the thing I love about ragbag is that he would have a better chance succeeding (or least surviving) as anything else in life but an orc. Which sucks because he is one and he is a horrible orc. he hates fighting, he's a coward, he prefers to talk his way out of predicaments, he's not consumed with hate against everything and everyone, just people who've wronged him, he see's a human (talion) as his friend as well as an olog (ranger) and the one thing orcs hate more then humans are their own kind. he's small and he's a horrible war chief/captain. he's the least orcish orc in all of middle earth.
Daniel Carbone well, there are two more things most orcs hate more than their own kind. Elves, which they descended from, and, of course failure in battle. They're a tough warrior breed, losing a battle brings nothing but shame to them. As Celebrimbor said: They follow strength, if an orc in a leading position doesn't offer that, he'll end up being killed by his own kind pretty fast. And there's ALWAYS. an orc who think he'd do a better job than the current leader
That’s because the game lore is screwed up and wrong the elves were intended to be perfect and good, orca ARE CORRUPT elves and URAK HAI are superior breeders. They have no redeeming quality the game strays from the lore and is not fact
Super Mario Pixel man ישוע Elves were intended to be perfect and good, bullshit, have you watched any lotr or hobbit film or read the books. Elves were always perky tall cunts. They’ve always been mad racist as well. Hell even legolas was a racist prick in the hobbit (he did turn it round though)
Ratbag has to be the most loyal of Talion's friends. Didn't even need to brand him, and he was right there with Talion, looking out for him in his own way.
CloudsOverDD that's because their structure of command is based on who the best killer is, it allows them to be more individualistic and more open with their personalities
Bumbleness Supreme Brady so basically to ranger and ranger. Ratbag was right, shit's confusing :D just the same when we had 3 Julias in our class, and the teacher would pick Julia to answer the question, and always got the same response: Which one?
Yeah but you can kinda hear in his voice at the end there that he’s kinda disturbed by what you did to Brûz. I wouldn’t blame him I he started to question your morals.
I don't blame Bruz. He helped set up the siege, stood by your side and fought for you (In my play-through, he was downed multiple times). Then, you give it to a random orc for no real reason. I'd be pissed too.
Random Orc for no real reason? Let me tell you about Nazu the Mad. He was the last chiefs bodyguard. When i had to face him Nazu screamed something about kettles and outright obliterated the Warchief in 3 hits. Was downed by the next Chief and Nazu stepped in and beat him to death. During the Siege he cleared 3 points by himself. It's hardly random for everyone =p But yeah, would have chosen Bruz if i could.
Destroyer m60 you can, he back to ambush randomly, but you'd have to give a fort to keep him loyal or he'll just betray you again... the personality is gone too
when i got to the part where i chose my overlord, b4 realizing it wasn't an option, i thought u could slightly change the story by making him the overlord
@@xninjabluexTV Nah, not the same guy. Bruce from Finding Nemo is voiced by Barry Humphries, the man behind Dame Edna. Bruz, on the other hand, is voiced by a British man named Gideon Emery.
This game answered a question I had since childhood. What if there were orcs and other creatures of the dark that didn't want to fight? Be scavengers, farmers, nomads, outcasts or whatnot?
After i finished this questline i went back to try and get him again to make him overlord XD I ended up ice blasting in hopes of putting him into the grabable state ...instead i think it crit and killed Bruz. Later i found him at the Minus Morgol arena as an undead and cut him in half o3o
In the rererere-release of the special extended edition of the movies Ratbag and Ranger will show up at the black gate to help Aragorn and company in the last fight to buy time for Frodo and Sam. Bruz will also be shown wandering around screaming "ITS YOUR FORTRESS!" "ITS YOUR FORTRESS!"
It's not available yet. They're going to try and hire they editing George Lucas used when he had all the extra crap added to the newer versions of the original Star Wars trilogy.
I adore ratbag. Best ork friend aside from my most loyal follower Nákra the Obsessed who is a Mystic Hunter. I had an old follower i considered to be my most loyal but he betrayed me. Nákra has not only been one of best fighters but has also saved me on multiple occasions. I've grown a bond with him to the point where it be devastated if he was killed or betrayed me.
I want a spinoff game that's all about ratbag. This is easily the best stuff in the game and it's such a small part. To be clear, I don't want dlc. I want Middle Earth: Shadow of Ratbag.
Steven Sanchez don't worry in the story you don't kill him just shame him so he's not dead and later after that mission he ambushes you randomly so you can just brand him then but you have to make him loyal or else he will keep betraying you so I just gave him the fort and he stayed loyal
I recruited him again but he ended up being found out as a spy. Next playthrough I'm just going to kill him after his questline. Big lug doesn't deserve being left like that. Baz and Daz were right, breaking his mind was too far.
Theres a missing scene. When Talion, Celebrimbor, Ratbag, Ranger (Olog) and Bruz are at the fortress, Bruz grabs ratbag and squeezes his torso, breaking a few ribs.
I love how in this game every orc has a unique personality and a backstory Makes me want to meet all of them, specially with Brûz, and the singer one (Can't remember his name)
Talion: celebrimbor! Bruz has betrayed us! How do we punish him? Celebrimbor: first, distract target. Then block his blind jab. Counter with cross to left cheek. DISCOMBOBULATE. Dazed, he'll attempt wild haymaker, employ elbow block, then body stab. Block feral left, weaken right jaw. Now fracture. Cut open ribs. Traumatize solar plexus. Slice off jaw entirely. Stab to diaphragm. Then shame. In summary, ears ringers, jaw completely removed, 3 ribs dismembered, 4 broken, diaphragm hemorrhaging. Physical recovery probably 1 minute according to gameplay, full psychological recovery, NEVER Talion: what?
Funny I just noticed Bruz’s first line portrays the overall nature of his questline and forshadows his character; sizing up an impossible situation and saying “Yeah, ill have a go” is exactly what bruz does when he decides to betray you and actually believes he can actually take you down despite knowing that it doesn’t matter how many times talion dies, he’ll always return and likely with the motive of destroying you in every way imaginable
After unlocking the final achievement for Peace In Death, I appointed Bruz as the Overlord for the last fort. Just the way he was standing, all wearied and in despair with lumped shoulders and down turned eyes was a sad sight indeed. It is really bad that there was no alternate choice in which we could have given the fort initially to Bruz, I understand it now because the game intentionally wants us to be like Talion in his footsteps of being turned into a monster. Still, I can't help but feel terrible for Bruz. (Thanks for reading you guys, happy gaming and good days to you)
Ivan The HyperrealTraveller What becomes of Bruz is heartbreaking. You robbed him of his mind, he literally only speaks of the fort now. Death would’ve been better.
What I find interesting, well this is how I see it anyway, but Brûz basically let us know the type of person he is before we recruited him. When he calls that Uruk an "opportunist" and says he's the same way, he basically let the players know that he's gonna use us for his own gain. Once he heard that if any other orcs came after us, soon following as well, he came up with the plan to take over the fort in Nurn. It's why he went after our boys that were our bodyguards, warchiefs, and overlord. He also tried to stop RatBag from warning Talion about the fort coming under attack.
Bruz goes from calling the overlord "Big as a mountain, and deadly smart", to refusing to work for them. I guess it's a real broken pedestal situation for him. He found out the truth, and was disappointed.
"My black speech is a little rusty -- actually, I don't know a single word; language is a pain in the arse." Bruz is hilarious, and we'll quote everything he says.
I gotta say, doing such a thing to Bruz - or ANYONE, for that matter - really made me uncomfortable. I know it's just a game and it's not real, yeah I get that, but still. Having suffered a mental breakdown in the past, I could feel the pain that would come from something like this. Shit was awful. Guess Bruz was right in the beginning.
Yaoi Marik Yeah, you are right, I used shame on an orc once cos i wanted to lower his level to recruit him for the legendary upgrade but i mistakenly killed him, Then i shamed another dark tracker and he was really really broken, couldn't even mutter a word just screams and moaning That was really uncomfortable and felt bad, so i kept him as my bodyguard the entire time in that region and made him overlord Still doesn't feel right... That really was a shitty move and i didn't even knew i was doing it...
watch this youtube video called "Shadow of War - Don't shame Orc too much or this will happen", the guy shames an orc so much he becomes unable to speak and just whimpers instead, amazing how they made me feel bad for a twisted war mongering orc that doesn't even exist.
I agree, after finishing that mission I instantly disabled the worse than death perk because of two reasons first being I don’t wanna see any other orcs like that and second being they lose to many levels so if u wanna recruit them u then need to level them up again
Orcs are typically considered incapable of good. This isn`t exactly true but under Sauron`s influence of evil they certainly are. When did an orc show mercy or kindness in canon? We never see an orc commit a good act. Orcs do secretly resent Sauron and his master Morgoth and they do want to be free despite their evil nature. I believe if left alone and not contacted they would live in peace. This game shows (although not canon) that orcs with their own free will do have some sense of humanity to them. We know through the series Orcs do feel fear and pain. Goes to show that "Good" even in LOTR commits plenty of shady actions.
Me] strange thing about the scene I’m. I remember blue boys saying 8:33 Blue boy] he’s right. Orcs follow power. if we allow ourselves to be attacked without retribution. it’ll be seen as a sign of weakness
I only played this game this year when it was free on PS+, and I loved Bruz. Sad to say, once he betrayed me, I sworn to shame all Olog captains I run into, and not one Olog has made it to warchief in any of my fortresses. Olog, Uruk, same thing really.
For the one still playing: Bruz is on the map and in the game after the shaming as every other orc and he can be recruited again (if he is not/lost resistance to recruit). I had Bruz as captain again. His powers are still there even he will never be the same as before.
I always felt bad for Bruz! If I could have my way I would never do him like that!! I would’ve made him overlord in a heartbeat! He’s such a cool character, and after I broke him, it just made me sad to see and hear him. I re-dominated him, and it still just wasn’t the same. I thought in my next save I would try to make him a maniac, but it never happened. I could skirt around him, but at random one of orcs came in and killed him. Is it even possible to turn him into a maniac?
"It's kind of a long story...
Ranger killed the old Overlord, now it's ours."
... Almost ran out of popcorn there. XD
Cool
😂😂😂😂😂🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
"bright Lord, dark lord same thing really"
Exactly!!!!
Wonder if that was meant to be foreshadowing
I KNOW RIGHT
Yeah. Only that one has badass medieval armor and a hammer and the one ring
Jayk Dos I think your right about that. Didn't realize it until now.
48lowes i
Bright Lord, dark lord, same thing really
Best line.
Silvershinobi80 brûz knew that and it took talion most of the game to catch up
Best hidden spoiler ever XD
Silvershinobi80 Huge foreshadowing with that line. Which makes it so great.
“End result is me ripping spines out, which I like to do anyway”
It Is the same thing CELEBRIMBOR wants to dominate the world sauron wants too CELEBRIMBOR Is NOT A GOOD GUY
I was tortured, I was starved, but yes i can walk. And if we are going after Brûz, I can run.
What a good line
He is my kind of guy honestly I can run off of pure spite for someone
“Why does bright lord talk to himself, are you insane?”
I wish Ranger (the Olog) was in more of the game. Great character.
the thing I love about ragbag is that he would have a better chance succeeding (or least surviving) as anything else in life but an orc. Which sucks because he is one and he is a horrible orc. he hates fighting, he's a coward, he prefers to talk his way out of predicaments, he's not consumed with hate against everything and everyone, just people who've wronged him, he see's a human (talion) as his friend as well as an olog (ranger) and the one thing orcs hate more then humans are their own kind. he's small and he's a horrible war chief/captain. he's the least orcish orc in all of middle earth.
Daniel Carbone well, there are two more things most orcs hate more than their own kind. Elves, which they descended from, and, of course failure in battle. They're a tough warrior breed, losing a battle brings nothing but shame to them. As Celebrimbor said: They follow strength, if an orc in a leading position doesn't offer that, he'll end up being killed by his own kind pretty fast. And there's ALWAYS. an orc who think he'd do a better job than the current leader
D Bone all true... but who can't love ratbag.
@DraculaCronqvist Orcs have numbers without those numbers they arent much.
He Is like the mortiest morty
@@noneofyourbusiness4294 orcs came from elves?!?!?!
When the orcs and trolls are somehow friendlier and more pleasant than the elves. -_-
Elves were never pleasant. They were supposed to be assholes who had god complexes over men and hobbits as far as I know.
"Legolas, tell me I'm pretty"
Maybe in these new LotR series we will have some friendly orcs, who knows.
That’s because the game lore is screwed up and wrong the elves were intended to be perfect and good, orca ARE CORRUPT elves and URAK HAI are superior breeders. They have no redeeming quality the game strays from the lore and is not fact
Super Mario Pixel man ישוע Elves were intended to be perfect and good, bullshit, have you watched any lotr or hobbit film or read the books. Elves were always perky tall cunts. They’ve always been mad racist as well. Hell even legolas was a racist prick in the hobbit (he did turn it round though)
Ratbag has to be the most loyal of Talion's friends. Didn't even need to brand him, and he was right there with Talion, looking out for him in his own way.
something about uruk and orcs having so much personality is so intriguing to me. More so than if they were humans or elves.
CloudsOverDD that's because their structure of command is based on who the best killer is, it allows them to be more individualistic and more open with their personalities
Seems u never played Wow lol jk
Orcs are currupted elfs, so yeah its not that diferent
Considering they can possibly live as long as elves, it makes sense that a few of them would develop quirky personalities over time.
It's intriguing but also completely wrong really. This big guy is far too clever for an orc. It just wouldn't exist in Tolkien world.
Ratbags friendship is heartwarming. To both you and Ranger.
Bumbleness Supreme Brady so basically to ranger and ranger. Ratbag was right, shit's confusing :D just the same when we had 3 Julias in our class, and the teacher would pick Julia to answer the question, and always got the same response: Which one?
Yeah but you can kinda hear in his voice at the end there that he’s kinda disturbed by what you did to Brûz. I wouldn’t blame him I he started to question your morals.
Now every orc in Mordor will think twice before challenging us. Walks for 3 seconds “HEY MANFILTH!”
GRAVEWALKER!
“Deceiver!”
YOU!!!
🤣😂😂
TALIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
"Isnt there an expression about killing the messenger?"
"Yeah, *ALWAYS* kill the messenger."
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aragorns favorite expression
Brett: you know... you're hopeless
You're a cruel one, Gravewalker. Damn mighty!
Considering this is the only time he says something NOT in a Black Speech - it's more than mighty
Stefan Krunić you forgot,,, *SNORT*
Yea
He finally spoke english and it sends shivers down everyone spines
@@ArgentHunter no
Ratbag is the Tyrion Lannister of Orcs.
a ratbag always pays his debt.
hauAHuahUHAuah
nice
A Ratbag is The Hand Of The Bright Lord
Tyrion and Ratbag 👍👍👍👍
That's what I thought
I don't blame Bruz. He helped set up the siege, stood by your side and fought for you (In my play-through, he was downed multiple times). Then, you give it to a random orc for no real reason. I'd be pissed too.
TheDarkishKnightro
Not really a random orc. More like one of Talion's actual friends that he didn't have to brainwash to get on his side.
I'm talking about the game not letting you choose Ratbag or Bruz
When he betrayed me, I was just like "BITCH, I DIDNT HAVE THE CHOICE TO PICK YOU AS OVERLORD"
Random Orc for no real reason?
Let me tell you about Nazu the Mad.
He was the last chiefs bodyguard.
When i had to face him Nazu screamed something about kettles and outright obliterated the Warchief in 3 hits.
Was downed by the next Chief and Nazu stepped in and beat him to death.
During the Siege he cleared 3 points by himself.
It's hardly random for everyone =p
But yeah, would have chosen Bruz if i could.
*Gonad The Nomad*
Oh shit my bad bro
Fuck man I really like Bruz would have made him overlord if it let me
Destroyer m60 you can, he back to ambush randomly, but you'd have to give a fort to keep him loyal or he'll just betray you again... the personality is gone too
That's a shame his personality is one of the reasons I liked him so much
Destroyer m60 yeah he just mumbles around the fort like a hermit
If you make him an overlord he kills you in public
when i got to the part where i chose my overlord, b4 realizing it wasn't an option, i thought u could slightly change the story by making him the overlord
i like how they gave the olog a lowkey australian accent and named him something that sounds like bruce :')
His mob were the best.
I think it's coincidence...f I recall, he has the same voice actor as Bruce the shark from Finding Nemo xD Pretty neat
@@xninjabluexTV Nah, not the same guy. Bruce from Finding Nemo is voiced by Barry Humphries, the man behind Dame Edna. Bruz, on the other hand, is voiced by a British man named Gideon Emery.
He's based on "mark 'chopper' reid" an infamous australian criminal and personality
"My black speech is a little rusty"
"Actually, I don't know a single word"
Lol
Language is a pain in the arse
I love how Ranger acknowledges that Talion is essentially talking to himself when he is speaking to Celebrimbor.
Brûz is really a prophet of some kind or an Uruk soothsayer troll.. He predicted what would happen in the end.. Right in the beginning!!!
I mean if you collected all the Rune collectables in the first game it outright told you that this is how it was going to end up.
Xander I am saying even all of the Trolls knew that In the game.. But.. Some of them are like spoilers in the beginning of the game for new players
Is Ratbag proof that orcs have the capacity for good even in the LOTR world? I always thought they were inherently evil.
same here
Usually they are, i think if anything Ratbag is just smart enough to know to befriend the guy who's killing the bigger fish.
Ratbag is smart and self aware enough to get over that genetic stuff
This game answered a question I had since childhood. What if there were orcs and other creatures of the dark that didn't want to fight? Be scavengers, farmers, nomads, outcasts or whatnot?
I think Tolkien once said no species is entirely evil.
I went back and re-dominated Bruz and all he says is “I don’t want the fort” in the saddest voice😭😭😭
After i finished this questline i went back to try and get him again to make him overlord XD I ended up ice blasting in hopes of putting him into the grabable state ...instead i think it crit and killed Bruz. Later i found him at the Minus Morgol arena as an undead and cut him in half o3o
I think its funny
I shamed him several times down to level 1. And now I keep him as my pet ready to enjoy for my own amusement
@@drzoidberg5277 you're a cruel one grave Walker.
@@skull_bat His betrayal hurted my feelings. I really liked Bruz.
In the rererere-release of the special extended edition of the movies Ratbag and Ranger will show up at the black gate to help Aragorn and company in the last fight to buy time for Frodo and Sam.
Bruz will also be shown wandering around screaming "ITS YOUR FORTRESS!" "ITS YOUR FORTRESS!"
can you put a link of that ? plz
It's not available yet. They're going to try and hire they editing George Lucas used when he had all the extra crap added to the newer versions of the original Star Wars trilogy.
JC, guys. He was joking
Beas7ie not even close dude this story is before frodo
You mean Reeeeee-release
Sucks that Ratbag and Ranger probably die after the fall of Sauron, Orc hunting parties and all that....
fuck
shit
Piss
nobs
Oh well.
16:40 - "It's Almost like he's talking" man that shit funny as hell when Ranger is actually understanding of what Ratbag says.
i love how talion's all fired up and declared ownership of the fort, and it all got anti climatic when ratbag talked
I adore ratbag. Best ork friend aside from my most loyal follower Nákra the Obsessed who is a Mystic Hunter. I had an old follower i considered to be my most loyal but he betrayed me. Nákra has not only been one of best fighters but has also saved me on multiple occasions. I've grown a bond with him to the point where it be devastated if he was killed or betrayed me.
I want a spinoff game that's all about ratbag. This is easily the best stuff in the game and it's such a small part. To be clear, I don't want dlc. I want Middle Earth: Shadow of Ratbag.
Middle-Rat.
That would be 1000 times better than the new Gollum “game” that came out recently
Ratbag is amazing.
I want this game to be a full-fledged movie. Imagine how good that would be.
"Bright lord, dark lord, same thing really!"
He predicted the entire plot of the game
Poor Bruz. I liked him. He had personality. Like ratbag but smarter.
I'm not gonna lie this game is starting to look pretty cool to me.
It's actually pretty good... some serious moments, some sad moments and then moments like this XD
All the quests take like a week at the most. All the collectible quests are just filler content sadly. Had alot of fun for a week though
Man I really like Bruz. why'd he have to go and do that.
DRFESTERPUS69 It's like big smoke all over again.
Cause all he wanted was a fort... like Bronn in got
you can get him again, u have to wait and get ambushed by him, although his personality is gone
Jeffery Bryski Jr nah I killed that sun of a bitch after what he did
DRFESTERPUS69 yeah, me too :Đ
Whether he admits it or not, Talion has a soft spot for RatBag, so much so that he actually looks back at their time together happily
Spoilersss
Hate how bruz betrays you pissed me off lol I loved him
Steven Sanchez don't worry in the story you don't kill him just shame him so he's not dead and later after that mission he ambushes you randomly so you can just brand him then but you have to make him loyal or else he will keep betraying you so I just gave him the fort and he stayed loyal
Epicgamerxx 2325 yeah but his personality is gone he just kinda mutters about the fort
ThEpCiDeAtH exectly he won't froget about it until he is given the fort
For some reason I didn’t understand the warning. And now I hate myself
RIP Stealthy Weasel.
Geez, even after the shit he pulled its kinda sad seeing Brúz like that in the end
I recruited him again but he ended up being found out as a spy. Next playthrough I'm just going to kill him after his questline. Big lug doesn't deserve being left like that. Baz and Daz were right, breaking his mind was too far.
some girl oh no, i will still rape and pillage them without mercy. I just shed exactly one tear in doing so
some girl No, I don’t feel bad for human cannon fodder #674 is there a problem?
At least Bruz wasn't left saying 'Weeeoooooo wooo woo weeeeeooo woooo.', he at least understood the consequences of his actions.
Swivel Shivel Lmao. I shamed him until he got to level 1 and then cut his head off
Theres a missing scene. When Talion, Celebrimbor, Ratbag, Ranger (Olog) and Bruz are at the fortress, Bruz grabs ratbag and squeezes his torso, breaking a few ribs.
Ratbag ended up being more loyal than Etariel
He was a FAR superior character.
when an Olog calls you cruel....it's time to re-evaluate
I liked Bruz I don't want to lose him I want him on my side for the entire game
The Anime-Falcon you can
I know this comment is from 5 years ago but I leveled up my Bruz and put him as the king
Bruz is 100% the funniest character I've come across in recent years, so flavourful, crazy Aussie, rock solid and hilarious too !! :D
Was disappointed with the Bright Lord not able to keep Bruz loyal. I wanted to be Bruz's best friend!
I love how in this game every orc has a unique personality and a backstory
Makes me want to meet all of them, specially with Brûz, and the singer one (Can't remember his name)
Takara the Bard
i said this when it was announced i knew ratbag was gonna be back and soon there will be a dlc about you playing as ratbag
Really?
Jeffery Bryski Jr yep another vid on yt i posted it before it was out
50crazyOwnz there won’t be a dlc about you playing as ratbag
i didnt say that but its okay eh i actually thought ratbag would be back as a wraith cuz i assumed he was dead xD
"...soon there would be a dlc about you playing as ratbag" looks like you said those exact words to me.
"It's kind of a long story...
Ranger killed the old overlord, now it's ours!"
Talion: celebrimbor! Bruz has betrayed us! How do we punish him?
Celebrimbor: first, distract target. Then block his blind jab. Counter with cross to left cheek. DISCOMBOBULATE. Dazed, he'll attempt wild haymaker, employ elbow block, then body stab. Block feral left, weaken right jaw. Now fracture. Cut open ribs. Traumatize solar plexus. Slice off jaw entirely. Stab to diaphragm. Then shame. In summary, ears ringers, jaw completely removed, 3 ribs dismembered, 4 broken, diaphragm hemorrhaging. Physical recovery probably 1 minute according to gameplay, full psychological recovery, NEVER
Talion: what?
“How do you lose an OLOG”
By being ratbag
ratbag and that olog remind me of roadhog and junkrat.
Except their in a good game.
timon and pumba
Whenever ranger talked English that when you know, he was 100% serious of what he said? 😂
I’m not a big fantasy fan, but this character-building and voice-acting is absolutely brilliant.
I was honestly uncomfortable with how Ratbag looked so disgusted and disappointed in you, right as he was paying his respects.
That's the point.
@@phillipwalling7470 I know.
Hm, ratbag has improved since the last one.
Ranger is a lovely lad as well, they are adorable together
"Bright lord, dark lord, same thing really"
The foreshadowing is crazy
Funny I just noticed Bruz’s first line portrays the overall nature of his questline and forshadows his character; sizing up an impossible situation and saying “Yeah, ill have a go” is exactly what bruz does when he decides to betray you and actually believes he can actually take you down despite knowing that it doesn’t matter how many times talion dies, he’ll always return and likely with the motive of destroying you in every way imaginable
Bright Lord dark lord same thing really. Best foreshadowing.
“Bright Lord, Dark Lord, same thing really” made me laugh so hard the first time I heard it.
*its almost like he's taking* i love ratbag so much
After unlocking the final achievement for Peace In Death, I appointed Bruz as the Overlord for the last fort. Just the way he was standing, all wearied and in despair with lumped shoulders and down turned eyes was a sad sight indeed. It is really bad that there was no alternate choice in which we could have given the fort initially to Bruz, I understand it now because the game intentionally wants us to be like Talion in his footsteps of being turned into a monster. Still, I can't help but feel terrible for Bruz.
(Thanks for reading you guys, happy gaming and good days to you)
Ivan The HyperrealTraveller
What becomes of Bruz is heartbreaking. You robbed him of his mind, he literally only speaks of the fort now. Death would’ve been better.
What I find interesting, well this is how I see it anyway, but Brûz basically let us know the type of person he is before we recruited him. When he calls that Uruk an "opportunist" and says he's the same way, he basically let the players know that he's gonna use us for his own gain. Once he heard that if any other orcs came after us, soon following as well, he came up with the plan to take over the fort in Nurn. It's why he went after our boys that were our bodyguards, warchiefs, and overlord. He also tried to stop RatBag from warning Talion about the fort coming under attack.
He said optimist lol
Bruz goes from calling the overlord "Big as a mountain, and deadly smart", to refusing to work for them. I guess it's a real broken pedestal situation for him. He found out the truth, and was disappointed.
Bruz's first lines in the game foreshadow his eventual treachery.
Bruz came from the worst place in Mordor, Australia
ratbag and bruz are the best orcs in this game i kinda wish i didn't have to make bruz go insane just so i can have convos with him
RATBAG LIIIIIIVES!!!!!!! He was always my favorite
"My black speech is a little rusty -- actually, I don't know a single word; language is a pain in the arse."
Bruz is hilarious, and we'll quote everything he says.
6:02 I love the use of xylophone here! 🤣
Man, the first words allied Bruz has to say was foreshadowing as hell.
"a fine addition to our army"
*Stabs talion in the back*
what i thought ratbag died oh my god yes i love him its so good to see him again
I gotta say, doing such a thing to Bruz - or ANYONE, for that matter - really made me uncomfortable. I know it's just a game and it's not real, yeah I get that, but still. Having suffered a mental breakdown in the past, I could feel the pain that would come from something like this. Shit was awful.
Guess Bruz was right in the beginning.
Yaoi Marik Yeah, you are right,
I used shame on an orc once cos i wanted to lower his level to recruit him for the legendary upgrade but i mistakenly killed him,
Then i shamed another dark tracker and he was really really broken, couldn't even mutter a word just screams and moaning
That was really uncomfortable and felt bad, so i kept him as my bodyguard the entire time in that region and made him overlord
Still doesn't feel right...
That really was a shitty move and i didn't even knew i was doing it...
watch this youtube video called "Shadow of War - Don't shame Orc too much or this will happen", the guy shames an orc so much he becomes unable to speak and just whimpers instead, amazing how they made me feel bad for a twisted war mongering orc that doesn't even exist.
Yaoi Marik yeah it’s fucked up especially since he has to live like that as long as you don’t kill him
I agree, after finishing that mission I instantly disabled the worse than death perk because of two reasons first being I don’t wanna see any other orcs like that and second being they lose to many levels so if u wanna recruit them u then need to level them up again
It's not like the whole thing with Cereal is that he's basically Sauron but blue.
“Bright Lord, Dark Lord, same thing really.”
Brutal foreshadowing
orcs are cooler than elves they have much more personality.
I just figured out that he sounds like Bruce from nemo the shark
"I like him..."
Celebrimbor is awesome, lol.
"Isnt there a saying about messengers?"
"Yeah, always kill the messenger"
Well...shit.
A bit worrying when Orcs and trolls tell you you`re cruel.
Why?
Orcs are typically considered incapable of good. This isn`t exactly true but under Sauron`s influence of evil they certainly are. When did an orc show mercy or kindness in canon? We never see an orc commit a good act. Orcs do secretly resent Sauron and his master Morgoth and they do want to be free despite their evil nature. I believe if left alone and not contacted they would live in peace. This game shows (although not canon) that orcs with their own free will do have some sense of humanity to them. We know through the series Orcs do feel fear and pain. Goes to show that "Good" even in LOTR commits plenty of shady actions.
Ratbag and Ranger, the Timon and Pumba of Middle Earth 😂🤣😂
0:33 THE FUCK????? hes got a face like (am I winning) while hes getting his head ripped off xD
Ratbag returninG is the best thing I've seen
Me] strange thing about the scene I’m. I remember blue boys saying 8:33
Blue boy] he’s right. Orcs follow power. if we allow ourselves to be attacked without retribution. it’ll be seen as a sign of weakness
Brother was so shook he had to tell him that hes cruel in the normal language
You missed some... when you recruit your first few captains after bruz, there is also dialogue... the betrayal... and others :(
Dude just read the subtitles if you want to understand him
"Enough! Kill me! Just end it!"
"No"
The times that brûz actually talked instead of "I DoNt WaNt ThE FOwT"
2:08 I never knew how to do that sound until I saw him do it.
What the hell?
When that helmet came off and ratbag started talking the first words out of my mouth were "fuck sake"
i feel extremely sad for bruz no one deserved to be broken
Blame celebrimor for that that old bastard really has no heart i felt so bad for bruz i even recruited him again
I’m so sad bruz had to betray you. I freaking loved him
This was really enjoyable
16:17 god damn that growl
You can see him immediately shake off the domination at 1:11
That moment when Ratbag is a better developed character than a playable DLC character.
Which one?
That total bitch Eltariel.
Ranger is the best XD
"Learn some black speech... You're embarasing him "
I like how bruz says define focus and talion doesn't answer
I just love the personality of Bruz
I only played this game this year when it was free on PS+, and I loved Bruz. Sad to say, once he betrayed me, I sworn to shame all Olog captains I run into, and not one Olog has made it to warchief in any of my fortresses.
Olog, Uruk, same thing really.
For the one still playing: Bruz is on the map and in the game after the shaming as every other orc and he can be recruited again (if he is not/lost resistance to recruit). I had Bruz as captain again. His powers are still there even he will never be the same as before.
I always felt bad for Bruz! If I could have my way I would never do him like that!! I would’ve made him overlord in a heartbeat! He’s such a cool character, and after I broke him, it just made me sad to see and hear him. I re-dominated him, and it still just wasn’t the same. I thought in my next save I would try to make him a maniac, but it never happened. I could skirt around him, but at random one of orcs came in and killed him. Is it even possible to turn him into a maniac?
When he said. " it's almost like he's talkin... I lost it!
6:06 When a surprise boss appears in any game and your unprepared for him.