GNU | Ramaphosa pens scathing letter to Steenhuisen
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- ANC President Cyril Ramaphosa has penned a scathing letter to DA Leader John Steenhuisen accusing him of shifting goalposts in negotiations over cabinet positions. In letter seen by the SABC, Ramaphosa says he informed Steenhusinen that they found the letter from DA Federal Chairperson Helen Zille offensive, condescending, and inconsistent with the Constitution.
The DA was demanding 11 ministers and deputy and wanting to fire Director Generals in those portfolios. Ramaphosa in the letter further says the DA has been disruptive and uncooperative in the negotiations unlike other parties.
Ramaphosa says he believe the DA has jeopardized the foundation of setting up a Government of National Unity by moving the goalposts in a letter of 24 June 2024 written by John Steenhusen to him. The ANC President says he is truly taken aback by how the DA now want two more portfolios to bring their portfolios to 8.
The President further says the latest proposals by the DA do not, align with the principles adopted and encapsulated in the Statement of Intent. Ramaphosa further alludes that DA proposals that have been submitted undermines the process they had committed to the following - open, grounded, consistent, constitutionally compliant, engagements, honouring the collective understanding of our goal to create a government that reflects the will of the people.
President Ramaphosa says he intends to conclude all negotiations and consultations this week.
Let's take this further now we are joined by our Politics Reporter Samkele Maseko.
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I think these negotiations must be televised so that we can know and understand who wants what and for what reason. After all, it is the people who voted that must benefit from the appointments.
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They have secrets that they're hiding. That's why it will never be public.
Along with ANC NEC meetings! I honestly don't understand how they think its OK to make decisions that affect 60 million people in secret meetings!
The DA just wants it split based on the number of votes. Else what are they even doing there.
1000% agree
ANC must share powers, they can’t just expect all parties to join them in the GNU to sit back just agree with all they say. They need to share, that is what people voted for, not for the ANC to govern alone mos…..💁🏾♀️
Numbers are not the same why Sharing
Why not revote
I wonder how bringing in more parties can be translated into not wanting to share power... The rand is a foreign currency in south Africa, we need new markets and a new currency.
Is it not the DA that has made demands? Should the ANC just accept every demand the DA makes?
If you get 40% you cannot have business as usual.
Same...If you got 20 % you are NOT in charge !!!
What are you trying to say ???
@@truth-Hurts375 The ANC once had full reign, now they don’t. The organisation is structured on monopoly. They in a marriage of sort now and need to give up some stuff and that’s not easy for them because they actually want it all. There will be lots of resistance.
ANC has failed the Country with the Trade Department under their portfolio for 34 years. It is only right that DA ask to take over that Ministry to have better control of a very important sector of the economy.
@@truth-Hurts37540% also does not mean you can dictate terms of a Coalition Government. With 20 % you can also negotiate from a strong position. DA is right is asking for Ministries where they have have hands the ongoing affairs and stop the looting that has been the case for 34 years. Why can’t ANC compromise and accept in the interest of the Country and people
DA didn't understand that you could not rush to go to bed with ANC without prayer and wish to see them repent for what you have been criticized. ANC will dump the DA on the highway 🛣 R300.
So the ANC should just bend to the DA's demands?
Da has a bad mentality of superiority.
Ramaphosa and his ANC chose to govern with DA , Ramaphosa went on to make DA its number 1 party of choice . Today Ramaphosa is whinging l say finish what you started south africa want to see results not complaints
You are wrong. Other parties were invited, they chose to join or not join. So, don't lie.
Anc member hai
😂😂😂😂You are deluded, they went to all parties.
@@studylive99Both made a choice
😂 The ANC tought that the DA will prop up the ANC with minimal portfolios. The ANC is more foolish than we thought.
I thought ANC /DA have a common goal, SA Citizens. But clearly not. Their main drive is fueled by Power
Sure. The ANC does not want the other parties to focus on positions ... because that is what the ANC does best.
You right we the people voted for nothing they could have had their own meetings and leave us alone because we expected them to care about the South Africans but no they rather fight amongs themselves for positions it can go on for months everyone wants to be top but its the same suffer the people of South Africa the world must be laughing at us We still want a mix Parliament so they all can look out for all South Africans let it happen
@@thomasprogli3372 The problem in this instance is not the ANC, it is Helen Zille, DA
@MapEve4 can u do maths? Anc 40% 20 seats.. da 20% 10 seats.. it's seems the anc wants to hold onto more when the number don't support them
@@thomasprogli3372they don't want other parties in positions which will make it hard for them to steal and crook the country again
The ANC can't just have what they want. We all know what happened with when the ANC was in charge of the trade and industry. Its not just business as usual, there must be changes.
I don't believe a word Mr Ramaposa said.
ANC wants business as usual with 40%
The DA wants control with 21%.
What about DA WITH 20 %
@@isaacchipatala1618 20 and 40 so. 1/3 and 2/3 so that means if 30 ministers 10 should be DA
and the DA who won 20% of the vote are behaving as though they won the elections
@@howdiynot GNU includes more than just the ANC & DA but of course, DA wants much much more
Zille has to be ready to walk, she can not fold
Happy days, she needs to leave.
I DONT LIKE DA but sir cyril u are on the wrong u didnt win the peoples votes and this is not th ANC people know its sad to see the nxt 5 yrs
The DA knows that if ANC cadres are still in the ministries that they run, they will not be able to improve service delivery. Therefore they want the option to select their own staff based on merit so that they are able to deliver. If you keep the ANC in the ranks. Nothing will change that is what the ANC wants.
😂 I guess u haven't considerd the illegal actions they want to be made legal 😂😂😂 ya white people hot wind
Then DA should leave the GNU, EFF will gladly replace.
Because in your head you think white people govern better than black people, and that black people always need oversight from white people.
But to demand 11 portfolios, as if the DA gained majority? That's irrational and if you can't see that no one can help you.
I support Da, the anc had no worked instead the poor keep getting poorer and service delivery goes to their pockets and too much crime
He's clearly very concerned about those all important feeding troughs.
I feel there is a missing link here. No one got a mandate. I feel there was need of an umpire to adjudicate the negotiations than allow compititors to quarrel endlessly. Labelling each other wont help the situation
ANC still wants more portfolios for what. They have been controlling these portfolios for years but nothing was achieved. For ANC to give away 10 cabinets to other parties and keep 20 cabinets. That's laughable
It is not about how many positions ANC can offer but rather the strategic positions DA demands. Even though ANC has no Majority , they still hold more seat ad can't be equal to the DA based on power sharing. President has full authority by the constitution to hire his executive but he must do so in consultation with the parties in GNU.
DA only has 20% votes, there are other parties in the GNU. So DA shouldn't also act as if they have majority votes.
@@studylive99its simple. Each party get cabinet position based on their percentage. DA is right to want fairness
Anyone notice how the DA is being attacked every 5 min ..the guests they bring on ..all anti DA ...Something stinks .
The DA has been attacked, even before the elections. The mind boggles!!
Sabc has long been the ANC's propaganda wing.
Exactly what I'm thinking
When it other parties you are quiet when it DA You defend the hypocrisy! DA and ANC should not have teamed up
I voted for the DA but one can tell that it's acting like a big mosquito in the GNU. it's simply clear that the DA is using white arrogance.
ANC: "The coalition partners should not focus on positions"
... meanwhile the ANC is only focusion on positions.
Fact is the ANC already has the most important positions: The presedency and vice presedency.
The ANC has failed the black poor for 30 years.
It's DA that's purely focused on positions.
Deputy speaker with 20 and mostly coming the western cape is money for jam.
He must tell us what he agreed with the DA in their bilateral and stop fooling us
You can ask your DA for those answers.
@@Dude-m4z I'm a DA but the truth must be told. Ramaphosa negotiated with DA alone and signed an agreement. Then other parties we invited. Even Holomisa had confirmed that they have not seen that agreement . But they are in GNU for the county to go forward and for that they must also be compensated. Ukuthi awuboni ukuthi uRamaphosa usebkingeni nge deal yakhe ne DA
@@user-jo7om6ks2l That's why it is called negotiations, it's not final. The possible outcomes can only be two: Yes or No. DA must accept or decline the final offer, the country will continue just fine with or without them. ANC is not desperate in this equation, DA leverage is very weak. The agreement signed outside GNU is not constitutional and won't hold in court.
True
@@user-jo7om6ks2lLies, PA President Gayton McKenzie said that the political parties who joined the GNU signed contracts in agreement to the terms and conditions of their coalition, negotiations are still taking place. Stop spreading unnecessary propaganda.
The biggest problem here is that ANC chose the GNU route instead of coalition or minority government because both Ramaphosa and his ANC NEC members don't want to make a clear choice and deal with the consequences of that choise, so they went half-way so that other parties take responsibility for their mismanagement of the country and all other parties take co-responsibility for the looting, corruption, organised crime , destruction of infrastructure etc. This is a Ramaphosa/ANC leadership problem ! Chose either EFF/Mk or DA coalition! You can't have both ways !!!
I really hate are politicians what was the point of voting any way. We are suffering but we voted I will never bother my self with voting
This marriage is not going to last. 🙈
Very funny tjoo ❤❤❤
Facts
And it hasn't even been 6 months yet 😳
Let me correct you buddy from the start,at this moment he is the presdent off south africa and if it was not for the DA he would have out tonight, so start your storie over buddy
All parties must now realize that NOBODY reached the majority. They should work together for the benefit of the residents of RSA. All ministers that was charged with corruption and/or crime, should not be allowed back. Parties agreed to clean RSA from all things not fair and criminal, to benefit all. Therefore, one party cannot dictate appointments of criminals and others trying to do the right thing. This will end badly, as the people of RSA spoke with votes, showing their unhappiness with the previous ruling party, and the way the country was run down. Politicians need to urgently realise that they are only "workers of the people" as per votes of the people of RSA.
And the circus is back in town 🙌
This was leaked correspondence. We don't know how real it is firstly. Secondly all of this floating around on TV and social media is harming us, the public... Again. We are nervous as it is. How about the President, for the first time ever, do what is expected and stop keeping us waiting.
Let DA go with peace
Understand, if they walk, so does the ANC. Without the DA, the ANC does not have the presidency. That is the FACT
if DA leaves and EFF comes in, we will be paying R50 for a loaf of bread
Make it make sense
You think like backwards boer!
Stop with these scare tactics that white people keep feeding you
Economy will collapse due to radical polices such as land expropriation without compensation (housing market will vacuum, leading to a nation wide economic domino effect.
Essentially, the entire private industry will massively lose faith in stability because theyd be afraid to even buy a shop without a risk of it being stolen from them @@ntando1692
U crazy
😂😂 they are just stage acting to fool us into thinking Ramaphosa has a choice, he doesn't, he must abide by the instructions of his masters, the DA's handlers. Zille has him by the balls
These people are acting, they will work together, but they can't easily agree, it will be suspicious,because there are rumors that this thing was planned long time ago
ANC partner DA helped voting Ramaposa in as new President with a overwhelming majority, now what? been used and now is going to be abused 😂
Just like every single voter who has supported them for the past 30 years. They don't care about us - they care about money and power - Pixley ka Seme must be rolling in his grave :(
ANC is strategic 😂😂😂 they win the government DA played foolish 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The DA had to choose a lesser evil the floor was open for nominations that was the chance for the DA to grab the presidency
Anc has no power to dictate how the country be run
They do actually, they have a lot of power and powerful alies who can jump into coalition with them anytime should the DA continue to act like spoilt brats.
A DA e fokofe.
@@Dude-m4z Yes your right, seems we have another African dictatorship.
So does the the racist DA
Then why the negotiations are not going smooth
I am indeed fascinated by the rand activity, how quickly it goes down as soon as the DA is not happy🤔
And what does that rell you then?
It shows how the rand manipulated by capitalist class
You may not like it but we do need investment in this country.
Ask the 8 million unemployed people in South Africa if they would like job creating investors to come in.
Manipulation at its best.
@@studylive99 Its the world we live in.
Only North Korea doesnt want foreign investment . Even Cuba welcomes it now.
40% 20 ministers 20% 10 ministers.. not sure why the anc what to have more..
The only other component the DA needs to cater for is the IFP, they do not need the rest. If ANC wants them in the GNU then it must sacrifice it's own share of ministries. Without the DA it all falls about and Ramaphosa will be out before long. It's DA or MK.
😂😂😂 Madam Ramaphosa feeling the pressure from Mr Zille
They like a bunch of kids fighting over a sweet....this country is not ready to be a democracy.
It's called negotiations, it's part of democracy 😂
🤣🤣🤣But we are in this position because of Democracy Mos... This is all part of Democracy
The worst democracy in the world..such commitment to keep the poor poorer and rich richer. We are definately not ready for a true democracy
Democracy is overrated.
@@SiyavuyaNgxabazihonestly 😂
ANC had political power for 30 years, unfortunately, they didn't know how to use it and lost that power....
DA wants power and they know very well what to do with it. This is just the beginning. And I like what DA is doing, holding ANC by the balls...
Can partys think about poorest people's.out side there they need servie.not those delay. Process.
Ramaphosa does not have the backing of the ANC.
That's my view aswell. He has to choose a better devil
Wow!
Zaqala zakhala, it will end in tears!!!
Zikhala ngempela!!
Azikhale!!!
Hahahah😂 he he heeeee, Ay!😅
Azikhale
Ramaphosa still thinks the ANC has all the power 😂
With 40%?
Yes they do they are the majority National what do you mean about 20% they are the driver of this train no matter we like it or not it is what it is now
@@SidumoNgetu Correct. They already have the most important position: The presedency. Now they need to give away more of the back seats ... but we all know that it is a big problem because how are they going to feed all their corrupt comrades.
and the DA who only got 20% are behaving as though they won the elections and can demand whatever they want forgetting that there are other parties involved in the GNU as well but we know about selfishness from the colonialists who still think they rule the world
40% majority rule, and yes they still have the power .
Maybe the ANC will put out a tender for the seats😂😂😂
Yes, maybe they want to sell the positions to other parties 😂😂😂😂
Let me just put this out: Bewere ANC and the DA. Let the leaders never forget they are serving!!! a nation. I am almost at the point where I want to say: Grow up!! We need maturity not adolescence please.
ANC must remember they not the power house any longer
We have had 30 years of thieving , incompetence and BS. Enuf is enuf
IFP and UDM and other dummies are just watching ? Where they at ? national party is busy trying to get what it use to have , the others are drunk
Ramaphosa got 40% ajd has no right to be going around deciding which party gets how many and which posts. Period!
He is now president he can now manipulate the joysticks of power. DA was used
he is the president, so he does.
The problem is when they neef the votes they come to us but when they decide on cabinet post they dont need us but we are the ones who bear the consequences of their decisions i also feel that they negotiations should be televised so that we can agree or comment when necessary because clearly they are only thinking about themselves
This guy don't make sense. MK can't even turn up to meetings on time. Always 5 hours late.
ANC is not the governing party
ANC must let the DA go. They should not have coalition with DA in the first place. The DA plan is to rule south Africa again . and then apartheid is back again.
So the babies are crying to the public because they can't just take power. Shame. Can they not grow up? DA and ANC - stop being babies. This is not about you but about the majority who are suffering and cannot continue like this. We need economic growth and relief urgently - not crying babies in government
You have no understanding of what is going on. After agreement, the DA sent a letter to the ANC seeing to violate the agreements made. DA now wants more. The DA's letter was public so the ANC responded with public letter. Who is the crying baby here? You better use that grey matter before it dries up.
Now Godzille will drop a diss track on ANC
😂😂Iike fakh phalaphala fakh mashatile if you down with Gwede fakh yu 2
The most stressed man in the world is Ramaphosa
I doubt he sleeps at night 😢
😅
He failed to do the honourable thing by resigning and going to raise buffalo.
I hear that he makes millions rearing buffalo😂😂😂.
Yup just take Israel to world court and bye bye ANC.
Don't anybody see it?
If the GNU falls apart Ramaphosa will be gone. Next sitting a motion of no confidence in Ramaphosa will tabled. It will succeed because DA+EFF+MKP+and few ANC Is more than 50%
Bas John and tannie really thinks they're in charge😂😂💔
I though Cyril wanted to have face to face negotiations with no leaks to the media...
The other parties in the GNU besides the ANC and DA recieved like 6 percent 😅😅 Their needs must come after the negotiations between the big 2.
encoporating small parties clearly showed where the air is moving. Clever move to bring in shock absorbers.
What did Cyril promised the DA? I feel he has made a deal behind closed doors😏am just saying I feel like they are not telling us the full details of these negotiations.
ANC=Another National Crisis 😂😂😂😂
This is the reason why the White Domkop DA must go back to the Oposition Benches !!!
It's all fake and pretence to calm everyones nerve. Don't be fooled by this.
The DA is twerking a very old song "John Vul'gate" and the ANC is enticed. They (ANC) were not supposed to respond to DA's twerk. They were supposed to announce the cabinet if they're done with the appointments and DA was gonna stop to twerk...that's all. This thing of reminding them the things they know very well is just showing how the poor ANC is hurting in this -1month relationship.😢😢
Please sit down and negotiate and do what is best for the people and South Africa.
The DA did mention it is not about positions.
Make South Africa great again
ANC is just trying to make sure the gravy train is up and running with them as the conductor!
Why is it a sin when DA'S letter gets into public, but Ramaphosa's letter not. Why didn't Ramaphosa not invited DA or Steenhuizen and speak to him privately. This media guys is captured by ANC as you can see in their behavior. They know that the ANC is sly, corrupt, unintelligent, incapable and plainly useless.
ANC think they can still have everything they want 😂
Buying time 😮
The ANC will drive trade and industry into the grave as it has been.. all public sectors have been destroyed by the ANC. The ANC should give these to the DA, they are intelligent and capable. Which province performs better and has more jobs? The Western Cape!!
What about the voter's
What else do they expect from the apartheid party?
Greed, corruption led us here 💔💔😊
Can’t this be reversed for ANC to go with EFF and MK
I knew Helen was going to mess things up. Pls get RID OF HELEN
So true. She always messes things up.
So hard not to think of her as a Karen
@@howdiynot actually you are right.
@@perthkraya3209 I do think though the DA are a bit better at not stealing so much from citizens.
Hellen and steenhuizen were bossing even before conclusion of negotiations 😅
DA can just take it or leave it. Let them taste their own medicine as they said with minimum wage decrease to the people of South Africa. Your principle of take it or leave it, let it start here.
President please stop playing with people's feelings😂🤣
Exactly🤣🤣, Cupcake is wrong for this, the DA is entitled to these demands and rightfully so. 🤣🤣🤣
Who is leaking all these letters
Let's all remember that during the Zuma years, the ANC was also blocking any progressive measures that sought to punish those who were violating the Constitution in Parliament. Fikile Mbalula openly said so in January 2024 too. So it looks like Karma has visited the ANC after all.
BS. Stove to.your agreement. You signed off on it. Get on with it.
Please guys you have to be united for now please black people's organisation's, you can't risk with us we put our trust on you .DA and VF they will take us back to Faro .😮😮
True DA AND VF UIT GAAN TOE
But DA must also remember they also did not win the elections. What are they thinking about the other parties in the GNU
Exactly fully agree with you
Those parties does not have seats to affect anything hence they are just a nuisance to DA,ANC and IFP
There are 30 portfolios. Why does the DA not deserve 8 of these?
@@thomasprogli3372 there are more than just the DA & ANC in the GNU last I saw so are you saying discard them?
@@thomasprogli3372no one deserves anything, they can go if they not happy with what they getting eff and mk are in line waiting
If the DA leaves, then Ramaphosa and his entire tribe in the ANC are gone. DA won't support no confidence motions. He'd be out by the end of the year. They have to comply.
They won't respond to threats.. who does the DA think they are? Blackmail is a child's game
@@riccij7754so what is the ANC doing?
Ramaphosa is still the president even without the DA.
Cyril is the president. The GNU is dependent on a 60% multi-party agreement. That can still happen without the DA
I wonder if the DA understands that if they pull out and eff and mkp come in. Then that means the GNU would have enough votes to make changes to constitution
Mk and eff won't happen because they want Cyril gone...
@@SiphosethuMajijkijela These 3 parties could easily make a deal because they are all corrupt and greedy.
The DTI has been dead for 15 yrs and the ANC are fighting over this
I'm confused bcos DA was against Cadre Deployment done by the ANC but it wanna deploy their members in certain Cabinet positions.. Isn't that Cadre Deployment?
I think the President must appoint the Acting Ministers
Don't be confused... Isn't it obvious that things won't change if all stays the same!? DA need to get their foot in the door to stop the ANC doing what they have done for 30 years, pillage and steal! And worse , where is the shame! Use common sense please? Unless you haven't actually been living in SA and think it's all just a fairytale?
Uzwile umthetho wabekwa yi ANC kodwa iwephulile iANC eKZN its fine then.
If one doesn't know how to deal with their dealings .then the others will take advantage of him/ her.One has to know how to workout with certain people and with whom to join so-called Coalition or so-called GNU or Gunu before he/ she makes such a stress for himself/ herself.Everything looks like fooling one another.The citizens are waiting..Can one tell us how long is this Drama performance going to take .
It will end up into tears😅😅
Babethi benzani beya kubelungu bayabakhombisa now ukuba ibona abaphethe here not anc
Why did they rig the elections 😅karma
But everything was ok for him to be president 😂
Urgent matterb - I’m original ANC believer, open minded,
Mzansi people must now know all the details as was discussed in the initial negotiations where it was agreed Presidency and the chairmanship (Selectee and nominee),
Presidency was handed over to Hon Ramaphosa, same as chairmanship, this was mainly Trio negotiations (IFP, DA and ANC), (other parties and their leaders are followers, and subscribers)
Hon Ramaphosa is playing chameleon, changing colours by the wind.
The power of the statement of intent prevented bloodshed in our country, in many many way,
Spears were sharpened, but the appetite for bloodshed lost momentum because of unite GNU through the Statement of Intent.
So, Hon Ramaphosa, ego aside, respect the efforts that made your presidency and yr life easy, and please don’t be the one changing goal posts.
Ramaphosas recent trail record did not deserve presidency this time round. So truth be told,
But the decision for GNU 🤝
A gamble but this will rewrite history,
You are welcome to disagree 🤸🏾♂️
The Democratic Alliance is unlikely to abandon the Government of National Unity (GNU) because they would face significant losses if they did so. The DA is also concerned that the uMkhonto Wesizwe Party and the Economic Freedom Fighters might join forces to become the official opposition, which would strengthen the voices of the progressive parties Therefore, remaining part of the GNU is strategically important for the DA to maintain their political influence and avoid diminishing their standing.
Checkmate 😂 Pres CRL is a master gamer. Now he can go negotiate with MK and EFF so they don't remove him.
Sober articulation Samkela "ANC Coalition policy Document- biggest party in a municipality or province must form a government" and then what happened to KZN? Cracks are about to happen.
They had to block the MK by any means necessary. That is why KZN moved so quickly.
Thats what u get giving equal rights with settlers on yr land, whilst in Europe is for Europeans n non Europeans must abide by European laws.
The tail doesn't waste time eh. Started wagging the dog right away.
😂😂Think of the next 5 years people open ur eyes this wont work they all greedy from all parties ...eff atm Mk the only way to go people and a bit of action sa😅😅
Marriage for men to men or women to women not last simple 😂
We are fed up with the ANC, period.
Actually, point of correction we are starting to love the ANC again. DA must futseg
We are fed up with the DA ...they want to twerk and twerk ...we want a cabinet announcement they're busy nywenywenywee
Let's re-vote we will make sure ANC wins. This coming from someone who has never voted for the party ever
😂😂😂😂😂
True😂😂😂
DA is a problem very problematic, you can tell John will want to be the president eventually prior to the end of Ramaphosa's tenure.
Wasn't that clear since last year when they started talking about being open with a coalition with the ANC.
It's not problematic it's fact
Both DA and ANC are boasting their brinkmanship skills.