Lol!!! If only I could develop a doll in his likeness with a pull string. Yank on the string and any of his quips come spilling out. It would certainly be marketable.
Nigel, a good Yule season and Solstice, to you and all your community members. Thank you, your walks and talks never cease to inform and inspire. Like many believe and I also believe that Nature and Nature's God speaks to us as we look into the natural world and listen and gain insight. Look forward to your next video.
This post really resonated with me Nigel as over the years I’ve had my eyes opened and gradually pulled back from the religious teachings of my childhood. I don’t know what it’s called but I feel spiritual when I’m in nature and have a deep and reverence to Mother Earth ❤
@@primalengland my thinking exactly! Just on a side note Nigel, why do you think our Anglo-Saxon heritage is being erased when other types of heritage are celebrated? I also get this feeling as if we should be embracing others to the detriment of our own. This country has a very rich tapestry of history which should not be forgotten and it seems to me that it has been deliberately erased especially pre Christianity
It seems like the respect for nature back then was out of fear. As now adays you can love and apreate nature freely and genuinely. The majn issue is we take everything for granted because of our majorly overconvient world. Im beyond grateful that i dont have to sacrifice my neighbor to get my tomatoes to grow but we need to show more respect and love for this beautiful world we have been allowed to park our butts on for a small amount of time.
Freja is not the goddess of summer. She is the goddess of love and war! - I have had history and especially the church as my interest for many years. About 22 years ago I went to a viking market. Things changed: There was so much knowledge in this way of living. I have always liked the ancient gods. Some years later I bought a handmade finger ring at a market and when I wear it I feel peace and alert on things around me. So I quit the church few years ago as I couldn't relate anymore. I don't dress up as viking but I live more according to nature now. Guess I'm a pagan now 😊 A nice day to you and sweet Molly 🍂
@@lenepedersen5506 Freyja is the Goddess of love and war. Freyr is her brother, as I understand it. He was the god of summer. Did I say Goddess in the video? I’m sorry if I did. I’m usually just talking off the top of my head, but thinking about what I’m going to say next, to keep the flow. Mistakes often creep in. Sometimes I try to edit around them, but sometimes I just miss them completely.
@ My routine in old age has changed. I rise earlier now than I did when I worked, even though I now have the opportunity to stay in bed longer. Opening the blinds every morning gives me a ‘Right, let’s get on with it’ feeling.
Dear Nigel, The Old Ones are still here. As are all the spirits that have always been. They are a part of this natural world of ours. And when someone such as yourself takes the time to truly connect and love Nature..... they, in their own way, do love and appreciate it. They walk along with you and Molly! I'll dare to say that the two of you are quite dear to them. ❤ Take care. Stay warm and safe. Love & Light to you both. ❤🌎🌍🌏❤
Thank you. I can only hope that’s true. My spirituality ends with nature. I see nature as the deity I need. Perhaps I am missing out by not letting my mind take that next step. ❤️❤️
@@primalengland Speaking from an indigenous viewpoint it's not so much about the mind, it's more about the heart and having that deep respect for everything Mother Earth blesses us with. Without Her, we two leggeds, four leggeds, the standing nation (plants/trees), the Wingeds (bird nation)and everything that crawls, flies and swims would cease to be. I think you're in the right heart space Nigel. In my traditional language we say, Mitakuye O'yasin - we are all related. Not just we humans. ✌💞
Most of our days per week are named after pagan gods, and one a Roman add on. Had to explain that to esl students who were confused by the names ( Wednesday/ Woden' s day).
Nigel, sorry it's been a bit! Got a few "troubles" going on. Anyway, I have the SAME BLUE HAT! LOL! Very interesting post. I long for the day we could wander together and have the rich discussions, I know we would! BLESSINGS to YOU and MOLLY this Christmas Season!!! CHEERS and CARRY ON, Nigel!!! Your Friend, Jeff✌️💙🐺🌈🎄🙏✝️💯😇
My “English” heritage is Viking and Irish. On my dad’s side is Muskogee (Native American)….so I have a lot of gods and goddesses. They all feel the same…Nature. There is a quiet strength in nature that is deeply profound.
They were based in nature, and nature that we still hold in awe: Sea, Seasons, Woodland, Weather. It was quite simple back in the day. You knew where you were with proper God.
I have always been opinionated and unable to keep my views to myself. I always think that if one person can get a bit of something useful out of my ramblings, then that’s a job well done. Just make people think, because we are discouraged from thinking.
Religious leanings in a person isn’t something I’ve ever considered. In fact, in my long life, I don’t think I could tell you who was religious and who wasn’t, or what religion they worshipped. We just got along, went to the pub, had the occasional fall out but would still have died for each other.
One could argue that your view on the Evolution of Deity Throughout the Existence of Earth might be plausible under the implementation of some concept of Tardis! This yet not fully grasped system of time movement could well explain Vikings having to accept the existence of oil rigs in the stormy North Sea! Right in their right of way! 🤔 Live long and prosper!🖖🏼 Oh no! 😮 Love and Peace to You All out there!🌈🦄 And hugs for Molly🐕🤗 🪷
2 years ago my teen daughter stumbled across the "Iron Druid" series by Kevin Hearne. Just a tad steamy but nothing much happening on that front, the well-built hero with glistening biceps (and everything) travels through the layers of Deity quite cunningly. Intelligently constructed! She got another series of Hearne's I still have to read "Ink and s th ..."
I can trace my ancestors back to 1300s on some sides of my tree & back to the year 1700 on my patriarchal side from Ulster NI. I’m a very happy Christian though & I’m thankful to be raised with that.
@@LauraSnow-in3nx And so you should be. I just think the Gods of pre-Christianity were fascinating and poetic and rousing in their folklore. Gods on mountaintops controlling the world, and kindly Gods and Godesses living in forests. Our ancestors really knew how to dream up a deity.
I'd love to know who and where my heritage is from , I tried to have a look at my family tree but there were one or two shenanigans, folk born out of wedlock so lost the thred, always had a fondness for the goddess is Hestia keeper of the hearth and home. Could just imagine you skipping across the oars of a longship 😊
I love Viking heritage and wrote a short saga about Vikings invading England in the 800s. Part of it was the sound of longboats crashing through the waves, with drum beats and oarsmen chanting. I may have attempted skipping across the oars perhaps 50 years ago. Now I’m just happy to skip into the kitchen to put the kettle on. 😊
@primalengland I would be very interested in reading your viking saga and got massively into the Vikings when it streamed on one of the channels a couple of years ago now, Have you heard of the group Wardruna, I'd recommend you give them a listen, they are playing next year in Liverpool and wanted to go and see them won't be able to cos I'm bit poorly at the moment xx
@@pamelawalton1255 I’ve watched some Wardruna on TH-cam. I love Heilung, and they are practically on loop in the car. I’d love to see them. The saga I wrote was a musical piece. It’s quite basic. It’s on my Bandcamp channel.
@ It’s on my nigelboydell.bandcamp.com site. Like I say, it’s quite simple, but was fun to make. The very few vocals are in ancient Nordic and ancient Anglo-Saxon
The gods were worshipped because life was scary and they provided a "reason" for the dangers. The sagas and stories are wonderful, tales to tell in the dark winter. Gods die when they are no longer needed. Is that a bad thing? From a "colour of life" aspect - possibly. But wherever you get gods you also get those that really, really believe in them - that will brook no argument about the interpretation of their will. Do not forget that the pagan Norse and Anglo-Saxons practiced human sacrifice on a grand scale - to appease the gods. We have a very, very rose-tinted view of those times. Rather than gods - look to local folklore instead for the colour. Look to the old tracks, the Black Dogs, the Will-O-The-Wisps. Leave gods to die.
I did mention human sacrifice. By all means let the Gods die, but do not forget that they existed in our folklore, and were very real to the people of the day. To erase from history the things that we ‘modern’ civilisations deem uncomfortable and celebrated only that that isn’t a threat, will look really weird in a couple of hundred years.
@primalengland I agree, but there is a trend in modern paganism to make it "nice" and to ignore the more difficult and challenging bits of the old religions. Look at fairies...
You do make me laugh! The gods aren't gone - they've just been pushed to one side by modern life. I think you'd be surprised how many people still quietly celebrate the old festivals. Even the Christians celebrate them but they don't realise it. Easter, Christmas, Halloween, to name but a few, are all pagan festivals. Jul is coming so let's get the fires burning and celebrate! Hugs!
The Gods aren’t gone, but only because some people celebrate them. I posted a similar video some years ago. I think it may have been on my other channel, where my opinions are a little more robust, and got into a back and forth with someone who was most indignant because I questioned the origin of Christmas. It was like I’d gone round to their house and thrown up on their children. 😁 I have only two close friends. One is a Buddhist and the other a Pagan. I have been told I am both, by both. They are both female and a bit younger than me, but it feels like I’m being claimed like some surrogate son. I quite enjoy it. 😊
Just thinking all the wars between different religions and beliefs around the world historically and to this day has resulted in alot of misery and deaths. Kings and queens and now trump in the states wants to have the church on their side. An endorsement they hoped would put the public on their side and to make cruel actions easier to implement. Many wars fought over religion. I was born an anglican to british parents, however i believe that we are all praying to a supreme being or creator. How can any religion dare to say that theirs is the only true teachings. Look at how many christians, muslims, buddists, etc etc etc are in this world. No one religion or belief has a right to say they are superior. I look at gods or mother natures handiwork everyday out my window everyday. I believe in spirituality not a specific religion. I go to church everyday when i step out in nature. I am fortunate to live in a log cabin in the wilderness of northern ontario canada. Have a great day folks. John and jack russel Simba
I’ve always struggled with religions per se. Too much baggage and too many commitments. Too many questions and too much persecution. I’m a simple man, and nature doesn’t expect anything of me and doesn’t preach or dictate terms. I’ll go with that.
But academia has an agenda. All I’m asking is for a fantasy….. A fantasy that dictated the lives and cruel deaths of thousands of years of civilisation… it’s as real as the reality of Mary Seacole, who was a bright lass, not doubting it, but no way a Nightingale.
@ I get it. But there is a bit of truth in everything, and half-truths as well. We all have an agenda in pursuit of our personal fantasies. It’s the pleasure agenda. And, I am sure that institutions suffer the same. But I get what you are saying. We are all in search of some sort of unfiltered experience - and it seems that our ancestors were closer to this sort of thing than us. But how is this to be measured? Not sure. I do love the ideas you bring up in your talks. Thanks for your thoughtfulness!
06:10 "Nobody teaches our kids about gods any more". I don't know if this is true but, if so, it's a bad thing. Sadly many modern kids, rather than learning about the rich and varied culture of religions, are being indoctrinated and taught to worship, for example the recent instructions in parts of the USA for classrooms to have the Ten Commandments on display which is paving the way for a more fundamentalist approach. Christianity (obviously the Ten Commandments pre-dates Jesus somewhat but I think you get my drift) in the US is not the only culprit here; Islam, Hinduism, Judaism are all guilty to some degree. I was lucky having been educated in the UK state system in the 1960's where Christian religious education (RE) was mandated by law, it was taught in a very relaxed manner and, by the time I finished school in the early 70's, RE was more like a standard 'humanities' subject. I say, "Learn about the gods, all of them, treat them as an area of study similar to history, all religions are equal". I do not say, "Get on your knees and worship the one true Lord!" 😉No one knows the absolute truth so learn it all and be relaxed about it. Cheers👍🏼
I was also in the UK education system, and know exactly what you mean about RE. We were encouraged to discuss rather than just take on board. I am only one of a couple of people in my family who aren’t teachers. Both my kids are. My daughter, who is an acting head, gets frustrated at the confines in which she has to teach, and the lack of encouragement to think and to question. It’s as if education hasn’t built in any time to debate, question and disagree. I’ve got a bit of pushback over this post. I think that’s my fault. I failed to express exactly what I meant. I feel that most people would be fascinated by the concept of Pagan Gods, and gatherings of Gods on the summit of Olympus. It may not be relevant today, but neither was the tv series ‘Ripping Yarns’….. and we all watched that.
Liked the bit about Ostara,even so im Christian in a nod to her. i burie a hardboiled egg and a piece of easter cake in my garden every year. I thought the Faries steal the children ,or is that only in Ireland?
Hello Nigel, that was great. But Paganism is coming back big time. I think a lot of people are disenchanted with the Abrahamic religions ( myself included) and are searching for a spiritual path. Paganism, being Nature based, is very alluring and satisfying. So take heart, dear Friend, the God's are not done. ❤ Take care of you and Molly. 😊
I'm a descendent from 3 different Israel tribes & Germany. Yeshua Messiah hates child sacrifice and why many were put to death. I wish you peace and love.
Have you considered the possibility that there really is a God, Creator of the universe and that there is one Truth and if one Truth does really exist it would be worth seeking to the exclusion of that which is not true?
Yes, I’ve considered the possibility of several deities over the years. My father was devout, and I feel I was a disappointment. It will always be an albatross round my neck to think I was a disappointment to such a great man. I have chosen my road, and the things that bring me spiritual joy. I respect everyone’s right to pray to whichever God they wish. I identify as an agnostic, but that is just a bit cowardly. I suppose I’m hedging my bets, but no matter how I try, my spirituality lies in the nature around me. People suggest Paganism, but that’s just more Gods to deal with. I love the Gods of Olympus and of The Norse Lands. The Gods of Asia and those worshipped by Native Americans, but only in the abstract. I don’t believe they existed, but I believe the power they wielded..
@@primalengland I certainly agree that we should respect that everyone has a right to believe or not, as they wish. Yet there can be only one Truth. Either the One God exists or He/She does not. Either the Norse gods exist or they do not. Etc. As an agnostic, shouldn't you seek the Truth?
@@primalenglandI am new to your channel but I can completely relate to you. I am in my 60s, brought up a Catholic in the UK. In my 40s I studied Theology at university and left organised religion. I studied Buddhism and still value Buddhist philosophy. In recent years I have been drawn to Wicca. I am interested in the myths and legends of Paganism but see them more as archetypes. The goddess was worshipoed way before the god. I do not put a label on my spirituality. I dont feel a need to. I love Nature and that is the centre of my spirituality. I do not like organised religion and always felt there was no place for me there as a woman. That is one reason why so many women are turning away from organised religion and finding their voice in Wicca and Pagan spifituality. Thank you for talking about the old gods and a Blessed Yule to you.😊
@@primalenglandiI dont think it is cowardly to be agnostic. None of us 'know' for certain although religious people claim they are certain. I am quite happy to say 'I dont know'. All I know is that I feel very spiritual out in Nature and I dont need an ancient book to tell me how to live.
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"The Old Gods had MySpace...and Dial-up." 🤣🤣
@@66bub You’re way too young to remember that. 😊
Lol!!! If only I could develop a doll in his likeness with a pull string. Yank on the string and any of his quips come spilling out. It would certainly be marketable.
Oh I shall chuckle for a long time about the Vikings avoiding oil rigs 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha. I honestly do not know where Nigel get some of this stuff from. LOL. I guess you "CAN make this stuff up".
It’s all true. Ragnar Loftrustson told me.
My ancestors came from Scandinavia too. Wonder if i could get a swedish passport 😂
I’d settle for some lederhosen. 😊
Nigel, a good Yule season and Solstice, to you and all your community members. Thank you, your walks and talks never cease to inform and inspire. Like many believe and I also believe that Nature and Nature's God speaks to us as we look into the natural world and listen and gain insight. Look forward to your next video.
Thank you. I just recorded my latest video this afternoon. I think it will be out on Monday. 😊👍
This post really resonated with me Nigel as over the years I’ve had my eyes opened and gradually pulled back from the religious teachings of my childhood. I don’t know what it’s called but I feel spiritual when I’m in nature and have a deep and reverence to Mother Earth ❤
We are very similar, Deborah. I get a spiritual experience in nature, without the need for a deity. Perhaps nature is the deity.
@@primalengland my thinking exactly! Just on a side note Nigel, why do you think our Anglo-Saxon heritage is being erased when other types of heritage are celebrated? I also get this feeling as if we should be embracing others to the detriment of our own. This country has a very rich tapestry of history which should not be forgotten and it seems to me that it has been deliberately erased especially pre Christianity
You do make me chackle - that's cackle and chuckle - at the things you come up with. Keep going and don't slip - it looks wet out there!
It’s really slippery, and I’ve got a poorly ankle, so today’s walk was more of a wobble. 😊
@primalengland 😥
Thanks Nigel for those wise words. You gave me a good laugh - and I don't mean that in a bad way!! 🤣🤣
It seems like the respect for nature back then was out of fear. As now adays you can love and apreate nature freely and genuinely. The majn issue is we take everything for granted because of our majorly overconvient world. Im beyond grateful that i dont have to sacrifice my neighbor to get my tomatoes to grow but we need to show more respect and love for this beautiful world we have been allowed to park our butts on for a small amount of time.
There is usually one neighbour on the road that sacrificing for tomatoes would be less painful. Lol just kidding
@@simbajohn1882 haha 😄
@@simbajohn1882 😂
You’ve made the gods happy today
Now, that would be a really good day. 😊
Freja is not the goddess of summer. She is the goddess of love and war! - I have had history and especially the church as my interest for many years. About 22 years ago I went to a viking market. Things changed: There was so much knowledge in this way of living. I have always liked the ancient gods. Some years later I bought a handmade finger ring at a market and when I wear it I feel peace and alert on things around me. So I quit the church few years ago as I couldn't relate anymore. I don't dress up as viking but I live more according to nature now. Guess I'm a pagan now 😊 A nice day to you and sweet Molly 🍂
@@lenepedersen5506 Freyja is the Goddess of love and war. Freyr is her brother, as I understand it. He was the god of summer. Did I say Goddess in the video? I’m sorry if I did. I’m usually just talking off the top of my head, but thinking about what I’m going to say next, to keep the flow. Mistakes often creep in. Sometimes I try to edit around them, but sometimes I just miss them completely.
@@primalenglandplease stay the same…yes you pronounced it correctly and as the god of summer. ❤
❤ Loved the video, Yes Ragnar, I have watched Vikings so so many times. My absolute favorite..Thank you
Good morning, 5am here, up since 2am drinking coffee watching you,,,
Am I to be blamed for your insomnia? 😊
@primalengland haha, NO. My normal mornings in old age, read my Bible an hour, then check e-mail, etc.
@@primalengland only sleep 5 hrs a night with a 2 hr afternoon nap.
@ My routine in old age has changed. I rise earlier now than I did when I worked, even though I now have the opportunity to stay in bed longer. Opening the blinds every morning gives me a ‘Right, let’s get on with it’ feeling.
@@michaelduncan6287never sleep during the day for more than 15 minutes, that’s why you can’t sleep at night xx
Excellent! ond, don't forget the Duwiau Cymraeg.. Hwyl, Taffy Nige 🤘✌️
Dear Nigel, The Old Ones are still here. As are all the spirits that have always been. They are a part of this natural world of ours. And when someone such as yourself takes the time to truly connect and love Nature..... they, in their own way, do love and appreciate it. They walk along with you and Molly! I'll dare to say that the two of you are quite dear to them. ❤ Take care. Stay warm and safe. Love & Light to you both. ❤🌎🌍🌏❤
Thank you. I can only hope that’s true. My spirituality ends with nature. I see nature as the deity I need. Perhaps I am missing out by not letting my mind take that next step. ❤️❤️
@@primalengland Speaking from an indigenous viewpoint it's not so much about the mind, it's more about the heart and having that deep respect for everything Mother Earth blesses us with. Without Her, we two leggeds, four leggeds, the standing nation (plants/trees), the Wingeds (bird nation)and everything that crawls, flies and swims would cease to be. I think you're in the right heart space Nigel.
In my traditional language we say, Mitakuye O'yasin - we are all related. Not just we humans. ✌💞
Most of our days per week are named after pagan gods, and one a Roman add on. Had to explain that to esl students who were confused by the names
( Wednesday/ Woden' s day).
I love the history lesson ✌️❤️
Nigel, sorry it's been a bit! Got a few "troubles" going on. Anyway, I have the SAME BLUE HAT! LOL! Very interesting post. I long for the day we could wander together and have the rich discussions, I know we would! BLESSINGS to YOU and MOLLY this Christmas Season!!! CHEERS and CARRY ON, Nigel!!! Your Friend, Jeff✌️💙🐺🌈🎄🙏✝️💯😇
P.S. I forgot to tell you, MY FAVORITE SONG is SAXON'S "HAMMER OF THE GODS"!!!!!!!🦅🇬🇧
My “English” heritage is Viking and Irish. On my dad’s side is Muskogee (Native American)….so I have a lot of gods and goddesses. They all feel the same…Nature. There is a quiet strength in nature that is deeply profound.
They were based in nature, and nature that we still hold in awe: Sea, Seasons, Woodland, Weather. It was quite simple back in the day. You knew where you were with proper God.
@ I agree.
Thanks mate, you never dissapoint😄😄
Thanks, Seamus. 😊👍
Well said.!
Thanks. 😊
You are teaching people about the Old Gods by making this video.
I have always been opinionated and unable to keep my views to myself. I always think that if one person can get a bit of something useful out of my ramblings, then that’s a job well done. Just make people think, because we are discouraged from thinking.
I respect everyone's own beliefs, as long as it's not imposed upon me. We don't even have to agree to disagree as we coexist.
Religious leanings in a person isn’t something I’ve ever considered. In fact, in my long life, I don’t think I could tell you who was religious and who wasn’t, or what religion they worshipped. We just got along, went to the pub, had the occasional fall out but would still have died for each other.
@@primalengland And this is how it should be. Makes life more pleasurable.
One could argue that your view on the Evolution of Deity Throughout the Existence of Earth might be plausible under the implementation of some concept of Tardis!
This yet not fully grasped system of time movement could well explain Vikings having to accept the existence of oil rigs in the stormy North Sea! Right in their right of way! 🤔
Live long and prosper!🖖🏼
Oh no! 😮 Love and Peace to You All out there!🌈🦄
And hugs for Molly🐕🤗
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Are you doubting facts?! 😡 or are you The Doctor?
I'm just keeping my 1 penny in the bank - just in case I'll have to pay my fare in Walhalla!
And to be on the safe side ... Hail Ragnar!🪷
2 years ago my teen daughter stumbled across the "Iron Druid" series by Kevin Hearne. Just a tad steamy but nothing much happening on that front, the well-built hero with glistening biceps (and everything) travels through the layers of Deity quite cunningly.
Intelligently constructed!
She got another series of Hearne's I still have to read "Ink and s th ..."
I can trace my ancestors back to 1300s on some sides of my tree & back to the year 1700 on my patriarchal side from Ulster NI.
I’m a very happy Christian though & I’m thankful to be raised with that.
@@LauraSnow-in3nx And so you should be. I just think the Gods of pre-Christianity were fascinating and poetic and rousing in their folklore. Gods on mountaintops controlling the world, and kindly Gods and Godesses living in forests. Our ancestors really knew how to dream up a deity.
Oh, this was delicious! 👍😎🇨🇦🙏✌️💝
Rant over. Normal service will be resumed. 😊❤️
I'd love to know who and where my heritage is from , I tried to have a look at my family tree but there were one or two shenanigans, folk born out of wedlock so lost the thred, always had a fondness for the goddess is Hestia keeper of the hearth and home. Could just imagine you skipping across the oars of a longship 😊
I love Viking heritage and wrote a short saga about Vikings invading England in the 800s. Part of it was the sound of longboats crashing through the waves, with drum beats and oarsmen chanting. I may have attempted skipping across the oars perhaps 50 years ago. Now I’m just happy to skip into the kitchen to put the kettle on. 😊
@primalengland I would be very interested in reading your viking saga and got massively into the Vikings when it streamed on one of the channels a couple of years ago now, Have you heard of the group Wardruna, I'd recommend you give them a listen, they are playing next year in Liverpool and wanted to go and see them won't be able to cos I'm bit poorly at the moment xx
@@pamelawalton1255 I’ve watched some Wardruna on TH-cam. I love Heilung, and they are practically on loop in the car. I’d love to see them.
The saga I wrote was a musical piece. It’s quite basic. It’s on my Bandcamp channel.
@@primalengland Nigel I'll give it a listen if I may xxx
@ It’s on my nigelboydell.bandcamp.com site. Like I say, it’s quite simple, but was fun to make. The very few vocals are in ancient Nordic and ancient Anglo-Saxon
My DNA is 63% English 18% Scottish & 4% Welch. 🙌🏻
@@LauraSnow-in3nx so you always at odds with yourself then
You mean "Welsh"😊
The gods were worshipped because life was scary and they provided a "reason" for the dangers. The sagas and stories are wonderful, tales to tell in the dark winter. Gods die when they are no longer needed. Is that a bad thing? From a "colour of life" aspect - possibly. But wherever you get gods you also get those that really, really believe in them - that will brook no argument about the interpretation of their will. Do not forget that the pagan Norse and Anglo-Saxons practiced human sacrifice on a grand scale - to appease the gods. We have a very, very rose-tinted view of those times.
Rather than gods - look to local folklore instead for the colour. Look to the old tracks, the Black Dogs, the Will-O-The-Wisps. Leave gods to die.
I did mention human sacrifice. By all means let the Gods die, but do not forget that they existed in our folklore, and were very real to the people of the day.
To erase from history the things that we ‘modern’ civilisations deem uncomfortable and celebrated only that that isn’t a threat, will look really weird in a couple of hundred years.
@primalengland I agree, but there is a trend in modern paganism to make it "nice" and to ignore the more difficult and challenging bits of the old religions. Look at fairies...
You do make me laugh! The gods aren't gone - they've just been pushed to one side by modern life. I think you'd be surprised how many people still quietly celebrate the old festivals. Even the Christians celebrate them but they don't realise it. Easter, Christmas, Halloween, to name but a few, are all pagan festivals. Jul is coming so let's get the fires burning and celebrate! Hugs!
The Gods aren’t gone, but only because some people celebrate them.
I posted a similar video some years ago. I think it may have been on my other channel, where my opinions are a little more robust, and got into a back and forth with someone who was most indignant because I questioned the origin of Christmas. It was like I’d gone round to their house and thrown up on their children. 😁
I have only two close friends. One is a Buddhist and the other a Pagan. I have been told I am both, by both. They are both female and a bit younger than me, but it feels like I’m being claimed like some surrogate son. I quite enjoy it. 😊
Just thinking all the wars between different religions and beliefs around the world historically and to this day has resulted in alot of misery and deaths. Kings and queens and now trump in the states wants to have the church on their side. An endorsement they hoped would put the public on their side and to make cruel actions easier to implement. Many wars fought over religion. I was born an anglican to british parents, however i believe that we are all praying to a supreme being or creator. How can any religion dare to say that theirs is the only true teachings. Look at how many christians, muslims, buddists, etc etc etc are in this world. No one religion or belief has a right to say they are superior. I look at gods or mother natures handiwork everyday out my window everyday. I believe in spirituality not a specific religion. I go to church everyday when i step out in nature. I am fortunate to live in a log cabin in the wilderness of northern ontario canada. Have a great day folks. John and jack russel Simba
I’ve always struggled with religions per se. Too much baggage and too many commitments. Too many questions and too much persecution. I’m a simple man, and nature doesn’t expect anything of me and doesn’t preach or dictate terms. I’ll go with that.
Thanks Nigel. Take care.
I agree. Religion has caused a lot of misery in the world.
@@primalengland I can relate to that. 😊
And those gods replaced the ones before. Academia did this? Academia reveals this! Love your talks….
But academia has an agenda. All I’m asking is for a fantasy….. A fantasy that dictated the lives and cruel deaths of thousands of years of civilisation… it’s as real as the reality of Mary Seacole, who was a bright lass, not doubting it, but no way a Nightingale.
@ I get it. But there is a bit of truth in everything, and half-truths as well. We all have an agenda in pursuit of our personal fantasies. It’s the pleasure agenda. And, I am sure that institutions suffer the same. But I get what you are saying. We are all in search of some sort of unfiltered experience - and it seems that our ancestors were closer to this sort of thing than us. But how is this to be measured? Not sure. I do love the ideas you bring up in your talks. Thanks for your thoughtfulness!
06:10 "Nobody teaches our kids about gods any more". I don't know if this is true but, if so, it's a bad thing.
Sadly many modern kids, rather than learning about the rich and varied culture of religions, are being indoctrinated and taught to worship, for example the recent instructions in parts of the USA for classrooms to have the Ten Commandments on display which is paving the way for a more fundamentalist approach. Christianity (obviously the Ten Commandments pre-dates Jesus somewhat but I think you get my drift) in the US is not the only culprit here; Islam, Hinduism, Judaism are all guilty to some degree. I was lucky having been educated in the UK state system in the 1960's where Christian religious education (RE) was mandated by law, it was taught in a very relaxed manner and, by the time I finished school in the early 70's, RE was more like a standard 'humanities' subject.
I say, "Learn about the gods, all of them, treat them as an area of study similar to history, all religions are equal". I do not say, "Get on your knees and worship the one true Lord!" 😉No one knows the absolute truth so learn it all and be relaxed about it. Cheers👍🏼
I was also in the UK education system, and know exactly what you mean about RE. We were encouraged to discuss rather than just take on board.
I am only one of a couple of people in my family who aren’t teachers. Both my kids are. My daughter, who is an acting head, gets frustrated at the confines in which she has to teach, and the lack of encouragement to think and to question. It’s as if education hasn’t built in any time to debate, question and disagree.
I’ve got a bit of pushback over this post. I think that’s my fault. I failed to express exactly what I meant. I feel that most people would be fascinated by the concept of Pagan Gods, and gatherings of Gods on the summit of Olympus. It may not be relevant today, but neither was the tv series ‘Ripping Yarns’….. and we all watched that.
Liked the bit about Ostara,even so im Christian in a nod to her. i burie a hardboiled egg and a piece of easter cake in my garden every year. I thought the Faries steal the children ,or is that only in Ireland?
That happened all over northern Europe, but I think it was only in Ireland where adults were also taken. Can’t trust them Oirish Faeries.
@primalengland 🤣🤣 so much for UNITED Kingdom
@@angelikac6767 we love each other really. 😊
@primalengland was just joking, all things considered, now may be a good time to give Odin a nodd too,carve a protective symbol of his in your lintel
Hello Nigel, that was great. But Paganism is coming back big time. I think a lot of people are disenchanted with the Abrahamic religions ( myself included) and are searching for a spiritual path. Paganism, being Nature based, is very alluring and satisfying. So take heart, dear Friend, the God's are not done. ❤ Take care of you and Molly. 😊
I'm a descendent from 3 different Israel tribes & Germany. Yeshua Messiah hates child sacrifice and why many were put to death. I wish you peace and love.
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Have you considered the possibility that there really is a God, Creator of the universe and that there is one Truth and if one Truth does really exist it would be worth seeking to the exclusion of that which is not true?
Yes, I’ve considered the possibility of several deities over the years. My father was devout, and I feel I was a disappointment. It will always be an albatross round my neck to think I was a disappointment to such a great man. I have chosen my road, and the things that bring me spiritual joy. I respect everyone’s right to pray to whichever God they wish. I identify as an agnostic, but that is just a bit cowardly. I suppose I’m hedging my bets, but no matter how I try, my spirituality lies in the nature around me. People suggest Paganism, but that’s just more Gods to deal with.
I love the Gods of Olympus and of The Norse Lands. The Gods of Asia and those worshipped by Native Americans, but only in the abstract. I don’t believe they existed, but I believe the power they wielded..
@@primalengland I certainly agree that we should respect that everyone has a right to believe or not, as they wish. Yet there can be only one Truth. Either the One God exists or He/She does not. Either the Norse gods exist or they do not. Etc. As an agnostic, shouldn't you seek the Truth?
@@primalenglandI am new to your channel but I can completely relate to you. I am in my 60s, brought up a Catholic in the UK. In my 40s I studied Theology at university and left organised religion. I studied Buddhism and still value Buddhist philosophy. In recent years I have been drawn to Wicca. I am interested in the myths and legends of Paganism but see them more as archetypes. The goddess was worshipoed way before the god. I do not put a label on my spirituality. I dont feel a need to. I love Nature and that is the centre of my spirituality. I do not like organised religion and always felt there was no place for me there as a woman. That is one reason why so many women are turning away from organised religion and finding their voice in Wicca and Pagan spifituality. Thank you for talking about the old gods and a Blessed Yule to you.😊
Which god are you referring to? Christian, Hindu, Muslim, etc, etc.
@@primalenglandiI dont think it is cowardly to be agnostic. None of us 'know' for certain although religious people claim they are certain. I am quite happy to say 'I dont know'. All I know is that I feel very spiritual out in Nature and I dont need an ancient book to tell me how to live.