I like the little card for a quick reference. I figured mine up and locked my caliper to where I needed it for my sag but everyone doesn't have a caliper. Also, I really enjoyed your setup method.
After 5134 miles on my 2020 Float X2 it finally gave up the ghost about 3 weeks ago. I have my numbers that I was using, but was thinking this would help more with volume reducers as my DPX2 felt great on my Ripmo and I want my newly returned "2024" Float X2 to ride the same, but have more support for bigger hits (even though I can tell they reused my air can, oh well, the oil side is new. It's always good to do more research even if you've done this for 20+ years. Thanks for posting the video and I hope you get yours back soon.
Well, your right or I am right not sure makes sense to not measure that since it’s non usable. Kinda hilarious Pink bike copied me and made a shock setup video on not to measure that part too. 😆
@@OtterMTBtech Well, I can tell you that when the shock manufacturers say a certain percentage of sag, they mean that percentage of the whole advertised shock stroke. If you were to let all the air out and hammer on the shock, you’d get the full 60mm of stroke.
@@notsoenduro No, sag is always set using shock shaft stroke length, not rear wheel travel. 30% of 60mm = 18mm of shock shaft length. That’s what you should set sag at. That’s with all settings in the open position. Then you adjust those settings based on the PSI needed to get 30% sag. Those Fox recommended settings are a very good starting point. But, I may be understanding you wrong. Anyway it should be based on the 60mm figure.
@@Shawn-in-da-Canyon no you’re spot on. My confusion is on the terminology. My bike (Spec Enduro) is 170mm f & r travel. The shock is 205x60mm. So 18mm sag is correct. Fox Manual doesn’t have 205x60mm. It lists 55,65,70mm… it also says set sag based on “full shock travel” not stroke length.
That missing 4mm of stroke is from the bottom out bumper. You can deflate the shock and emulate a hard bottom out. Not that the 4mm matters. Sag is just a guide anyway.
I've got haibike enduro 7. I've not touch any of the settings. I had the bike for about 8 months. I'm 11 stone. I'm going to set the bike up to the same settings that you had. It's got to be better. Thanks for a imformitive video. Awesome.
@@OtterMTBtech there is definitely some difference. I had to put 20 extra psi in my 2024 vs the 2021. I've been messing with mine for a few months and I'm still not as satisfied with the feel of the 2024 vs the 2021.
Thank you for this great video. I recently bought a Cube one55 SLX with a 2023 Series FLOAT X2 2pos-Adj. I think it is an OEM version. The bike itself is relatively light 14.7 kgs. I'm with biking gear 78 kgs. Mostly I ride mellow trails in the local forests, but yearly few times I visit some bike parks here in EU: Austria, Slovakia and Czech Republic. In these parks I prefer blue and red lines. Do you think your guide is applicable for this version as well? What are Your recommendations? Thank you for your feedback in advance.
Same principles one adjustment at a time. If I’m going to a bike park, just crank the high-speed compression. A few clicks extra maybe a a slower rebound . For your shock just add some blue knob minus some red knob for the bike park.
Dude can't believe your dissing GG. Great stuff. I am a pretty big rider and my older X2 has started doing the air oil mix. Think the Vivid is an option or just keep sending it to Fox?
The issue that I have with my Factory Float X2 2022 series is that I need to close fully the LSC to be able to climb without swinging on the bike. I ride Ibis Ripmo, so the DW link is not swinging-like platform. Is it a problem with the shock or I need to work on the adjustment? (SAG is set correctly)
@@seatpostman Friendly Ripmo owner here. You probably know this but the Fox Factory Float X2 packaged with Ripmo V2 has a different tune than off-the-shelf X2. The shock has Ibis’ Traction Tune, with lighter compression and rebound damping to suit the kinematics of DW-link. (Yes, I plagiarized that last sentence from a review. YT won’t let me cite the article.) My simple understanding is Ripmo owners need to turn up our compression and rebound damping more than other Float X2 owners to achieve similar performance. Hope that helps, and that you already got this solved.
There is no 4 digit code on my Fox Factory Float X2 (2021 model) that came on my Ripmo V2 in February. Ibis distributes specially tuned X2 shocks with reduced compression and rebound damping for DW-link’s unusual kinesmatics. There is only a QR code box at the base of the shock near the linkage eyelet. It is not easy to photograph. Good luck to Ripmo owners with finding identical shock replacements!
Insanely good video. My confusion lies with when you had LS and HS compression open and found the sweet spot in your rebound, what are you feeling? Also, when it comes to dialing in HS and LS comp what are you feeling in the bike? I have basically set all my settings to the Fox recommendations (give or take). I ride a variety of different terrains and I'm not sure if my suspension is dialed or if I have just worked out how to use the bike with those settings. I want plush but planted. I want grip around berms but want it to dance over rocky tech. I guess there is no specific setting for ALL terrain
The Fox settings are usually close. I was trying to show people how to fish not fish not give them fish. If you want the golden feeling it’s a mid stroke hang out. Try this go full fast rebound both and middle compression
What do you mean the older one had more adjustment? that just doesn't make sense. you would think that a newer shock would have at least the same amount of adjustment or more
@@OtterMTBtech so you mean instead of having 20 clicks there is only 10 clicks and they feel like they have more of an effect on the suspension with each click?
I can’t remember exactly the clicks on the older one, but the range was allot bigger. I suspect they narrowed the range since it was allot easier to make the wrong adjustments. New or old version they work amazing when setup right
Far out … first time I’ve seen it explained well. So sag is set off stroke length and not shock travel (as explained by every other video) ? @ottermtbtech I have the float X2 on the enduro and was setting the 30% measurement off 170mm of rear travel… nothing to do with stroke length.
It’s debatable on which one to use. My theory is to use the effective stroke. The x2 has massive bottom out bumper so it only has 55 stroke on Enduro. I’m not Fox engineer I may be wrong. Shocks not overly sensitive to air pressure. The compression takes over
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Hands down, best fox setup tutorials on the tube and trust me, I’ve experimented with all of them. Bravo sir and thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks dog. I spent allot of hours in that one.
Thanks man. Best X2 setup explainer vid I’ve seen. Not to complicated not to simple.
I appreciate that!
I like the little card for a quick reference. I figured mine up and locked my caliper to where I needed it for my sag but everyone doesn't have a caliper. Also, I really enjoyed your setup method.
After 5134 miles on my 2020 Float X2 it finally gave up the ghost about 3 weeks ago. I have my numbers that I was using, but was thinking this would help more with volume reducers as my DPX2 felt great on my Ripmo and I want my newly returned "2024" Float X2 to ride the same, but have more support for bigger hits (even though I can tell they reused my air can, oh well, the oil side is new. It's always good to do more research even if you've done this for 20+ years. Thanks for posting the video and I hope you get yours back soon.
That’s a shit load of miles. That pre 2021 x2 was better, but harder to setup
Awesome job dude especially the part about actual stroke length
It’s about being consistent not really the stroke length
Great job, thank you
Thanks for watching!
Awesome! Totally gonna use this to set mine up. Thanks man!
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You need to set the sag using the 60mm stroke figure. That last few mm of stroke is the bottom out bumper.
Well, your right or I am right not sure makes sense to not measure that since it’s non usable. Kinda hilarious Pink bike copied me and made a shock setup video on not to measure that part too. 😆
@@OtterMTBtech Well, I can tell you that when the shock manufacturers say a certain percentage of sag, they mean that percentage of the whole advertised shock stroke. If you were to let all the air out and hammer on the shock, you’d get the full 60mm of stroke.
Actually they say of full travel … nothing to do with stroke length
@@notsoenduro No, sag is always set using shock shaft stroke length, not rear wheel travel. 30% of 60mm = 18mm of shock shaft length. That’s what you should set sag at. That’s with all settings in the open position. Then you adjust those settings based on the PSI needed to get 30% sag. Those Fox recommended settings are a very good starting point. But, I may be understanding you wrong. Anyway it should be based on the 60mm figure.
@@Shawn-in-da-Canyon no you’re spot on. My confusion is on the terminology. My bike (Spec Enduro) is 170mm f & r travel. The shock is 205x60mm. So 18mm sag is correct. Fox Manual doesn’t have 205x60mm. It lists 55,65,70mm… it also says set sag based on “full shock travel” not stroke length.
Thanks for all the detailed info!!
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That missing 4mm of stroke is from the bottom out bumper. You can deflate the shock and emulate a hard bottom out. Not that the 4mm matters. Sag is just a guide anyway.
Roger, 5psi can make or break suspension
I've got haibike enduro 7. I've not touch any of the settings. I had the bike for about 8 months.
I'm 11 stone. I'm going to set the bike up to the same settings that you had. It's got to be better. Thanks for a imformitive video. Awesome.
Sent out a 2021 x2 got back the 2024 x2 I haven’t ridden yet I hope it goes well this season
I have a video coming about it. It feels worse more harsh
@@OtterMTBtech ah! But hopefully it won’t break lol I rather have the reliability I thought about getting a cane creek for my banshee titan
@@OtterMTBtech there is definitely some difference. I had to put 20 extra psi in my 2024 vs the 2021. I've been messing with mine for a few months and I'm still not as satisfied with the feel of the 2024 vs the 2021.
👍🏻 nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
a video on why i don't ride fox anymore.
😭 what’s your setup?
@@OtterMTBtech 2022 Kenevo, Zeb ultimate, and a super deluxe....27.5 plus rims and tires
What’s your body weight? I am making 2023 super deluxe video and it’s terrible on the Kenevo
I still like Fox products but man there customer service has been lacking lately.
You da man!!🙌
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Fox said they have fixed the aeration no mine will have to serviced again. Third time this year.
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Just tried it today all good again eventhough forest very wet.@@OtterMTBtech
Thank you for this great video. I recently bought a Cube one55 SLX with a 2023 Series FLOAT X2 2pos-Adj. I think it is an OEM version. The bike itself is relatively light 14.7 kgs. I'm with biking gear 78 kgs. Mostly I ride mellow trails in the local forests, but yearly few times I visit some bike parks here in EU: Austria, Slovakia and Czech Republic. In these parks I prefer blue and red lines. Do you think your guide is applicable for this version as well? What are Your recommendations? Thank you for your feedback in advance.
Same principles one adjustment at a time. If I’m going to a bike park, just crank the high-speed compression. A few clicks extra maybe a a slower rebound
. For your shock just add some blue knob minus some red knob for the bike park.
You should have opened up the adjusters before setting the sag. Then set your adjusters.
I edited it backwards, your right
Dude can't believe your dissing GG. Great stuff. I am a pretty big rider and my older X2 has started doing the air oil mix. Think the Vivid is an option or just keep sending it to Fox?
Your right I should be grateful for the GG. Send it to Fox for repair. The old shock was awesome had more range of adjustments.
The issue that I have with my Factory Float X2 2022 series is that I need to close fully the LSC to be able to climb without swinging on the bike. I ride Ibis Ripmo, so the DW link is not swinging-like platform. Is it a problem with the shock or I need to work on the adjustment? (SAG is set correctly)
Sounds like new bike time
@@OtterMTBtech unfortunately this happens in a NEW bike 😁
@@seatpostman Friendly Ripmo owner here. You probably know this but the Fox Factory Float X2 packaged with Ripmo V2 has a different tune than off-the-shelf X2. The shock has Ibis’ Traction Tune, with lighter compression and rebound damping to suit the kinematics of DW-link. (Yes, I plagiarized that last sentence from a review. YT won’t let me cite the article.)
My simple understanding is Ripmo owners need to turn up our compression and rebound damping more than other Float X2 owners to achieve similar performance.
Hope that helps, and that you already got this solved.
Where do you find the 4 digit code
It’s on bottom
There is no 4 digit code on my Fox Factory Float X2 (2021 model) that came on my Ripmo V2 in February. Ibis distributes specially tuned X2 shocks with reduced compression and rebound damping for DW-link’s unusual kinesmatics. There is only a QR code box at the base of the shock near the linkage eyelet. It is not easy to photograph.
Good luck to Ripmo owners with finding identical shock replacements!
X2 shock sucks too much cavitation issues. Fox don t want to recognize it. But you can still pay a lot for it if you want... Ext is the new brand
Nien
I was sold on the X2 till the end. Too bad. I’ll prob go Float X. Almost as good without all the hassle
Read the last sentence of the video. 😎. Problems are ironed out
Insanely good video. My confusion lies with when you had LS and HS compression open and found the sweet spot in your rebound, what are you feeling? Also, when it comes to dialing in HS and LS comp what are you feeling in the bike?
I have basically set all my settings to the Fox recommendations (give or take). I ride a variety of different terrains and I'm not sure if my suspension is dialed or if I have just worked out how to use the bike with those settings.
I want plush but planted. I want grip around berms but want it to dance over rocky tech. I guess there is no specific setting for ALL terrain
The Fox settings are usually close. I was trying to show people how to fish not fish not give them fish. If you want the golden feeling it’s a mid stroke hang out. Try this go full fast rebound both and middle compression
Hey man, many genuine Thank You's. Clear and simple enough for even a fossilised muggle like me understand.
Glad to help
What do you mean the older one had more adjustment? that just doesn't make sense. you would think that a newer shock would have at least the same amount of adjustment or more
Yes, it does have less adjustment, they made it simpler more “usable range” they call it. Older model would adjust allot more on high speed clickers.
@@OtterMTBtech so you mean instead of having 20 clicks there is only 10 clicks and they feel like they have more of an effect on the suspension with each click?
I can’t remember exactly the clicks on the older one, but the range was allot bigger. I suspect they narrowed the range since it was allot easier to make the wrong adjustments. New or old version they work amazing when setup right
Far out … first time I’ve seen it explained well. So sag is set off stroke length and not shock travel (as explained by every other video) ?
@ottermtbtech
I have the float X2 on the enduro and was setting the 30% measurement off 170mm of rear travel… nothing to do with stroke length.
It’s debatable on which one to use. My theory is to use the effective stroke.
The x2 has massive bottom out bumper so it only has 55 stroke on Enduro.
I’m not Fox engineer I may be wrong.
Shocks not overly sensitive to air pressure. The compression takes over
i only ride rough, rocky and rooty trails. does that tutorial work for that too?
Yes !!!
Thank you for talking slowly
Your welcome. Purposely made it slow. Can’t be hard to understand retain info.
@@OtterMTBtechYes, you were exceptionally clear. Well done!
Excellent tutorial 👍
Appreciate it, massive effort. Still few typos in it
I love that you casually call non e-bikes amish bikes 😂 Took me a bit to understand what you meant by that.
Friend called me out for that too. 😆.