the plot hole of robbie being hannah's dad AND manager while being miley's dad as well bothered me sm !!! the makeup department didn't even try for robbie's disguise it's so funny 😭
the most unrealistic thing about Hannah Montana is that she being the biggest pop star in the world, doesn't have a horde of stalker obsessive fans dedicated to find out her real identity who would've probably put two and two together by the middle of first season
@@gracekim1998 I totally agree, if it was, realistic it would be a drama not a comedy. There are already a lot, of dramas out there, that have a similar title.
Yeah but also, where do people think she lives? Cus with like pretty much all A-list celebrities irl, you could find out where they live really easily.
@@rediamond7818okay but ice spice who? in the hannah montana universe shes like beyonce or britney spears level of famous (or thats how they make it seem lmao) and most ppl irl dont even know who ice spice is so thats not a good comparison 😭
“Green girl” here. I just realized I don’t know if it’s common knowledge that these episodes were largely filmed out of order in each season, which in retrospect makes some character arcs seem insanely inconsistent lol. Thanks for entertaining me during my day job!
Ik for Kim Possible, they aired the episodes out of chronological order so it makes no sense if you watch in airing order (which is what I did through reruns back in 2005-6). Safe to say, I'm not shocked that Hannah Montana probably had the same problem
With Hannah Montana the Movie, I was always confused about why Lilly forgave Miley so quickly, but now hearing each episode breakdown, I guess they went for continuity
The way Lily says that line about how she’s never going to be able to make it up to her. I really thought we were about to dive into Hannah/Miley treats Lily only for her to forgive her two seconds later. It sucks that she decided that her double life was becoming too much because she couldn’t properly date a boy she just met. But she didn’t realize that when it was constantly fucking her best friend over.
I'm not happy that there's been about 2500 views and I can't find a single comment admiring the vocal delight of Seamus singing each song title out to different covers. It's honestly more iconic and entertaining just waiting for which cover is next compared to the review of the episode
the fact the you never once mentioned their neighbor, and nemesis, mr. dontzig is truly an act of cruelty beyond words. he was a STAPLE on the show, seamus.
With the whole confusion on miley not having any money, yet somehow being rich. I rationalize this all to being robby ray taking care of all her finances and deciding what/when she can spend. If shes hannah montana, theres more leeway to keep up with appearances. On the credit card episode, robby ray before probably thought she wasnt responsible enough to spend her own money, and then she wasnt.
There is a whole real life ethical issue with child stars being taken advantage of their parents to take care of all the finances, but in this show I don't think it's the case because she does get some allowance for things she wants like clothes, she was the one who wanted the double life and being normal half the time, and she's very young and not old enough to manage all the money she gets from being Hannah Montana.
There’s literally an episode where he finally gives her a little bit of the Hannah money and she goes nuts with it in a makeup store lol it explains that common “plot hole”
Something that was so crazy about Hannah Montana was the way how it became so big that Miley actually performed as Hannah in real life. The fast that Miley worked from 12-17 as Hannah is insane too, she was so young not touring as just herself but as Hannah as well.
Hey, dont leave out Jordan Fringe! He made the first Hannah Montana Retrospective video this year for Miley's 30th birthday and it was also about 2 hours long, which was great, specially after Keyan Charlie vowed to NEVER cover Hannah Montana cause he hated it
I loved hannah montana as a kid but rewatching as an adult I find miley so unlikable. She's so selfish most of the time despite learning a lesson in every episode. Edit: Protagonist syndrome is exactly what this is. Thanks seamus
i don’t know, i honestly found her pretty selfless and respectful when she learned a lesson. but then again i only watched season 1 and the first 2 episodes of season 2. lol-
My diabetes episode theory is that they probably filmed it because Miley was dating Nick Jonas at the time, who is a type 1 diabetic. So I'm assuming since someone so close to the main character has to deal with it on the daily, she and the team might have wanted to spread extra awareness :) I fully agree that Diabetes is such a random cause to do this for but it did make me feel seen as I am also a type 1 diabetic myself haha
Fellow T1D here! I was about to comment the same thing haha. Also, a lot of people get diagnosed as kids, and that's the main demographic for the show, so if they wanted to do an awareness episode on a chronic illness that was a good one to choose
@@LoraK31 My dad is also a type one diabetic and was only diagnosed at 25, so very much an outlier in that regard. 35 years later he’s still doing well.
Fellow T1D here, and even though I wasn’t diagnosed until after Hannah Montana ended, it was nice to have some prior (albeit minor) knowledge about it before my diagnosis.
I've never, in my entire life, watched a single episode of Hannah Montana, but am I really about to sit through a 2-hour deep dive anyway? The answer is yes Absolutely. Only because it's Seamus lmao Loving the purple hair man!
I think Robbie is probably the best representation of parenting in any disney show. He was a great dad, smart, caring, and cool too. Wish they wrote more characters like him... well I guess there was Carey from Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
the bully in this show is the Cracker, who is known for being able to crack anything, and one of the bullies in Thats so Raven is the Juicer, who is known for being able to squeeze anything into juice and threatens to squeeze Cory's head into juice. I guess there was a theme in disney channel sitfoms about naming bullies after what they are known for doing instead of having an actual name
Maybe it’s facial blindness, but I feel like the lily/Lola thing makes sense because as Lola all her wigs are never past her shoulders or a natural color. Lily has long natural hair. That combined with the drastic change in wardrobe I’d give it the benefit of the doubt.
The shows that had the main character having “a secret”, always bothered me how they were so worried about people telling their secret when in reality nobody would believe them at face value. Like would Amber & Ashley really believe Lily that Miley is Hannah Montana? They would clown her lol
That’s what happens in universe every time she tells someone she’s Hannah they don’t believe her they laugh at her. There’s an episode where she gets arrested and tries to tell the cops daughter that she’s Hannah Montana and the little girl is laughing at her and making her prove it.
I wish they would've brought back Traci, Mikayla and Roxy to see their reaction to the secret coming out. Especially Mikayla, since she wanted to be friends with Miley while hating Hannah! And Sarah and Joanie showed up at the beginning of this season but only Joanie showed up on the second to last episode!?!?! And she was still friends with her! But what was Sarah's reaction?
"John Cena beats up Jackson because he doesn't want to read." is one of the funniest sentences I've ever heard and I have never watched this show before
I'm just glad that Miley in real life finally got released from this series contract & did her own thing after this. She really worked hard to distance herself from the image of Hannah Montana, which is so ironic at many levels.
I'm convinced that the reason why they switched to a different house for the final season was the OG set would look super fake in HD. But instead of reamking it they just decided to do something entirely different.
They also needed an excuse to change things up so they could change the title of the show, and won’t have to pay the cast more (since in Disney’s contract, after 3 seasons, there’s a salary increase)
Wait is that still in place? Cause if so that explains SO MUCH about what's going on with Bunk'd, which I've been trying to understand since the show was the first to get a Season 5
I highly doubt it because HD only increases the pixel count, it has nothing to do with how the set looks. Every set looks fake, even in high budget sitcoms like Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. They changed it because they had to change things up for „Hannah Montana forever“, even though it‘s the same show.
A lot of these critiques we’ve been holding in since we were actual children watching the show. I was a child questioning the logistics of Hannah Montana having a drivers license.
I always said I didn't like Miley's character when I was younger because she always seemed to get whatever she wanted no matter how awful she acted to others, so this helped me feel validated in my (seemingly) unpopular opinion 🤣 I loved this deep dive, definitely would love to see more content like this!
Like that horrible episode where she swears to Lily that she’s not interested in Jake Ryan and tells Jake the same, only to turn around and steal him away from Lily at the dance
My best friend growing up loved Hannah Montana and we had a sleep over once. She wanted to watch it and I refused lol. I’ll watch lots of things but this show is not one of them.
Everybody in my school had a crush on Miley, but I always prefered Emily Osment because her character was way nicer and way more funny. Ah good times! I honestly still like her though, she was great in Young and Hungry and Young Sheldon. Now that I‘m rewatching this as an adult it‘s actually amazing how many times Miley lies to Lillly and Oliver. It‘s even worse than I remember.
Season 3 is miles ahead of the first two seasons in my book. I cannot stand how much more childish seasons 1 and 2 have become to me as I’ve gotten older, whereas a lot of the plot depicted in seasons 3 and 4 hold up quite well. In any case, Hannah Montana Forever (season 4) is the pinnacle of the show’s glory, followed very closely by season 3. ❤
Hannah Montana Forever is so underrated to me, I feel like cuz it doesn’t have Oliver, people assume it’s bad, but it’s my favorite. I find Miley becoming more likable and less selfish in it, I’m glad she revealed her secret for everyone else, cuz the people around her have done so much for her
Even though Jason Earl had a bit of an age gap from Jackson, he played such a hilarious teenaged older-brother and has some of my favorite moments from the show.
I think it is a sweet episode of showing a fan keeping her promise to keep something private for her favorite celebrity. Like that is showing respect and boundaries. More people should be like that in terms of how they treat celebrities.
I always found funny that the bonus track plot was basically started because of Taylor and her deluxe tracks, I mean for the girl that has 30 songs on Red TV it makes sense. And also the same girl who has found out a way to make Midnights longer and longer, adding more tracks even if mostly remixes.
Alex in wizards is a flawed main character as well but she is likeable. I wasn't able to rewatch the first season because Miley is such a toxic and unlikeable character... It's a big difference between being flawed and being literally the pro- and antagonist in your own show.
Oliver suddenly getting better at singing can happen- my sister genuinely thought I was tone deaf before I went to college and through the school’s choir I was actually able to sing well enough by winter break that my sister (who has near perfect pitch) could stand to be in the room while I’m singing.
I will say I remember just how fantastic the Cheese Jerky rap was in comparison to middle school homework. Also, wow, I liked nearly every episode of season 2!
You are correct about the original diabetes episode. It was shot as part of season 2 but certain scenes were reshot during season 3 and was slated back into the second season's library I guess? I've seen the original (which again, has some of the same scenes) and it's probably still floating around the internet somewhere. I believe the title was "No Sugar Sugar".
I just can’t believe I watched all of this lmaooo it was a pretty solid review though and I appreciated the single episode reviews instead of season reviews. True dedication shown with that and each episode title sung lol 10/10
1:37:05 “I don’t know if this matters” “It matters TO ME.” I think you just perfectly summed up how I feel about Hannah Montana’s details and plot holes
One thing that always bugged me about the Robbie being her dad and manager was Robbie Ray (the singer) was her manager. Everyone that knew Miley knew Robbie was a famous singer. There's a whole episode around that. None of them were ever like "I heard Robbie Ray is Hannah Montana's manager now so that's you?"
I hate that in the episode after she reveals herself to the world, people get mad at her for "lying" about her identity...as if the public is entitled to knowing everything about a celebrity? Everyone should have a right to privacy! Like...some lady literally accuses her of being a bad influence on her kid bc she didn't tell them her real name. It just kills me bc that mom could've just as easily spun it to be a message of "nobody is entitled to your personal information" (which was--and still is--a very important thing kids need to be taught btw) but nah sure yeah let's teach them to be mad when a celebrity wants to be treated like a normal person
I feel the reveal story from telling Jesse to reveal and after repercussions was done quite well and maturely in a way. I like how it touches on how celebs deal with hate from fans cause of things from private lives.
i'm not even ashamed to admit i still rock out to best of both worlds, the hoedown throwdown and always find your way back home in my car because i'm just that cool
i love you picking the lore apart in shows from cable tv 😂 all of it is stuff nobody originally watching it would notice because it came out one episode per week and the main audience was children. i watched hannah montana constantly as a kid, from the age of like 4 lmao (i was born in 2003 btw)
He came back and with a 2+hour video on a classic, as someone who doesn't normally buy merch for like anything, I have a Hannah Montana wig and silver Hannah Montana trousers, I also have 2 Wii games, yeah to say I was one of the fangirls would be quite accurate, I recently rewatch Ed the show and definitely see its flaws and a lot of storylines that went nowhere, but it was a fun part of my childhood
was having a shit day and saw this in my feed. thanks seamus for the 2 hr mood boost. ive literally never seen hannah montana but this was still so fun to watch.
This was a fantastic video, Seamus! I love the way you analyze things and you really knocked it out of the park with this one. It definitely took you a lot of work, so you should absolutely be proud!! ❤
Lemme tell ya in latinoamérica Hannah Montana was huge back then, but after that, arrived the 2013 disney channel musical telenovela “Violetta” and that was a revolution, I remember saying “is like the second coming of Hannah Montana and high school musical mixed but EN ESPAÑOL!!!” 😂 but it wasn’t even a sitcom, it was a telenovela (linear story, drama, and fun but a lot of drama and love triangles) but with a great musical production and talented cast since the main character goes to a music school so everyone sings and dances, and the actors were from different countries, it was set in Argentina 🇦🇷 but we had 1 Spanish 🇪🇸 love interest, 1 Mexican 🇲🇽 love interest, and Italian best friend, a Brazilian dude🇧🇷 and of you check it out please see it on the original language because the accents of the different nationalities of the cast adds some extra flavor in my opinion. (The downside was that as a telenovela is loooooong and plot progression and misunderstandings and such overstay their welcome, season 1 is like 80 episodes alone, but you could check the best moments ore episodes cuz at least the music still holds up, although the Voy por ti music video is cringe in a 2012 way and I love it, it’s so funny
i love seeing different hour+ retrospectives! gives different perspectives. jordan fringe posted a hannah montana video 2 months ago~ im so excited!!! see ya in 2 hrs🫡
i was just looking for another video essay to watch, this was literally perfect timing! as someone who has never properly watched hannah montana, i can't wait to watch this :D
No I agree with you. I grew up watching this show, so I do have some nostalgia for it. But yah Miley is an awful character, yet the show really wants us to believe she is a good person. I recently rewatched wizard of waverly place, and Alex can be a lot like Miley; selfish, rude, ect. But the show actively tells you Alex is not a good person. It’s a key part of the show. We are supposed to believe Miley is a good person at heart who makes a few wrong decisions, but in reality she’s selfish at heart and forced to learn life lessons.
I always appreciated that part of Wizards is that Alex was very selfish sometimes but she could also be kind. It was nice to see some diversity in a main character. So many early 2000s kids sitcoms either had boring characters or just terrible characters that we’re supposed to root for. If you make characters you have to understand how their actions effect other characters. Alex was a flawed person but that’s why I kind of liked her. Also the fact her parents weren’t bumbling idiots really helped.
The diabetes storyline most likely comes from Miley dating Nick Jonas, who has diabetes, they wanted to address that someone with Diabetes is still a person and he or she doesn’t change because of an illness like this. Alsoo; Miley herself has ‘Hypoglycaemia’ which is a Blood Sugar illnes. (Lesser known, you can find info online)
oh my god I watched every single episode of this show last year I never thought anyone else would catalogue all the weird shit that happens thank you so much seamus
I think the whole thing with Robbie being Miley's dad and manager getting confused was likely because Billy Rae Cyrus is Miley Cyrus' IRL father, so that might have played a role in it. Maybe they wanted to give a nod to the idea of her following in her father's footsteps IRL. Still inconsistent writing, but it might have played a part.
seamus i have never been more convinced that you and i are one and the same, you’re out here making the videos i wish i was making because this is literally the content that i crave, keep it coming please!
I have never watched Hannah Montana but I love the actor who plays Jackson because he was my favorite character on the Disney show kicking it I love this so much 😂
Okay I haven’t started watching yet but I just needed to say that like a month ago I started rewatching Hannah Montana and I have SO many thoughts about it and I’ve been wishing this whole time that someone would make a deep dive video on it and here you are and I can’t wait to hear if you say everything I’m thinking
It's important to point out that this video is in fact 23 minutes longer than Hannah Montana: The Movie
AHAHAHAHAHA this is the new canonical hannah montana movie
Eh hello pal 😊👋
@@SeamusGorman4 YOU are in the connected universe
THE RIPPLES
@@SeamusGorman4good video I can't wait for the Disney channel multiverse part 3 video.
Lol
the plot hole of robbie being hannah's dad AND manager while being miley's dad as well bothered me sm !!! the makeup department didn't even try for robbie's disguise it's so funny 😭
It wasn't even the disguise, it was the inconsistency 😭
i always just thought it would be easier to say miley is hannah’s boring normal sister. that way it’s not weird that she’s billy’s daughter too
the most unrealistic thing about Hannah Montana is that she being the biggest pop star in the world, doesn't have a horde of stalker obsessive fans dedicated to find out her real identity who would've probably put two and two together by the middle of first season
Yeah but it’s not meant to be ‘realistic’😂
@@gracekim1998 I totally agree, if it was, realistic it would be a drama not a comedy. There are already a lot, of dramas out there, that have a similar title.
well.... the internet culture wasnt such a huge thing back then
@@azlxns but the tabloids were, there's no reason hannah would be treated differently than Britney or Lindsay Lohan
no one would believe them though
The thing about this show is that no one assumes Hannah Montana is a secret identity. Which makes the fact no one figures it out much more believable.
Yeah but also, where do people think she lives? Cus with like pretty much all A-list celebrities irl, you could find out where they live really easily.
@@zupergurkanidk we don’t know where ice spice lives and I assume Hannah Montana is as big
Just remember this was in the noughties, the internet wasn’t as big as now 😅
@@rediamond7818okay but ice spice who? in the hannah montana universe shes like beyonce or britney spears level of famous (or thats how they make it seem lmao) and most ppl irl dont even know who ice spice is so thats not a good comparison 😭
@@littleprettyfairy I mean does anyone know where Beyonce or Britney spears live? Beyonce is famously private
The commitment to actually sing all the titles lol I HAD A BLAST THANK YOU GUYS!!!!!!!
Same! I would watch a whole video with just the parody Episode Title singing!
“Green girl” here. I just realized I don’t know if it’s common knowledge that these episodes were largely filmed out of order in each season, which in retrospect makes some character arcs seem insanely inconsistent lol. Thanks for entertaining me during my day job!
honestly i suspected as much and should have probably said so !! i can’t thank you enough for taking the time to watch the video :))
I loved that character. It kept me watching the series for a little longer.
Omg!! ‘Tis you!!
Ik for Kim Possible, they aired the episodes out of chronological order so it makes no sense if you watch in airing order (which is what I did through reruns back in 2005-6). Safe to say, I'm not shocked that Hannah Montana probably had the same problem
With Hannah Montana the Movie, I was always confused about why Lilly forgave Miley so quickly, but now hearing each episode breakdown, I guess they went for continuity
The way Lily says that line about how she’s never going to be able to make it up to her. I really thought we were about to dive into Hannah/Miley treats Lily only for her to forgive her two seconds later. It sucks that she decided that her double life was becoming too much because she couldn’t properly date a boy she just met. But she didn’t realize that when it was constantly fucking her best friend over.
I'm not happy that there's been about 2500 views and I can't find a single comment admiring the vocal delight of Seamus singing each song title out to different covers. It's honestly more iconic and entertaining just waiting for which cover is next compared to the review of the episode
I expected nothing less, given the icon status of every theme tune he created for all those Disney sequels during the Disney sequel show.
I didn’t even realize all the titles were parodies of song lyrics until Seamus started singing 😂
@@bibliotheca27 same!
He’s actually probably pretty good and just played up the silliness. You could tell a lot of them actually sounded really nice.
the fact the you never once mentioned their neighbor, and nemesis, mr. dontzig is truly an act of cruelty beyond words. he was a STAPLE on the show, seamus.
Seamus this was an absolute masterpiece. Was definitely worth the wait
Wasn’t expecting you to reply on this video 🤣
wow you watch Seamus too!
Except for Season 4/Forever, that was absolute bullcrap! I hated it!
With the whole confusion on miley not having any money, yet somehow being rich. I rationalize this all to being robby ray taking care of all her finances and deciding what/when she can spend. If shes hannah montana, theres more leeway to keep up with appearances. On the credit card episode, robby ray before probably thought she wasnt responsible enough to spend her own money, and then she wasnt.
There is a whole real life ethical issue with child stars being taken advantage of their parents to take care of all the finances, but in this show I don't think it's the case because she does get some allowance for things she wants like clothes, she was the one who wanted the double life and being normal half the time, and she's very young and not old enough to manage all the money she gets from being Hannah Montana.
There’s literally an episode where he finally gives her a little bit of the Hannah money and she goes nuts with it in a makeup store lol it explains that common “plot hole”
Something that was so crazy about Hannah Montana was the way how it became so big that Miley actually performed as Hannah in real life. The fast that Miley worked from 12-17 as Hannah is insane too, she was so young not touring as just herself but as Hannah as well.
She only toured as Hannah once but you’re completely right. They worked her to the bone, no wonder she had an identity crisis.
Seamus Gorman entering his Quinton reviews/ Keyan Charlie era with hour long reviews of 2000’ kids sitcoms and I’m here for it.
Didn't know about Keyan Charlie! I'll have to check it out
@@sburkie9 keyan is so underrated!! his lab rats trilogy is amazing content
Hey, dont leave out Jordan Fringe! He made the first Hannah Montana Retrospective video this year for Miley's 30th birthday and it was also about 2 hours long, which was great, specially after Keyan Charlie vowed to NEVER cover Hannah Montana cause he hated it
@@alejandrocervantes3624 holy cow she’s 30😮
I know Quinton reviews but no idea who Keyan Charlie is. Guess we will find out!
I loved hannah montana as a kid but rewatching as an adult I find miley so unlikable. She's so selfish most of the time despite learning a lesson in every episode.
Edit: Protagonist syndrome is exactly what this is. Thanks seamus
I feel like she was pretty selfless actually a lot of times. Like she gave up opportunities for friends all the time
@@tmm4195 Agreed. I feel like people say this about protagonists a lot but ignore the multiple times they were selfless.
i don’t know, i honestly found her pretty selfless and respectful when she learned a lesson. but then again i only watched season 1 and the first 2 episodes of season 2. lol-
My diabetes episode theory is that they probably filmed it because Miley was dating Nick Jonas at the time, who is a type 1 diabetic. So I'm assuming since someone so close to the main character has to deal with it on the daily, she and the team might have wanted to spread extra awareness :) I fully agree that Diabetes is such a random cause to do this for but it did make me feel seen as I am also a type 1 diabetic myself haha
That is very true
Fellow T1D here! I was about to comment the same thing haha. Also, a lot of people get diagnosed as kids, and that's the main demographic for the show, so if they wanted to do an awareness episode on a chronic illness that was a good one to choose
@@LoraK31
My dad is also a type one diabetic and was only diagnosed at 25, so very much an outlier in that regard. 35 years later he’s still doing well.
@@CaraTheStrange I got it at 22! I'm glad I'm not alone lol
Fellow T1D here, and even though I wasn’t diagnosed until after Hannah Montana ended, it was nice to have some prior (albeit minor) knowledge about it before my diagnosis.
I've never, in my entire life, watched a single episode of Hannah Montana, but am I really about to sit through a 2-hour deep dive anyway? The answer is yes Absolutely. Only because it's Seamus lmao
Loving the purple hair man!
I was not expecting 2 hours of Seamus, but I’m here for it!
43:55 Paramore actually had to cancel a show once when Hayley was 16 because she got grounded
I think Robbie is probably the best representation of parenting in any disney show. He was a great dad, smart, caring, and cool too. Wish they wrote more characters like him... well I guess there was Carey from Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
the bully in this show is the Cracker, who is known for being able to crack anything, and one of the bullies in Thats so Raven is the Juicer, who is known for being able to squeeze anything into juice and threatens to squeeze Cory's head into juice. I guess there was a theme in disney channel sitfoms about naming bullies after what they are known for doing instead of having an actual name
Yeah it’s definitely weird 😅
Shes white too
@yotyr0ne232 how does that matter?
@@bluewolf2708 double standards are not cool
@@YoTyr0ne I’m not sure how that’s relevant but the fact that they don’t have REAL names is ….distracting 😅
I don’t think I’ve ever noticed that all the episode titles were parodies of song titles until you sang them so thanks for that :D
My theory is that Oliver liked Lily from the beginning, and he pretended to suck to make her feel better about herself
Maybe it’s facial blindness, but I feel like the lily/Lola thing makes sense because as Lola all her wigs are never past her shoulders or a natural color. Lily has long natural hair. That combined with the drastic change in wardrobe I’d give it the benefit of the doubt.
the “bad boy” boyfriend of Hannah also played the “bad boy” boyfriend of Carly on iCarly
The shows that had the main character having “a secret”, always bothered me how they were so worried about people telling their secret when in reality nobody would believe them at face value.
Like would Amber & Ashley really believe Lily that Miley is Hannah Montana? They would clown her lol
That’s what happens in universe every time she tells someone she’s Hannah they don’t believe her they laugh at her. There’s an episode where she gets arrested and tries to tell the cops daughter that she’s Hannah Montana and the little girl is laughing at her and making her prove it.
@ correct that was honestly one of the best episodes of the series. Having a Disney Channel character get arrested or pulled over rarely happens.
Props to Seamus for singing every single episode title, that was brilliant 😆
I watched Hannah Montana a bunch as a kid and even I always thought Roxy was a super integral character in the show
Right? I know she was my favourite character at least. She and Lilly.
I wish they would've brought back Traci, Mikayla and Roxy to see their reaction to the secret coming out. Especially Mikayla, since she wanted to be friends with Miley while hating Hannah!
And Sarah and Joanie showed up at the beginning of this season but only Joanie showed up on the second to last episode!?!?! And she was still friends with her! But what was Sarah's reaction?
The extra inclusion of actually singing all the episode titles was just *chefs kiss*
"John Cena beats up Jackson because he doesn't want to read." is one of the funniest sentences I've ever heard and I have never watched this show before
Finally a 2 hour video from Seamus I needed this
I'm just glad that Miley in real life finally got released from this series contract & did her own thing after this. She really worked hard to distance herself from the image of Hannah Montana, which is so ironic at many levels.
I'm convinced that the reason why they switched to a different house for the final season was the OG set would look super fake in HD. But instead of reamking it they just decided to do something entirely different.
They also needed an excuse to change things up so they could change the title of the show, and won’t have to pay the cast more (since in Disney’s contract, after 3 seasons, there’s a salary increase)
Wait is that still in place? Cause if so that explains SO MUCH about what's going on with Bunk'd, which I've been trying to understand since the show was the first to get a Season 5
I highly doubt it because HD only increases the pixel count, it has nothing to do with how the set looks. Every set looks fake, even in high budget sitcoms like Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. They changed it because they had to change things up for „Hannah Montana forever“, even though it‘s the same show.
A 2 hour Seamus deep dive was exactly what I needed today. Day made.
seamus singing the titles is even more iconic than the disney sequel songs
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Sometimes we kinda forget that when we’re criticising these Disney shows that it’s actually made for children in the 2000’s and 2010’s
Yes but i don’t mind 🤷♀️ I was one of those children 😂
Yep, even though I can see character flaws and stuff, I still love the show for what it was.
They really thought our humor was that simple
A lot of these critiques we’ve been holding in since we were actual children watching the show. I was a child questioning the logistics of Hannah Montana having a drivers license.
cant wait to watch when you get to the jessie/jake arc
i wasn't ready...
i love how he actually sang all the titles
no because how was i OBSESSED with hannah montana and i’ve only just realised that the episode titles are songs?💀
I always said I didn't like Miley's character when I was younger because she always seemed to get whatever she wanted no matter how awful she acted to others, so this helped me feel validated in my (seemingly) unpopular opinion 🤣 I loved this deep dive, definitely would love to see more content like this!
Like that horrible episode where she swears to Lily that she’s not interested in Jake Ryan and tells Jake the same, only to turn around and steal him away from Lily at the dance
I’m glad I’m not the only one who found Miley unlikable. I completely forgot the storylines in the show so I never could prove it, glad I have it now
My best friend growing up loved Hannah Montana and we had a sleep over once. She wanted to watch it and I refused lol. I’ll watch lots of things but this show is not one of them.
Everybody in my school had a crush on Miley, but I always prefered Emily Osment because her character was way nicer and way more funny. Ah good times! I honestly still like her though, she was great in Young and Hungry and Young Sheldon. Now that I‘m rewatching this as an adult it‘s actually amazing how many times Miley lies to Lillly and Oliver. It‘s even worse than I remember.
After a whole month of silence you come back with a 2 HOUR VIDEO???? Amazing, truly amazing
I wish they had an episode where a crazy fan found out her secret and tried to blackmail her
They did kinda Rico thought he knew her secret but he didn’t it was just about her teddy bear
Season 3 is miles ahead of the first two seasons in my book. I cannot stand how much more childish seasons 1 and 2 have become to me as I’ve gotten older, whereas a lot of the plot depicted in seasons 3 and 4 hold up quite well. In any case, Hannah Montana Forever (season 4) is the pinnacle of the show’s glory, followed very closely by season 3. ❤
...and HM The Movie is good, but could’ve been great if the secret wasn’t actually revealed to the whole damn town at the end.😅
I actually like the first two seasons (especially S2). Mostly bc i find S3 to have Miley being RLLY unlikable and is mean spirited towards Jackson
Agreed 100%. Season 3 & 4 are the best
I really miss the show
Hannah Montana Forever is so underrated to me, I feel like cuz it doesn’t have Oliver, people assume it’s bad, but it’s my favorite. I find Miley becoming more likable and less selfish in it, I’m glad she revealed her secret for everyone else, cuz the people around her have done so much for her
Newsflash it’s a children’s show what do you expect?
Even though Jason Earl had a bit of an age gap from Jackson, he played such a hilarious teenaged older-brother and has some of my favorite moments from the show.
I think it is a sweet episode of showing a fan keeping her promise to keep something private for her favorite celebrity. Like that is showing respect and boundaries. More people should be like that in terms of how they treat celebrities.
I always found funny that the bonus track plot was basically started because of Taylor and her deluxe tracks, I mean for the girl that has 30 songs on Red TV it makes sense.
And also the same girl who has found out a way to make Midnights longer and longer, adding more tracks even if mostly remixes.
Alex in wizards is a flawed main character as well but she is likeable. I wasn't able to rewatch the first season because Miley is such a toxic and unlikeable character... It's a big difference between being flawed and being literally the pro- and antagonist in your own show.
Oliver suddenly getting better at singing can happen- my sister genuinely thought I was tone deaf before I went to college and through the school’s choir I was actually able to sing well enough by winter break that my sister (who has near perfect pitch) could stand to be in the room while I’m singing.
I was tone deaf in middle school and got better and joined my church choir.
Miley was 14 in season 1, but Jason earles was 29, and only 16 years younger than Billy Ray Cyrus
They say he’s 20 in season 4, but he’s actually 33
Miley was actually 12-13 in season 1, 13-14 in season 2, 15 in the movie, 15-16 in season 3, and 17 in season 4
@@growingupwithdisney yeah Miley (the character) is just born in later months
@@UriosEditz I didn’t realize he was talking about the character, I remember watching the pilot and being surprised Hannah was 14
I will say I remember just how fantastic the Cheese Jerky rap was in comparison to middle school homework.
Also, wow, I liked nearly every episode of season 2!
My favorite part of this video was the commitment to singing every single episode title song reference. Thank you for that :)
You are correct about the original diabetes episode. It was shot as part of season 2 but certain scenes were reshot during season 3 and was slated back into the second season's library I guess? I've seen the original (which again, has some of the same scenes) and it's probably still floating around the internet somewhere. I believe the title was "No Sugar Sugar".
youre right, i didnt ask for this, but now I feel like I needed it
i hope you enjoy!!
I just can’t believe I watched all of this lmaooo it was a pretty solid review though and I appreciated the single episode reviews instead of season reviews. True dedication shown with that and each episode title sung lol 10/10
The singing of every episode title is truly Grammy nomination worthy
1:37:05 “I don’t know if this matters” “It matters TO ME.” I think you just perfectly summed up how I feel about Hannah Montana’s details and plot holes
One thing that always bugged me about the Robbie being her dad and manager was Robbie Ray (the singer) was her manager. Everyone that knew Miley knew Robbie was a famous singer. There's a whole episode around that. None of them were ever like "I heard Robbie Ray is Hannah Montana's manager now so that's you?"
This was everything I needed in life and now I need a two hour deep dive into wizards of wavelet place!!!
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You’re welcome lol
I literally looked you up a few days ago cause i was curious where you went. I got my answer now.
sorry i was alive this whole time i swear
Singing the episode titles was so hilarious, I completely lost it when you got to “and I will always loathe you” 🤣🤣🤣
I hate that in the episode after she reveals herself to the world, people get mad at her for "lying" about her identity...as if the public is entitled to knowing everything about a celebrity? Everyone should have a right to privacy! Like...some lady literally accuses her of being a bad influence on her kid bc she didn't tell them her real name. It just kills me bc that mom could've just as easily spun it to be a message of "nobody is entitled to your personal information" (which was--and still is--a very important thing kids need to be taught btw) but nah sure yeah let's teach them to be mad when a celebrity wants to be treated like a normal person
i respect you committing to covering every song referenced in the titles
I feel the reveal story from telling Jesse to reveal and after repercussions was done quite well and maturely in a way.
I like how it touches on how celebs deal with hate from fans cause of things from private lives.
2 hours! Thank you, I'm gonna watch it all
Petition to have him do the same thing he did in this video but with the Jessie show and it’s spin off bunk’ed
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You singing the episode titles makes my day
i'm not even ashamed to admit i still rock out to best of both worlds, the hoedown throwdown and always find your way back home in my car because i'm just that cool
Thank you so much for all the effort with this video. I absolutely loved the episode title intros with songs.
i love you picking the lore apart in shows from cable tv 😂 all of it is stuff nobody originally watching it would notice because it came out one episode per week and the main audience was children. i watched hannah montana constantly as a kid, from the age of like 4 lmao (i was born in 2003 btw)
How did I never realise the episodes were named after song titles
He came back and with a 2+hour video on a classic, as someone who doesn't normally buy merch for like anything, I have a Hannah Montana wig and silver Hannah Montana trousers, I also have 2 Wii games, yeah to say I was one of the fangirls would be quite accurate, I recently rewatch Ed the show and definitely see its flaws and a lot of storylines that went nowhere, but it was a fun part of my childhood
As someone who's never ever aeen Hannah Montana... This was a great video, and now I have a complete summary!
Thanks Seamus. 😉
Someone who’s never… aeen…the show? What?
Seamus entering the multihour videos about old random kids shows is amazing. Enjoyed this whole thing. ❤
My logical brain hates this, as my first a-level exam is in 2 days, but my content brain *loves* a two hour Seamus video
same, got gcse's in 2 days and watching seamus instead of revising ☠
@@ejhxwlett I'm doing both at once, it's... half productive
@@daisygunning7366 haha i wish but i can only concentrate on one thing 😭 gl with ur exams!!
@@ejhxwlett Thanks, you too! Yeah, I struggle with concentrating on more than one thing, but I can semi-function
Yayy you're back!
With an amazing video no doubt!
The reason she doesn't have money is probably because it's in a trust for her until she turns 18 😂
obsessed with the fact that seamus is just becoming a disney channel youtuber now
was having a shit day and saw this in my feed. thanks seamus for the 2 hr mood boost. ive literally never seen hannah montana but this was still so fun to watch.
I did not realize until rn that the episode titles are parody’s of songs lol thank you for your renditions they made me giggle
never knew I needed a 2 hour analysis for Hannah Montana until today.
This was a fantastic video, Seamus! I love the way you analyze things and you really knocked it out of the park with this one. It definitely took you a lot of work, so you should absolutely be proud!! ❤
super excited to watch this video since hannah montana was my favorite show when i was little! I remember crying when it ended.
44:37 you could honestly insert that clip after pretty much everything that happens in the show
I hav seen maybe two episodes of Hannah Montana
But I’ve been waiting on a Seamus video for a month and I’m going to watch this whole thing
Lemme tell ya in latinoamérica Hannah Montana was huge back then, but after that, arrived the 2013 disney channel musical telenovela “Violetta” and that was a revolution, I remember saying “is like the second coming of Hannah Montana and high school musical mixed but EN ESPAÑOL!!!” 😂 but it wasn’t even a sitcom, it was a telenovela (linear story, drama, and fun but a lot of drama and love triangles) but with a great musical production and talented cast since the main character goes to a music school so everyone sings and dances, and the actors were from different countries, it was set in Argentina 🇦🇷 but we had 1 Spanish 🇪🇸 love interest, 1 Mexican 🇲🇽 love interest, and Italian best friend, a Brazilian dude🇧🇷 and of you check it out please see it on the original language because the accents of the different nationalities of the cast adds some extra flavor in my opinion. (The downside was that as a telenovela is loooooong and plot progression and misunderstandings and such overstay their welcome, season 1 is like 80 episodes alone, but you could check the best moments ore episodes cuz at least the music still holds up, although the Voy por ti music video is cringe in a 2012 way and I love it, it’s so funny
i love seeing different hour+ retrospectives! gives different perspectives. jordan fringe posted a hannah montana video 2 months ago~ im so excited!!! see ya in 2 hrs🫡
HES BACK 🎉🎉
thank you for your patience!!!
@@SeamusGorman4it was worth it for this masterpiece
2 hour retrospective on a show I haven’t watched in fifteen years and remember zero details from this shit’s gonna go crazy
i was just looking for another video essay to watch, this was literally perfect timing! as someone who has never properly watched hannah montana, i can't wait to watch this :D
No I agree with you. I grew up watching this show, so I do have some nostalgia for it. But yah Miley is an awful character, yet the show really wants us to believe she is a good person. I recently rewatched wizard of waverly place, and Alex can be a lot like Miley; selfish, rude, ect. But the show actively tells you Alex is not a good person. It’s a key part of the show. We are supposed to believe Miley is a good person at heart who makes a few wrong decisions, but in reality she’s selfish at heart and forced to learn life lessons.
I always appreciated that part of Wizards is that Alex was very selfish sometimes but she could also be kind. It was nice to see some diversity in a main character. So many early 2000s kids sitcoms either had boring characters or just terrible characters that we’re supposed to root for. If you make characters you have to understand how their actions effect other characters.
Alex was a flawed person but that’s why I kind of liked her. Also the fact her parents weren’t bumbling idiots really helped.
😍LOVE the singing transitions!!!
The diabetes storyline most likely comes from Miley dating Nick Jonas, who has diabetes, they wanted to address that someone with Diabetes is still a person and he or she doesn’t change because of an illness like this.
Alsoo; Miley herself has ‘Hypoglycaemia’ which is a Blood Sugar illnes. (Lesser known, you can find info online)
oh my god I watched every single episode of this show last year I never thought anyone else would catalogue all the weird shit that happens thank you so much seamus
Honey, wake up. A Seamus feature film has dropped..!
Love how the purple jacket matches with the purple hair!
I think the whole thing with Robbie being Miley's dad and manager getting confused was likely because Billy Rae Cyrus is Miley Cyrus' IRL father, so that might have played a role in it. Maybe they wanted to give a nod to the idea of her following in her father's footsteps IRL.
Still inconsistent writing, but it might have played a part.
seamus i have never been more convinced that you and i are one and the same, you’re out here making the videos i wish i was making because this is literally the content that i crave, keep it coming please!
I have never watched Hannah Montana but I love the actor who plays Jackson because he was my favorite character on the Disney show kicking it I love this so much 😂
Okay I haven’t started watching yet but I just needed to say that like a month ago I started rewatching Hannah Montana and I have SO many thoughts about it and I’ve been wishing this whole time that someone would make a deep dive video on it and here you are and I can’t wait to hear if you say everything I’m thinking
I never realised just how often the plot is that Miley is embarrassed of her best friend just being herself. So sick and twisted!