly use vintage prime lenses. But of course I have try this new lens for animation and for an unpleasant surprised I got blurry picture. I thought that it have to be some automatics is doing it. And now thanks to you my friend, I know that it was because the stabilizer was on! Thanks a lot for that information and for the nice review! I did subscribe to your channel and will be watching more of your videos!
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the video. How is this lens compares to the Canon 24-105 f4 in term of IQ, contrast, & AF accuracy?
Better, better and better :) Seriously it out performs the Canon in every respect and you can pick up the Sigma USB dock to dial in the focusing, something you can't do with the Canon.
Great lens, would absolutely shoot a lot with this one!! As always, you did a great job with the video Toby!
PhotoRec Toby hi , I was wondering what multipurpose lens I should use. Based on your experience do you think I may use it as my workhorse lens ? I shoot mostly protraits , landscape , street phoography.
Hey Toby I got a possibly intruiging question for you: I got the new GoPro 4 camera that shoots 24p at 4k. Thus, there is the option to zoom, reframe, and slide over in post with your image if outputting to 1080p.
My question is this: when doing a digital zoom like this (with no quality loss) what is the difference between that and a push in with a slider? Is there an optical difference (not talking quality, but optically)
also, if you slide right in post, is that gona be the same like a slider slide right? Or a push out, the same as a slider push out?
Thanks for your thoughts. May be a growing and interesting topic with 4k just emerging. Thanks.
Great and fair review. Covered all the points i would like to know. Tx a lot!
I just got it, couldn't be happier. Bought used, feels like a steal. It is absolutely perfect for travel - not that it is light or not bulky, but it is very compact compared to 70-200 AND 24-75 and much much cheaper. The idea is to only have one lens on all the time, that is compact enough, fits in a small bag, not terrible to lug around. The bonus is that it is not expensive, especially if married to Canon RP, so in the event, god forbid, that you have it stolen, you won't cry as much as you would if you had pretty much any of the good primes or any of the new RF lenses. I mean, $500 would be bad, but $2000 is absolute pain.
Buying used is a great way to go and I totally agree. Great all around lens for travel even if it isn't the lightest on the market
Excellent review, many thanks and keep on fantastic work.
Great Review Toby..!
What do do think about this lens vs the Nikon 24-120 f/4 ?
I am spending time with the 24-120 right now and it is a good lens, still not as sharp and well made as the Sigma though.
I forgot to take off the OS while on tripod and almost 1 second exposure and I had sharp images every time. I have seen other reviews saying the same thing about this lens needing to be taken off of the OS while on tripod. I find it works just fine.
Love the videos definitely helping on choices. If you could show comparisons when your talking about blur or sharpness would help. Keep up the awesome reviews.
When you said indoors you were shooting really high ISOs at times, what ISOs were you seeing and what would have been your best guess your ISO would have been if shot with an 24-70mm f/2.8?
Thank you...Your reviews are always helpful..!!!
Toby, thanks for the review! Can you update it according to the second version of Canon 24-105 f/4L? I would be awesome to know if Sigma is still performing well, because price difference is really noticeable.
In early 2019 used sigma 24-105 art lenses are going for about $150 more than used canon 24-105 Mark I lenses. Kinda funny how they flipped price wise.
Great review Toby! I was wondering about that little program you used to get those stats at 6:47 .Seems very usefull. Where did you get it? grtz
Never mind! Just saw the link in the description! ;-)
Toby thank you for what you share good and not so good with various cameras & lenses ... I am photographer for newspapers and sometimes have to grab my camera and go, some landscape some sports and various other events ... and do my own thing too...and have decided to upgrade and hopefully stay with nikon d5300 for a while...and without having to put much money into lenses what is your thought of nikon d5300 using sigma 18 - 250 and sigma 70 - 300mm f4-5.6 dg macro - cost is awesome, can it be used for sports w/ a d5300? Thanks for your help.
The new starting & banner is very nice :-)
Another great review Toby!
Thanks for uploading :)
Do you think Sigma's 17-70 f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM is worth buying for close range shooting and also for video?
Best regards,
Tuukka
Tuukka Varjoranta I do think the Sigma 17-70 is a great lens for all around shooting and video work.
Can you compare this to the Tamron 28-300? I am considering this, the tamron and the ii version of the canon 24-105, thanks!
I just bought a d750, I tested the nikon 24-70 and was not particularly wow'd by it to want to pay the price tag. I am thinking this lens might be a good general use lens for taking photos of friends and family and will double as a landscape lens. I come from a crop camera using the sigma 17-70 contemporary. I would normally shoot at 17mm and f8 or f10
Nice review....Be interested how the Sigma stacks up against the new Canon 24-105mm (Ver. II) just released...Thanks.
Philip
Uptown Wedding Photography NJ the Sigma is still better.. You can look on the digital picture, they have them both up now and the sigma is still a lot better then the new Canon
Where do I find the photos you mentioned to see a side by side. thanks...
I run this on my 70D, it lives on my camera. It is heavy, taken it on 2 vacations. My fav lens. I want Sigma to make more Art lenses. It is a strong lens, my other fell with camera in hand onto a rubber floor, camera was fine, back of the body that connects to the camera mount broke at the first seem, the metal posts snapped (alot of force), it still worked too if you help it together, the rest of the lens was fine, all the electronics and glass had no impacts, $200 to have Sigma replace the body and pvc board, the repair was done in a few days. Very impressed with Sigma service dept.
ruebarb1 I too want more Art lenses, I want an 85 f/1.4. Good to hear you have had positive experiences with Sigma service, that is an important point that is often overlooked when buying gear.
My wife and I were listening to your video and she thinks you're the greatest. Don't worry, I'm not jealous. Since listening to your talk, I'm going to get this lens. I've been looking for a mid range zoom lens but wasn't sure which one. A very informative video. Thanks!!!
Hi I’m a beginner in photography technology world and I would like to ask if this lens fit on my Canon 250D?
In a crop sensor is a 38 x 168, not bad and very sharp. Good for portrait. The Sigma 17-50 f2.8 is also a good option. I have a 60D and this lens is very sharp.
I have this lens on my 70D and took them both on a trip to Europe last month. Considered taking my sigma 30mm 1.4 prime too but I didn't want the extra weight. (Also having some focus issues with that one I think?). I needed the camera to also be my video camera so the OS was very important. Loved the results. Toby have you reviewed the 30mm Art?
Geoffals I have not yet reviewed the 30mm ART but I hope to soon. I know it is sharp but have heard from more than a few that they too have experienced focusing issues.
CameraRec Toby
there is a firmware update to fix the focus.
Great Review! You should do another holiday deal specials esp on good lenses to get.
sokoli989 It is on the list to do. Thanks!
well it isn't actually cheaper if you buy used because you can find the canon for easily 600 bucks vs the sigmas 800 and as the canon is an older lens the prices vary more often
Thank you for this review. My 24-105 4.0 Canon needs repair and I will in the meantime purchase this great lens.
This is in the hope you will notice a question on a 2-year-old video.
Canon has released the EF 24-105mm f/4 IS Mark II, as you know, and although the Mark I has been compared to the Sigma reviewed in this video, the Canon Mark II has not. Could you briefly say how the Mark II compares to the Sigma? Is it still better value to buy the Sigma even without weatherproofing?
Thanks!
divisionazul take a look at photorec.tv/2017/02/canon-24-105-f4-mk1-vs-canon-24-105-f4-mk2/
Thanks. I'd actually already seen that page, and have now even looked at the links in it. However, I really wanted someone to tell me whether the Canon MK2 was worth $200 more than the Sigma, and so whether it's actually worth waiting for (since it's still only available for pre-order online). It's OK if you don't know. I've found no direct comparison between these two lenses online so far. Thanks.
Thanks. I also found a review on the Sigma lens's Amazon page that says it is hands-down superior to the Canon Mk II version. Check it out here: www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1T0YMSB3W1JXS/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00G6K4XZG
Cant decide between this lense and the tamron 24-70 di vc usd. Which one would be better option for walk around lense with 6D? I would use the lense sometimes at weddings, birthday parties and events. Of course i also have 50 and 35 primes.
Hi.. could you please tell me how that plug-in for shots statistic call and maybe where to get it?
Am a Nikon cropped sensor shooter and on a slightly tight budget..... how would the sigma 17-50 f/2.8 or the sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 (C) perform as a travel lens?? I find the 18-35 range a little bit limiting although it is much sharper.
Hi Toby. Thanks for sharing this review. I really think a good lens to compare would be the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 di vc usd. I've only played with it for a bit but I kinda love it. Very fast, good focal range and has IS
shooting the 810 on this lens is incredible. can someone tell me how they read the mount lens down and warm up time,initialization only or everytime. then theres the one second thing.
Hello.. Toby :) can u please compare this with a Nikon 24 120 f4 along with tamron 24 70 g2 on Nikon Z6 over FTZ ? it's end of 2018 please suggest me a worthy option for Z6 . The kit lens Nikon released neither has a good range nor wider aperture.
Awesome review, many thanks!
Hi,
The sigma 24-105 f4 is a super sharp lens at Centre ... but the border are soft even at f8/f11... I would not recommend this lens for group shots ... where as the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 G2 is the beast at f2.8 the sharpness is at Centre n not at borders but @ f4 onwards the sharpness is great all over the frame ... n this Tamron 24-70 g2 is recommend for all purpose either indoor n out door as well ... just try this lens ....its worth
I am considering getting the nikon d750 with 24-120 f4 kit lense..Can you let me know if the sigma is better. I will be doing a bit of both stills and video..I'm not a pro but looking to advance and possibly be....Thanks...You make very good reviews .Truly appreciate them......
I will do my best. I have the Nikon D750 with 24-120 here in the office right now - really sweet setup, will share more soon.
***** Awesome, thanks for sharing.
CameraRec Toby
ACR 8.7 Final and Lightroom 5.7 with D750 support is out! w0ot
sigma 24-105 Art is far better than nikon 24-120. Don't get the nikon lense!
For cropped sensors the sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.0 is a nice lense
H&AFamilyPhotos Yes - I agree.
I found it interesting that you didn't take a wide angle lens on your trip. On some of the higher lens like the Tamaron 18-300 mm. My photo buddy says its soft at 300mm so he shoots it at 290 mm. Love to see you do a shoot using the wide angle lens. Like Tokina and compare it to Tamaron , Sigma, Canon and Nikon.
Don Jones I was shooting on a full frame camera - There are only a few of those big range lenses that work on full frame. I personally am not a fan of the do-it-all lenses, the lenses that cover 18-200 or more. They are certainly convenient but in my opinion you make sacrifices in image quality and convenience. The 18-140 range is about as high as I think someone should go. Have you watched my 10-18 review Canon EF-S 10-18mm Review and Canon 10-18 vs Canon 10-22 vs Tokina 11-16 - Review and Samples Thanks!
Great review Toby!
Just like with Sony A5100 review you can tell that you spent some serious time using this lens in real life situation.
There is a clear edge between good and bad feature in both reviews.
Can we expect review of the new EF-S 24mm STM soon? I already got mine on Friday but I'm still interested to read how others like it and that the measurements confirm my happy feelings about the purchase :)
Jan Tichavský yes watch instagram.com/p/vhOwEvtMP2/?modal=true :)
CameraRec Toby Great, I'm excited!
Hey Toby, hope all's well. I'm unhappy with my Tamron 17-50 lens after a couple of dissapointing inside shoots with it.. Anything else that you would consider a contender to replace it? I'm still a Nikon shooter, was thinking of the Nikon 24-120 F4..
What was disappointing? Sharpness or low light performance or? I worry about f/4 inside and although 24-120 is convenient I wouldn't say it is significantly sharper. Could you get away with a prime? 35 or 50?
Slower than a slow thing! Sharpness at the slightly wider apertures is appalling. Really bad.. Anything under 4/5.6 is not sharp at all :( I like the telephoto really - I have the prime 50 but on a crop sensor that isnt really wide enough
Another con, at least for me, is the external telescoping focus arm, versus the internal telescoping focus arm. Still, given that this lens can compete optically with the Canon EF 24-70mm, I can live with the cons. If fact Toby, what is your opinion regarding this lens with the EF 24-70 II?
Frank White I love my 24-70 f/2.8 Mark II - so sharp. I give the Canon a little bit of an edge in sharpness but what the Canon really offers is f/2.8 and weather sealing. You know the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark II does the telescoping too- I wish it was internal.
CameraRec Toby I agree that the 20-70mm II is a superior lens. Although I own neither, I seem to get that stopped down, the Sigma Art lens is close, and given Sigma's price, this 24-105 is a GREAT lens for the money - at least optically. BTW, I enjoy your TH-cam channel.
External Zoom not focusing....
Already have the sigma 18-35 and now I'm looking for a zoom lens that has constant aperture and IS and I'm really interested in this lens. Should I get this lens? I'm using canon 70d
Hello 👋
actually, I only shoot still pictures so which lens would be good in my case
canon 70-200 f4 ( is- non is)
canon 70-200 F2.8 (is-non is)
sigma 70-200 F2.8 os
tamron 70-200 F2.8 vc
thanks.
PhotoRec Toby Out of interest how sharp does this lens perform wide open at f4 compared to the Canon 24-105? Do you find you get sharper images at all focal lengths at f4 than the Canon 24-105?
Yes - Sharper across the board.
Thanks for the great review Toby.
If possible, can you please review the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 lens for canon. I am sorry, if you already have and I missed it. Thanks
Satyaki Hosmane That is an older lens that I probably won't review anytime soon - lots of other folks have good reviews out there.
No worries. I am confused between Sigma 18-35 f1.8 and 17-50 f2.8. Which one do you suggest? Thanks
Satyaki Hosmane
buy the 18-35mm f/1.8 it's the sharpest/fastest zoom lense available.
Cool. Thanks for your suggestion
There is one other highly competitive comparable lens. Tamron's 24-70 f2.8 with IS. It is the only stabilized f2.8 standard zoom iirc and almost as good as Canon's 24-70 f2.8L II; some problems with vignetting/bokeh quality but bitingly sharp.
how about sigma 150-500mm on nikon
D7000 are the images sharp on that Lens can i use on that
You said the sharpness is comparable to the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 mark II? Is that with the Sigma shot wide open at f/4?
Really helpful review! I'm holding off on the purchase just yet - I just love my prime too much. I'm certainly tempted by this one, though. :)
Hey Toby. Thanks for the great videos!
Do you have any experience with the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 VC? I am considering it for video on the GH4 with a Speed Booster and it seems like a good focal length for a crop of around 1.6.
Jonas Hesselmark That Tamron is a good lens - remember when shooting 4k on the GH4 the crop is actually 2x - Any reason why you don't want to go with the Panny 12-35 f/2.8, maybe price www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/865111-REG/Panasonic_H_HS12035_Lumix_G_X_Vario.html?BI=4773&KBID=5287
CameraRec Toby Yes at 3 times the price that is one reason. I also like the extra focal range of the Tamron and the extra stop of light that the Speed Booster gives me. Which makes it a f/2 across the range in terms of light anyway. I actually believe that the crop factor for 4k is x2.3 but then the Speed Booster is a focal reducer at x0.71. So all in all around x1.63.
How do you compare this one against 18m105mm f4 from Sony?
Did you test it on sony a7rii? This is a lacking lens on sony emount, an incredible versatile lens that they are just ignoring!. Please consider to test it with the mc11 preferentially over the metabones .Saludos
Gustavo Ibarra did you got any answer? Thinking of buying it for my A7
Nice review Toby. Just thought I would add that after much search for a 'main' lens for my 5DSR that I have settled on this lens and couldn't be happier. Resolution across the frame and through the FL range is great + IS = great lens for the 5DSR. I have tested my copy pretty throughly and it is sharper than my very good copy of the Canon 24-70 F2.8 II at every FL = win. Just waiting for Canon to follow Nikon and release a 24-70 F2.8 IS
CameraRec Toby what about this lens comparing to the Nikkor 24-120 F4 (Kit lens for D750) ?
I like your videos Toby. Could you please review the sigma 50-100 f1.8 ART lens. Would appreciate you doing that.
I bought this 24-105 before setting off on a two month overseas shooting trip. I stopped using it after day two due to poor resolution at edges and useless in the corners.
Sounds like you got a bad copy.
Talk to Sigma about it. It is not impossible your lens is having back or front-focusing problems. Check out the Sigma Lens Dock as well.
Good review!
would you buy it again in 2018??
Why is it that nobody ever talks about the minimum aperture yes I understand the F4 is good because people look for Boca I want to comes to landscapes and other shots people want a minimum aperture and know what it goes up to any website I go to when I look at a lens they only post the maximum aperture and then you have to go digging for the aperture range. I still cannot find what the aperture range for this lens is
Hey! Thank you for your reviews. I find them very useful and informative now that I am gonna upgrade my D700 for something with more mp, wifi, video and an extra card slot. After you review comparing D610, D750 and D810 I could confirm that the D750 will be perfect for me. Thanks, I am heading to the shop today and am beyond excited. Wohoo! Have shot with the same camera since 2014! Unfortunatly I am in China and cant use links to benefit you. Wish I could!
My thoughts on this lens are - this is a great all around lens. I eventually sold my Sigma 24 70, but this will be awesome. 70 wasnt enough I felt.. I wanted it to get me to 85. When shooting portraits, animals or landscape nobody really needs to go under f/4 anyway. A 50 mm 1.4 or 1.8, or even 2.8 and a few macro filters is really all you need, Id say, for artsy shots.
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Would love to hear your thoughts about the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 sir Toby. :)
great review. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Toby, great video. I was wondering if you know of any good budget lenses for video on a Nikon D5300? Thanks.
PrinceOfTehPizza watch Recommended Lenses for Nikon D5200/D5300/D7100 (DX Cameras)
You kept comparing and mentioning that the Canon 24-70 f2.8 doesn't have image stabilization yet you never even compared it to the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC which has image stabilization. How would you compared this to the Tamron as a travel zoom?
funnybeingme I had issues with that Tamron lens that scared me away and have heard of a few similar reports but honestly it seems Tamron got all the early issues worked out and I should give it a try again- Overall the Sigma is sharper but you get that VC and f/2.8
CameraRec Toby
I agree with you on the tamron, it's a piece of shit.
My Nikon D850 - Sigma 24-105mm f4 DG OS HSM Art - Recommended
Hi Toby, Can you share the Geoffry's plugin link so that I can also use it.
Yes - right here regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/data-plot (and I added a link under the video too- he has a ton of useful plugins so spend some time checking it out!
How about against the Nikon 24-120 f4
The Canon EF-S 15-85mm is the APS-C equivalent of the 24-105 and it is a quality lens with great IQ.
Thanks for the video, and for me this lens is almost a 1 lense kit! and yes an F4 is good - great since my other lenses are variable 4-5.6 F Thanks for the coments, and you have a new subscriber.
How convenient. I was looking at this beauty the other day over the Canon L version.
TalesOfWar I will say that the cost of the Canon 24-105 that I share here is a little misleading, you can pick up white box copies for $700ish and used copies for way less. Of course it still isn't as sharp.
Enjoyed your review. Have been reading up on this lens for awhile and was glad to finally see yours. I shoot with a Canon 6D with a few different lenses including the Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM. As much as I enjoy this lens, I am not really happy with with the overall IQ (read softness) as compared to my 70-200mm f/4L IS. I hate to take that off my camera it gives such great results, but it doesn't make for a good AP carry around. I think your review is the clincher for me to "bite the bullet" and make the purchase. I'll probably sell the Canon locally on Craigslist. It isn't worth trying to do a Amazon trade; there offering really low allowances compared to used list. One question (I may have missed this on your review) concerns the distortion at the short end. The Canon is pretty bad at 24mm and I'm wondering if the Sigma is better? Keep up the great reviews; I'll keep reading.
Sigma 24-105 vs nikon 24-120 f4?
I considered getting the Sigma 24/105 f4 because I love the longer focal range of 105, and I also love the new Sigma Art lenses, and even there older 85 f1.4 prime, but in the end I went with the Tamron 24/70 f2.8, because it also has VC or IS, it's weather sealed, and it's f2.8, and I guess I decided that f2.8 meant more to me than the extra focal range, and the price was right, almost half the price of the new Canon 24/70 f2.8, and the Canon doesn't have IS, typical of Canon, over pricing and under performing, even though the image quality was great, but Canon lost allot of Sales to the Tamron because of no IS and the price, anyway I have no regrets buying the Tamron, but wish it was smaller and lighter, I went on a trip and took my 5Dlll, my Tamron 24/70 f2.8, Canon 70/200 f2.8 IS ll, and my Sigma 85 f1.4, and a couple of speed lights, and the Tamron was used 95% of the time, I could've left the other glass at home instead of hauling around a billion pounds everywhere I went, whats funny is with all of my camera equipment I had with me, on half of my trip I just used my cell phone for a camera and left the camera bag behind, to much weight, that is why cameras like the Sony A7 series are so popular, and the fuji XT1, or Olympus EM1, no one wants to carry a cement bag around with them everywhere they go, but they want great image quality
photographerjonathan Agreed. Except I am not a fan of that Tamron, had a terrible time with it. On my recent travels I didn't miss the wider apertures much but I certainly idn't appreciate carrying such heavy gear and spent whole days using a Sony a5100 and was quite happy. I would have been even happier with just an A7r and one decent lens, like the 24-70.
18-35 f 1.8
Brian Michael Very nice lens but as one of my readers pointed out over on the FB page - for a crop sensor a better comparison is the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 and I agree it offers a similar range on a crop. Sharpness wise though nothing beats that 18-35 f/1.8
PhotoRec Toby I ended up getting the sigma 17-50 2.8 OS
But now I have a 5Dmkii and a Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC
Good review. I don't agree with all of your views but you give good info. Thank you.
scarmenl Thanks! Happy to hear your point of view if you want to share.
None of the Art lenses are weather sealed, The sport lenses are though.
Ok...before I run out and buy this...is anyone about to release a similar lens with a constant 2.8?
Ken Strong Not at this range, not at this price. And not that I know of :)
Good vídeo! But why do you say that the 18-35 is great, unless its for filmming?
It doesn't have IS for hand held shooting.
Oh okay, but being pretty wide like it is, is not that necessary..
***** For HD video the shaking is still visible even on wide angles unless you use software stabilization afterwards (which eats some quality anyway). For low light photos I agree, for catching action is definitely better. Still, 3 or 4 usable stops of IS can give you better results than 1 or 2 stops faster glass. Also heavy weight but excellent image quality. Compromises, compromises, like usual with lenses :)
***** And you can always use a monopod or tripod - I really only mean it isn't as good for that silky smooth stabilization
How good of this sigma compared to tamron 24-70 VC
smart games Sharper! But you sacrifice f/2.8
Hi. Can you please suggest what would be better choice to be used with Nikon D5100 as all in one lens use.
Tamron 24-70 F2.8 or Sigma 24-105 F4.0.
reason for choosing both full frame lens is that i intend to upgrade to full frame soon.
As per my experience Tamron 24-70 F2.8 is sharper and has better color rendering than Sigma 24-70 F2.8 so that is why i need to decide between the lenses mentioned above.
+Hasnain Riaz Comparing the canon versions of those two lenses (since the sigma isn't tested on nikon) dxo mark claims they are equally sharp, but obviously one has more range but is f/4, and the other less range with f/2.8, so it's really just up to you, whether or not you want the f/2.8 or the range. The colour doesn't matter too much once editing.
Some photos from Italy.....top!!
weight is a non-issue when it comes to image quality. That basically leaves the F4 argument as a 'con'.